Amazon's New Ridiculous Deal

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So I gave a Samsung tv to my friend and she wanted to login to her Prime account to watch movies/shows etc. She already watches them on other devices like her computer etc.

It asks her to put an autogenerated code on the tv into an amazon page on her computer. It then asks her to call a number for Amazon instead of progressing to the login.

To cut a long story short. They said that because she pays monthly for her Amazon Prime account, rather than pay a year upfront (like I do) they only allow her to watch Prime shows on other devices but not any TV??? They offered her the option to pay a year up front for an extra 51 bucks ($199.00) and she will get a year free and be able to use it on her smart tv.

The yearly rate for a subscription to Prime is normally $148.00. She pays $17.00 per month which ends up being $204.00 yearly. So Amazon dangled a carrot (a free year) to make her move to a yearly subscription when she already pays 56 bucks over the odds by paying it monthly!!!

What a crazy, ridiculous scenario Amazon is now is imposing on its usage and pricing.

She principally pays Amazon this money for it's good deal on it's delivery costs and orders a lot of stuff. Using Prime for it's entertainment was only a secondary consideration as she prefers Hulu.

But I mean...Really??
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Something doesn't sound right - but like you I've always paid for Prime by the year to get the best price. I last paid in May and it was $139+tax...which is $40 cheaper per year than monthly. We buy almost weekly from Amazon and more than make up the cost of Prime in shipping $$$ saved.

    When I bought my 70" TV, I bought the previous year's model (to get a good deal, of course) and it doesn't have the streaming options that are common now. I solved that by getting a Roku - and i can stream everything using that. Wonder if that would work for her. In fact, I think you suggested the Roku to me - someone here on the forum did. Works like a charm.

    Amazon was NO help in streaming to my not-smart-enough TV - but not surprising as they provide a service, not tech help. The 'not on monthly' doesn't make sense at all to me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Monetize
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      Something doesn't sound right - but like you I've always paid for Prime by the year to get the best price. I last paid in May and it was $139+tax...which is $40 cheaper per year than monthly. We buy almost weekly from Amazon and more than make up the cost of Prime in shipping $$$ saved.

      I had Prime ever since I can remember, but a couple of years
      ago I noticed I wasn't getting 2-3 day shipping, all my orders
      were taking around 10 days, so where was the benefit.

      I didn't mind delays during lockdowns, but Amazon cancelled
      their FedEx partnership and everything was taking longer.

      I have other memberships too like Costco, Sam's, Walmart+
      so I pay a lot of annual fees and I don't have a problem with
      paying but I want a benefit.

      So I stopped paying for annual Prime, and now I just get it
      for a month at Christmas and Valentine's when I send gifts.

      Amazon offers free shipping with $35 orders and it doesn't
      take much to make that minimum, it also keeps me from
      ordering random items every day.

      BTW, in case I never mentioned this, I am in a five bedroom
      house and just about everything in here, including furniture,
      came from Amazon.
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

    So I gave a Samsung tv to my friend and she wanted to login to her Prime account to watch movies/shows etc. She already watches them on other devices like her computer etc.

    What a crazy, ridiculous scenario Amazon is now is imposing on its usage and pricing.

    She principally pays Amazon this money for it's good deal on it's delivery costs and orders a lot of stuff. Using Prime for it's entertainment was only a secondary consideration as she prefers Hulu.

    But I mean...Really??
    Amazon was NO help in streaming to my not-smart-enough TV - but not surprising as they provide a service, not tech help. The 'not on monthly' doesn't make sense at all to me.
    The obvious answer is "why" l mean sure you can watch old movies on there, but all recent movies have this stupid pay to stream, (try pausing that and see the nightmare unfold) or buy it same dog different fleas, where by you are paying the subscription you should get latest release movies without the extra cost.

    Most movies on there are free to air tv levels anyway, (weak story cliched to hell B grade actors dull premise and it is only the swearing and weird Mothers with their mouths in the gutter that limp it to the end credits).

