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Question About Old English Custom...

by TLTheLiberator
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I was watching The Tudors last season and the King & Queen were being served at dinner by Lord Buckingham who also happened to have more money than the king himself.


He came from a old noble family and even believed he had a clam to the throne.

Anyways...

Buckingham gets full of himself and plots a coup but it fails and he's beheaded etc.

I can see him hanging out at court but why on earth was he serving the king and queen???

Can one of you Brits explain???


TL
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Heck, I've heard that the queen of Denmark is a real nice lady(in the sense of the REAL meaning of the term from when *I* was a kid), and acts like a normal woman!

    Margrethe II of Denmark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    And her great great grandmother was ALSO queen victoria of the UK!

    My impression has mostly been similar to what JonMills said. It is mostly ceremonial, traditional, and an item to draw tourists.

    Anyway, royalty has NEVER truly been about money. Some royal family members are POOR! And even some of the richest normal people might want to befriend some of the poorest monarchs.

    And money won't buy the monarchy.

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      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      and acts like a normal woman!
      Steve....could you maybe clarify this a bit?
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  • Profile picture of the author Pauline60
    Do you mean that Lord Buckingham was actually serving the meal? - that seems rather odd....servants would normally serve. Members of the aristocracy would be at the table but would not serve the food.

    I would have to ask my partner about this - he is a bit of an expert on the Monarchy etc whereas I am a bit lacking in my knowledge.
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by Pauline60 View Post

      Do you mean that Lord Buckingham was actually serving the meal? - that seems rather odd....servants would normally serve. Members of the aristocracy would be at the table but would not serve the food.

      I would have to ask my partner about this - he is a bit of an expert on the Monarchy etc whereas I am a bit lacking in my knowledge.


      Yes he was pouring the wine and was the richest man in England and a noble but he was serving at the king's table and he had quarters in the palace.

      Please ask your partner.

      I find this custom most interesting.

      In recent episodes a noble named Sury performed the same function.


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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

    I can see him hanging out at court but why on earth was he serving the king and queen???
    You need to understand the basis of monarchic cultures.

    He only had the money he had because they allowed him to have it.

    Technically, as their servant in their land, he was just holding onto their money. It was only by their grace and good breeding that they didn't demand he give it back.
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      You need to understand the basis of monarchic cultures.

      He only had the money he had because they allowed him to have it.

      Technically, as their servant in their land, he was just holding onto their money. It was only by their grace and good breeding that they didn't demand he give it back.
      CD, something else was going on there.


      Lord Buckingham was from a family that almost ascended to the throne - instead of Henry's.

      They were of the noble class - just like Henry the 8th.

      His grandfather was a contemporary of Henry the 5th and he was about the same age as Henry the 8th.

      Buck claimed that Henry the 5th stole the crown on the field of battle from buck's ancestor.

      Buck had money and felt he had just as much claim to the throne as Henry.

      As a matter of fact he was richer than Henry the 8th.

      The king could not demand the Buck give anything back because the money was Buck's.

      In recent episodes a super-arrogant noble named Surey performed the same function of serving at the king's table.

      What goes on??

      Can someone explain??

      TL
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