USA Wanrning-*-New Currency-$Amereo$ Coming.

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This is just a Warning out to fellow American Warriors that your economic crisis is going to get worse soon.

Below is text taken from wikipedia, but just goole "Amero" to see that the money and Nth American union has been planned and is now being pushed.

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The North American Currency Union is a theorized economic and monetary union of the three principal countries of North America, namely Canada, the United States, and Mexico.[1] Implementation would probably involve the three countries giving up their current currency units (Canadian dollar, U.S. dollar, and Mexican pesos) and adopting a new one, created specifically for this purpose. The hypothetical currency for the union is most often referred to as the amero.

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This comes off Bloombergs site.

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ECB's Nowotny Sees Global `Tri-Polar' Currency System Evolving

By Jonathan Tirone

Oct. 19 (Bloomberg) -- European Central Bank council member Ewald Nowotny said a ``tri-polar'' global currency system is developing between Asia, Europe and the U.S. and that he's skeptical the U.S. dollar's centrality can be revived.

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If your are not preparing or aware of this, then I implore you to look into it, as the USA is being royally sold down the river and if you are an American, you only need to look at the recent bank bail out which was reported at $700 Billion, but now, it's been reported to be going up to $5 Trillion+ dollars and maybe up to $10Trillion at which point your new president acting for the banking interests will help condition and introduce the North American Union and AMERO.

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World leaders around the globe are repeatedly calling for a New World Order financially, but neglect to read out the fine print and I encourage you all reading this to go out and read the fine print. Then ask questions.

Why isn't this being made known publicly?
Who is getting all that bailout money?
Which people own the banks and stand to profit from all this?

The AMERO is coming. Global depression is around the corner and the USA is going to cop-it royally in the ass.

Just don't take it lying down.

Get Informed. Get Aware. Get f''''ing mad!

Fight back!

-Rob
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    "but just goole "Amero" "
    It might be better if you just use the search function and you will see this subject has been beaten to death alreadly.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
      Thanks for that. You right. But worth sticking back into peoples faces dont' you think?

      Next is the Asero or some other name worked out by the New World Order, and one currency, one government, one enslaved world.

      This ain't a matter of beating it to death but a matter of enlightenment and confronting the people who are purposely making your life and every bodies elses, a lot harder than it has to be.

      It's time for a matrix revolution and it starts right here, right now! Except this time, it ain't the robots but sick individuals who have a complete monopoly over government, the reserve and central banks and basicaly the entire planet. And as puppets, we are all dancing to their tune.

      Personally, I don't like the music being played.

      -Rob
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    By the way, you need to remove your sig or read the sig rules.
    And I'm not concerned about ameros at the moment. It's rmour being passed along to create fear needlessly.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    lol espacecadet, yes, like I said to the OP, there have already been several threads about this. You both can believe it if you like, but I an not insecure about it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy123
      Bloomberg.com: Worldwide

      Bretton Woods News

      European Central Bank council member Ewald Nowotny said a ``tri-polar'' global currency system is developing between Asia, Europe and the U.S. and that he's skeptical the U.S. dollar's centrality can be revived.

      ``What I see is a system where we have more centers of gravity'' Nowotny said today in an interview with Austrian state broadcaster ORF-TV. ``I see for the future a tri-polar development, and I don't think that there will be fixed exchange rates between these poles.''

      They say the US dollars centrality may not be revived, and they see more centers of gravity.
      I think what that means is there still may be a US dollar, But it will not have such a monopoly over the financial industry.

      Where they speak of tri-polar global currency that could be the Amero, the Euro, and the Chinese RMB. But I don't see how they can pull that off in the near future, they would have to crash the Yen or get China and Japan to agree. I also don't think Russia is fully on board.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
        Yeah. Russia and China aren't under the whip-hand and hold over 1.5 Trillion+ USD in reserves.

        There have been leaked reports on starting a war with either one in order to bring about the whip-hand control over these countries.

        Japan has been in a depression since the crash in the 90s. I know, as I am living here at the moment. With 80% drops in value of homes and other hard assets around the country.

