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14 years ago

I am sure it is stressful for the kid

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Steven Wagenheim

14 years ago

I didn't realize he made that much per episode, unless that also includes
endorsements and other things.

At 24 episodes a year, that comes out to about $500,000 per episode.

Wow.

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TLTheLiberator

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

I didn't realize he made that much per episode, unless that also includes
endorsements and other things.

At 24 episodes a year, that comes out to about $500,000 per episode.

Wow.

Network is where the big money is.

If you have a show that can get consistent numbers - you're in like Flynn.

But...

Sarah Palin is allegedly going to get 1 mill per episode for a show on TLC - a cable network.

They must expect big numbers.

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seasoned

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

I didn't realize he made that much per episode, unless that also includes
endorsements and other things.

At 24 episodes a year, that comes out to about $500,000 per episode.

Wow.

I heard he makes 250,000 an episode. If he did 48 episodes a year(1 a week), he would make $12Mill a year and STILL have a 4 week vacation!

Frankly, I NEVER saw him act outside of how you might expect him to normally be. It is UNREAL that he gets so much. Then again, ashley and mary kate were not any different, and I think they got MORE.

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14 years ago

Not bad for cracking a few fart jokes

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Kay King

14 years ago

How stressful would it be to know you already have enough money to last for a lifetime? I'll take that stress level.

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alexts

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

How stressful would it be to know you already have enough money to last for a lifetime? I'll take that stress level.

Kay,

I see that you are from US. Did you have to work when you were 6 years old?
Sure he gets paid a lot,probably more then he should but the kid really does not have any childhood.

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seasoned

14 years ago

Originally Posted by alexts

Kay,

I see that you are from US. Did you have to work when you were 6 years old?
Sure he gets paid a lot,probably more then he should but the kid really does not have any childhood.

Give me a break. Quite a bit of the show, and the original concept, revolve around his character, and he is the one that would be the hardest to replace. NOT because he is all that great, but because ***HE*** has taken the part of the guys son. HECK, the mother is probably not seen much, and charlie could end up giving the apartment to his brother, the father could die, and be replaced by the kids mother that got a relationship with the brother.

Anyway, some work! He basically plays HIMSELF! He is REQUIRED to get a decent education, and have limited work hours. People have literally KILLED for less.

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Midas3 Consulting

14 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

and he is the one that would be the hardest to replace. .

Be surprised, people adapt fast to this kind
of thing.

Throw in a similar looking chubby kid with
some half decent timing who knows the
ropes and nobody would give a crap within
5 episodes , presuming the kid can act.

Which would be a step up from the current
kid who looks like he trained at the Derik
Zoolander school of acting.

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seasoned

14 years ago

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

Be surprised, people adapt fast to this kind
of thing.

Throw in a similar looking chubby kid with
some half decent timing who knows the
ropes and nobody would give a crap within
5 episodes , presuming the kid can act.

Which would be a step up from the current
kid who looks like he trained at the Derik
Zoolander school of acting.

Well, it WOULD be easier to replace the others, I think. I'm certainly NO fan of the show. And who says he was taught acting ANYWHERE(YEAH KURT, I KNOW)! He is just playing himself. There is FAR more acting by nearly any character on southpark, even if all parts were played by different people, and though the voiceover guy probably DOES think like that.

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Midas3 Consulting 14 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

Well, it WOULD be easier to replace the others, I think.

Nah, I reckon remove Sheen from it
and it's toast, remove the kid from it
and it's just a different fat kid.

Not that I give a flying rat's ass
as it's average tv in my book.

Amazed, that's no#1 in the ratings.
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Josh MacDonald 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

How stressful would it be to know you already have enough money to last for a lifetime? I'll take that stress level.

How long has he been doing it for?
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- Steven Wagenheim 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by macdonjo
  
  How long has he been doing it for?
  
  He's been on Two And A Half Men since 2003, when he was 9. He's now 16.
  
  So he's been doing it for 7 years.
  
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  seasoned 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim
  
  He's been on Two And A Half Men since 2003, when he was 9. He's now 16.
  
  So he's been doing it for 7 years.
  
  Although he probably made less, he WAS in movies and I believe commercials ALSO!
  
