Any Fitness Gurus In The House?

by SuiteJ
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I'm officially back at the gym, but I have a goal I'm trying to reach without actual knowledge of the "best" way to get there.

I used to be in pretty good shape and weighed about 185-190lbs. The past 3 years, my exercise dwindled down to being non-existent and I ended up losing over 20lbs (today I weigh 165) due to my "Internet Marketing lifestyle" and 97% caffeine diet. lol

After a couple bouts with minor health issues and a trip to the emergency, I snapped out of it and thought I better get back on track. When I hit the scale out of curiosity, I was dumbfounded. I was like "Oh damn, I have no muscle left!" lol

Anyway, I used to work out regularly, and know how to "get into shape", but I was wondering if anyone here had any workout routine/diet tips for putting on that many pounds of muscle, starting from scratch (since I have never been at a point where I wanted to gain this much). I'm hoping I have a little muscle memory left that helps the process kick in faster. lol.

Maybe more water and less caffeine will throw on a pound or two as well? lol

Any fitness gurus have any tips or resources they can send me to?

Cheers!
Jay
#excercise #gym #workout
  • Profile picture of the author jenness
    I'm not a fitness guru but good luck. Protein helps And you should still have some muscle memory so hopefully it'll rebound faster than it took to build.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Shorey
    Don't try to put it back on too quickly as you'll likely put on a lot of fat, too.

    Find out your maintainance calories and add 500 calories a day. A site like Fitday.com is great for tracking the foods you eat. Be sure to get plenty of protein, 1-2 grams per pound of your lean body weight and some good fats. Complex carbs are your friend when bulking.

    Get on a good compound lift strength program like Starting Strength or Stronglifts 5X5 and follow it.

    You should be able to put on muscle fairly easily following this approach.

    If you aren't gaining any weight after a few weeks, add 500 more calories per day, or add in a couple quarts of whole milk a day. Milk does a body good.
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  • Gaining Weight- its a simple formula. More calories in than out. Don't skip meals or even think about eating a salad. Consume tons of meat and carbs and put butter on everything.

    Gaining Muscle- Avoid Cardio! Start your progressive resistance program with a well balanced circuit,and when you can complete 3 rounds, its time to change it up. Heavy weights. Low to moderate reps (no more than 12). And of course, excellent form. You dont need to do every exercise for every body part every day. Use basic multi joint lifts.

    Train your entire body in each session (shouldnt take more than an hour or so). Rest for 3 days. Repeat. Over training will kill your gains

    Remember to hit the large muscle groups first and work to the smaller ones. (legs, back, chest, shoulders, arms, calves).

    You'll see results in 3 weeks and great results in 6 weeks.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      I asked a guy who looked like Mr. Clean but bigger, what was his workout routine. He said 2 hour weight lifting workouts four times a week to build, three times a week to maintain and less than that will lose muscle.

      I also read that after working out hard you should allow 72 hours for your muscles to heal.

      So I work on certain areas on different days and work out every day of the week usually. Here's how I break down the workouts: 1st day work on chest and triceps for about 1 hour 20 minutes ( not up to two hours yet ), 2nd day work on biceps, back and shoulders for 1 hr 20 minutes. 3rd day I work on legs and stomach for about 20 to thirty minutes then I do cardio for at least 45 minutes. I then either go back to day 1 and start over or add another day of cardio. In regards to eating, on the days I lift hard I eat a lot and its a well balanced diet but heavy on the protein. On the days I do cardio I eat less.

      I don't do this routine all the time. Sometimes I get away from lifting and concentrate on running or other cardio.
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      • Profile picture of the author SuiteJ
        Originally Posted by Ken Shorey View Post

        Don't try to put it back on too quickly as you'll likely put on a lot of fat, too.

        Get on a good compound lift strength program like Starting Strength or Stronglifts 5X5 and follow it.

        Milk does a body good.
        Stronglifts 5x5 looks really good, and busy forums too which is great.
        Do you/ did you follow that workout?
        I didn't know about it. Thanks.

        Unfortunately, I'm not a huge fan of milk, but it seems to be common advice as part of a diet for gaining quickly.

        Originally Posted by Infinite Shades of Grey View Post

        Gaining Weight- its a simple formula. More calories in than out. Don't skip meals or even think about eating a salad. Consume tons of meat and carbs and put butter on everything.

        Gaining Muscle- Avoid Cardio!

        Remember to hit the large muscle groups first and work to the smaller ones. (legs, back, chest, shoulders, arms, calves).
        Not too sure about adding butter to everything..lol..., but ya, I hear what you're saying.

        I'm seeing a lot of advice to "avoid cardio". Fine by me. lol. So far, I've just been warming up on the treadmill for 5 or 10 min before workouts, nothing major.

        When I was in shape, I did a regular "isolated workout" - 5 days a week, one muscle group each day. But, I'm getting a lot of advice that it's better to jumpstart back into things by doing full body workouts (each session) for the first while.

        Thanks.

        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        I asked a guy who looked like Mr. Clean but bigger, what was his workout routine. He said 2 hour weight lifting workouts four times a week to build, three times a week to maintain and less than that will lose muscle.

        I also read that after working out hard you should allow 72 hours for your muscles to heal.

        So I work on certain areas on different days and work out every day of the week usually. Here's how I break down the workouts: 1st day work on chest and triceps for about 1 hour 20 minutes ( not up to two hours yet ), 2nd day work on biceps, back and shoulders for 1 hr 20 minutes. 3rd day I work on legs and stomach for about 20 to thirty minutes then I do cardio for at least 45 minutes. I then either go back to day 1 and start over or add another day of cardio. In regards to eating, on the days I lift hard I eat a lot and its a well balanced diet but heavy on the protein. On the days I do cardio I eat less.

