Smoking will Kill you....But.... I am Not a Quitter

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I have a dilema......

I know that smoking will kill you, but my own beliefs in life and work are holding me back from stopping.

I am not a quitter!!!

Once I get into something I keep at it and never give up. I do not quit!

So what is a person to do? If I quit smoking then I am a quitter.

Golly Gee whiz...

Sean
  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    You're in a real mess with no way out.

    You can quit smoking or eventually quit being healthy - it's a no win situation for someone who never quits.:rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      All smokers quit smoking, no exceptions.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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        Just take a break from it for about 20 years and promise yourself you will get back to it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      You're in a real mess with no way out.

      You can quit smoking or eventually quit being healthy - it's a no win situation for someone who never quits.:rolleyes:

      Lol...see, that's what im talkin about!

      Seriously though. It is difficult. But at some point reality should kinda slap you in the face with this kind of stuff!!!
      That;s why I am going to set a date and quit.....
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Ellis
    All joking aside... once you experience a family member with lung cancer, you'll quite. It's a real eye opening, horrible disease.
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    • Profile picture of the author dsimms
      Originally Posted by Michael Ellis View Post

      All joking aside... once you experience a family member with lung cancer, you'll quite. It's a real eye opening, horrible disease.
      You are giving false advice...

      my mom died of brain cancer, and she never
      once picked up a cig...all I can say is cig
      are more powerful then you think...I have
      always had luck taking chantix...but i do
      not, and it still sits on my shelf

      so sitting back and just saying watch someone
      die because of cancer just does not work that well.

      ask the relatives that have died of cancer, and ask
      how many children still smoke after seeing their
      parent die of cancer, youll be surprised how
      powerful smoking really is...
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  • Profile picture of the author tukang
    I am sometimes so happy that I am not a smoker.
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  • Profile picture of the author cj9253
    I haven't smoked in over 2yrs. I thought the same way about being a quitter but, somethings are better to quit than to keep doing.

    If you have made a bad investments with a company I'd bet you would quit any further investments with them. So what's the difference?
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    When you quit breathing on your own maybe then you will quit smoking.

    When you quit living you will know you shoulda quit smoking instead.

    I am a smoker, I can't quit even though I hate it. It's not because I am not a quitter, however. It's because I am addicted.

    My late, ex-father in law even smoked with emphysema. They had to remove the oxygen machine out of his room when he did, so he didn't blow up the house.

    Now that's a commitment.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      If you are going to keep smoking (such as I have) you better make sure you are getting what you need to offset cancer. If your mother and father drank fluoridated water you are predisposed to it. Get the fluoride out of your diet, as in yesterday. Avoid ready to drink juices, lighten up on tea and never drink pre-mixed or instant. Don't eat anything with mechanically boned chicken, processed cereals are a danger, wash fruits and vegies to get the fluoride pesticides off of them before you eat them.

      Aerobic exercise better be part of your daily plan to keep that shit circulating out of your system and out of your lungs.

      Eating extreme cancer killers is more important than ever. Cucuriem and elligic acid (turmeric and raspberries and blackberries) tomatoes, OJ (not pre mixed - use your own non-fluoridated water.

      If it were just the tobacco, all smokers would die - but if you don't take the other necessary precautions you are really tossing a coin when you light up.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        I am a smoker, I can't quit even though I hate it. It's not because I am not a quitter, however. It's because I am addicted.
        Pat - I think one of the most damaging myths promoted is that smoking is so addictive that some just can't quit. Truth is, the nicotine is out of your system (a blood test won't show it) within 72 hrs of quitting. It's the mental part of this addiction that people have a problem with as they have believed the myth that smoking cures some immediate problems...

        You quit when you finally figure out that every reason you use for smoking:

        I'm stressed, need to relax, bored, excited, driving, just had dinner, etc, etc

        are not real reasons. It is the last cigarette you had telling you that you need another one. Smoking gives you nothing except the need to keep smoking. There is no high, no calming effect, nothing at all except more nicotine to feed a habit.

        (It took me a LONG time to figure that out)

        Sal,
        I agree there are many things we can do to improve our health and prevent disease - but if you think doing those things will protect you from problems associated with smoking, you're smoking more than cigs:p

        I'm not a rabid anti-smoker. I quit for years - started back for a year and quit again. I respect others decisions on whether they smoke or not but know few smokers who don't justify why they do it. Why not just say "I like it and I don't care". Nothing wrong with that.

