Obama's "civilian national security force"

Whats the worry.

In comparison, the all powerful and negligibly accountable
shiny new Homeland Security has much to be feared.
Wonder who pays their wages :rolleyes:

The American public has far more to worry about from these people than from what you posted about.

Anyone that makes a statement like has no business writing a column:
"We've seen programs like this before - in Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy, Stalin's Soviet Union and Mao's China."

Comparing Obama to Hitler, Mao and Stalin is BS. It's pure "opinion" and conjecture from the right and we never hear facts...Here's some facts:

WTC - Happened on an all Rep. watch. BTW, Bush was 20% into his first term when 9-11 happened.

Iraq - Cost us $1 trillion so far, and will end up costing us $3 trillion plus, by the time we pay for all our injured troops for the next 50 years.

Not to mention 4,000 American lives and 1 million Iraqi lives...But what a million lives? Saddam Hussein killed about 300,000 over 30 years. We killed them at 15X that rate.

Isn't going to war under false pretenses and million innocent lives lost enough?

Katrina - Total incompetence that displays the rep. cronyism. "Good job Brownie"...The guy judged horse shows for goodness sakes.


Let's see, that's our two most important commercial buildings, a city and a country destroyed when the GOP held the House Senate and Presidency.

...And, we still haven't caught Bin Laden, wasting time, money and troops in Iraq.

Deficit - Bush and the reps. were given a surplus and traded it for record deficits and debt.

Our Economy - It's a joke.

Now, we all hear about "socialism"...The word for today is "totalitarian", which we will abbreviate as GOP. Here's why:


Torture - We prosecuted Nazis at Nuremburg for water boarding, then we turn around and use it ourselves? This makes a mockery out of our GREATEST GENERATION that won WWII for us.

Disobeying the Geneva Convention agreement.

Suspension of Habeus Corpus - The right to see a judge. This isn't about "terrorist rights"...It's about making sure the person is really a terrorist. It is the most basic legal right a free country gives. It's been in use since the 1300's.

Gitmo - AKA "goolag". Sure, there's some really bad people there that get what they deserve, but there's also been a couple of totally innocent people that have been tortured to an inch of their lives. The America I knew didn't do this.

Patriot Act/Domestic spying - I thought it was "Give me liberty or give me death", not listen in on our military's sexy phone calls home to their loved ones.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

The Bush doctrine - Says that we should strike first if there is "cause". This justified the Iraqui war. And sure, some will say if we struck first, WWII may not of happened...I say, had we struck first during the Cold War, the end of the World would have happened.

Q. The biggest problem is, what if you strike first and you're wrong? Answer: Iraq.

Striking first goes against logic and morals...Ever seen a court case involving a fight? The first question the judge asks is "Who threw the first punch?"..And that person is virtually always guilty.

If no one throws a "first punch", there won't be a fight (or a war).

If Obama is a socialist, the neocons are totalitarians, striping away our basic civil rights one by one in the name of "security".

These issues aren't conjecture. This is the real (recent) history of the GOP.

The saddest part is, none of these are conservative points of view. They aren't liberal, either. It's the neocon point of view.

We can say Obama knows this person or that person, and spout nothing but opinions and pretend to be Nostradamus, but the facts of the GOP over the last 8 years are the facts. It's history vs. horoscopes.

Because of Bush, the next president will inherit problems like no other president has faced, except Lincoln and FDR.

Don't forget Iran is a republic too!

It's ok, I will be so glad when the election is over, no matter who wins.