        I don't do this routine all the time. Sometimes I get away from lifting and concentrate on running or other cardio.
        lol@ Mr Clean.

        I really want to go 5 days a week, but most people's advice is to take at least 48 hrs, especially after full body workouts, so I might try that for a bit and see how it goes. I seem to stay motivated/build momentum more if I'm going more often than 3 days though. Right now, I'm going 5 days and researching the best workout plan.

        Anyway, thanks for taking the time to post your tips guys. I appreciate it.

        Cheers
        Jay
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        • Profile picture of the author Dana Forsythe
          Sadly I'm in the same boat as you. I work far too much to get any workouts in. But when I WAS in shape I founf that I had to work out before sitting down at the computer. Otherwise id get sucked into one thing after another and before I knew it, it was 10pm again and I was too exhausted to do anything else lol
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    Good thread, keep us informed on what you decide on is the best. I'm looking for a good routine as well, only I'm the opposite. I'm looking to lose a few pounds. I was fairly ripped just a few years ago. But you couldn't tell it by looking at me now. My problem is that I love good food.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dana Forsythe
      Originally Posted by garyv View Post

      Good thread, keep us informed on what you decide on is the best. I'm looking for a good routine as well, only I'm the opposite. I'm looking to lose a few pounds. I was fairly ripped just a few years ago. But you couldn't tell it by looking at me now. My problem is that I love good food.
      I think I just love cheese too much haha. I swear it cures anything. When I have a headache, I eat cheese. When I'm car sick, I eat cheese. When I'm tired, I eat cheese. When I'm freakin sstressed out, I eat cheese... you get the idea lol
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      • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
        Cheese, crackers and wine! :-p
        Originally Posted by Dana Forsythe View Post

        I think I just love cheese too much haha. I swear it cures anything. When I have a headache, I eat cheese. When I'm car sick, I eat cheese. When I'm tired, I eat cheese. When I'm freakin sstressed out, I eat cheese... you get the idea lol
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      • Profile picture of the author garyv
        Originally Posted by Dana Forsythe View Post

        I think I just love cheese too much haha. I swear it cures anything. When I have a headache, I eat cheese. When I'm car sick, I eat cheese. When I'm tired, I eat cheese. When I'm freakin sstressed out, I eat cheese... you get the idea lol
        I love cheese too, buy my cure all is a habanero salsa. I don't know why it works for me. Seems like it would do just the opposite.

        Hopefully I can find a healthy routine that won't make me feel like I'm starving to death.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dana Forsythe
          Originally Posted by garyv View Post

          I love cheese too, buy my cure all is a habanero salsa. I don't know why it works for me. Seems like it would do just the opposite.

          Hopefully I can find a healthy routine that won't make me feel like I'm starving to death.
          I just finished writing a book on cheating weight loss if you want it.. its how I maintain my weight while still sitting all day lol
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          • Profile picture of the author garyv
            Sure where can I get it?
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          • Profile picture of the author Dana Forsythe
            Good question! Currently my computer is down with a virus. Pm me your email and ill send it as soon as I can
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  • Profile picture of the author dremy154
    Originally Posted by SuiteJ View Post

    I'm officially back at the gym, but I have a goal I'm trying to reach without actual knowledge of the "best" way to get there.

    I used to be in pretty good shape and weighed about 185-190lbs. The past 3 years, my exercise dwindled down to being non-existent and I ended up losing over 20lbs (today I weigh 165) due to my "Internet Marketing lifestyle" and 97% caffeine diet. lol

    After a couple bouts with minor health issues and a trip to the emergency, I snapped out of it and thought I better get back on track. When I hit the scale out of curiosity, I was dumbfounded. I was like "Oh damn, I have no muscle left!" lol

    Anyway, I used to work out regularly, and know how to "get into shape", but I was wondering if anyone here had any workout routine/diet tips for putting on that many pounds of muscle, starting from scratch (since I have never been at a point where I wanted to gain this much). I'm hoping I have a little muscle memory left that helps the process kick in faster. lol.

    Maybe more water and less caffeine will throw on a pound or two as well? lol

    Any fitness gurus have any tips or resources they can send me to?

    Cheers!
    Jay
    Hey,

    many people don't realize that the eating Method for losing weight and gaining weight is the same:

    First of all, it ain't just about eating excess calories, THAT IS HOW YOU GET FAT.

    While you do need to eat 3500 calories more per week than you need to maintain basal body functions(3500 cal. more than you need to consume in a week to stay at your current weight, no and current level of activity) the types of calories you eat and when, and how much you eat in one sitting have everything to do with it.

    You should strive to eat 5-6 meals spaced out over the day (snacks count as a meal)
    figure out how many calories you need at your perceived activity level(figure out your routine and what level of intensity you are operating at) and then divide it by 5 or 6.

    If you are lean, or skinny, your intake should be somewhere around 55-60% carbs, 20-25% protien, 20% fat. Don't skip fat, just make sure it's healthy fat, your body needs it. If you are on the "thicker" or smoother side, 50, 30 20, or something close to that.

    CEE works WELL (creatine ethyl ester) and there is no loading or maintenance phase like with creating monohydrate.

    go here, register for a free account, login, and click on the

    NFPT Personal Trainer Software

    enter your details and it will work out how many calories you need per day based on what you enter.

    Hope it helps.

    Drew
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  • Profile picture of the author dremy154
    figure out your routine and what level of intensity you are operating at) and then divide it by 5 or 6


    sorry about that.

    I meant figure out how many calories you need per day based on your activity level and goal, and THEN divide it by 5 or 6 (number of meals per day)
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