        My reason for quitting was simply realizing that I was contradicting my own life. I eat healthy, exercise, care about the air quality of the planet and ....I was smoking like a chimney for many years. It didn't make sense.

        It was hard to quit - and much harder the second time. But to my surprise I lost the smoker's cough in less than a week, bad breath was in the past, more energy and the biggie was that my allergies disappeared totally.

        Six months later I was "Well, duh, what took me so long". (What took me so long was hating anti-smokers telling me what I should and shouldn't do).

        If you want to quit - you can do it. If you don't want to, don't worry about it.

        kay
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  • Profile picture of the author John M Kane
    So, Sean, you are saying you could quit if you decided to?
    Not me but, I read somewhere, that smoking is an intense phallic symbol that satisfies an oral fixation.
    Boy would that be hard!
    I mean just imagine if every time you grab the pack of cigarettes and slide it out and grab hold of one of those long white phallic symbol cigarettes into your hand and put your lips on the filter,what kind of male organ picture will you have in your mind about cigarettes then,now and forever? Hmmm
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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    Leaving aside that smoking can kill you through lung cancer and heart disease.

    It can also make your life a complete misery later on if you develop chronic bronchitis and emphysema. Just imagine not being able to breathe properly and gasping for air at all times. Imagine that you are completely moribound at home, requires an oxygen cylinder at all times and requires a wheelchair to travel. Basically, it could be the same as a living death.

    Just who is going to take pity on you then? For being too macho to quit?

    Derek
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave Allen
    I finally quit over four months ago. I read a book, finished it and haven't smoked since. It's called "The Easy Way".

    Allen Carr's Easy Way To Stop Smoking > Home
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    All I can say is it was anything but easy.

    Since then, I run 2 to 3 miles a day, 4-6 days a week.

    I think the biggest benefit for me is regaining control. Being addicted to nicotine for 32 years was/is self-imprisonment and slavery.

    Another site I found helpful is WhyQuit - the Internet's leading cold turkey quit smoking resource
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  • Profile picture of the author mbealmear
    As a smoker myself I could not imagine just quitting cold turkey.
    I think that someone who doesnt smoke does not understand just how difficult it is to quit smoking.
    It is more than just an addiction for alot of people including myself smoking is kinda a "saftey net" for lack of a better term.
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      While everyone is being afraid of lung cancer, Allen, you bring up a good point - lung cancer is NOT the only cancer on the rise - skin cancer, breast cancer, they are ALL on the rise. For quite awhile the medical community was able to pawn off skin cancer as a reaction to sunshine with the result of hundreds of thousands of people cutting off their only source of Vit D3 and the health repercussions have been deadly (and lucrative if you are in the health field).

      If you put in enough research on the effect fluoride has on cell mutation, and the fact that the cell mutation and fluoride toxicity can be passed on to a fetus, you will find something much more terrifying than cigarettes - how much fluoride do you ingest daily? How much is in your water? 1 ppm is enough to cause mutations in cells. This stuff, unlike cigarette damage which will begin to reverse once you quit, is bio-accumilative and doesn't just "go away". Fluoride ingestion can make the total difference in whether you die from smoking or not, or from a lot of other cancers that can't be coped off as cigarette calamaties. It can make a difference in one hell of a lot of health factors. So instead of being so obsessed with govenment released information about cigarettes, it might do everyone, non-smokers and smokers alike, to start studying up on how fluoride is killing you and some of the surprising sources of this toxic crap.
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      They fluoridated water because it wasn't legal for the companies that produce it as an industrial by product to dump it anywhere. Dow right now is messing with the EPA to get the restrictions dropped to allow them to make more potent fluoride fertilizers. It's a potent neuro-toxin and kidney stones are some small potatoes in the nature of what this stuff does. I just about choked reading the research results for my last article - on how fluoride effects the aging processes. Scary stuff. Makes me look at my cigarettes like very benign little devices.

