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Zeitgeist - The Movie

by Jared Alberghini
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I would love to hear your opinions on this film.

If you haven't seen this already, YOU MUST WATCH THE ZEITGEISTMOVIE



"Zeitgeist - The Movie" is a three part film. Part one (Religion) Part two (World Trade Center) Part Three (The Federal Reserve).


The videos below are part three of three of the film; "The Federal Reserve".

Let's hear your thoughts...

Jared
#federal reserve #zeitgeist movie
  • Profile picture of the author tommyp
    All in one part on Google Video:



    And also...



    What I think: I don't agree with some things in the Zeitgeist Refuted video but I believe that overall it crushes part 1 of Zeitgeist. I had been contemplating refuting it myself but he beat me to it. As far as the other two parts, I've been following this stuff for two years and when it really comes down to it, most people will make statements when in fact they really do not know. I believe they want to come across as experts and so you get every Sally, Sue and Sandra making claims when they are really just parroting words of others and are nobodies who want to be perceived as gloriously informed, astute and part of the whole truth-seeker scene but are just bandwagon jumpers - they get caught up in the hype, have knee jerk reactions and really don't know shit. Many, if not most, of the people in the so-called truth movement are idiots. If more people were honest they would say something that sounds more like, "Well, it seems to me that *this* is likely and I will go with it, but in point of fact the truth is that I really don't actually KNOW"

    I think there is something to all this conspiracy. How much of it and what is true I don't know, but there is supporting evidence for much of it and while some people who actually do the research, critically and intelligently, may get some facts wrong, I can't fault them for that because they are trying to put stuff together that is occult and doing their best to make sense of the evidence and it is hard work - especially separating misinformation from more credible information. One can't really know for sure what to believe and there is an amount of faith and trust one must put in the sources of information.

    When it comes down to it, much of it seems very likely and much of it comes down to the individual and what they want to believe. That's all I care to say.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tiger
      Things like that can be compared to the Y2K debacle we
      had eight years back.

      Some made a killing, because they said the computer programmers
      were the ones who failed to allow for date codes past 2000. They
      said we should stock up on food, etc, etc,. Some
      said this some said that.


      In 1999. when I heard that the electrical power plants could be shut down
      because of the Y2K failure of computers, all I had to do was go to my
      local power plant's website.


      Guess what ? They had it covered. They had been working on it
      for about six months prior and there would be no problem once the
      2000 mark was passed.


      Moral of this story:


      Do some objective research and it will alleviate many of the "sky is
      falling" and "conspiracy" problems/stories. Do it soon, while you are still
      allowed to. ( Had to put that in there. )

      /Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author imb
    I saw this film a year ago. I don't exactly believe in its details but I believe in its common message that we are manipulated by the government/church. That they don't tell everything. It's both good and bad for me. Bad because they control and profit from us. Good because the masses are controlled hence avoiding chaos. At any rate it's still an eye opening film.
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    • Profile picture of the author Don Hill
      Is there really no law that says I have to pay Income Tax???

      Wow if the word gets out about that...
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Just Imagine No Heaven and No Government

        It's easy if you try
        No hell below us
        Above us only sky
        Imagine all the people
        Living for today...

        Imagine there's no countries
        It isn't hard to do
        Nothing to kill or die for
        And no religion too
        Imagine all the people
        Living life in peace...

        You may say I'm a dreamer
        But I'm not the only one
        I hope someday you'll join us
        And the world will be as one
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        • Profile picture of the author tommyp
          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          Just Imagine No Heaven and No Government

          It's easy if you try
          No hell below us
          Above us only sky
          Imagine all the people
          Living for today...

          Imagine there's no countries
          It isn't hard to do
          Nothing to kill or die for
          And no religion too
          Imagine all the people
          Living life in peace...

          You may say I'm a dreamer
          But I'm not the only one
          I hope someday you'll join us
          And the world will be as one
          Yea, that's their whole idea. Tolerance, ecumenism, "one world" etc., except that song puts a spin on it that makes it sound positive to most people. To me it's deceiving and I'm not interested in living with people I don't like, compromising my principles, "peace" and "love" as defined by popular culture or in one world where everyone is one. I sure as heck don't want to be one with most things.

