Pregnant KFC worker beaten up by a customer (disturbing video)

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This happened in a KFC branch in China on 20th Dec 2009. The KFC supervisor was 2 months pregnant. An irate customer suddenly bursted in and started to beat her up because she had failed to deliver an ice cream cone to him at a nearby cafe. He went on to chase her into the kithen and kicked her. Despite pleading for help to her colleagues, none came to her help.

Following the assualt, the supervisor exhibited signs of miscarriage although it was unsure whether she was able to keep the baby or not. The man who assualted her turned himself in to the police a few days later. He claimed he was heavily drunk.

Two male workers at the KFC branced were reported to have been fired for not helping their supervisor despite her pleas for help.

I am just wondering if this had happened in the US or UK, would her colleagues have just stood idly by like this. Do you think it was justified to fire the two male workers?

Derek
  • Profile picture of the author Oce@n
    HELL YEAH that this was justified. I can't believe how p***sies the guys behaved in the video. They did nothing to protect the pregnant woman. That's a shame.

    Honnestly just by watching this video I'm boiling... I think I would have been out of control towards that worthless piece of trash that is this angry customer and just beaten the heck out of him.

    Sorry for this raw words but I find this just below mediocre.

    There should be a security guard in every shop.
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    • Profile picture of the author Hanz
      Originally Posted by Oce@n View Post

      HELL YEAH that this was justified. I can't believe how p***sies the guys behaved in the video. They did nothing to protect the pregnant woman. That's a shame.

      Honnestly just by watching this video I'm boiling... I think I would have been out of control towards that worthless piece of trash that is this angry customer and just beaten the heck out of him.

      Sorry for this raw words but I find this just below mediocre.

      There should be a security guard in every shop.
      Looks like a bunch of kids working there.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    In the US, we really can't say if others would just stand by. Some people would, and some wouldn't. In some states they passed LAWS requiring people to help! Some companies have rules demanding they don't.

    In such a case, it the US, if she miscarried, it would be MURDER!

    Is being drunk actually a defense in China? It IS in the US, but I never said our laws were fair.

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  • Profile picture of the author gridley
    This is so sad to see! I mean the guys didn't have to beat the guy up, just restrain him or something!
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  • Profile picture of the author kyhell
    just my opinion....

    but not only should they have been fired they should have been executed along with the guy that beat her. any man that hits a woman is of no use what so ever and any man that does not come to the aid of a woman and stands by and does nothing but watch is just as guilty and deserves the same punishment.
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    • Profile picture of the author Hanz
      Originally Posted by kyhell View Post

      just my opinion....

      but not only should they have been fired they should have been executed along with the guy that beat her. any man that hits a woman is of no use what so ever and any man that does not come to the aid of a woman and stands by and does nothing but watch is just as guilty and deserves the same punishment.
      I've seen men come to the aid of women only to get assaulted by the women for interfering in a domestic dispute.
      Damned if you do...damned if you don't! LOL! Men just can't win!
      Another thing is that most of North America is very litigious. Even when trying to play the hero, you can end up getting involved in all sorts of litigation and lawsuits. For example, you see a man hitting a woman, you run in and knock the guy out and think you're a hero. Next thing you know the man and woman are charging you for assault. You say "Well the guy was hitting the woman!" The woman will say "You hurt my boyfriend, you had no right to assault him!"
      Next thing you know, you're getting yourself a lawyer and trying to defend yourself...and it drags on....and you may end up being the criminal here.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by Hanz View Post

        Next thing you know, you're getting yourself a lawyer and trying to defend yourself...and it drags on....and you may end up being the criminal here.
        Things got bad enough with that one that it's starting to turn around, though.

        You have states now litigating that it's a criminal offense to NOT get involved. Cowards still will find a way to back out - but those who WANT to help will be protected from prosecution for helping. Even the woman too brainwashed or dense to realize that someone actually cared what happened to her won't be able to be railroaded into crying for her little abuser - and often they do so only because they are further threatened and afraid what more will happen if they don't.

        As far as defending home and family? It might be just a crazy thing of the past soon that an intruder can get away with suing someone if they are hurt in the process of committing crimes against someone:
        BillMaps - Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2009

        Leaves you to wonder why they have to make it a law that we can defend ourselves when our bill of rights expressly states self defense is an inalienable right. But with so many getting sued for protecting themselves I guess it at least lets the Judges know how they are expected to act when a citizen broadsides an intruder.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Derek - we have some real heroes in America. Not only would they have defended her, but they would have beaten that creep half to death - or shot him. Unfortunately, there are a lot of cowards and those who just won't get involved -

    People will bitch in your face if you smoke(for your own good) but if you are getting murdered, that same will turn the other way. Not too long ago a guy was shot in a fast food parking lot and laying there bleeding and people actually stepped right over him to get to their food. You'd think the blood might have been a clue he needed help?