      Grand Rapids, Michigan was the first place in the US to fluoridate water - and they are now stopping it in their area - but the rest of the nation is left to fight it city by city after their campaign in the 60's (50's?) to start it in the first place. We've been very duped. Here at my Dad's house in MI, I just read their water report (their water is pure sewage!) and this water company doesn't even pretend it is good for you - tell you right up it's waste from local industry. Whew - have a glass of water? Not here. No Way. I'm on bottled water for awhile it appears.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    I quit March5th of this year after smoking for around 40 years.
    I could literally feel my blood pressure rise within seconds of lighting a cigarette.
    Even taking away the health risk of cigarettes, think of how much money you can save by not smoking? They are about $4 a pack here,and I am in the heart of tobacco country.I know some places they are a lot more expensive.
    Contrary to what a lot of people have said, I did not feel any great changes after quitting,no sesnse of smell restored (well,ok maybe a little),no great increase of appetite or stamina,
    The two benefits I got was one, I stopped the morning cough I had had for years and two I did manage to get my blood pressure under control.
    Quitting smoking didn't fix the BP by itself, but it did help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Teenage Genius
    What people are saying here is absolutly true. Smoking does nothing except feed a nicotine addiction and harm your health and make you smell.

    I have realised this.

    I have got hold of some patches and set my quit date for saturday

    Please read my introduction thread, i am new. Its in the "Off-Topic" Section.

    Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Wilkinson
    I smoked for 40 years. I tried every method I could find
    to quit and nothing worked. One day I just "deceided" to
    quit. I had two days worth of cigarettes left to prepare.
    Day after tomorrow it'll be 18 months and I really don't miss
    them. I wish I could give everyone the "secret" to quitting
    but I think it must be different for everyone. I think I was
    just ready to be done with it.

    T.W.
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  • Profile picture of the author mymarketingsecret
    I'm a smoker too, I've been smoking for about 17 years now and i need to quit. I came across a video about the electronic cigarette and was wondering has anyone tried this?

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  • Profile picture of the author Laurawrites
    I think no one knows what damage smoking does or doesn't do. Naturally, it does do damage, that is for certain. But, the extent and degree is unknown. Every statistic seems so skewed they're unbelievable. 1 in 4 lung cancer patients have not only never smoked, they've never been around second hand smoke, or any related drug. Likewise, people die from cancer on a daily basis who have lived truly healthy lives with a good diet and plenty of exercise. Yes, smokers do get cancer. Many also have unhealthy diets, poor exercise, work in factories that handle chemicals, they have extremely stressful lives, some are also regular alcohol drinkers, etc.

    I think it's great to quit, but to really be healthy in the true sense of the word, you should also avoid caffeine, alcohol, fatty foods, artificial food coloring, high sodium diets, high sugar foods, etc. Where does it stop?

    We clean with chemicals that no one knows the long-term effects of when you're breathing the fumes, live in cities and breathe automobile emissions much of the day, work in factories manufacturing chemicals, etc.

    So, we all pick our poison and it's all a choice. Myself included.
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  • Profile picture of the author wookiejazz
    have you tried electronic cigarettes. They have helped me, haven't smoked an analogue since July 23rd. Also how I got into this whole marketing thing. I'd love everyone here to market these things. just check out my blog so see some of the affiliate offers.
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  • Profile picture of the author teleam
    I was a smoker for 56 years. I have been a nonsmoker for over a year now. I tried everything to stop over the years and nothing worked until I was scheduled to have a minor operation to implant a cochlear device in my head above the ear.

    The surgeon warned me since I was a heavy smoker (three packs a day) that the procedure could kill me as I also have health problems ( diabetes).

    I want the implant so bad that I stop smoking. It took me a week before it sank in.
    I never quit smoking I simply stopped smoking a twist. Perhaps you should try changing your mindset to stopping instead of quiting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    I know exactly how you feel, Sean. I had the same problem - Michael Oksa ain't no quitter! But then I found a solution that has worked for almost 14 years.

    Instead of quitting, make it a game to see how long you can go without a cigarette. You won't actually be quitting smoking, just increasing the time before your next one (again, for me it's going on 14 years).

    The reasoning behind ths method is threefold. 1. Mentally, I know I can have a smoke anytime, as I never really quit. 2. It makes it a challenge, especially useful in the first few days when the cravings are the strongest. 3. If you DO have another cigarette while playing the game, it means you have QUIT the game - and I know you ain't no quitter either.

    See, you don't have to quit to stop.

