Tiger Woods forgiven??

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Hi,

I am a fan of Tiger Woods because he's fun to watch playing golf.

Are there any golf fans on this forum and have any of you decided not to watch him or support him because of this cheating ways?

Maybe he's rehabilitated ?
  • Profile picture of the author DotComBum
    I think we should give him a chance if he really had turned over to a new leaf.

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  • Profile picture of the author Sue McDonald
    No - I think everyone will still be watching the golfer Tiger Woods but the man has certainly tarnished his image.
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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    Prior to his "incident(s)", he played at a tournament in Melbourne. He behaved like a complete spoilt-brat prima-donna on and off the course..

    I can forgive him his transgressions with his harem, but not being an arrogant pr|ck.

    If he's learned what humility means, all well and good. If not then goodbye and good riddance to him.

    Being good at a sport does not a role model make, no matter how much the media tries to convince us otherwise.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
    Its not my place or job to forgive him...he didnt do anything to me and as far as im concerned, his marital issues are between him and his wife.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay Zee
      Originally Posted by Michael Motley View Post

      Its not my place or job to forgive him...he didnt do anything to me and as far as im concerned, his marital issues are between him and his wife.
      This /thread. The media reaction to him was ridiculous.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    People like that DON'T change! The "apology" makes things WORSE in my book.

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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    Who cares what the guy did in his personal life? The guy gets paid to hit a tiny ball into a tiny hole. I believe the guy's name is Tiger Woods - NOT Tiger's Wood. We need to be focusing more on the guy's stroke... wait that didn't come out right. We should be keeping our eye on the guys putter... nope still not right. Well forget about Tiger Woods. I hear that the caddy is mostly responsible for most of his winnings anyway. So let's focus on the person that carry's his ball sack.... Oh forget it... Golf sucks!
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    I'm curious to see if Tiger will be the player he was in the past, since he's probably not going to be doing what he was doing before - off the course.

    Will it affect his game???

    Only time will tell.

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    Ps. I noticed he was wearing shades during practice.

    Will he be wearing shades when he plays for real???
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  • Profile picture of the author pangx623
    Tiger's only sorry he got caught cheating. If he had the chance he'll do it again. What did his personal life have to do with golf? For me, I don't care what he does off the course, I was just studying how he plays golf so I can apply some of his techniques to mine.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      I forgive Tiger. He may now continue his life.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Chess players study the games of master players, and even name some of the gambits.

        In this case, Eldrick is playing the classic "Hollywood Defense" - weep a few crocodile tears, read a carefully written apology claiming to be the victim of an addiction, then disappear into rehab until the media finds a new shiny object to fixate on. Based on some of the comments I've heard on TV, it's working again.

        One comedian, can't remember who, when asked about Tiger's mastery of the game of golf, quipped, "he should be good at it, it's the only thing he's done for most of his life." Now it seems there were two things...
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  • Profile picture of the author Andie
    I hate it when MM types my thoughts before I do (but I'll forgive HIM)

    I've nothing to forgive Tiger for either. Feel sorry for the ones that have their intimate lives dissected in the media - there isn't much of a 'private' life for ones in the spotlight; and if you put yourself in the spotlight you should set a good example for your followers.

    yeah...golf sucks anyway

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  • Profile picture of the author johnny_h
    I don't think he's such a bad person... he had an affair - it is a big deal, especially to those close to him, but check out things like ashleymadison.com that promote having an affair as healthy (seriously, that's their pitch)... Tiger's a great golfer, the affair didn't change that. If he keeps winning he'll still have fans.

    Incidentally, I saw this on Bill Maher the other nite - kind of offensive, so I'm just going to put the link and not the video itself. I think he said it was an email or a text or a voicemail from Tiger to his mistress XD - if you missed it, you gotta watch it - it blew my mind and made me ROFLOL for like 5 minutes, (never mind that, the forrum adds it in there automatically - seriously, this may offend some, so if you don't like cursing or sexual stuff, DON'T WATCH THIS!)

