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Oh why not-Political Songs

by KimW
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History has a long line of dissent through music. Post some.
I can't say this is my number one in the genre,but it's close.
  • Profile picture of the author Phnx
    Nice one.

    Here's Bob Dylan "Masters Of War" I especially like the line "and I'll stand over your grave till I'm sure that you're dead." Yeah.

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    Another fave from John Lennon

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    Last line of the song,eh?
    Dylan is the ultimate dessent song writer.
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    Maryanne Faithful did a version of that Lennon song thats pretty good too. Hears a song from the same album that has Working Class Hero on it.
    The title track,Breoken English.
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    Ironic, and meaningful that John Kay of Steppenwolf was born in Germany, then moved to Canada, before singing the song about America.

    Great songs in this thread so far.

    Every line of Working Class Hero could be my autobiography.

    Masters Of War is Dylan classic (and, no, not every Dylan song is a classic).
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    I had never heard that Dylan song before, but your right, it's a good song, and you're right, not all Dylan is classic.
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      Originally Posted by KimW View Post

      I had never heard that Dylan song before, but your right, it's a good song, and you're right, not all Dylan is classic.
      That song really resonated with me when I was young, and I used to play it a lot. I was in the Airforce at the time which I suppose is funny with hindsight. In those days you really did join the military as just "a career" with no thought to the nasty business they were really about.

      Weird how I'm starting to get militant again in me old age. I'll be wearing Che Guevara tshirts again at this rate. Remember those?
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        Originally Posted by Phnx View Post

        Weird how I'm starting to get militant again in me old age. I'll be wearing Che Guevara tshirts again at this rate. Remember those?
        Shoot, I remember going and seeing the movie of his life when it came out!
        Che! (1969)
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    Billy Bragg "Between The Wars"

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    I had forgotten Ohio.A classic. That's what getting old will do to you....makes you forgetful.
    C&S&N or C&S&N&Y were one of the "supergroups" of the time.
    Tho I ahve to say out of the 4 I think Young is the only one that maintained that star status without becoming a parody of himself like some of the others did.
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    I'd not heard that Ohio one before Thom, it's very good.

    I'm trying to think of that one that goes '1, 2, 3, what are we fighting for, don't ask me I don't give a damn the next stop is Vietnam. 5, 6, 7, open up the Pearly Gates, ain't no time to wonder why, whoopee we're all gonna die"

    In the meantime another Dylan one "Oxford Town". If I remember rightly this was about the lynchings that the film Mississippi Burning was based on?

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    Good old Google!

    It's "Fixing To Die Rag" by Country Joe Macdonald, Woodstock 1969
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    I actually think it was Country Joe and the Fish (who had the name fish before phish)
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    Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

    It was about the Kent State Massacre of May 4 1970
    Kent State shootings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Ah. That shooting still has the power to shock, even today.
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    This is a classic. I couldn't it on youtube or anyplace else but I found it and you can stream it from here: For those that never heard it before, Let me warn you it's almost 14 minutes long.
    Another clue;it's very similar to the original version of Arlo Guthries Alices Restaraunt.


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    Kate Bush "Army Dreamers"

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    This one is appropriate. The Beatles taking a swipe at the taxman. Think our taxes for very high earners were something ludicrous at the time like 90% (not kidding!)

    The way things are going I shudder to think what your taxes will soon be like after paying the bill for the bailout.

    YouTube - The Beatles - Taxman

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    'K my last one before I hit the sack. John Lennon again, "Woman is the N****r of the World". Bit sad he has to explain it, but then I felt the need to put asterisks rather than spell it. That's conditioning for ya!

    Sad to see him looking so perky and full of life. Incredible to think it's getting on for 30 years since he died.

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      Originally Posted by Phnx View Post

      Sad to see him looking so perky and full of life. Incredible to think it's getting on for 30 years since he died.
      A day that still stings when I think about it. Lennon's murder changed my life in ways that I was too young to understand what had really happened (I was 12 at the time). And now I am going to be as old as he was when he was brutally shot down.