    I mean l did have access to the Disney channel but l have seen the making of Star Wars and how George Lucas went through hell and came out the other side with Industrial Light and Magic out in the wilderness and Pixer warming up its mouse.

    But l am getting a bit sick of it but still think that the X wing models are cool.

    Watched pretty much every decent cartoon on there also, and PIXAR phew apart from there recent fluke l may trade that as a short since the weirdo herum doesn't cut it anymore.

    But anyway if l had to ring one to subscribe l wouldn't, sounds like your friend has the right idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I've used Disney+ 2-3 months at a time - they have National Geographic shows and they are excellent. I alternate Disney with Paramount+ - wondering how long before streaming services have mandatory length of membership.


    I do have an extra Amazon Prime fee - when Azn went to 'ad' I went 'no ads' - for additional $3/month.


    Because Azn is making movies available that are not free I've found some old faves such as Arthur and Cirque de Soleil performances. There are plenty of free shows and movies and it seems adding the paid options greatly expanded the shows available on Prime.



    Meanwhile - RedBox went out of business???
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      I've used Disney+ 2-3 months at a time - they have National Geographic shows and they are excellent. I alternate Disney with Paramount+ - wondering how long before streaming services have mandatory length of membership.

      I do have an extra Amazon Prime fee - when Azn went to 'ad' I went 'no ads' - for additional $3/month.

      Because Azn is making movies available that are not free I've found some old faves such as Arthur and Cirque de Soleil performances. There are plenty of free shows and movies and it seems adding the paid options greatly expanded the shows available on Prime.

      Meanwhile - RedBox went out of business???
      I have to admit l haven't clicked on National Geog, (probably because l grew up with the nature specials and the more recent ones are pushing agendas than providing decent content).

      I have Paramount but only for Survivor, up to the last one now sniff, or watched season 1 up to 45, or 46? throughout the entire pandemic.

      I know they have great old movies, (watched Beverly Hills Cop a few hours ago again myself) and l believe that they used to offer latest release but have become more stingy.
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      • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        I have to admit l haven't clicked on National Geog, (probably because l grew up with the nature specials and the more recent ones are pushing agendas than providing decent content).
        Shows like, To Catch a Smuggler, Trafficked, Wicked Tuna (Not renewed for another Season), Better Human Better Dog by Cesar Millian, or Gordon Ramasy. You can watch without seeing any agendas.
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
    Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

    What a crazy, ridiculous scenario Amazon is now is imposing on its usage and pricing.
    It doesn't sound particularly outrageous, but if that's the case, I don't know why Amazon wouldn't promote this as an extra benefit for yearly members. Instead, I can see nothing on the site that mentions any difference in accessing services between monthly and yearly payers.

    Certainly in the UK, monthly members can access Prime on Smart TVs.

    Maybe we're not getting the whole story here, riveting as it is.
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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

      It doesn't sound particularly outrageous, but if that's the case, I don't know why Amazon wouldn't promote this as an extra benefit for yearly members. Instead, I can see nothing on the site that mentions any difference in accessing services between monthly and yearly payers.

      Certainly in the UK, monthly members can access Prime on Smart TVs.

      Maybe we're not getting the whole story here, riveting as it is.
      Well. This was by going into the official Prime app on the tv and getting prompted to call to be told this. Must be recent? Interestingly enough, she had been able to watch Prime on her previous Insignia Fire TV with the monthly payment method for several years. I think that perhaps Amazon were unable to make the changes on it to lock her out having changed the policy.

      But your right, I cannot find anything online about it either?
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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

    So I gave a Samsung tv to my friend and she wanted to login to her Prime account to watch movies/shows etc. She already watches them on other devices like her computer etc.

    It asks her to put an autogenerated code on the tv into an amazon page on her computer. It then asks her to call a number for Amazon instead of progressing to the login.

    To cut a long story short. They said that because she pays monthly for her Amazon Prime account, rather than pay a year upfront (like I do) they only allow her to watch Prime shows on other devices but not any TV??? They offered her the option to pay a year up front for an extra 51 bucks ($199.00) and she will get a year free and be able to use it on her smart tv.