          People are individuals and there can't be any compromise. That's why there are nations and states. If you don't like one you go to another that suits you better, but then again, that may be just an illusion of choice just like they say voting for president is.
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      • Profile picture of the author Barry Walls
        Originally Posted by Don Hill View Post

        Is there really no law that says I have to pay Income Tax???

        Wow if the word gets out about that...
        It has...see Wesley Snipes case.

        There is no law, yet the courts still enforce the IRS code. So even though you legally don't have to pay, you will end up in jail/bankrupt if you don't pay.

        Or so I believe.
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        • Profile picture of the author HeySal
          Originally Posted by bigjock View Post

          It has...see Wesley Snipes case.

          There is no law, yet the courts still enforce the IRS code. So even though you legally don't have to pay, you will end up in jail/bankrupt if you don't pay.

          Or so I believe.
          There are a few here and there that win these cases. One in mind was a ex-IRS agent - and another a lawyer. Not surprising that the info is hard to find quickly about these cases - I found only one reference to either case and that was the lawyers - not sure how credible the link is but don't have time to do any more search.
          Lawyer who beat IRS sues agents

          If you watch the campaigns you will find that most of our reps haven't paid taxes for years either - they are not exempt, they just know the correct way to beat the system that the rest of us are locked into - and that takes starting out with claiming your strawman and with how you sign that damned W2 that is forced on you when you start work. That is an AGREEMENT to pay. People can buck the system easily - but the information on how to do it legally is quite sinuous and very well covered. You need an extreme expert to do what the super rich and gov insiders do all the time with no negative repercussions. Wesley Snipes either didn't follow the correct procedure from the get or is has just been scapegoated because so many were watching the case.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tiger
      Originally Posted by imb View Post

      I saw this film a year ago. I don't exactly believe in its details but I believe in its common message that we are manipulated by the government/church. That they don't tell everything. It's both good and bad for me. Bad because they control and profit from us. Good because the masses are controlled hence avoiding chaos. At any rate it's still an eye opening film.


      Ah yes, someone calling it "good" that the masses are controlled.
      That word "good" is a stretch, but nevertheless, yes there certainly
      would be chaos if there were no externally enforced rules on "the masses" of humanity.


      Why is that ?


      Why can not man seem to be able to successfully give himself liberty ?
      Why does man look constantly for an outside force to control him
      instead of just doing it himself ? ( Controlling himself. )


      Valid questions, eh ?


      Look at this : LINK

      The Brits have settled on being "superimposed" ( pun intended )
      about 3000 times a day. Make sure you folks always have a smile

      They gave up their guns to achieve this. That was a drastic
      move, but nevertheless they did it. Do the Brits feel safer now ? The
      "masses" of the United Kingdom are "under control" now. I would venture
      to guess that if you asked the average Brit if they like their 3000 photo
      ops per day, they would give a resounding " No ! ".


      The United States was a test to see if man could rule himself. Thanks
      to some visionaries that designed a government with checks and balances,
      and this being run by the citizens - all should have turned out just dandy.


      Oooops. :confused:


      Man does not seem to have the capacity to give himself liberty/rule himself.




      Originally Posted by imb View Post

      Bad because they control and profit from us.

      If you openly allow someone to control and profit from you with your express permission why would you call that "bad "? You would be a part of the problem, instead of the solution of "bad ol' govs and churches".


      What is the continuous failing of man that he must repeat the wars and the endless cycles of negative, destructive control of one culture over another ?

      What is this terminal cancer in the character of man that forces him
      to repeat even the darkest moments of his history ?

      It is this : selfishness.


      I dont want to end this post on a negative note: The good news is
      that the truth can make you free, and personally rid you of the terminal
      cancer in your character, your soul. Its out there if you are
      truly willing to pay for it.



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      • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
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      • Profile picture of the author imb
        @Tiger - I agree with what you say. Selfishness is whether we like or not, I think is an inborn natural survival "feature" on every living animal which includes humans. It's basic that we will save ourselves first before others. It's kinda like how can you love others if you cannot love yourself, or the basic air crash instruction: put the oxygen mask on yourself first then to your child. All that matters now is how far we deal with this default selfishness we have.