      Now that you mention it, his birthday is just around the corner. On October 9th, he would have been 68 years old. I often wonder what kind of world we would be living in if John had been around for the past 28 years.

      I used to wear all black on Dec. 8th for many years, but realized he would not want darkness to be that big in our lives.

      I was fortunate enough to see the Lennon exhibit on one of my three trips to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. There were all kinds of items from his life. Report cards, school drawings, his bed form the Bed In for Peace, his Sgt. Pepper's uniform, and...

      In the outer there was a tall column with little cubby holes in it. You would walk around, and could only see what was in each one if you got up real close and purposely peeked in. There, in one of the holes, was something I had to look at a bit at a time. I would gingerly step up, take a little peek, and had to back away; each time getting more courage and adding to my resolve. Finally, I took the full look at the broken, and still blood-stained eyeglasses John was wearing the night he was murdered. I walked over to my wife, hugged her, and wept like a baby. Even writing this now is difficult.

      Anyway, just wanted to show that we remember. Now, back to your regular scheduled program.

      ~Michael
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      • Profile picture of the author Patrician
        Thanks for sharing these heartfelt words Michael. It's just so sad. We have lost so many artistic geniuses so young. It almost goes with the territory. In most cases though I feel like we all have so many watts and they just burn them out quicker being 'all that'. But, in John's case, it was just so obscene. I still remember the day clearly as well.

        What? wearing black means you are dark? Go figure. I wear black everyday and am most happy in all black. It is the color of 'authority' - cops, judges, pastors, etc. In my case, think thin. lol.


        Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

        A day that still stings when I think about it. Lennon's murder changed my life in ways that I was too young to understand what had really happened (I was 12 at the time). And now I am going to be as old as he was when he was brutally shot down.

        Now that you mention it, his birthday is just around the corner. On October 9th, he would have been 68 years old. I often wonder what kind of world we would be living in if John had been around for the past 28 years.

        I used to wear all black on Dec. 8th for many years, but realized he would not want darkness to be that big in our lives.

        I was fortunate enough to see the Lennon exhibit on one of my three trips to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. There were all kinds of items from his life. Report cards, school drawings, his bed form the Bed In for Peace, his Sgt. Pepper's uniform, and...

        In the outer there was a tall column with little cubby holes in it. You would walk around, and could only see what was in each one if you got up real close and purposely peeked in. There, in one of the holes, was something I had to look at a bit at a time. I would gingerly step up, take a little peek, and had to back away; each time getting more courage and adding to my resolve. Finally, I took the full look at the broken, and still blood-stained eyeglasses John was wearing the night he was murdered. I walked over to my wife, hugged her, and wept like a baby. Even writing this now is difficult.

        Anyway, just wanted to show that we remember. Now, back to your regular scheduled program.

        ~Michael
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    Add just about every song done by Mojo Nixon...
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    Never heard him Kurt, give us an example
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    Here is one I didn't think much of at the time ( I was a young snot nosed punk) but I still think it's a classic and I probably listen to it a few times a month(along with eve of destruction) since we invaded Iraq. Such a waste of our youth and our countrys resources.
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    This one always gets me. I hear it's popular at Veteran funerals.

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    Lynyrd Skynyrd's ONLY political statement...the "polished" version. The original can be found in the Muscle Shoals recordings...

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    I think that may be Mark Lindsey by himself, I don;t see Paul Revere in it (I'm not joking either),but then again, it may be correct.
    But your Nelson Mandella made me thing of this:
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Sorry to be so picky about this stuff, but music is my thing.

      Originally Posted by KimW View Post

      I actually think it was Country Joe and the Fish (who had the name fish before phish)
      That is partially correct. Country and the Fish did the studio version of Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-To-Die Rag, and Country Joe and the Fish performed at Woodstock - However, Country Joe McDonald did a solo rendition of the song at the festival. So, you are not necessarily incorrect, but the live version is sans Fish.

