US ATMs Hacked, Money Invisibly Skimmed

Exactly, and don't think it's never happened. Probably more than we know with both the donkey party and the elephant party. Bush did it in Ohio. Ya, ya, sounds like a conspiracy theory mumbo jumbo. That's what I thought, too. Until I read an article about the guy who was smart enough to do it admitting they did it (with his help). Funny how nobody really talks about it in the press, right?

I know, this is political and we shouldn't get in to a discussion about politics even on the off topic forum. So I'll stop!

Banks, merchant processors, and credit card companies make massive money for doing nothing but skimming hardworking people's money. For example, 2% or more of every credit card transaction at small businesses goes to the credit card company (maybe some to the shyster who sold whatever pos machine), 7 cents or more for every debit transaction goes to the bank (maybe a cut to lying sales rep) and banks also charge business owners for merely having a business account on top of their myriad of thieving service charges. The word for such behavior is "parasite."

That is *******VERY******* hard to believe! One person I knew at a bank managed the bond cage, and the FBI didn't know he was with a mafia crime syndicate!?!?? HECK, there are SO many HEAVILY dishonest people in finance, that I DOUBT they are checked out. The FBI has my fingerprints on file because I had a series 6, and 26, license, but they apparently never investigated me. Yet I could sell securities. The banks let me in, though NOBODY investigated me. At times, I was LITERALLY SURROUNDED by BEARER BONDS!

By contrast, I had a friend that got a job with JPL. The FBI investigated HIM! I was one of his references, and they probably investigated ME for that! But the FBI agent DID ask a lot of questions from me. They didn't simply call and ask for a reference.

Steve

Well, one of the industries I worked in was the BANKING industry, and there were TWO thefts that my company was involved in. ONE involved CMOS(MORTGAGE based securities), and ONE involved BEARER BONDS! BOTH were eventually caught, but took MONTHS! The bearer bond theft(Theft of value from instruments that are generally NOT tracked), was something that was difficult! The bank was highly secure, there were guards, and everyone was in a bull pen with a managerr that was SUPPOSED to monitor things. The thief was the MANAGER! He ran the bonds through twice, and one payment went to the owner, and one to his orgaization.

And people sometimes laugh at MY tangents. At least MINE make sense or are related, like this one. THAT jerks tangents aren't even true. And showing that someone has constantly tried to steal something makes them a TOP suspect if there is a suspected shortage. To simply say no such shortage has been found is certainly not proof of innocence since most would consider the mere ATTEMPT a crime.

The thefts of banks is usually NOT politically biased, and I doubt ANYONE with half a brain would dispute that.

Steve

You should pay strict attention to your bank statement and reconcile your account each month.

If money is disappearing your totals won't match the bank's and you report it, they will research it. Guess what then their totals won't match either since there is no transaction to explain the debits.

They will refund the money and this will alert them that something suspicious is going on. Unlikely it would just be your account so as the complaints roll in they will take action.

Seems well-researched to me. All the quotes I saw were from outside sources, most of which were verifiable. That said, there is a slant and wording to the article which probably didn't help its case.

OH, ok, I thought you meant something ELSE! 8-)

Go get `em girl (no sarcasm, just support).

YOU re-read, Steve. I was referring to someone else's comment - but yours was rather on the fence, now that I look at it. So....

Yeah there's a lot of crap out there -- there's also a lot of people calling stuff crap without having clue one how to figure out if it is or not. To degrade Brad's site without knowing how to look up court dockets first (NO NOT YOU) was not an indication that the person screaming tin foil has enough intelligence about research to make decisions about what is bogus and what is real for us to bother to listen to. That's why tin foil screamers are so damned frustrating to me. They never get into anything deep enough to know what they are saying -- all it takes is a trigger word and they open their mouths and scream "tin-foil" (aka = conspiracy theory). It's like listening to a blasted air raid siren drill for crap sakes.

For the record -- there ARE conspiracies. Some stuff that was once considered paranoid thought are now well known conspiracies that were dismantled because someone had the courage to tell the truth.

We see scammers all the time online - we see scammers that hook up with other scammers and plan scams to take people's money -- but if you say that a bunch of really rich people would get together and plan something that will make them incredible amounts of money and reap them much power - it's always just a "conspiracy theory" to some people - always. Get real. A. Lincoln made the most true statement I have ever heard in my life........."....you can fool some of the people all of the time.....".

I'm still busy thinking about how I was accused rampantly of wearing a tin foil hat for decades just for making a plain and true simple statement that the FED isn't part of Gov, it's a bank. That one stupid truth took how many decades to surface? And it took so long because instead of listening and researching people were busy with their air raid siren reactions screaming about "tin-foil" instead of looking in to it. How did I know? Because I heard it and did the leg work to find out for sure instead of my mouth flying open and letting out a siren alert.

The tin-foil hat screamers have two questions they ask continually that have no basis in logic or reality -
"If it's such a secret how do THEY know?" -- Um...because people who were doing some behind the scenes checking found out - and that is what they are talking about now so quit the siren and do some research of your own.
"Well, why doesn't anyone know about this then?" Crapping DUH...because there was an attempt to cover it up that leaked and the information is now there for you to KNOW about it....but you're too busy letting out that darned siren to figure it out.
(and Steve, my use of you is general as in "people" not as in YOU).

Yes there is some whacko crap around - alien lizards from space - if it's true I have to munch on those words but I would call that idea paranoid thinking. On the other hand, though, there are people who can actually see things going wrong and are investigating because our news centers are now under corporate control and we have to learn to find the criminals out in other ways. Sometimes it's very hard to do, sometimes it's a matter as in this thread - as easy as going over court dockets.

If you want some really good reading of the "conspiracy theory" king - go find wiki leaks, then try to figure out why there was such a massive attempt to get them offline. Or post something you find there for entertainment to listen to all the tin foil sirens going off.
ROTFLMAO.