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  Originally Posted by macdonjo
  
  How long has he been doing it for?
  
  He has been in 2.5 men since 2003
  
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- seasoned 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by macdonjo
  
  How long has he been doing it for?
  
  YEARS!!!!! But I would be happy if I did that for even ONE show! I could live off of 8 EASY! He has done MANY times that! And I can NOT see his career being viable for say another 10 years SO, by the time he can really access the money, reality will probably set in. He might be one of the few to retire a multimillionare!
  
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chuawenching

14 years ago

wow that is a lot of money, probably the parents benefit it

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CDarklock

14 years ago

Consider that Two and a Half Men is a shockingly offensive concept for a show that I absolutely detest... but that I am simply unable to stop thinking it is hysterical, well-written, superbly acted, and exquisitely cast.

And that I am not the only person who thinks this. I have four personal friends who are flat-out disgusted with themselves - more or less the same way I am - that they actually think this show is good. They would really like to hate it... but they just can't.

The last time I had this problem, it was with Snoop Dogg. Detest the man. Hate everything he stands for. Would really like to see him taken down a peg. Removed from the peg-board altogether, really.

But he's just so damn talented. I mean hell, I can at least be reasonably indifferent to Cypress Hill, but Snoop Dogg? The man is an amazing artist.

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Steven Wagenheim

14 years ago

Originally Posted by CDarklock

Consider that Two and a Half Men is a shockingly offensive concept for a show that I absolutely detest... but that I am simply unable to stop thinking it is hysterical, well-written, superbly acted, and exquisitely cast.

And that I am not the only person who thinks this. I have four personal friends who are flat-out disgusted with themselves - more or less the same way I am - that they actually think this show is good. They would really like to hate it... but they just can't.

The last time I had this problem, it was with Snoop Dogg. Detest the man. Hate everything he stands for. Would really like to see him taken down a peg. Removed from the peg-board altogether, really.

But he's just so damn talented. I mean hell, I can at least be reasonably indifferent to Cypress Hill, but Snoop Dogg? The man is an amazing artist.

The last episode of Two And A Half Men was hysterical...and just when I
thought that maybe the show was running out of funny.

You're right. This show is everything that a decent human being should
be against.

Still, my wife and I watch it whenever it's on.

Go figure. :confused:

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Kurt

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

The last episode of Two And A Half Men was hysterical...and just when I
thought that maybe the show was running out of funny.

You're right. This show is everything that a decent human being should
be against.

Still, my wife and I watch it whenever it's on.

Go figure. :confused:

We watch because it's funny.

To be honest, that show is as fast-paced with the punchlines as any.

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14 years ago

Great show. Watch it everyday.
Modern Family is a great new show too

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Kurt

14 years ago

The kid's got a great name: Agnus T. Jones. And Charlie Sheen is pretty much playing himself (and making a joke out of it), and I think he's the highest paid TV actor right now.

IMO, the "star" that's really over-paid is Judge Judy at $45 million a year. Can't stand that woman, she has contempt for everyone that stands in front of her. Even Judge Wopner doesn't like her.

#40 Judge Judy Sheindlin - Forbes.com

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TLTheLiberator

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

The kid's got a great name: Agnus T. Jones. And Charlie Sheen is pretty much playing himself (and making a joke out of it), and I think he's the highest paid TV actor right now.

IMO, the "star" that's really over-paid is Judge Judy at $45 million a year. Can't stand that woman, she has contempt for everyone that stands in front of her. Even Judge Wopner doesn't like her.

#40 Judge Judy Sheindlin - Forbes.com

I can't stand Judge Judy either but...

I'm not sure if the show is owned/exclusive by/to a network or syndicated but you don't get paid unless you're bringing in the numbers for the advertisers and they have proof.

Then you get paid.

Movie stars can be overpaid if they don't bring in the cash compared to what they're being paid for a movie.

3 or 4 movie busts in a row and the movie companies are not going to continue paying someone a rate that doesn't jive with their star power.

Now it's 5 million instead of 15-20 million.

But for the most part TV stars do not get overpaid.

See what happened to Oprah??

She kept demanding a bigger and bigger piece of the pie and the stations were asked to pay more and more to have the show.