      Originally Posted by Dave Patterson View Post

      Lynyrd Skynyrd's ONLY political statement...the "polished" version. The original can be found in the Muscle Shoals recordings...
      I always thought Skynyrd was a bit political in a lot of their songs. At least in the sense that they songs about things that effected their (and their fan's) lives. For example Saturday Night Special takes a clear stance on gun control.

      "...Handguns are made for killin',
      They ain't no good for nothin' else"

      and...

      "So why don't we dump all the people [referring to handgun owners],
      To the bottom of the sea;
      Before some old fool come around here,
      And want to shoot either you or me"

      Political? I think so. (Sorry if the lyrics are a bit off, they are from memory)

      Originally Posted by KimW View Post

      I think that may be Mark Lindsey by himself, I don;t see Paul Revere in it (I'm not joking either),but then again, it may be correct.
      This may not help, but I noticed the YouTube title had the name of the band wrong. When Indian Reservation went to #1, they were billing themselves as the Raiders, so Mark Lindsay being there without Mr. Revere could be a possibility.

      Rock on!
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        Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post




        I always thought Skynyrd was a bit political in a lot of their songs. At least in the sense that they songs about things that effected their (and their fan's) lives. For example Saturday Night Special takes a clear stance on gun control.

        "...Handguns are made for killin',
        They ain't no good for nothin' else"

        and...

        "So why don't we dump all the people [referring to handgun owners],
        To the bottom of the sea;
        Before some old fool come around here,
        And want to shoot either you or me"

        Political? I think so. (Sorry if the lyrics are a bit off, they are from memory)
        I was always under the impression that "Saturday Night Special" was written for the movie "The Longest Yard" and wasn't any kind of statement at all...at least on Skynyrds part...but it appears I was misguided and it just MAY have been based on Ronnie Van Zant's own personal feelings...

        To find out I asked Ed King and he replied...

        "The song was written weeks before we knew it would be in the movie. The song wasn't written about any particular experience that I'm aware of. I was the FIRST PERSON to ever hear the lyrics. While going over the song with the entire band (as Ronnie was writing it), Ronnie walked over and cupped my ear with his hand and ran down the entire first verse.
        Leon and I were auditioning Artimus Pyle in Atlanta and were working up a three-piece version of SNS. Kooper stopped by and told us about the movie - we packed everything up, moved over to the studio and cut it...no vocals or other guitars. "
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          Originally Posted by Dave Patterson View Post

          I was always under the impression that "Saturday Night Special" was written for the movie "The Longest Yard" and wasn't any kind of statement at all...at least on Skynyrds part...but it appears I was misguided and it just MAY have been based on Ronnie Van Zant's own personal feelings...

          To find out I asked Ed King and he replied...

          "The song was written weeks before we knew it would be in the movie. The song wasn't written about any particular experience that I'm aware of. I was the FIRST PERSON to ever hear the lyrics. While going over the song with the entire band (as Ronnie was writing it), Ronnie walked over and cupped my ear with his hand and ran down the entire first verse.
          Leon and I were auditioning Artimus Pyle in Atlanta and were working up a three-piece version of SNS. Kooper stopped by and told us about the movie - we packed everything up, moved over to the studio and cut it...no vocals or other guitars. "
          Very cool! I always thought it was shame that Strawberry Alarm Clock didn't get the credit they deserved, Mr. King included.

          I'm not sure if the answer supports my view of the song or not, but I can't argue with first-hand experience. Either way, I still like the song.

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    Bono is a pillock but he can put out a good tune.

    I'm rather fond of these anthem type songs.