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  • Profile picture of the author dlucca
    Tig didn't have "an affair". He has a sexual addiction. I would guess it takes more than 4 months of hiding to change. I wish him the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author sarahberra
    I don't see what all the hype was about. Tiger woods is a jerk but everyone is still talking about this. There are more important things going on in the world.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by sarahberra View Post

      I don't see what all the hype was about. Tiger woods is a jerk but everyone is still talking about this. There are more important things going on in the world.
      Yeah, like Sandra Bullock and Jesse James, apparently... :p
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    "Tig didn't have "an affair". He has a sexual addiction. "

    I crack up everytime I hear something so lame.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Will Tiger win the Masters???

    Will Tiger place in the top 10??

    How will he do??

    Will the big change in his routine affect his game negatively?

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  • Profile picture of the author BrainCopy
    I love Tiger Woods, I could honestly care less what he does. It's his business not ours.
    I sure wouldn't want everyone in the world in my personal life what so ever.
    I think we need to just leave these celebrities alone...Their humans like us.

    Just my $.02
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    • Profile picture of the author butters
      Personally, I don't see why he should be let off... He is a role model to many young people, a roll which shouldn't be took lightly and if he isn't up for it, he should of never took on the responsibility. People say it's his own life, that's true but if you want to be a celebrity, you are basically forfeiting your right to be a "normal person". His role comes with responsibilities, he didn't live up to them responsibilities... Should he be given a second chance, no not in my opinion, should he be allowed to continue you with golf, sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
    His only 'responsibility' is to his sponsors. I doubt there are many kids that look up to a pro golf player
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    • Profile picture of the author butters
      Originally Posted by Michael Motley View Post

      His only 'responsibility' is to his sponsors. I doubt there are many kids that look up to a pro golf player
      Tiger woods is one of the biggest sportsmen in the world, of course kids look up to him... Considering that some of his products he sponsored are commonly used by kids, then I would say that a lot of kids know about him, know him, read about him and doesn't really help them reading that he was cheating. This is just my opinion anyway.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
        Originally Posted by butters View Post

        Tiger woods is one of the biggest sportsmen in the world, of course kids look up to him... Considering that some of his products he sponsored are commonly used by kids, then I would say that a lot of kids know about him, know him, read about him and doesn't really help them reading that he was cheating. This is just my opinion anyway.
        He's sponsored by nike golf Now granted there are probably a handful of kids that like the sport of golf, but i doubt there are enough kids on the playground dreaming of the back nine to worry about degrading an entire generation of people.

        And seeing as how there is an over 50% divorce rate in this country with the second leading reason being infidelity...this probably isnt something they don't already see at home.
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        • Profile picture of the author butters
          Originally Posted by Michael Motley View Post

          He's sponsored by nike golf Now granted there are probably a handful of kids that like the sport of golf, but i doubt there are enough kids on the playground dreaming of the back nine to worry about degrading an entire generation of people.

          And seeing as how there is an over 50% divorce rate in this country with the second leading reason being infidelity...this probably isnt something they don't already see at home.
          This is just my opinion, also Tiger Woods is a global celeb, not just America...
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  • Profile picture of the author sloanjim
    The staged apology was a joke. You could almost see people behind him telling him to pause..eyes down, look sad, take a deep breath...continue. Pathetic. The press were only allowed to take pictures..no questions.

    It's all a game to these people. He's only sorry he got caught.
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  • Profile picture of the author sloanjim
    The fact is they have the money/power to do as they want.

    "I did not have a sexual relationship with that girl..." What was it 2 months later he had to admit he was lying...But he's jst the President. What does it matter? I guess we are all idiots for taking it all seriously?

    Lying seems to have become "cool" these days.

    "Tig didn't have "an affair". He has a sexual addiction. "
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
      Originally Posted by sloanjim View Post

      The fact is they have the money/power to do as they want.