Then the stations asked the advertisers to pay more and more - and they paid it.

Everybody plays ball cause without a golden goose, no one gets anything.

Judge Judy must be bringing in the numbers.

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Kurt 14 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Judge Judy must be bringing in the numbers.

TL

Yep. The question is "why?".

I guess being mean and bitchy is popular.
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- TLTheLiberator 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Kurt
  
  Yep. The question is "why?".
  
  I guess being mean and bitchy is popular.
  
  I agree.
  
  She's mean at times when there's no need to be mean.
  
  I don't like her attitude.
  
  She treats everyone as if they're peasants and she's a baroness or duchess and like they are a big bother to her.
  
  This is a case of not so nice guys finishing first.
  
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- Dave Patterson 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Kurt
  
  Yep. The question is "why?".
  
  I guess being mean and bitchy is popular.
  
  A nephew of mines wife has a saying on her facebook...."Be the kind of woman who, as soon as her feet hit the floor in the morning the devil screams OH NO...THE BITCH IS AWAKE!"
  
  That's Judge Judy.
  
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ZXT

14 years ago

Lucky kid. When I was a teenager, all I can earn is something like $100/month

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Matt-Marketing

14 years ago

Ha he make me smile
everytime i see him!

Why is it that chubby people are
funnier that thin people look at
ricky gervais?

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Midas3 Consulting

14 years ago

Really $500k per episode ?

2.5 Men's amusing, but horribly predictable.

The kids "average", if they threw another
kid in to replace him, I doubt I would give
a jot within the space of a few episodes.

Is the kid still fat?

Wonder if there was any pressure on him
to continue to be so for the part.

Somebody mentioned Modern Family,
now that's good tv.

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Kecia

14 years ago

According to the New York Post, he's making $250,000/episode...so he must be doing 4 episodes a month. Followed by Miranda Cosgrove, who makes $180,000/episode for iCarly. Disney must not pay their actors as much, those in the top 10 highest paid kid actors whose shows are on the Disney Channel only make $15,000-$20,000/episode (Miley Cyrus, for example, makes $15,000/episode for Hannah Montana).

This Agnus kid is just way overpaid. Sure, Two and a Half Men may be funny, but it's not the greatest show ever...

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Kurt

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Kecia08

According to the New York Post, he's making $250,000/episode...so he must be doing 4 episodes a month. Followed by Miranda Cosgrove, who makes $180,000/episode for iCarly. Disney must not pay their actors as much, those in the top 10 highest paid kid actors whose shows are on the Disney Channel only make $15,000-$20,000/episode (Miley Cyrus, for example, makes $15,000/episode for Hannah Montana).

This Agnus kid is just way overpaid. Sure, Two and a Half Men may be funny, but it's not the greatest show ever...

He isn't paid that much because he's the best actor ever or the show is the greatest ever, he's paid that much because the show is #1 in the ratings and makes more money than any other show. Which is why Angus is the highest paid kid actor and Charlie Sheen is the highest paid actor on TV.

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14 years ago

Million dollar per month she is amazing. The kid very lucky.

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Steven Wagenheim 14 years ago

Actually, remove any of those 3 and the show is toast.

What people don't seem to realize is that the 3 of them play off each other
and THAT is why this show works so well. You can have a scene between
Charlie and Alan, Charlie and the kid, Alan and the kid, or all 3 of them and
it'll be a hoot.

And if you want to really get down to it, it's the writing that makes that
show what it is...not that the actors don't deliver those lines flawlessly.
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valdivz

14 years ago

kind of makes me upset really....

think about how hard people really work in other professions, some people work 8 hour jobs making peanuts and yet all these people do is act, having fun and play off each other's emotions and they make millions..!

does anyone else feel the same way?

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seasoned 14 years ago

OK, what happened to my thankyou button? valdivz, I AGREE!!!!! The one thing that I really hate WORSE is how they throw around money like it is WATER, belittle others for not doing that, bring up spoiled brats, and THEN say that OTHERS should pay more in taxes, etc....

And some actors and actresses are FAR better and never really succeed, and some IDIOTS LUCK into parts making them a houshold name. GIVE ME A BREAK!

