NATO officers: Aliens have tried to de-activate nukes

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Aliens 'tried to warn US and Russia they were playing with fire during Cold War’ - Telegraph

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Scary news of the day: US military men believe we are being invaded by alien CND members - Telegraph Blogs
(CND = Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament)
  • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
    Don't believe everything you see in the press or on the internet.

    People have agendas...
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Howard
    Besides, I would like to point out that even if Aliens visited to disable our nukes, why the hell didn't they do it on a massive scale?

    The logic is this - even if they have the tech to traverse at least 4 light years in a reasonable time (it would take 4 years traveling at the speed of light to reach Earth from Alpha Centauri, the closest system to the Solar System), why the hell would they even care to disarm our nukes?

    And if they did make the trip, and wanted to disarm our nukes, wouldn't they do it on a global scale?

    Disarming 10 minuteman missiles in the middle of the US is pointless. The nuclear arsenal of the US at the time was so large, the 10 missiles is like a grain of sand on the beach.

    So, even if they DID visit Earth, and went to the base and tampered with the missiles, the more likely scenario is that they did so for something other than disarmament.

    Some sort of study, stealing fuel for a return flight, etc.

    However, I doubt that even if a civilization could reach us within a short time over the extreme distance, they would have a technological advantage over us, we would look like bugs. Chances are, they wouldn't give a crap about the earth and humans. We would, most likely, be ignored.

    Rob
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    • Profile picture of the author Thomas
      Originally Posted by ccmusicman View Post

      However, I doubt that even if a civilization could reach us within a short time over the extreme distance, they would have a technological advantage over us, we would look like bugs. Chances are, they wouldn't give a crap about the earth and humans. We would, most likely, be ignored.
      In theory, the only technological-advantage they would have is their means of propulsion.

      With the sole exception of a means of propulsion that could get us to another star in a reasonable period of time, human technology is ALREADY capable of building an interstellar spacecraft (except that it wouldn't go anywhere ). And there's plenty of stuff on paper, just waiting to be tried out in reality as regards propulsion. Personally, I'd be very surprised if a human-build spacecraft of some type hasn't embarked on a journey to another star before the end of this century.

      The technology used by aliens visiting Earth may actually be no more than a few decades ahead of ours, in some cases, and more only be equal to ours in others. For example, I'd bet their supposed ability (and intention) to shut down nuclear missiles as reported in the article mentioned above was nothing of the sort: I'd put money on it that there was nothing wrong with the missiles themselves; their (less protected) launch control systems were suffering from electromagnetic interference, which could simply be a by-product of some UFO propulsion system; "they" may simply have been having a look, and affected the systems without even knowing. But, even if there was malicious intent, better EM shielding would likely stop any such interference immediately.

      In fact, if you look at the reported history of confrontation between UFOs and humans, it suggests our existing military technology would give us a pretty good fighting chance in any supposed "War of the Worlds"-type attack on us.

      Personally, I'll explode with joy the day I can scream "Die, alien scum!" for real.
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
    Maybe they are us, or rather what we eventually evolve into, coming back via time-machines (that look like saucers) to prevent us from destroying the race.

    Hmmm, maybe I've been watching too many old Star Trek movies about saving whales.

    :-Don
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    • Profile picture of the author John Henderson
      Originally Posted by Don Schenk View Post

      Maybe they are us, or rather what we eventually evolve into, coming back via time-machines (that look like saucers) to prevent us from destroying the race.
      Maybe they're intergalactic hippy aliens, who only visited our planet to collect marijuana leaves, cigarette papers and Crosby, Stills & Nash CDs. And then just disarmed a few nukes as a "protest gesture".
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by Don Schenk View Post

      Maybe they are us, or rather what we eventually evolve into, coming back via time-machines (that look like saucers) to prevent us from destroying the race.

      Hmmm, maybe I've been watching too many old Star Trek movies about saving whales.

      :-Don
      There IS a theory that that is who they are, and another that they are from a parallel universe. There is even one that says they are in the same plane with us in a kind of balanced reality.

      But there ARE two theories as to how the planets keep everything in balance and hum along rather consistently. In either case, the earth is like a cartilage disk in the vertebra of an animal. One out of place may cause NO problem! Eventually, however, it could bring down the largest of animals. Maybe they don't care about us, the environment, or even the planet, but about the disruption that could occur if it is destroyed. And how much work is required to deactivate ONE missile? If I had the power to do so with immunity, and were an unknown foe, I might deactivate a few in the major "think tank" areas to try to get the idea across.

      Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Considering the amount of UFO sightings, 6 military people recounting stories about aliens at the bases isn't all that astounding. The strangest thing I think I will ever see, I saw over a military base. What it was doing there is something that I wouldn't know whose story to believe about it.

    I do remember the "War of the Worlds" broadcast and the chaos that ensued, and do believe if the military had said such things publicly decades ago it would have damned well caused panic.

    If there are aliens watching - or interacting - It would be a good thing to know they are doing so to save us from something. I see our factory farms and any other consideration involving advanced life forms becomes pretty bizarre to think about. Their presence would also be more eerie after reading the Enuma Elish and going historically philosophical on the subject.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Thomas, I don't know. I once had an idea for an aircraft with an interesting power source and propulsion. I tried to figure out how much power it would take, etc... I figured that it would take SO much power that the power source would weigh so much that it wouldn't be worthwhile. And most ships have a greater potential for speed but less of an ability to generate it as they go farther into space. So a lot of the limiting factor has been POWER, and not method. GRANTED they couldn't go at the speed of light. I don't think ANY vehicle ever could. But they can't go as fast as they could if they had the fuel.

    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
      Sidebar:

      One thing to keep in mind when we fantasize about traveling to other worlds is that the human body can withstand 3 G's for only an hour. After that the G forces have to return to a lower level. We can withstand 5 G's for only two minutes.

      So to get to any appreciable speed you would need a year or more of constant acceleration to get up to speed. That's a lot of fuel because things like solar wind fade as the distance increases from the source.

      The same holds true for deceleration, and because of Newton's First Law of Motion you need fuel to slow the spaceship down (think retro rockets).

      The bottom line is the laws of physics present a far greater hurdle than the human imagination and its' need for romantic ideas can surmount. That's not to say progress won't continue to be made from a technical standpoint, only that at some juncture an inevitable point of diminishing returns is reached.

      I'm sure the same human ego that has held steadfast to the idea that we are the only life in the universe will someday switch to the idea that we have progressed beyond the laws of physics and the inherent limitations they hold. But that viewpoint may only be as valid as the one that proclaimed the Earth was flat.

      If you really want a glimpse into the potential of what the most technologically advanced societies can really accomplish you need look no further than our response to Katrina. That's where the rubber met the road...

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  • Profile picture of the author sarahberra
    Very interesting. Eventually man can destroy themeselves with the power that they posses. Nukes!! The entire earth can be wiped out, but every country has to have thier own. It's like a ticking time bomb. Eventually some crazy president is going to set one off and cause a cascade of events.
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  • Profile picture of the author gareth
    Maybe they really wanted to launch the nukes and couldn't figure out the secret code.

    Or maybe the alien finger was the wrong shape to press the button.
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