    It's hard to figure out how people got this way. We make pals globally but don't have an idea who are neighbors are. Good luck to the person that needs help - neighbors no longer give a hoot. Something is breaking down people's empathy real badly. I thought it was just here, I see it's not just us.
    We also have sodium/silica fluoride being dumped in the water in a lot of places and that makes people complacent.

    I'm wondering something. You know those drugs that your Dr had your daughter on that were making her worse? Those kind of drugs are given to a LOT of people for just about any reason they can stuff them down people's throats here. Are they over there, too? The stats are 1 out of 10 people are actually fit to drive a car and at least 8 of the ten are on some sort of psycho-neurological drugs. I'm thinking that has a lot to do with this kind of thing, too.

    All in all though -- if you are in a situation that you need help here -- you can thank your lucky stars if there's a Veteran around -- or a red neck. A guy wants to slap a woman around in front of one of them and they are asking for some real problems.

    If those worthless guys aren't embarrassed to death by their inaction, I don't think firing them will sink in either -- but it will make her feel better knowing that she doesn't have to look at their slimy little butts any more.
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    Cowardice is the same everywhere when it comes to seeing someone assaulted. This one happened just several months ago here in the U.S. and no one - not even security guards helped out.

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    • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
      Originally Posted by garyv View Post

      Cowardice is the same everywhere when it comes to seeing someone assaulted. This one happened just several months ago here in the U.S. and no one - not even security guards helped out.

      YouTube - Subway Video Shows Girl Stomping Another Girl Unconsious As 3 Security Guards Stand By And Watch
      Garyv, I sort of suspect that the sercurity guards were held back not because they didn't want to help, but that they were afraid that they may lose their jobs if they did. We see this all time when people follow the most stupid company rules to the letter.

      What is really upsetting as well are those user comments for that video that are full of racist hatred because all the players in the video are black. One comment that struck me as particularly horrible was from a person who wanted a "f__king N_gg_r Holocaust.

      It is quite typcial for people in Chinese cities to avoid sticking out one's neck in order to stay out of trouble. There is very little community spirit left and it seems that the rest of the world is heading this way as well as Sal said.

      Looking at the KFC video, it appears that the whole situation could have been handled much better. For a start, the pregnant woman should have immediately retreated and called for help from her male colleagues at the first sign of violence. Instead, she lingered for quite a long time at the front. I wonder whether KFC had given some training in how to deal with violent situations like this.

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  • Profile picture of the author Funkf00t
    I fail to see why you presume the result would the different had the incident occurred in another country.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by Funkf00t View Post

      I fail to see why you presume the result would the different had the incident occurred in another country.
      Because different cultures of people act in different ways. And I think Gary has a point that this type of thing happens more in highly populated areas. Go to hometown USA and people are completely different than the people in a large metropolis.
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      • Profile picture of the author Funkf00t
        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        Because different cultures of people act in different ways. And I think Gary has a point that this type of thing happens more in highly populated areas. Go to hometown USA and people are completely different than the people in a large metropolis.
        I read the bible once, I seem to recall the 3rd - only the third person on this fine earth killed his brother, his own brother.

        Methinks it was hardly an urban area by any stretch of the imagination.
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        • Profile picture of the author garyv
          Originally Posted by Funkf00t View Post

          I read the bible once, I seem to recall the 3rd - only the third person on this fine earth killed his brother, his own brother.

          Methinks it was hardly an urban area by any stretch of the imagination.
          I'm sorry, but there were no other country boys around at the time. Otherwise Cain would have got his butt whooped.
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    I think it also depends on where it happens in the Country. It seems to happen more often in densely populated areas.

    Here's a good video interviewing different people and what they would do....

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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by garyv View Post

      I think it also depends on where it happens in the Country. It seems to happen more often in densely populated areas.

      Here's a good video interviewing different people and what they would do....

      YouTube - Intervention: Part 2.
      I think you have a point there GAry.
      People in densely populated ares have a tendency not to get involved because they see more stupid crap like this then those in the country.
      On the other hand people who live in rural areas or small towns tend to help each other out more.

      Carlos Mencia did an airline joke that this reminds me of.
      By the way I'm a loyal Southwest flyer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rich Lowe
    I think a lot of people are worried in case the attacker pulls out a knife or gun.

    This video was appalling and the guy is a total coward. I was surprised the other male workers didn't jump in and help her.

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    What I wonder is..........
    When a person just stands and watches someone get beaten, stabbed, or killed just because they are afraid.........
    How do they see themselves later? Do they dream about it? Are they ashamed and realize what terrible cowards they are?
    Do they realize how pathetic they are or are they completely so oblivious to society that they don't even see that they are completely derisory as a human?

    What about those who stand and watch just because they really and truly don't give a rip? That goes a whole different direction from pathetic -- that is just deeply disturbing and frightening.