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Lawrh

14 years ago

Originally Posted by valdivz

kind of makes me upset really....

think about how hard people really work in other professions, some people work 8 hour jobs making peanuts and yet all these people do is act, having fun and play off each other's emotions and they make millions..!

does anyone else feel the same way?

No. Not in the least. These people generate revenue, lots of revenue. Do you believe the suits should get it all? Actors, athletes and other entertainers are responsible for billions of dollars and many thousands of jobs.

It's simply a matter of scale. People who make "average" income can't relate to or comprehend so called huge salaries. The money these people make is actually only a small percentage of the money they bring in to the companies they work for.

Consider Johnny Depp. I read somewhere he will be making about 35 million dollars for the next Pirates of the Caribbean movie. Big deal. The movie will probably make at least half a billion globally.

When those 8 hour/day droids become responsible for huge revenue they can demand more pay.

Last note, to imply that these superstars have it easy is disingenuous. There will always be divas, but the commitment to major projects is very high and sixteen hours days are common.

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seasoned

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Lawrh

No. Not in the least. These people generate revenue, lots of revenue. Do you believe the suits should get it all? Actors, athletes and other entertainers are responsible for billions of dollars and many thousands of jobs.

You are operating off a FALSE PREMISE! The costs are HIGHER, BECAUSE OF THEM, and commercials are priced accordingly. If THEY were getting paid less, the commercials could cost less which means OTHERS could be paid MORE and/or costs could be LOWER! The purchasers of the products from sponsors of 2 and half men may have to pay a few pennies more on each purchase JUST to support 2 and half men. Some workers may fail to get a raiise JUST because of them.

It's simply a matter of scale. People who make "average" income can't relate to or comprehend so called huge salaries. The money these people make is actually only a small percentage of the money they bring in to the companies they work for.

Actually, what you say is certainly true of the "stars". Look at 2 and a half men! THREE main actors. There are FAR more people than that in even the immediate stage area. There are lots of people elsewhere. People have ALREADY mentioned the writers! HECK, one of the lowest paid people may be responsible for it being picked up by a major network and making the money to pay them. Your whole premise is just WRONG.

Consider Johnny Depp. I read somewhere he will be making about 35 million dollars for the next Pirates of the Caribbean movie. Big deal. The movie will probably make at least half a billion globally.

USUALLY people count box office receipts. Only a SMALL amount of that goes for the film(don't forget all the MILLIONS that show it, etc...) And do you REALLY think Johnny Depp is the ONLY one that is paid in the film? Have you ever looked at the ending credits? I mean ALL of them! INCLUDING those that AREN'T stars! You can probably add a few hundred MORE to that list. So YEAH, 7% IS a big deal! Frankly, I NEVER watched any of these movies through, but he didn't seem to add much!

When those 8 hour/day droids become responsible for huge revenue they can demand more pay.

Last note, to imply that these superstars have it easy is disingenuous. There will always be divas, but the commitment to major projects is very high and sixteen hours days are common.

I take it you're a SAG member in some way, or related to same!

Steve

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Lawrh

14 years ago

Steve,

The costs of actors are part of the budget and has no effect on the cost of commercials. In fact, commercials are NOT priced, they are bid on. The sweeps week ratings come out and the advertisers start bidding. The popularity of a show determines how high the bids go. The owners of the show have no say. It's the number of eyeballs watching and the demographics that drive the price up or down. Good numbers, lots of money. Bad numbers, the show is canceled.

Regarding box office receipts, for the first several weeks the studios get almost every dime. The theaters get almost nothing from those big opening weekends. That's why popcorn costs so much. So far as crew salaries are concerned, that's determined by their unions and is also a part of the budget. The stars pay has zero effect on what anyone else makes.

SAG? Nope, I've never belonged to any union. I just refuse to allow myself to judge an entire multi-billion dollar industry by the actions of idiot divas and publicity whores. There is much more to the entertainment industry than what you see in the media. Including many hard working, highly regarded and well paid actors.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Lawrh

Steve,

The costs of actors are part of the budget and has no effect on the cost of commercials. In fact, commercials are NOT priced, they are bid on. The sweeps week ratings come out and the advertisers start bidding. The popularity of a show determines how high the bids go. The owners of the show have no say. It's the number of eyeballs watching and the demographics that drive the price up or down. Good numbers, lots of money. Bad numbers, the show is canceled.