        Yet again, Japan along with China and Russia are the top lenders to the US and to handle that, the US dollar has to get wiped out to zero at which point the Amero, NWO solution will be put forth as countries and the middle class are reeling from the confusion.

        It's happening. Just open your eyes.

        -Rob
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    • Profile picture of the author acreativetouch
      Originally Posted by espacecadet View Post

      Nothing to be insecure about but we should be concerned about this and begin transferring our dollars into another currency to safeguard them.

      No one believed there would ever be such a thing as a Euro before it happened...
      What currency would you suggest?

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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    I agree, and no one believed 20 years ago that plastic would replace the dollar, but it basically has.
    I remember being forced to get my first ATM card and I thought, this is BS, no one will ever buy into having to do this....boy was I wrong.
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    • Profile picture of the author reapr
      Originally Posted by KimW View Post

      I agree, and no one believed 20 years ago that plastic would replace the dollar, but it basically has.
      I remember being forced to get my first ATM card and I thought, this is BS, no one will ever buy into having to do this....boy was I wrong.
      The world keeps changing I remember thinking back 30 years ago who would buy bottle water ... boy was I wrong.

      Creating a currency such as the Amero is just another way to transfer wealth and spin it as trying to stabilize economies.. Something to think about.
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      • Profile picture of the author James_Harkin
        Originally Posted by reapr View Post

        The world keeps changing I remember thinking back 30 years ago who would buy bottle water ... boy was I wrong.

        Creating a currency such as the Amero is just another way to transfer wealth and spin it as trying to stabilize economies.. Something to think about.
        The world DOES keep changing, I remember thinking back 20 years that I'd never get a mobile cellular phone ... boy was I wrong.

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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          Originally Posted by James_Harkin View Post

          The world DOES keep changing, I remember thinking back 20 years that I'd never get a mobile cellular phone ... boy was I wrong.
          The world just keeps ON changing, I remember thinking back 10 years ago that I'd never get a car with GPS ...
          boy was I wrong.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
      Originally Posted by HarveyJ View Post

      Smartcookie: Sorry, but as an Aussie, why the F do you care about the Amero?
      And it's not like a unified currency will actually spell financial doom. The Euro did quite well in reinvigorating the economy of central Europe.
      Go drink some Coopers and be happy with our shiny plastic money that has a little window in the corner.

      Paul: The only reason why the Euro wasn't actually introduced into Britain was because the GBP is still substantially more valuable, and so it wouldn't make sense for Britons to sign up to a weaker currency unit. It'd shrink the economy.
      Then again, Briton's don't exactly like change either. I still remember the whole "going metric" issue you folk had a while back and how green grocers were suddenly being used as a yardstick, because they wouldn't be able to figure out what to charge people for a pound of bananas anymore... *facepalm*

      It's not a matter of being and Aussie or not. GET this through your head. It has happened to Europe and it appears that it is doing great things there.

      It is planned to happen and is happening to the US, Canada and Mexico without the consent of the people.

      And it's planned to happen to Asia which includes Ozz.

      It's all been laid out in the Trilaterial commission--headed by Rockefeller.

      Let me ask?

      Have you ever played Monopoly with someone who is the bank, owns all the majority of the property and is stacked up in CASH.

      Did you ever get to win?

      Or did you realise at some point that it was a hopeless situation and called it quits.

      Well that's where we are with our money system globally!

      The US, Europe, Ozz. It don't matter.

      Just Google it. A New World Order is being called for by world leaders and it's becoming more and more open.

      As an Aussie and someone who believes in mankind with REAL FREEDOM, I am pissed that it's being done and our governments are not listening--let alone from being anywhere near to be functioning per the constitutions.

      Just mull it over. THe aussie dropped 30 cents in a blink of an eye. No matter what is being told, it was caused by the few who control the many!

      -Rob
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    Smartcookie,
    One , you are incorrect, and
    two , you have been told you need to change your sig as it is against the forum rules.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy123
      I hope we keep the dollar, but I'm prepared most
      of my savings is in RMB, held offshore.

      I'd suggest people hold other currencies just in case.

      If they do want to create the Amero, why not just do it,
      why do they need to crash the dollar, just for an excuse?

