Bill O'Reilly snaps at a congressman on live television: Why?

by yuri12
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I recently heard about this news and it's not exactly from FOX but from another channel that featured The Factor man using words like "Bull" and "idiot" while talking with a democrat congressman. Is this true? Now why would you do that to a civil servant? Was Bill right to express outrage? To berate someone in his own show? I mean, I've heard of radio and satirical news doing such dastardly acts for fun, but would you start something as appalling as what O'Reilly did in a show where you discuss votes to approve the bailout package? So when it wasn't passed, you raise hell for everyone to see how great it is to put down a congressman?
  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Those "yes" voting Congress tyrants just shredded our constitution and raped the citizens for all they had left - and unbridled power - yes they deserve every damned thing they hear from anyone.

    I don't know where you're from - but in America the constitution of the land is supposed to reign supreme.....and the public will is to be followed. Our legislators just got the largest reaction from the public in reaction to proposed legislation, a legislation which hands fascist power to the leaders, and that reaction was - "NO WAY". Yet they did it anyways. We were sold for greed, and the financial graft which allowed them to do so was totally manipulated, and avoidable, the consequences were known years ago and suppressed and unleashed only when a state of emergency could be declared. Those that voted "yes" to that bail out are treasoners in every sense of the word.

    They don't deserve anything less than all being taken in front of the Gulag, prosecuted, and hung like the dogs they are.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      It's his show - it's entertainment - he can say what he wants. I don't have to watch it (and don't).
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        It's his show - it's entertainment - he can say what he wants. I don't have to watch it (and don't).
        News is now ENTERTAINMENT? Oh crap.
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        • Profile picture of the author yuri12
          I agree with your sentiments HeySal, the show is more of a discussion and a debate show, rather than entertainment. I also believe that the constitution should be followed and respected, even if it does not favor the majority. What is for the common good is relative but to malign a public servant on live television is crass and lacks discernment for the current state of economics and common courtesy. Bill O'Reilly is a bane to Republicans. His style of breathing down opponents is ridiculous and feeble in attempting to win the hearts of viewers who may have an opposing view to what Democrats are trying to push for.

          Bipartisan politics really confuses me sometimes, you hear something old and something new from both sides, and the marginalized poor and middle class are always in the middle and they pay for it dearly in the end.
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    Right - Bill O, may be obnoxious and outrageous but at least he tells the truth which is odd.
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Davis
    Like him or not, O'Reilly is the highest rated cable news program every night and has been for years.

    And who can blame him for lambasting Barney Frank?
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas
    Originally Posted by yuri12 View Post

    Now why would you do that to a civil servant? Was Bill right to express outrage? To berate someone in his own show? I mean, I've heard of radio and satirical news doing such dastardly acts for fun, but would you start something as appalling as what O'Reilly did in a show where you discuss votes to approve the bailout package? So when it wasn't passed, you raise hell for everyone to see how great it is to put down a congressman?
    I think you're over-reacting a bit.

    This looks like the transcript:

    FOXNews.com - Bill O'Reilly Battles Rep. Barney Frank Over Financial Crisis - Bill O'Reilly | The O'Reilly Factor

    It looks pretty tame. The worst thing in it is the Congressman saying O'Reilly was too dumb to understand what he was saying.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Originally Posted by Thomas View Post

      It looks pretty tame. The worst thing in it is the Congressman saying O'Reilly was too dumb to understand what he was saying.
      It actually wasn't that tame. I saw it live by chance even though I rarely watch the Factor and was surprised because O'Reilly just starts yelling. Check it out:

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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        News is now ENTERTAINMENT? Oh crap.
        O'Reilly is not a newsman - even Fox doesn't call him that. He's variously referred to as a Political Commentator or Political Pundit.

        edit: I should add here that O'Reilly's comments are quite similar to those made by some who called themselves "news anchors". That says more about the "newsmen" than O'Reilly.

        His show is opinion and controversy that is based on actual news events and then slanted to fit O'Reilly's commentary.

        I will say, though, that I would pick O'Reilly over Limbaugh any day.

        I prefer Lou Dobbs myself.

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        • Profile picture of the author Patrician
          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          I will say, though, that I would pick O'Reilly over Limbaugh any day.

          I prefer Lou Dobbs myself.

          kay
          I agree anything is preferable to Limbaugh

          I agree - I wish Lou Dobbs would run for office. He totally doesn't miss a trick. While he is honest and quite adamant, he doesn't get nasty like Bill O'.

          Originally Posted by Michael Ellis View Post

          Poor ol' Barney... takes blame for nothing... he deserves a good yelling at, and a swift kick out of office.
          Yell, Swift kick and then somebody needs to get the marbles out of his mouth. You can barely understand him and he always looks like he slept in his clothes and needs to wash his face.