I never said the owners of the copyright(owner of show is NEBULOUS, and foolish in THIS case) had any say! The CURRENT owners of the show for this purpose(Those that LICENSED the copyright for THIS USE) HAVE to charge based on the COST! If they DON'T, they will go BANKRUPT!

You think the price is STATIC based SOLELY on ratings? And they have said how much ads go for in a particular case. ALAS, though I DID work on a spot selection/registration system, it ddin't handle prices, and I was never that interested. In OTHER media, the price is based on cost, aand placement. In a magazine, for example, the cover has a given cost, placement on special paper or with an insert has a given cost, etc....

Regarding box office receipts, for the first several weeks the studios get almost every dime. The theaters get almost nothing from those big opening weekends. That's why popcorn costs so much. So far as crew salaries are concerned, that's determined by their unions and is also a part of the budget. The stars pay has zero effect on what anyone else makes.

Well, even if that were 100% true, a lower cost means that more money can be used by the theater sooner. And UNIONS can't get more than the income unless they drive the company into bankruptcy, like the airlines, auto companies, or greece(YES KURT, I KNOW, it is a COUNTRY).

SAG? Nope, I've never belonged to any union. I just refuse to allow myself to judge an entire multi-billion dollar industry by the actions of idiot divas and publicity whores. There is much more to the entertainment industry than what you see in the media. Including many hard working, highly regarded and well paid actors.

Yeah, the pirates on the carribean, for example, has MANY more than just Johnny depp. If ALL got paid like he did, 7%, only about 14 people could be paid. GRANTED most are menial jobs, and I am certainly NOT advocating they should all get MILLIONS, but several are every bit as deserving as depp, and there are a LOT more than 14 people involved on the film.

BTW you claim they are worth SO much, etc.... Then WHY does SAG even exist!?!?!? You can't have it both ways. HECK, their "managers" don't get paid that little either! WHY?

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Lawrh 14 years ago

No Steve, they HOPE to meet their costs. The ratings determine what the advertisers are willing to BID. If the bids don't meet the costs, the show is canceled.

Lower costs will have no effect on what theater owners get. The studios get up to 99% of box office receipts the first few weeks. That will never change. Running a movie theater is a tough business.

Hollywood is possibly the most unionized industry in the United States. Crews salaries are non negotiable and a fixed part of the budget. The movie or show simply won't be made if union salaries cannot be met.

In Pirates, Depp was/is the draw. He carried the films, especially the first one. All other salaries are determined and enforced by unions.

SAG exists to protect all of the actors who cannot command high pay. The stars may belong to SAG, but do not depend on it. All the other actors pay has to meet SAG guidelines.
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Hesaidblissfully

14 years ago

Originally Posted by valdivz

kind of makes me upset really....

think about how hard people really work in other professions, some people work 8 hour jobs making peanuts and yet all these people do is act, having fun and play off each other's emotions and they make millions..!

does anyone else feel the same way?

Not really.

You could make the same argument that it's not fair that some people make $80,000 per year just for sitting in a comfy air conditioned office and pointing and clicking a mouse around while another person works their butt off doing hard physical labor for a fraction of that.

Or that some people get to work from home on their computers while other people have to get up early in the morning and commute to the office.

You have to remember that the entertainment industry isn't primarily about skill or who works the hardest or who "deserves" what, it's about business and marketing and branding and leverage. The entertainment industry is a collection of businesses and they reward people based on the perceived profitability to them, and high paid actors and actresses are the ones who have the leverage to demand higher pay because they (and their agents and managers) know that their starring in a movie can mean the difference between the movie being a commercial success or a flop.

From a purely business perspective, TV and movie companies care more about getting eyeballs pointed at a TV screen or butts in movie theater seats than they do about talent or hard work. Talent is only relevant to the extent that it positively influences the bottom line. Not saying that's how things SHOULD be, but that's how they often are.

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seasoned

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Hesaidblissfully

From a purely business perspective, TV and movie companies care more about getting eyeballs pointed at a TV screen or butts in movie theater seats than they do about talent or hard work. Talent is only relevant to the extent that it positively influences the bottom line. Not saying that's how things SHOULD be, but that's how they often are.