    The yearly rate for a subscription to Prime is normally $148.00. She pays $17.00 per month which ends up being $204.00 yearly. So Amazon dangled a carrot (a free year) to make her move to a yearly subscription when she already pays 56 bucks over the odds by paying it monthly!!!

    What a crazy, ridiculous scenario Amazon is now is imposing on its usage and pricing.

    She principally pays Amazon this money for it's good deal on it's delivery costs and orders a lot of stuff. Using Prime for it's entertainment was only a secondary consideration as she prefers Hulu.

    But I mean...Really??
    Something isn't right, I agree.

    With Prime, everyone can watch it on all their TVs and devices. Everyone pays monthly.

    When we signed up online, we then just went on our TV and signed in our username and password.

    No idea what happened in your story.

    Assuming the story she told you is true, I'd advise her to cancel her Prime account and just sign up again.
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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      Something isn't right, I agree.

      With Prime, everyone can watch it on all their TVs and devices. Everyone pays monthly.

      When we signed up online, we then just went on our TV and signed in our username and password.

      No idea what happened in your story.

      Assuming the story she told you is true, I'd advise her to cancel her Prime account and just sign up again.
      It's not the case that "everyone" pays monthly for Prime. Many pay yearly. Monthly is $16.99 which adds up to $204.00 appx, per year. Paying yearly is $148.00. Her daughter signed her up a few years back and set it to monthly. She's not good at keeping up with these things.

      So several years back, just logging into Prime on your tv, whether you paid monthly or yearly, you would be successful. But if you got a new tv and tried to do it now, or completely reset the one you have to factory defaults to login afresh, you would no longer be successful if you pay monthly.

      I would not try this by the way. Just to see, lol.

      I was sitting next to her when she was on the phone with the Amazon person.

      Like I said before though, when you login to a service on a tv, a few years back and are still paying, they either cant log you out via the net on your tv perhaps. they only bother when you start afresh when you reset or get a new tv. Re-logging in refreshes your credentials and flags them.

      Why they seem to have an aversion to monthly payments when they get an extra 50 per year out of it escapes me. Perhaps they just like cash up front? So charging you extra for monthly is a way to discourage you from doing it so you will switch to yearly. But now they have added this extra condition of not letting you watch it on a tv if you pay monthly? That's just crazy, but apparently true.

      Getting the TV from me meant she had to sign into Hulu afresh. She was using her daughters account, fine on her previous tv. But when she came to sign into it, blocked, she had to start her own new account. Netflix managed to block her account on her previous tv because she was using her daughters account. These companies are really cracking down on shared logins.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    One reason we've kept Amazon Prime is the streaming service - but the current move to charging 'rentals' for movies may change that. We have very fast Azon shipping here - seldom longer than two days and often one day.



    I had forgotten the $35 free shipping limit - hitting that amt was never a problem.
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    I have a T.V. in my office that actually uses a firestick. And, as tech-savvy as I thought I was...it took me about 3 days to get it to work.

    I would do away with cable completely but Ashley likes to watch her evening game shows.

    Times when I should be working on important things like solving the world peace issue...

    I'm browsing through the channels in my office...or posting some rambling thing on the Warrior Forum

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    We don't have one here where I live, but there's one about 30 miles away.
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      Originally Posted by Princess Balestra View Post

      Thing 'bout men: you bitch like frickin' sissies sumtimes.

      Scratchin' out eyeballs demands neithah blades nor guns nor outside.

      It is instantaneous.

      WHAT 'BOUT PUNCHIN' PEOPLE IN THE CHOPS, O PRINCESS?

      For sure, it is an unnecessary evil, but whenya jus' had yr nails done, sumtimes you gotta pertickt 'em on out ...
      I was thinking more alone the lines of throwing a lot of punches but not actually hitting anyone, (we learnt that from the English) and the first person who doesn't fall over wins.

      The only trouble with sharp nails is self impaling.

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    I agree, there is a problem. With Prime, everyone can watch on all their TVs and devices, and everyone pays a monthly subscription.

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