          He does give the impression that even if you stuck a neon sign in his face he would not get it that he is either very stupid or very crooked or both.
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      • Profile picture of the author Thomas
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        It actually wasn't that tame. I saw it live by chance even though I rarely watch the Factor and was surprised because O'Reilly just starts yelling. Check it out:
        Actually, when it see it on video (instead of just reading the transcript), it does look "less tame".
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    • Profile picture of the author yuri12
      Originally Posted by Thomas View Post

      I think you're over-reacting a bit.

      This looks like the transcript:

      FOXNews.com - Bill O'Reilly Battles Rep. Barney Frank Over Financial Crisis - Bill O'Reilly | The O'Reilly Factor

      It looks pretty tame. The worst thing in it is the Congressman saying O'Reilly was too dumb to understand what he was saying.
      I guess that made the congressman snap too but that doesn't excuse Bill O'Reilly for interrupting him over and over again just to prove a point that the Congressman was excusing himself from the blame. It just makes no sense having a discussion when someone interrupts you and then you react on what the Congressman replied to what is obviously a stupid way of making a dialogue. I may not like the Congressman and his response to the topic but O'Reilly was way out of line from the get-go of the segment. If the Congressman was distorting his statements, Bill was distorting it even further by harassing the Congressman for the truth. I guess that's the reason why FOX hired him. And have you guys noticed, a lot of the people from the Democrats side are also interrupted. From the subtle (Cavuto) to the illogical (O'Reilly). I just don't think it's healthy for viewers.
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  • Profile picture of the author ctutt
    Interesting discussion!

    I think "we the people" have been largely equally irresponsible in this whole mess. How much "oversight" have YOU been giving to your 'civil servant representatives'? Do you even know who yours are? If so, do they know where you stand? Have you provided them with "direction" or let them know your wishes?

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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by ctutt View Post

      Interesting discussion!

      I think "we the people" have been largely equally irresponsible in this whole mess. How much "oversight" have YOU been giving to your 'civil servant representatives'? Do you even know who yours are? If so, do they know where you stand? Have you provided them with "direction" or let them know your wishes?

      Charles
      That's true to an extent - but people have been waking up and it doesn't matter what we tell our reps to do. Case in point - this became very noticeable in 2005 when they received 50 million letters telling them to vote down CODEX - and they voted it in anyway. The outcry they are getting for many legislations is loud any more - with the bailout completely shouting them down - and they DO NOT RESPOND as a whole. You get a few here and there that listen and do respond, but the majority rule in favor of anything that pays them off well to rule for. When the telecom amnesty bill went through there were large amounts of petitions and letter writing -the bill kept being voted down and just kept being brought back by Bushco. Finally the telecoms had to walk in and pay off our congress to vote it in. Now because of the payoff - not only did telecoms get off scott free for illegal surveillance, it is now legal for them to do it, and much more of it. - Right now they are in the process of shutting down our freedom of speech completely. That's going to be fun to get tased and go to jail any time you say something they don't want to hear, eh?

      And people generally didn't realize we were in any trouble because they count on the Corporate owned news to tell them when something is wrong and if people tell them anything the news doesn't they are programmed to automatically yell "conspiracy theorist".

      How do you get through to people brainwashed on TV, pharmacueticals, fluoridated water, and cell phones, and illegal Pentagon propanda and disinformation programs?
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  • Profile picture of the author ctutt
    Oh, one more thing. I'm starting to track proposals, issues, voting records and "pork" content related to everything my representatives do from now on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Ellis
    Poor ol' Barney... takes blame for nothing... he deserves a good yelling at, and a swift kick out of office.
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    • Profile picture of the author TE2
      Originally Posted by Michael Ellis View Post

      Poor ol' Barney... takes blame for nothing... he deserves a good yelling at, and a swift kick out of office.
      Yup, as of yesterday, Barney was still blaming everyone else.

      His commercial is equally ignorant...

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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    What would really be shocking was if O'Reilly was ever polite to anyone!
    "This is why your stupidity gets in the way of rational discussion"
    Classic line!
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  • Profile picture of the author crothall
    Well, it doesn't surprise me...many of the pundits I see on TV look like they have so much pent up rage inside of them. In a twisted way, maybe it's good that they have some sort of outlet to channel their frustrations. We can't expect politics to be fair and balanced, because the presidential debates aren't even judged by a panel of experts.
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    • Profile picture of the author crothall
      Originally Posted by HarveyJ View Post

      I'm amazed that O'Reilly is still allowed on TV, but then again, it's FOX.
      This is not only a man that's been outed time and again for outright lying to people, he also abuses his guests on a regular basis, and sexually abuses his staffers... Falafel incident, anyone?
      Seriously, just go to Google and look up "o'reilly falafel"... 76 point sexual harassment suit. Bet you didn't hear about that on Faux News.
      (and don't give me BS about him being innocent because it never went to trial. He knew he'd lose the case, so he settled out of court like any guilty party does)
      Well, that's pretty serious, not that it's surprising though. I personally can't stand to watch Fox News, I don't know how the viewers can be in such selective denial of what's happening in politics. I guess that goes with being a faithful party member though. Stand by your camp and doublethink all the hypocrisy.
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