You've said it. SOME had these altrustic ideas about TV being a great medium to teach and spread USEFUL information. If they saw how it ended up, I don't know if they would be laughing(Thinking YOU IDIOTS!!!!!) or crying(Thinking THOSE POOR LOST SOULS!). It is SICK!

We could be having classes like some of the older college course programs on, some of the newer ones are JUNK also and don't count, or RELEVANT news. The movies could be decent and entertaining.

What do we have? south park, family guy, 2 and half men, QVC, propaganda, F-bombs, etc.... Granted, some of the college access classes are still on but still.

And WHO thought up QVC!?!?!? The idea that someone would watch a channel almost totally devoid of any entertaining or relevant content and MAYBE buy something seems IDIOTIC! GRANTED it must work to a degree, but who would dare suspect it would?

But yeah, they don't really work to put anything on TV. They just charge for it, or only care if they can get people to watch commercials. Frankly, I am mostly down to watching like one channel, that didn't even exist when I was a kid. If they got rid of that, I would find it very easy to just say FORGET THE WHOLE THING! And NO LB, the channel is NOT fox news.

Oh yeah, and as for paying for films. Sometimes they are SPONSORED in such an OBVIOUS way that it is unreal. Like evolution, for example. They needed a special chemical to solve the problem. But HOW could they get it? They ended up using "HEAD AND SHOULDERS" SHAMPOO!!!!!! And now they have areas they don't even bother trying to really provide air signals to, so cable and sattelite now provide packages with practically just THOSE signals!

People Keep crying like there is no money, etc... It has all simply been misappropriated. Look at school textbooks. WHY do ones that haven't had a need to change for years, or even millenia, change every year? I took an ACCOUNTING class(Based on principles that are about 200 years old by the way) that got "NEW textbooks". They were EXACTLY the same as the previous years textbooks, RIGHT DOWN TO THE WORDING AND ILLUSTRATIONS, but the order was different. Since half the class had the previous textbooks(used), it drove everyone NUTS! Talk about a WASTE!

Steve

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Sleaklight

14 years ago

Why couldn't I be making that money at his age?

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Steven Wagenheim

14 years ago

I come from an entertainment family. My great uncle was Charlie
Wagenheim (look him up at IMDB) and Jerry Orbach was a distant relative
on my father's side.

I can tell you first hand that these people work very hard. Most 9 to 5 Joes
couldn't come close to hacking their insane work schedules...not to mention
how many lines they have to remember in a ridiculously short time.

And daytime TV actors have it the worst. They literally have hours to
memorize their lines.

Some of the stuff these people have to do, physically, is nuts.

I wouldn't want to be an actor for all the tea in China.

Contrary to popular belief, it is NOT a cakewalk.

Combine that with the insane amounts of money they bring into the
industry, and that's why they make the kind of money they do.

IMO, they're worth every penny.

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seasoned

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

I come from an entertainment family. My great uncle was Charlie
Wagenheim (look him up at IMDB) and Jerry Orbach was a distant relative
on my father's side.

I can tell you first hand that these people work very hard. Most 9 to 5 Joes
couldn't come close to hacking their insane work schedules...not to mention
how many lines they have to remember in a ridiculously short time.

And daytime TV actors have it the worst. They literally have hours to
memorize their lines.

Some of the stuff these people have to do, physically, is nuts.

I wouldn't want to be an actor for all the tea in China.

Contrary to popular belief, it is NOT a cakewalk.

Combine that with the insane amounts of money they bring into the
industry, and that's why they make the kind of money they do.

IMO, they're worth every penny.

Well, I have sometimes had to work DAYS, with LITTLE SLEEP, at the LAST MINUTE because someone typed a sttament wrong, etc... The idea that THEY are the only ones working outside of 9-5 is a myth. And they probably get paid BETTER for the periods outside of that.

Gee, there was a time when a word processor. A WORD PROCESSOR cost over $400. And NO, I do NOT mean microsoft office! I mean microsoft WORD! So are you guys saying the prices should have stayed high, and programmers simply should have gotten really nice salaries!?!?!? WOW, maybe you should suggest that to someone!