      Also why not crash the Canadian dollar. Maybe because
      only Americans will fight back? Do Canadians care if they lose their
      dollar.

      The supposed crisis coming Jan 21st, I don't think will be the crash
      of the dollar, too soon, I don't think their smart enough to pull that
      off so fast, I hope.
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      • Profile picture of the author MaskedMarketer
        Originally Posted by Jeremy123 View Post

        If they do want to create the Amero, why not just do it,
        why do they need to crash the dollar, just for an excuse?
        Its called "problem" "solution". If there is no problem, why fix something? When (if) the dollar crashes- and when the Amero is introduced, the transition will be smoother as it will look like the government is providing a solution and not forcing a change in currency. People don't like to be forced to do something.

        Its kind of like how some people think the world trader center collapse was the excuse to go to war for oil in the middle east. Or something like that.
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        • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
          Yeah I guess that's how these International Gangsters want the public to see it. As a solution.

          And once the final crash of your economy occurs and employment skyrockets, carbon taxes and and and....

          Most people will welcome all sorts of solutions being flogged-off to the uninformed public. It's called a False Flag operation.

          Look it up, it's real and in found in training manuals.

          There's an monopoly and hidden agenda by the International bankers. The US taxpayers have just been fleeced for 2Trillion and not the reported 700Billion dollars. And experts say it's going to be up to 5-10Trillion dollars.

          If that don't make you p''''ed then, keep pretending that none of this is real and that it has nothing to do with you, your family, or your country.

          For anyone who wants the truth, just visit Bloomberg site and read all about the trillions, the Feds non-disclosure.

          I'm not making it up. I'm p''''ed that we are being fleeced, left, right and center.
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        • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
          Yeah, I guess that's how we get programmed to see and accept it. As a "solution"

          But, what we aren't told about things such as the recent bailout being $700Billion and now up to $2 Trillion+ with experts tipping it to be $5-10Trillion.

          Source: Bloomberg today.

          And if I were the International Bankers and the Fed Reserve, I guess I would be smiling too after ripping-off the taxpayers with Trillions of dollars and my plans being executed to plan.

          The point is that we "the people" are being herded like sheep and the wolfs wear Armani and Versace suits, print money, charge our governments for that privilege and tax the sh'''out of us for doing so.

          And I guess that the banks are being honest with us and are looking out for all our interests then?

          The Amero is coming. They are crashing the world financial markets causing the problem and naturally, they have the solution--handy for the public to cling to.

          -Rob
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          • Profile picture of the author MaskedMarketer
            SmartCookie,

            Weather you are selling a book on how to make money, self improvement, or selling how to save a country, the principles are the same. Problem- solution. In this case people may be begging for a solution. The same way some marketers get customers begging for there products after they are "sold out".
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    • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
      Kim.

      ONE: Prove it.
      TWO: Prove it.

      The facts are all referenced there for anyone to take a look at. Seek and you shall discover some new found knowledge. You just have to Google it. Not hard to do--I don't imagine.

      The Amero is coming, trillions have been stolen by the Fed Reserve and that's just the beginning for the US and the rest of us. Just go to Bloomberg today to see all about that.

      But you know what, as Jack Nicholson told Tom Cruise "You can't handle the truth!" Perhaps he should of been talking to you.
      -Rob
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    For number one, you can believe what you want, for number two, its in the forum rules that your sig has to go to YOUR website.
    As I myself have personally told you twice and you have chosen to ignore it, any consequenses are your own doing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
      Look unfortunately you are missing the big picture here and the real issue.

      I am pissed that we are the pawns in this global game and it don't matter if you're an aussie or yanky or whatever. The central banks of our goverments are not part of the government and are privately owned.

      That means, that they are a select few people who have the right to print money out of "thin air" and then charge our governments interest for the privilege of having done so, and of course, we get the living day lights taxed out of us.

      In the US, there financial dominance is on it's very, extreme last legs and once the plan currency occurs there, then it's going to happen to Asia forming up the Trilateral group.

      The fact of the matter is what you state is just the mumbo jumbo of economics and if our economists are experts then why are our governments in debt?

      Who is this debt owed to?

      And what is the truth behind the false flags that are being flown for the public whille secret underhanded dealings are taken place behind closed doors.