      "I did not have a sexual relationship with that girl..." What was it 2 months later he had to admit he was lying...But he's jst the President. What does it matter? I guess we are all idiots for taking it all seriously?

      Lying seems to have become "cool" these days.
      And exactly how were you personally hurt that either one of those men had extramarital affairs?

      Clinton's affair doesnt change the fact that he was groomed from practically birth to be a president or change the fact that tiger woods is a golf god, and thats all the farther their lives are impacted by yours. You're not dating either one of those guys, they aren't married to your sister.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by Michael Motley View Post

        And exactly how were you personally hurt that either one of those men had extramarital affairs?

        Clinton's affair doesn't change the fact that he was groomed from practically birth to be a president or change the fact that tiger woods is a golf god, and that's all the farther their lives are impacted by yours. You're not dating either one of those guys, they aren't married to your sister.
        I always figured Clinton came by the nickname "Slick Willie" for more than just his way with words... :rolleyes:

        As for Woods, he's in the same boat. Golf is the only thing he's been groomed to do since birth, so he should be good at it.

        I do agree with you, though. What, or who, some celebrity is doing in their free time doesn't interest me. I've never understood why people got such a jones for knowing every detail about the private lives of actors, models, athletes, etc. Now it's even extending to the people who do make a living acting like some starlet getting drunk at a club is big news.

        I do wonder, though, how having his nine-iron put through the back window of his car might affect his short game, or if his putter will flutter...:p
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          I always figured Clinton came by the nickname "Slick Willie" for more than just his way with words... :rolleyes:

          As for Woods, he's in the same boat. Golf is the only thing he's been groomed to do since birth, so he should be good at it.

          I do agree with you, though. What, or who, some celebrity is doing in their free time doesn't interest me. I've never understood why people got such a jones for knowing every detail about the private lives of actors, models, athletes, etc. Now it's even extending to the people who do make a living acting like some starlet getting drunk at a club is big news.

          I do wonder, though, how having his nine-iron put through the back window of his car might affect his short game, or if his putter will flutter...:p
          Nah..clinton was a dyed in the wool bullsh*tter. He got away with a lot of stuff just because of his ability to bs his way out of it. However, he was also a rhodes scholar and a fairly successful lawyer. He litterally had been aiming for the presidency since childhood. His marital issues doesnt affect his ability in my eyes, and people being 'shocked' that a president lies is laughable at best.
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          • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
            Originally Posted by Michael Motley View Post

            Nah..clinton was a dyed in the wool bullsh*tter. He got away with a lot of stuff just because of his ability to bs his way out of it. However, he was also a rhodes scholar and a fairly successful lawyer. He litterally had been aiming for the presidency since childhood. His marital issues doesnt affect his ability in my eyes, and people being 'shocked' that a president lies is laughable at best.
            Agreed, on both counts. I just thought maybe he got that nickname form getting his willie slick so often...
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Since this is a marketing forum...Instead of "foregiving" Tiger, how many of you would/wouldn't keep Tiger as a representative for your company/brand?
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    • Profile picture of the author Andie
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Since this is a marketing forum...Instead of "foregiving" Tiger, how many of you would/wouldn't keep Tiger as a representative for your company/brand?

      His sponsors will/will not choose to keep him based on the general 'consumers' forgiveness. If the public forgives (based on in-depth marketing research of course) then they don't risk their product being 'shunned' due to association with the 'unforgiven' one.

      and we all know what the sponsors care about and it isn't really about Tiger at all.

      my2cents
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by Andie View Post

        His sponsors will/will not choose to keep him based on the general 'consumers' forgiveness. If the public forgives (based on in-depth marketing research of course) then they don't risk their product being 'shunned' due to association with the 'unforgiven' one.

        and we all know what the sponsors care about and it isn't really about Tiger at all.

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        Actually, my question was literal...Would YOU keep paying Tiger millions of dollars to represent your company?