In my old company, I tried to price databases. The CHEAPEST one I found was like $8000 plus $250 a seat! YEP, even the CLIENT had a price!

And look at computers! Like $5000+ for a PC!?!?!? Don't tell me it was tecnology, etc... because they quickly started making knockoffs for about $1500. My first PC cost $1200. If my father bought it when he should have(I got it as a birthday present), it would have been about $750, BEFORE he finally bought it. And I am comparing LIKE FOR LIKE! Same product(though in softwares case different versions), from the SAME place!

As for remembering lines, apparently THAT isn't really that true either. Just look at bloopers... Even soome of the BIGGEST stars seem inept at times. And THEY only show SOME of the outtakes. And, again, sometimes I am expected to remember a LOT of stuff and some of IT doesn't necessarily follow logically, though a lot of scripts do.

Heck, Some actors are even hired BECAUSE they slip up and things they do to cover end up adding a kind of flavor to the whole thing. Look at the last part on liar/liar for example. Although it can be a bit raunchy and stupid, that could be a short in itself.

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Steven Wagenheim

14 years ago

Steve, it all comes down to supply and demand.

My wife works very hard as a teacher but there are plenty of people who
can take her place, so she's lucky to make what she does. Plus, her job
doesn't bring in tons of revenue to anybody. Hell, she's about as non profit
as you can get.

The entertainment industry is huge because WE made it huge. We practically
live our lives around it with all the movies we go to see, all the TV we
watch, all the CDs and DVDs we buy, all the baseball games we go to and
on and on.

These people make this kind of money because they are in demand. We
want to see Johnny Depp or whoever in whatever movie it is. We don't
want to see my wife teach 12th grade math.

As long as the demand for us to be entertained is that great, these
people are going to demand the kind of money that they make.

Personally, I think theater prices nowadays are insane ($12 for a movie)
but if we want to see our favorite actor in a movie that we've been dying
to see, we pay it. Fortunately for me, there are few movies I really want
to see. But the ones I do, I pay the price or don't see it.

When the world stops caring about being entertained, because their lives
are no longer so empty without it, then these people will stop making the
kind of money they do.

But that's never going to happen because let's face it, if all most of us
did each day was wake up, eat, work and sleep, we'd be pretty miserable.

Even I look forward to my entertainment and I probably contribute to
this problem less than most. I can count on one hand the movies I've gone
to see in the last 5 years.

But TV...I watch a lot of it. It helps get me through the day when I'm
not doing this or in my recording studio.

Shows I watch

24
2 1/2 Men
Big Bang Theory
Lost
Glee
Criminal Minds
Smallville
Law & Order
Desperate Housewives
Doctor Who

Daytime

All My Children
One Life To Live

And the above is NOTHING next to what some people watch.

Who is going to pay money to watch my wife teach or some guy dig a
ditch.

Want salaries in the entertainment industry to go down?

Turn off your TV
Stop going to the movies
Stop going to ball games
Stop going to plays
Stop buying CDs and DVDs

Or...deal with what it is.

Because unless WE change...the industry will NOT change.

THAT...you can take to the bank.

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TLTheLiberator

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Steve, it all comes down to supply and demand.

My wife works very hard as a teacher but there are plenty of people who
can take her place, so she's lucky to make what she does. Plus, her job
doesn't bring in tons of revenue to anybody. Hell, she's about as non profit
as you can get.

The entertainment industry is huge because WE made it huge. We practically
live our lives around it with all the movies we go to see, all the TV we
watch, all the CDs and DVDs we buy, all the baseball games we go to and
on and on.

These people make this kind of money because they are in demand. We
want to see Johnny Depp or whoever in whatever movie it is. We don't
want to see my wife teach 12th grade math.

As long as the demand for us to be entertained is that great, these
people are going to demand the kind of money that they make.

Personally, I think theater prices nowadays are insane ($12 for a movie)
but if we want to see our favorite actor in a movie that we've been dying
to see, we pay it. Fortunately for me, there are few movies I really want
to see. But the ones I do, I pay the price or don't see it.

When the world stops caring about being entertained, because their lives
are no longer so empty without it, then these people will stop making the
kind of money they do.