      If you are happy with paying higher and higher taxes, and having less buying power and happy to support a government that is being run for the few global corporations then don't worry about a thing.

      Sit back and soak up what the media, governement and corporations are telling you, because, after all....they only "have your best interests at-heart."

      -Rob
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  • Profile picture of the author LavelleC
    I don't think the Amero will ever happen. To many good Americans won't spend them and too many American mom and pops won't accept them.

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    • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
      Lavelle,

      I understand what you are saying here, but I would urge you to watch that video posted by Jeremy 123 and try to wrap your head around what is being done to you and your fellow country men.

      What's coming aint' going to be pretty for anyone around the world and especially the US.

      -Rop
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeremy123
        just got this email, I don't think his arguments are strong enough though,
        it seems the Fed has printed too much money and the financial damage
        is too big unless the G-20 REALLY behave in the best interest of the people.

        The U.S. Dollar is Gonna be Around
        for a Long, Long, LONG Time
        by Jack Crooks

        It's times like these when I'm really glad that I haven't devoted myself to trading in the stock and commodities market. Sure there's money to be made, even on the downside.

        However, the dynamics of the currency market are far more appealing to me ... especially at a time like now when good companies and bad companies are tossed into the same rinse cycle and hung out to dry by fiscal and monetary policy decision-makers.

        So if you ask me, the currency market is far more clean-cut.

        But even trading an asset class that, to me, is more exciting, profitable, and at the moment, more fundamentally straightforward ... still requires shuffling through the major data and headlines to make hay of it all.

        For example, as this week came to a close, traders sought to dissect Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson's comments on Wednesday and determine the significance of the upcoming G-20 meeting that began this weekend.

        Paulson Changes Course ...

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        On Thursday, I received an e-mail regarding Paulson's decision. The author started with a series of the Treasury Secretary's quotes:

        * April 20 2007 -- "I don't see (subprime mortgage market troubles) imposing a serious problem. I think it's going to be largely contained."

        * March 16, 2008 -- "I have great, great confidence in our capital markets and in our financial institutions. Our financial institutions, banks and investment banks, are strong. Our capital markets are resilient. They're efficient. They're flexible."

        * May 16, 2008 -- "Looking forward, I expect that financial markets will be driven less by the recent turmoil and more by broader economic conditions and, specifically, by the recovery of the housing sector."

        * November 12, 2008 -- "This market has for all practical purposes ground to a halt. Today, the illiquidity in this sector is raising the cost and reducing the availability of car loans, student loans and credit cards. This is creating a heavy burden on the American people and reducing the number of jobs in our economy."

        The author's point was two-fold:

        1. To bring to the forefront just how clueless he believes Mr. Paulson and the government officials are,

        2. And to make it clear that U.S. leaders cannot do the right thing at the right time.

        I'll agree with the second point. Politics has become more important than acting appropriately.

        But I'm not so sure about the first point that government officials are clueless.
        What scared Hank into changing his mind?
        What scared Hank into changing his mind?

        I would argue, instead, that Paulson's plan was obviously to avoid creating premature panic within the market. In the background, however, there were certainly myriad discussions among officials on how to stem economic deterioration -- whether the extent of the resulting financial mayhem was underestimated or not.

        Nevertheless, the cheerleading and strategy shift hasn't changed much yet.

        Stocks are still in their funk after the S&P 500 hit a new intra-day low on Thursday ... before some curiously strong buying arose late in the day. And the U.S. dollar, conversely, touched a new intra-day high before falling back.

        But many exhausted and unsatisfied investors are leaning on this weekend for some direction. To that I say ...

        The G-20 Meeting Will Be More of the Same --
        Lots of Talk About Credit Markets, With One New Twist

        It's easy to see why the current market environment is motivating everyone to get a clearer grasp of the big picture.

        Portfolios have collapsed ... lending has locked-up ... global growth is slipping.

        Not to mention how buzz words, sound bites and back-handed solutions are coming from every direction. Government efforts around the world to secure the financial system have thus far proven futile.

        And it's scaring the hell out of people.

        So why not seek a better understanding of what will come from the ad hoc G-20 meeting being held this weekend? After all, a lot of important people will be there.