    To your health,
    Michael

    p.s. Fluoridated water is safe. Be very wary of any dangerous claims to the contrary. Oh, and just for kicks, immunizations DO NOT, HAVE NOT, and WILL NOT cause autism.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
    Haven't had a smoke in over 8 months. Smoked for about 16 years or so. I dont miss it a bit. I used gum to take the edge off whn i was quitting.

    Right now, the big thing around here is e-cigarettes. all the smokers are using them. No smoke smell, relatively benign chemicals used. damn sure cheaper than smoking
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    • Profile picture of the author Lawrh
      Your unconscious will always rebel at having something taken away, also it is ingrained in us to hate quitters. Instead focus on gaining something new. You become a non smoker, not a quitter. You gain breath, lung capacity and overall health. This applies to fat loss as well, become slimmer, never lose weight. Everyone hates a loser. Banish all words that tell your unconscious that you are being deprived. Concentrate on gaining things by becoming something new and better.

      It's like becoming an entrepreneur, banish all negatives. Only the positives you gain matters.
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    I am stoked as I have finally tried Electronic Cigarettes.

    - they are working too

    - I have a 1-1/2 to 2 pack a day, decades long chain smoking habit.

    - I have only had about 5 cigs in 48 hours* since I got my electronic ciggy.

    They are just radical - $42 for the battery (cigarette) which plugs into a USB port to charge up*

    - then you change the cartridges which deliver the nicotine. (came with 4)

    One cartridge is about 1 pack of cigs and then a new pack of 4 cartridges is $15 -

    Not only does it deliver the addictive nicotine,

    It has no carbon monoxide
    no fire
    no smoke
    no smell
    cheaper than cigs
    no prescription required


    HOWEVER - it has a mist that you exhale that is just like smoke! but it isn't and it doesn't stink or travel. I think the smoke is what was missing from like Nicotrol inhalers, which like this delivers the nicotine.

    it's not the nicotine that is bad, it is the smoke/other chemicals although supposedly it is the nicotine we are addicted to.

    hello then you cut down on nicotine a little at a time (get milder cartridges) and someday you are either FREE, dead or go back to smoking.

    we'll see!

    I am stoked - I may beat this monkey - just in the nick of time.

    I found additive free $6.25 packs were giving me the same symptoms that the real baddies did. Choking, sore throat, congested lungs, chest pains etc.

    check out puresmokeonline.com

    these are made in california and are about 1/5 the price of the ones advertised on the net elsewhere - find the site but then go to a discount cigarette store to get the deal.
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    • Profile picture of the author wookiejazz
      Originally Posted by Patrician View Post

      I am stoked as I have finally tried Electronic Cigarettes.

      - they are working too

      - I have a 1-1/2 to 2 pack a day, decades long chain smoking habit.

      - I have only had about 5 cigs in 48 hours* since I got my electronic ciggy.

      They are just radical - $42 for the battery (cigarette) which plugs into a USB port to charge up*

      - then you change the cartridges which deliver the nicotine. (came with 4)

      One cartridge is about 1 pack of cigs and then a new pack of 4 cartridges is $15 -

      Not only does it deliver the addictive nicotine,

      It has no carbon monoxide
      no fire
      no smoke
      no smell
      cheaper than cigs
      no prescription required


      HOWEVER - it has a mist that you exhale that is just like smoke! but it isn't and it doesn't stink or travel. I think the smoke is what was missing from like Nicotrol inhalers, which like this delivers the nicotine.

      it's not the nicotine that is bad, it is the smoke/other chemicals although supposedly it is the nicotine we are addicted to.

      hello then you cut down on nicotine a little at a time (get milder cartridges) and someday you are either FREE, dead or go back to smoking.

      we'll see!

      I am stoked - I may beat this monkey - just in the nick of time.

      I found additive free $6.25 packs were giving me the same symptoms that the real baddies did. Choking, sore throat, congested lungs, chest pains etc.

      check out puresmokeonline.com

      these are made in california and are about 1/5 the price of the ones advertised on the net elsewhere - find the site but then go to a discount cigarette store to get the deal.
      Well done, now don't go spending your savings on unnecessary things
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by Sean A McAlister View Post

    So what is a person to do? If I quit smoking then I am a quitter.
    Whereas if you become a non-smoker...

    Change the terminology.
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  • Profile picture of the author ZXT
    I'm glad I never got into smoking though I tried it back in High School, I didn't like it and never did.
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