    I think if I were married to or living with a man who showed this kind of cowardice, it would ruin the relationship. I couldn't respect a coward. I'd be afraid of someone who just plain didn't care enough to help.

    The hard one to bite on is that this kind of stuff is going to be spreading. Not only people inactively watching violence - but those who have absolutely deadly racial dispositions. Human sociology is being juxtaposed and it's going to get real nasty before it gets better.

    Anyone remember the "Time Machine" -- the scene where Weena is drowning and everyone is just watching her with absolutely not a care in the world that it's happening? Wells was making a very strong statement about oppression in that scene that haunted me for a long time...........and now I get to watch it in the real world. Freaking greaaaaaaaaaaat.
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  • Profile picture of the author jjeeezy
    I'm not going to press play because these sort of things tend to linger longer in my mind than they ought too, but omg that's so terrible.

    If I were there I'd take a metal bat out and bam bam his ass to death. yayyyviolence!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    I got involved in a fight once when I was in Cyprus. We were sat on the balcony of our hotel with friends when a a young lad was beaten up by a 4 man gang of thugs just below us. I was furious with my husband (and our male friend) because they thought we shouldn't get involved.

    I just ran straight downstairs and waded in. Hubby and friend frantically followed cos they thought I'd get beaten to death, but I think the gang were so shocked to see this middle aged woman standing over their victim they just fled. It was only afterwards I realised the danger I put us all in.

    Would I do it again, I hope I would...

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    • Profile picture of the author Hanz
      Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

      I got involved in a fight once when I was in Cyprus. We were sat on the balcony of our hotel with friends when a a young lad was beaten up by a 4 man gang of thugs just below us. I was furious with my husband (and our male friend) because they thought we shouldn't get involved.

      I just ran straight downstairs and waded in. Hubby and friend frantically followed cos they thought I'd get beaten to death, but I think the gang were so shocked to see this middle aged woman standing over their victim they just fled. It was only afterwards I realised the danger I put us all in.

      Would I do it again, I hope I would...

      Kim
      Good on ya Kim! Do you ever keep a weapon on you like a pen-knife or an umbrella-taser? I've heard people who keep weapons on them roam far more confidently and are less afraid. Either that or keeping a big dog around.
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by derekwong28 View Post

    I am just wondering if this had happened in the US or UK, would her colleagues have just stood idly by like this.
    Yes.

    The general idea today is that when a fight starts, you stay the hell out of it.

    This is primarily because most people today don't know how to fight in the first place, and think any kind of fighting is evidence of insanity.

    I personally find this disgusting, and would have kicked the drunk guy's arse AND the arses of all the jackholes who wouldn't help her.

    All men have the white knight gene. It's just that most of them lack the white knight BALLS.
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    • Profile picture of the author Hanz
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      Yes.

      The general idea today is that when a fight starts, you stay the hell out of it.

      This is primarily because most people today don't know how to fight in the first place, and think any kind of fighting is evidence of insanity.

      I personally find this disgusting, and would have kicked the drunk guy's arse AND the arses of all the jackholes who wouldn't help her.

      All men have the white knight gene. It's just that most of them lack the white knight BALLS.
      I'm a brown knight but the first thing I do before attempting to confront the enemy is think to myself "What would Bruce Lee do?"
      Then I think about Enter the Dragon where he says "the art of fighting without fighting!"
      By that I'm guessing he meant to try to communicate with the enemy and find some common ground. But then again, despite all his philosophy, he still decided to just beat up obnoxious guys. So I'd probably go ahead and fight anyway, let the cards fall where they may. I'd be branded a hero too which is a plus, win or lose! Plus women love a dude who can kick butt!
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  • Profile picture of the author Starring_Emma
    The music helped make the video easier to watch.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Atkins
    One day a guy was walking alone at night on the streets and
    saw a man beating up a woman.

    He ran towards the man and tried to stop him. The man (who
    was beating the woman) retaliated by hitting him with a knife
    3 times, leaving him for dead. Luckily the man survived.

    Turns out that the woman that was getting beat up wasn't
    the victim after all. She was the wife of the aggressor. She aborted
    their child without his permission, slept with several other men, and
    humiliated him every day. Finally the man snapped.

    End of story.

    So what's the point here?

    There are 2 points actually:

    1) By getting involved in a fight you'll be putting
    your life in danger.

    2) You never know the whole story behind a fight. The one
    who's getting beaten up may not be the victim at all.


    Would I interevene to stop someone from getting
    beaten up?

    Totally depends on the situation. Most of the time
    I wouldn't, I would simply call the cops.

    It's not cowardice it's called being smart.

    NOTE: In the case presented here, I would intervene
    especially if I knew she was pregnant. Hitting a
    pregnant woman like that is just wrong.

