40 Wealthy Families Pledge To Donate Their Money

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SEATTLE -- Forty wealthy families and individuals have joined Microsoft Corp. co-founder Bill Gates and billionaire investor Warren Buffett in a pledge to give at least half their wealth to charity.

Six weeks after launching a campaign to get other billionaires to donate most of their fortunes, the chairman and CEO of Berkshire Hathaway Inc. released the first list Wednesday of people who have signed what he and Gates call the "giving pledge."

Buffett decided in 2006 to give 99 percent of his fortune to charity. Then, he was worth about $44 billion.

After five years of investment returns while making annual gifts to five foundations, Buffett's fortune totals nearly $46 billion.

Buffett said he, Bill and Melinda Gates, and a few others have made 70 to 80 calls to some of the nation's wealthiest individuals.

The people who agreed to the pledge are from 13 states, with the most participants in California and New York.

Among those who haven't signed the pledge, some prefer to keep their philanthropy anonymous, some were not available to talk, and others were not interested, Buffett said.

Many on the list will be asked to call others, and small dinners will be held across the country in coming months to talk about the campaign.

"We're off to a terrific start," Buffett said.

Buffett said he and Bill Gates also will meet with groups of wealthy people in China and India within the next six months to talk about philanthropy.

They hope the idea of generosity will spread, but they have no plans to lead a global campaign, Buffett said.

Gates and Buffett estimate their efforts could generate $600 billion dollars in charitable giving. In 2009, American philanthropies received a total of about $300 billion in donations, according to The Chronicle of Philanthropy.


SEATTLE -- Forty wealthy families and individuals have joined Microsoft Corp. co-founder Bill Gates and billionaire investor Warren Buffett in a pledge to give at least half their wealth to charity.

Six weeks after launching a campaign to get other billionaires to donate most of their fortunes, the chairman and CEO of Berkshire Hathaway Inc. released the first list Wednesday of people who have signed what he and Gates call the "giving pledge."

Buffett decided in 2006 to give 99 percent of his fortune to charity.

Then, he was worth about $44 billion. After five years of investment returns while making annual gifts to five foundations, Buffett's fortune totals nearly $46 billion.

Buffett said he, Bill and Melinda Gates, and a few others have made 70 to 80 calls to some of the nation's wealthiest individuals.

The people who agreed to the pledge are from 13 states, with the most participants in California and New York.

Among those who haven't signed the pledge, some prefer to keep their philanthropy anonymous, some were not available to talk, and others were not interested, Buffett said.

Many on the list will be asked to call others, and small dinners will be held across the country in coming months to talk about the campaign.

"We're off to a terrific start," Buffett said.

Buffett said he and Bill Gates also will meet with groups of wealthy people in China and India within the next six months to talk about philanthropy.

They hope the idea of generosity will spread, but they have no plans to lead a global campaign, Buffett said.

Gates and Buffett estimate their efforts could generate $600 billion dollars in charitable giving. In 2009, American philanthropies received a total of about $300 billion in donations, according to The Chronicle of Philanthropy.

In addition to making a donation commitment, Gates and Buffett are asking billionaires to pledge to give wisely and learn from their peers.

The group has no plans for combined giving, and none of the philanthropists will be told how or when to give their money.

"Everybody has their own interests," said New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who participated in the teleconference as one of the individuals who has signed the giving pledge. "That's what's wonderful about private philanthropy."

Bloomberg, who has a fortune estimated by Forbes magazine at $18 billion, said he has changed his personal philosophy over the years from wanting to be more private about his giving toward trying to play a leadership role.

He said his whole family is in tune with his giving plan.

"I've always thought your kids get more benefit out of your philanthropy than your will," he added.

Others who have signed the pledge include filmmaker George Lucas, media mogul Ted Turner and Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen.


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The U.S. estate tax is a whopper and this is a good way for folks to give to causes they believe in and support before the taxman comest.
  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

    The U.S. estate tax is a whopper and this is a good way for folks to give to causes they believe in and support before the taxman comest.
    Well, gates and buffet DID do it before this admin. The reasons they said they did it didn't include taxes. They basically said it was for philantropy and, though they didn't say it in so many words, so their heirs wouldn't be so spoiled.

    And taxes change so much that one wonders if it is worth preparing for such a far off event. Also, there ARE other ways to keep the money in the family.

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      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      Well, gates and buffet DID do it before this admin. The reasons they said they did it didn't include taxes. They basically said it was for philantropy and, though they didn't say it in so many words, so their heirs wouldn't be so spoiled.

      And taxes change so much that one wonders if it is worth preparing for such a far off event. Also, there ARE other ways to keep the money in the family.

      Steve
      The high estate tax has basically been in place way before this admin.