    A cool one from the 80's


    LOL at the Redneck Rampage, Kurt!
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    Patrician,
    I go through times I wear almost all black, and i'm in my 50's, not some goth or emo dude...lol
    Michael,
    I am sure you (and I ) are correct. Just because Youtube vid "says" PR and The Raiders, doesn't make it so. I've seen many mislabeled things on there.
    Maybe later I'll scan a cover from an LP and let you all see what I'm taling about.Oh, another tell tale sign could be they are not wearing those cheesy costumes they wore in their hey dey. lol

    Kurt,
    I was wrong, I had heard Mojo Nixon before, I just didn't know who it was.
    Good stuff.

    Lastly tho, even though I know longer partake, I think this is one of the funniest MJ songs ever, I'm surprised no one commented on it
    Jamie Brockett Legend of the U.S.S Titanic - FREE MP3 Stream - Listen on IMEEM Music which spewaking on MJ songs, lead to the next post.
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      Originally Posted by KimW View Post


      Lastly tho, even though I know longer partake, I think this is one of the funniest MJ songs ever, I'm surprised no one commented on it
      Jamie Brockett Legend of the U.S.S Titanic - FREE MP3 Stream - Listen on IMEEM Music which spewaking on MJ songs, lead to the next post.
      Heheh now you know why I've taken to pasting articles instead of just linking. Most people just won't click, it's infuriating. One of the blessings of embedding vids is it encourages people to click the bloody thing!

      In this case though, I get a 404.

      edit: I've managed to get the first link working.....you are right it is hilarious. And impressive. My word he would have had to remain clear headed to remember all that, and not run out of breath the speed he was going. That's a story not a song! Awesome.
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        Originally Posted by Phnx View Post

        Heheh now you know why I've taken to pasting articles instead of just linking. Most people just won't click, it's infuriating. One of the blessings of embedding vids is it encourages people to click the bloody thing!

        In this case though, I get a 404.

        edit: I've managed to get the first link working.....you are right it is hilarious. And impressive. My word he would have had to remain clear headed to remember all that, and not run out of breath the speed he was going. That's a story not a song! Awesome.
        Imagine yourself on a US Navy Guided Missile Destroyer...at sea.

        I was on one (USS Mahan DDG-42) from '76-'80... seems that song would play in the background on the ships intercom system almost 24/7 the last couple years I was aboard when we were at sea.
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    More Steppenwolf:

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    Pat and Kim, count me as another one for teh black. I like it with red too. Pastels are for wimps.

    Another couple of the more 'traditional' protests. I've been singing these all day.


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    Rage Against the Machine - Testify

    The movie ran through me
    The glamour subdued me
    The tabloid untied me
    I'm empty please fill me
    Mister anchor assure me
    That Baghdad is burning
    Your voice it is so soothing
    That cunning mantra of killing
    I need you my witness
    To dress this up so bloodless
    To numb me and purge me now
    Of thoughts of blaming you
    Yes the car is our wheelchair
    My witness your coughing
    Oily silence mocks the legless boys
    Who travel now in coffins
    On the corner
    The jury's sleepless
    We found your weakness
    And it's right outside your door

    Now testify
    Now testify
    It's right outside your door
    Now testify
    Yes testify
    Its right outside your door

    With precision you feed me
    My witness I'm hungry
    Your temple it calms me
    So I can carry on
    My slaving sweating the skin right off my bones
    On a bed of fire I'm choking on the smoke that fills my home
    The wrecking ball is rushing
    Witness your blushing
    The pipeline is gushing
    While here we lie in tombs
    While on the corner
    The jury's sleepless
    We found your weakness
    And it's right outside your door

    Now testify
    Yeah testify
    It's right outside your door
    Now testify
    Now testify
    It's right outside your door

    Mass graves for the pump and the price is set
    And the price is set
    Mass graves for the pump and the price is set
    And the price is set
    Mass graves for the pump and the price is set
    And the price is set
    Mass graves for the pump and the price is set
    And the price is set

    Who controls the past now controls the future
    Who controls the present now controls the past
    Who controls the past now controls the future
    Who controls the present now?

    Now testify
    Testify
    It's right outside your door
    Now testify
    Testify
    The war is right outside your door
    System of a Down - B.Y.O.B.