        Honestly, I don't blame the sponsors...They've paid Tiger 100's of millions of dollars and IMO have a right to certain expectations.

        To answer my own question, if I was selling anything that wasn't golf related, I'd fire Tiger. If I was selling golf stuff, I'd probably keep him, thinking golf fans don't care as much about his personal flaws.
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          Actually, my question was literal...Would YOU keep paying Tiger millions of dollars to represent your company?

          Honestly, I don't blame the sponsors...They've paid Tiger 100's of millions of dollars and IMO have a right to certain expectations.

          To answer my own question, if I was selling anything that wasn't golf related, I'd fire Tiger. If I was selling golf stuff, I'd probably keep him, thinking golf fans don't care as much about his personal flaws.
          My answer would be close to yours, Kurt. I'd keep him, unless his golf game followed his personal life down the crapper. If it did, I'd 86 him...
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        • Profile picture of the author Andie
          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          Actually, my question was literal...Would YOU keep paying Tiger millions of dollars to represent your company?

          Honestly, I don't blame the sponsors...They've paid Tiger 100's of millions of dollars and IMO have a right to certain expectations.

          To answer my own question, if I was selling anything that wasn't golf related, I'd fire Tiger. If I was selling golf stuff, I'd probably keep him, thinking golf fans don't care as much about his personal flaws.

          Well, if it was actually up to me, he'd be out of sponsor income and mourning the loss of his family (can't tolerate cheaters/liars).
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  • Profile picture of the author Sharon Tidball
    What he did wouldn't stop me watching him as and when he returns. After all we all make mistakes in life.
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  • Profile picture of the author owol
    I don't think you can ever forgive a guy like that!

    On the other hand, I don't understand why anyone cares about his life. He's just a golfer.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarthaDu
    Originally Posted by ceyefly View Post

    Hi,

    I am a fan of Tiger Woods because he's fun to watch playing golf.

    Are there any golf fans on this forum and have any of you decided not to watch him or support him because of this cheating ways?

    Maybe he's rehabilitated ?
    Once a cheater, always a cheater.

    I never really watched him in the first place. I am sure he will come out of this in time. Heck OJ did much worse and came out of it.

    just wait for a media cool down.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
      Originally Posted by MarthaDu View Post

      Once a cheater, always a cheater.

      I never really watched him in the first place. I am sure he will come out of this in time. Heck OJ did much worse and came out of it.

      just wait for a media cool down.
      Oj beat the replacement wife and is currently in prison for armed robbery, thats after losing everything he owned right down to his trophies.
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    He didnt lie and cheat on you
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    • Profile picture of the author Andie
      Originally Posted by Michael Motley View Post

      He didnt lie and cheat on you
      I know (think i mentioned that earlier)
      but Kurt went and got "literal" with his question. Assuming I was the sponsor or wife- he'd be at the curb <shrug>
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        • Profile picture of the author Lance K
          The greatest athletes are rarely the greatest people.

          Anybody whose kid was let down by Tiger Woods' actions is more a product of their parenting than anything else.
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  • Profile picture of the author bardman
    Regular folk like us can never comprehend what it's like to be a demi-god inhabiting a human body. He doesn't have sex addiction. That's absurd. It's just... he's Tiger f**king Woods. The issue probably has more to do with our puritanical society than anything else. Ever heard any scandals about Wayne Gretzky? He's a legendary dog. I think difference is probably that his wife knew what he was getting involved in - and he wasn't as ridiculously careless as Tiger. In short, anybody who actually considers it is within their purview to forgive or not forgive should instead take a long look within.
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    Tiger who?
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
    Now here's something i find interesting, if you watch, and listen, and even in this thread the whites are livid..'my god how could he do that to me!' kind of outrage, blacks..not so much. I would think if any group would be torched..it would be blacks before whites
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    • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
      These quotes posted below are the smartest statements so far, on this stupid subject.

      This should be applied to celebrities, politicians and neighbor joe and jane around the corner.