      Just because they didn't say their moves had anything to do with taxes does not mean taxes did not figure into their motives.

      If I was a billionaire and knew half of my assets - upon death - would go to the fed gov - no matter what I did, I'd probably try to get as much as possible to causes I support instead of letting the feds get a hold of it.

      Since I'm not privy to these folks inner thinking, I'm just speculating, but IMHO, it's reasonable speculation.
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

        The high estate tax has basically been in place way before this admin.

        Just because they didn't say their moves had anything to do with taxes does not mean taxes did not figure into their motives.

        If I was a billionaire and knew half of my assets - upon death - would go to the fed gov - no matter what I did, I'd probably try to get as much as possible to causes I support instead of letting the feds get a hold of it.

        Since I'm not privy to these folks inner thinking, I'm just speculating, but IMHO, it's reasonable speculation.
        Well, like I said, one of the goals WAS philanthropy, so we agree there. YEAH, they have had the estate tax for a long while, but it changes.

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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          Buffet and Bill and Melinda Gates have done this for years now.

          It's odd that Gates has given so much and has been criticized for "not giving it to people in the US". He has done a lot of work in this country but has focused on giving to people around the world who truly do have nothing. He doesn't give money as a rule but gives necessities such as water treatment facilities to stop disease, health facilities to provide vaccinations, etc.

          Just because they didn't say their moves had anything to do with taxes does not mean taxes did not figure into their motives.
          I don't think taxes had anything to do with it. Gates has made it clear that his will directs his fortune to his charitable foundations and will not go to his children as he wants them to make their own way.

          Getting other rich people involved is something only those with the history of philanthropy of Gates and Buffet could accomplish. Good for them.

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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    When Buffet and Gates first announced this (earlier this year I think), Rupert Murdoch was asked if he would get involved and give away part of his fortune.

    He replied (words to the effect) "That he would rather be remembered for the contribution to society he's making via his media outlets (ie TV, newspapers, etc.).

    Having watched FoxNews (and its poorer cousin SkyNews Aust.) and read the tatty tabloid trash he publishes in Australia, I think the money would get him remembered more favourably. (IMO of course).

    Whatever the reasons for the rest of them giving though, as long as the money gets there and does some good, then hats off to them.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

      When Buffet and Gates first announced this (earlier this year I think), Rupert Murdoch was asked if he would get involved and give away part of his fortune.

      He replied (words to the effect) "That he would rather be remembered for the contribution to society he's making via his media outlets (ie TV, newspapers, etc.).

      Having watched FoxNews (and its poorer cousin SkyNews Aust.) and read the tatty tabloid trash he publishes in Australia, I think the money would get him remembered more favourably. (IMO of course).

      Whatever the reasons for the rest of them giving though, as long as the money gets there and does some good, then hats off to them.
      HEY, Alfred Nobel saw his obituary when people thought HE died. He developed the nobel peace prize to be remembered for IT rather than inventing dynamite! He probably had NO idea that dynamite would be replaced and that either would be used for PEACEFUL means such as building roads or making tunnels, etc...

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        Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

        HEY, Alfred Nobel saw his obituary when people thought HE died. He developed the nobel peace prize to be remembered for IT rather than inventing dynamite! He probably had NO idea that dynamite would be replaced and that either would be used for PEACEFUL means such as building roads or making tunnels, etc...

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        WRONG!!! Nobel invented dynamite just for the purpose of building roads or making tunnels! He was horrified that TNT was being used for killing, which is why he set up the Peace Prize.
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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          WRONG!!! Nobel invented dynamite just for the purpose of building roads or making tunnels! He was horrified that TNT was being used for killing, which is why he set up the Peace Prize.
          OH, sorry, I thought it was the other way around.

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  • How much money would you need to have to consider donating half?
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      Originally Posted by MillionairesDream.com View Post

      How much money would you need to have to consider donating half?
      Based on what I have seen now, IF, when I retire, I have about 335 times the average, or median income, or 30,000, whichever is more, I would probably be willing to donate half right then. That should be enough to allow me to have as much as $250,000 a year if I live to 85, and the market doesn't dive, etc.... I picked a formula that tries to cover all the bases, because the values are likely to change a LOT! 30 years ago, I probably would have said 1.2Million. Today, it is 10Million. What will it be in another 30 years? I would then donate the remainder.

      Heck, even bill gates and warren buffet aren't donating half their income right now. If they did, they would be lucky to get 80% of that(so 50% becomes 40%), and they would lose much of what they have, not even considering the money.

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    • Profile picture of the author Edk
      Originally Posted by MillionairesDream.com View Post

      How much money would you need to have to consider donating half?
      When it starts being a problem and making me unhappy - which it most definitely does with these super super rich
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