    Why do they always send the poor?
    My God is of Bible blood with pointed ears
    Victorious, victorious steel
    Can your spending kneel?
    Marching forward hypocritic
    And hypnotic computers
    You depend on our protection
    Yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth
    La la la la la la la la la la
    Everybody is going to the party
    Have a real good time
    Dancing in the desert
    Blowing up the sunshine
    Kneeling roses
    Disappearing into Moses' dry mouth
    Breaking into Fort Knox
    Stealing our intentions
    Every city, gripped in oil
    Crying freedom!
    Handed to obsoletion
    Still you feed us lies from the tablecloth
    la la la la la la la la la la
    Everybody is going to the party
    Have a real good time
    Dancing in the desert
    Blowing up the sunshine
    Everybody is going to the party
    Have a real good time
    Dancing in the desert
    Blowing up the sunshine
    Blast off, it's party time
    And we all live in a fascist nation
    Blast off, it's party time
    And where the **** are you?
    Where the **** are you?
    Where the **** are you?
    Why don't presidents fight the war?
    Why do they always send the poor?
    Why don't presidents fight the war?
    Why do they always send the poor?
    Why do they always send the poor?
    Why do they always send the poor?
    Why do they always send the poor?
    Kneeling roses
    Disappearing into Moses' dry mouth
    Breaking into Fort Knox
    Stealing our intentions
    Every city, gripped in oil
    Crying freedom!
    Handed to a obsoletion
    Still you feed us lies from the tablecloth
    la la la la la la la la la la
    Everybody is going to the party
    Have a real good time
    Dancing in the desert
    Blowing up the sunshine
    Everybody is going to the party
    Have a real good time
    Dancing in the desert
    Blowing up the sun
    Where the **** are you?
    Where the **** are you?
    Why don't presidents fight the war?
    Why do they always send the poor?
    Why don't presidents fight the war?
    Why do they always send the poor?
    Why do they always send the poor?
    Why do they always send the poor?
    Why do they always send the poor?
    Why do they always send the poor?
    Why do they always send the poor?
    They always send the poor!
    They always send the poor!
    Stereolab - Ping Pong
    it's alright 'cos the historical pattern has shown
    how the economical cycle tends to revolve
    in a round of decades three stages stand out in a loop
    a slump and war then peel back to square one and back for more

    bigger slump and bigger wars and a smaller recovery
    huger slump and greater wars and a shallower recovery

    you see the recovery always comes 'round again
    there's nothing to worry for things will look after themselves
    it's alright recovery always comes 'round again
    there's nothing to worry if things can only get better

    there's only millions that lose their jobs and homes and sometimes accents
    there's only millions that die in their bloody wars, it's alright

    it's only their lives and the lives of their next of kin that they are losing
    it's only their lives and the lives of their next of kin that they are losing

    it's alright 'cos the historical pattern has shown
    how the economical cycle tends to revolve
    in a round of decades three stages stand out in a loop
    a slump and war then peel back to square one and back for more

    bigger slump and bigger wars and a smaller recovery
    huger slump and greater wars and a shallower recovery

    don't worry be happy things will get better naturally
    don't worry shut up sit down go with it and be happy

    dum, dum, dum, de dum dum, de duh de duh de dum dum dum... ah ah
    dum, dum, dum, de dum dum, de duh de duh de dum dum dum... ah ah
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    Here's one that caused a good deal of controversy by taking a pop at the British establishment of the time. (This is a studio version)

    What's really funny, is that Johnny Rotten recently appeared on a reality show where he roughed it in the jungle. It was truly a surreal experience watching him being pecked by ostriches. What was even more surreal was the establishment was acting as if he'd betrayed them by selling out. All those middle aged journalists were so utterly bewildered that he would do this. (He got the hump after a week or so, and after an entertaining rant buggered off home.)

    He turned out to be quite charismatic and witty. Who'da thunk?

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