      Since it does NOTHING to enhance or take away from your life, WHO CARES?

      Those who are in that "not forgiven/not another chance/step down" camp are not honest enough to have to dismiss most EVERYONE, because MOST, even the one's they look up to, have dirt in their closest,...so, should most of the catholic clergy step away, don't hear much of a stink about that, diddling little kids then relocating them, that's MUCH BIGGER, than what Tiger is doing...shows most viewership patrons are as much a cheap whore as the media that present them this worthless garbage.

      ...then you got dirty politicians, dirty 834% pure LEGAL bribes{lobbyist}, dirty lobbyist that get political office on our dime, dirty celebrities, dirty talk show host, dirty corporations, dirty insurance companies, dirty neighbors, dirty organizations, dirty churches/mosques/synagogues, dirty bankers,dirty co-workers, dirty bosses, dirty relatives, wow.

      I would believe the "no forgiveness/step down" campers if they honestly and truley believed and practice with their dollars and time to boycott out of their life ALL the unforgiveness that is deserved.

      Thats just not the case, they are simply "part of the mob", jump in.

      They don't have the integrity or balls to truly dismiss everyone that deserves it, who would they interact with?

      These are the same type folks that says punish and prosecute to the fullest extent of the law, be hard on crime, UNTIL, their relative is in that position, NOW, even with conclusive , hard , indisputable evidence, they still stand IN SUPPORT of their CRIMINAL relative, clogging up the system, their values are no better than anyone else's.

      Since most have blinders on and tunnel vision about how "great" they are as a person, if one was to take the exact self-appointed values these dudes have and apply it and dissect their life with it at close examination, even they don't measure up to their own value's, but they simply would not accept that or see that, even if you show proof that was the case.

      Just shows you the ones who "believe blank blank should be a role model, should not be forgiven and should step down and go away forever" are full of crap, maybe MORE, than the entities they are targeting their righteous judgement, they are like anybody else, with just as much dirt in their closet.

      If you think you are better, you have more of a disease than Tiger.

      Its like a car thief thinking he is somehow has a little more righteousness and is better than the person who commits assault,...ridiculous.

      This " I AM "THE" jury of YOUR peers" act , holier than thou crap is getting very, very old, putrid and festered.

      All saints, please fill out your petition for authorized saint-hood and turn it in to your local chapel.

      Yeah.



      Originally Posted by Michael Motley View Post


      Its not my place or job to forgive him...he didnt do anything to me and as far as im concerned, his marital issues are between him and his wife.

      Originally Posted by pangx623 View Post


      For me, I don't care what he does off the course, I was just studying how he plays golf so I can apply some of his techniques to mine.
      Originally Posted by UFG View Post


      It's his business not ours.
      I sure wouldn't want everyone in the world in my personal life what so ever.
      I think we need to just leave these celebrities alone.
      Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post


      What, or who, some celebrity is doing in their free time doesn't interest me. I've never understood why people got such a jones for knowing every detail about the private lives of actors, models, athletes, etc. Now it's even extending to the people who do make a living acting like some starlet getting drunk at a club is big news.
      Originally Posted by Lance K View Post


      The greatest athletes are rarely the greatest people.

      Anybody whose kid was let down by Tiger Woods' actions is more a product of their parenting than anything else.
      Originally Posted by bardman View Post


      Regular folk like us can never comprehend what it's like to be a demi-god inhabiting a human body. He doesn't have sex addiction. That's absurd. It's just... he's Tiger f**king Woods.
      Originally Posted by bardman View Post


      Ever heard any scandals about Wayne Gretzky? He's a legendary dog. I think difference is probably that his wife knew what he was getting involved in - and he wasn't as ridiculously careless as Tiger.
      Originally Posted by bardman View Post


      In short, anybody who actually considers it is within their purview to forgive or not forgive should instead take a long look within.
      Originally Posted by Paul McQuillan View Post


      I think the problem is we are quick to elevate celebrities
      to a God-like status.
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