But that's never going to happen because let's face it, if all most of us
did each day was wake up, eat, work and sleep, we'd be pretty miserable.

Even I look forward to my entertainment and I probably contribute to
this problem less than most. I can count on one hand the movies I've gone
to see in the last 5 years.

But TV...I watch a lot of it. It helps get me through the day when I'm
not doing this or in my recording studio.

Shows I watch

24
2 1/2 Men
Big Bang Theory
Lost
Glee
Criminal Minds
Smallville
Law & Order
Desperate Housewives
Doctor Who

Daytime

All My Children
One Life To Live

And the above is NOTHING next to what some people watch.

Who is going to pay money to watch my wife teach or some guy dig a
ditch.

Want salaries in the entertainment industry to go down?

Turn off your TV
Stop going to the movies
Stop going to ball games
Stop going to plays
Stop buying CDs and DVDs

Or...deal with what it is.

Because unless WE change...the industry will NOT change.

THAT...you can take to the bank.

You're right!!

The marketplace rules.

I'm not going to pay to have the __________ scared out of me but enough people will - so IMHO stupid/horror/gory movies are made.

IMHO there are plenty of simply stupid movies being made all the time.

The plots are ridiculous etc. but they are being made.

With theaters, cable, on demand, regular TV, dvds, and world wide distribution there are so many outlets for any movie that is made.

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seasoned 14 years ago

Steven,

Out of the shows you mentioned:

I don't watch soap operas.

I have seen most of the others you mentioned but only watch:

Smallville
Law & Order
Doctor Who

Doctor Who is odd, and I guess I just watch it because I am curious. 8-(

I also watch:
The SG1 franchise(the original movie, SG1, SG atlantis, SG UNIVERSE, etc...)
columbo franchise.
Monk
Chronicles of riddick
the pacifier
The terminator franchise
Some of the startrek franchise
Some of the startrek concept spinoff franchises, like EFC, ANDROMEDA
Hercules
V(ESPECIALLY relevant TODAY! I could say more, but many HAVE noticed what I did ALREADY!!)
ATEAM
farscape, etc...
Similar genres. MOST things I like are REASONABLE whodunits(Elery queen is sometimes WAY to out there, and matlock and banachek are FAR too predictable), REASONABLE or interesting fantasy hero films/series, MOSTLY scifi type things. The closer scifi gets to scifantasy, usually the less I like it. hitch-hikers guide to the galaxy, for example, was FUNNY, and thought provoking in SOME ways, but WAY too far in fantasy for me to like it. One movie was enough thanks!
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Dana Forsythe

14 years ago

Congrads to the kid :-) Good for him

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Kurt

14 years ago

The kid is worth it because that's what he gets. That's the way it works in a free market system.

Lebron James is a free agent in basketball. He'll get a contract for about $20 million per year, which is the league maximum.

Sound like too much? Lebron James has doubled the Cavilier's attendence. It's estimated that he alone doubled the value of the franchise, meaning he's worth about $250 MILLION dollars to the team in the form of attendance, TV ratings, merchandise sales, etc.

You don't think that's a good investment for $20 million a year?

Same for Johnny Depp. He IS Prirates of the Carrabean. I bet a Priates movie without Depp would make $100-300 million LESS than one with him.

Stars make so much money because they make other people so much money. Tons of it.

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Steven Wagenheim

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

The kid is worth it because that's what he gets. That's the way it works in a free market system.

Lebron James is a free agent in basketball. He'll get a contract for about $20 million per year, which is the league maximum.

Sound like too much? Lebron James has doubled the Cavilier's attendence. It's estimated that he alone doubled the value of the franchise, meaning he's worth about $250 MILLION dollars to the team in the form of attendance, TV ratings, merchandise sales, etc.

You don't think that's a good investment for $20 million a year?

Same for Johnny Depp. He IS Prirates of the Carrabean. I bet a Priates movie without Depp would make $100-300 million LESS than one with him.

Stars make so much money because they make other people so much money. Tons of it.

Thanks Kurt...Good to see some of us get it.

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Enetwork

14 years ago

Sound good.

But behind the 1 million $ there is lots of afford, stress. When he weak up I also have stress with the dream.

This is definitely not good for him. He is becoming unsocial.

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