        Here is a quote from someone I don't know, what he said pretty much makes all these life complications just a pile of crap and we should not really take too seriously:

        "There is no meaning of life; no cause or purpose to the universe. Faith and spirituality are the ego interpreting reality. There’s no reason for our existence, it’s all just a bunch of stuff that happened. But that’s not a bad thing...

        Screw the endless arguments. I’m just going to quietly get on with doing what I think is the right thing to do, in the way I think it should be done. And in the meantime, what keeps me going (and what really cheered me up today) is communicating with people — talking, sharing time and energy, flirting ;-) and having a laugh. What else can we do — each other is all we have."
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        • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
          I think "loose change" was a much better movie. I guess I just didn't care for the whole 1st half of zeitgeist. As for the claims raised in the conspiracy type movies, I don't know what to think. Nobody really wants to believe a conspiracy. Actually some really good points are raised that there are no innocent answers to. If this was a conspiracy then they made some major flaws. But I guess we'll never know cause the only ppl who can answer those questions aren't talking.
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  • Profile picture of the author acreativetouch
    My son just watched the Zeitgeist Addendum. He liked it, but I questions the Venus Project. Will a technocracy be a better choice than what we have now? I don't think so. The idea of doing away with religion, government, etc isn't the answer. But the corporacracy has murdered millions, and planned to murder billions while they rake in the profits on the suffering they create for us. I, personally don't think their proposal is realistic, and a technocracy isn't any better of an option.

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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy123
      Why do you think the Venus Project is a bad idea, you did not offer any
      supporting argument only an opinion.

      Most humans are slaves on earth in one form or another, there is more than
      enough abundance on earth for everyone to have at least a home, clothes,
      transportation, food, and entertainment.

      But how much is that going to cost, everyone says.
      It doesn't have to cost anything.

      Human can just decide to set-up the world so everyone has
      the basics. Just build enough homes for everyone with no mortgage
      and be done with it, then create enough clothes, etc so everyone has the basics.
      Machines can do most of the work.

      The few things that must be done by humans, people could rotate and work
      one month a year.

      I think during this transition people will be very lazy because they are
      used to doing things out of survival not because they love to do it.
      But eventually people will begin to create things and discover what they are
      naturally good at and create value by themselves.

      I can't keep writing I have not worked out the details and that is not my goal,
      but I can see the big picture for this.

      Humans must evolve beyond ego, greed, insecurity, scarcity, etc. we have all been brainwashed.
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    • Profile picture of the author MaskedMarketer
      Originally Posted by acreativetouch View Post

      The idea of doing away with religion, government, etc isn't the answer.
      Yeah this movie seems to be trying to create a "perfect world". Most of our wars are created because of some type of "religous" faith or some government. So I could see how we might be better off with out it..
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  • Profile picture of the author awnings
    I have not watched this film in its entirety yet, but I have heard a lot of the buzz around it. It's remarkable that because of things like YouTube, this film is getting around really fast.

    For instance, I think that in general many US citizens have different opinions about the war than they did when re-electing Bush. Anyway, when I see the movie I'll post my comments here.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Originally Posted by awnings View Post

      I have not watched this film in its entirety yet, but I have heard a lot of the buzz around it. It's remarkable that because of things like YouTube, this film is getting around really fast.
      Yeh, that's a good thing and a bad thing. It's good when the information is accurate, but when it's not as in the case of movies like Zeitgeist, Loose Change and 911 Mysteries it's a bad thing.
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      • Profile picture of the author awnings
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Yeh, that's a good thing and a bad thing. It's good when the information is accurate, but when it's not as in the case of movies like Zeitgeist, Loose Change and 911 Mysteries it's a bad thing.
        I've still not seen the full movie yet, but I seem to remember that the filmakers clump different organization and rich families all into one category of the Global Elite.

        While I do think there is an elite behind most of our socio-economic infrastructure, I don't think it's as simple as bad guys and good guys. It can't be, because there are way too many individual opinions in any organization, that for something so global, there would have to be in-fighting and disagreements.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Tim, you will never convince a conspiracy theorist by using facts. Because to them it only proves you are deluded by some cover up - it's part of their modus operandi.

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      denial is an epidemic in America
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