    I'll always intervene if a friend of mine gets into a fight, but I
    rarely try to stop strangers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Hanz
      I think the best way to approach a situation where a woman is getting beaten up by the man is to ask her "Are you related to this man?"
      If she answers "No" then go ahead and do what you need to. You might also want to ask her before intervening "Do you require assistance?" Just to be on the safe side.
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by IM Headlines View Post

      Turns out that the woman that was getting beat up wasn't the victim after all. She was the wife of the aggressor. She aborted their child without his permission, slept with several other men, and humiliated him every day. Finally the man snapped.
      I must be missing something here.

      A man's wife aborts his child, so he gets to beat her up?

      She sleeps with other men, so he gets to beat her up?

      She humiliates him every day, so he gets to beat her up?

      Where, exactly, do you find this right to beat people up?

      How is someone who gets beaten up not a victim?

      As far as I know, you've the right to use violence to defend yourself and others from violence.

      Not to teach your bitch wife a lesson, or whatever rationale you think might exist in the scenario you described.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
        Yeah I can see why someone would want to bash her, but still doesn't excuse it

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        Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

        I must be missing something here.

        A man's wife aborts his child, so he gets to beat her up?

        She sleeps with other men, so he gets to beat her up?

        She humiliates him every day, so he gets to beat her up?

        Where, exactly, do you find this right to beat people up?

        How is someone who gets beaten up not a victim?

        As far as I know, you've the right to use violence to defend yourself and others from violence.

        Not to teach your bitch wife a lesson, or whatever rationale you think might exist in the scenario you described.
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  • Profile picture of the author Starring_Emma
    A friend of my dads was married to a whack job of a women who would slap and claw at his face leaving his face very bloody yet he would do nothing more then try and hold her back until one day after scratching his face up she hit him in the face busting his glasses and putting a gash across the bridge of his nose so he smacked her and she called the police and they came and took him to jail even though he was all bloody and she didn't have a scratch on her.
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    • Profile picture of the author Starring_Emma
      Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

      There's an amazing invention one may use in such situations. It's called a door.
      Yeah, but how do you suggest he would get her to use it?
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  • Profile picture of the author opiniones
    You have to understand Chinese culture. They don't place the same value on life as people do in the west. I saw a video of a woman getting knifed in China at an atm and nobody helped her out even with people walking around.

    They are a bit like robots. They don't want to get involved and lack in spontaneous human nature.
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    • Profile picture of the author Starring_Emma
      Originally Posted by opiniones View Post

      You have to understand Chinese culture. They don't place the same value on life as people do in the west. I saw a video of a woman getting knifed in China at an atm and nobody helped her out even with people walking around.

      They are a bit like robots. They don't want to get involved and lack in spontaneous human nature.
      People in China are like ants in an ant farm... They are there for the cause. If the one next to you drops dead you just move them aside to make room for the new guy.
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      • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
        Originally Posted by Starring_Emma View Post

        People in China are like ants in an ant farm... They are there for the cause. If the one next to you drops dead you just move them aside to make room for the new guy.
        No, this is not true. There is really no cause except money and plain selfishness. Unlike the Japanese, the Chinese are way down in terms of loyalty and collective spirit, despite having many common aspects in their culture. Japanese managers in China have complained of how individualistic and unloyal Chinese workers are compared to Japanese workers.

        Also if you look at Chinese history, avoiding trouble is very much part of the Chinese character. For example, the Great Wall was built to keep out a handful of vastful outnumbered and outgunned "barbarian tribes". Yet China still managed to conquered twice by these tribes (Mongols and the Manchus) in its history. If you read Sun Tzu' s Art of War, then you will know that avoiding head on confrontation is very much part of Chinese culture.

        The funny thing is if there was a well built white person in that KFC, he would have been expected by the others there to intervene.
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      • Profile picture of the author Peter Mai
        Originally Posted by Starring_Emma View Post

        People in China are like ants in an ant farm... They are there for the cause. If the one next to you drops dead you just move them aside to make room for the new guy.
        Such generalization. Not everybody is exactly the same and you can't just say that about all the people in china. I'm sure that if there were people of chinese background reading this they wouldn't be too happy about it. Everybody is different, we're all human beings and are unique in our own way. You can't just group everybody from a particular background together and say they are all the same
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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    If you want further proof of this, half the world's self made women billionaires are from China

    Ranks of self-made female billionaires growing - Business - Forbes.com - msnbc.com

    In terms of gender equality in business, China has surpassed the West quite some time ago.


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  • Profile picture of the author buy_cheap_blinds
    wow, that was disturbing to watch. If that happened in the US I think people would step-up and do something, but who knows these days.
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  • Profile picture of the author hayden459
    Its the most pathetic video i have ever watched. I wonder that how coward the people who were present at that time in the shop when that person was beating the manager. They must come forward and help her but they didn't. Its really strange.
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