        But really, it's bound to be mostly an empty gesture; another one of those unsuccessful confidence builders.

        The G-20 meeting will rehash the same stuff they've talked about for months --how to stabilize the credit market. Only now there is another danger-factor added to the equation ... the sharp fall in growth in the emerging markets as liquidity and demand are evaporating.

        With that in mind, I would expect much of the discussion to be about how the G-20 can help stabilize some emerging countries that may be on the verge of default.

        Default in the emerging world spells CONTAGION! That word is the last thing the central banks want to deal with. As I told you in my November 1, Money and Markets column, the European banking system has huge exposure here ...

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        Emerging markets are feeling the pain of a global slump.

        What the G-20 WON'T Be Doing ...

        I get all kinds of e-mails from readers looking for my perspective on certain issues. Often they include an article or financial piece and ask for my comments.

        Most of the time the material is relevant.

        And when it's not, that usually means it's conspiracy stuff ... stuff predicting the imminent destruction of the U.S. dollar ... announcing the immediate need to purchase gold, gold, and more gold ... the impending launch of a new "currency-to-replace-all-currencies".

        Here's what I say about that stuff ...

        The world operates on a U.S. dollar system. And because of the complexity of the global financial system, a gold standard isn't a panacea; it is not the substitute for fiat currencies.

        While I absolutely admit gold is worthy of appreciation during certain cycles, I feel that it is not the end-all solution to investors' diminishing wealth.

        Over the longer-term, it's proven that global capital flow is wealth's major driver. Gold's price revolves around the U.S. dollar. And its safe-haven status is merely an interim side-note.

        My evidence is this:

        U.S. Dollar vs. Gold
        Look at the chart above. The inverse correlation between gold and the U.S. dollar in the last 30 years is obvious. When the U.S. dollar goes down, gold goes up. When the dollar rises, gold actually goes down.

        I admire the fact that so many people are becoming concerned with the economy, global and domestic. And I admire that they're willing to take necessary steps to protect themselves from financial time bombs -- whether currency-related or not.

        But keep in mind ...

        The U.S. Dollar IS the
        World's Reserve Currency

        The global financial system revolves around U.S. dollar-based credit and U.S. capital markets. I do not believe a whole new international financial architecture will be constructed overnight.
        The U.S. dollar is still the world's currency.
        The U.S. dollar is still the world's currency.

        Could dialogue at this meeting stir things up? Absolutely ...

        Who knows? The U.S. dollar could fall from World Currency Status or even be totally eliminated in the next 40-50 years. A lot can happen through man's ultra-sophisticated market process in that amount of time.

        But I don't think that this weekend's meeting is going to produce anything that structurally alters the future of currencies. And over the last four months, it seems a lot of traders must agree.

        They are abandoning the "dollar-is-dead" theme for very valid reasons; many of which I have laid out here for you plenty of times before.

        My two final points:

        1. The global macro backdrop is U.S. dollar bullish. And it doesn't look like it will change, no matter what takes place during the G-20 meeting ... even if a U.S. dollar correction results.

        2. The U.S. government gets immense benefits, politically and financially, because it has the world reserve currency and countries must hold it. And they are not about to throw that status away for an idea that another system can do any better.
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  • Profile picture of the author James_Harkin
    What is wrong with the sig file "Which Pill Will You Choose? The Red Or The Blue One? Enter the rabbit hole @ Your Own Risk."?

    Is this quotation copyrighted? Is this quotation political?

    Further to a new currency title of this thread. I have just read an article in the UK Daily Mail newspaper, which may be of interest:

    "...Prince Charles still insists when he becomes king he will not be Supreme Governer of the Church of England, but Defender of Faith - a multicultural king with no fixed beliefs.".

    Doesn't that sum up One World Religion in a soundbite?

    I was also concerned to hear on UK Satellite TV channel Sky News that UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown is now acknowledging China's sovereignty over Tibet.
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  • Profile picture of the author myob
    The Amero as a currency is nothing but a hoax since 2000. You can buy Ameros now all over the internet, but you will never be able to use them. It's amazing that people still believe this hoax.
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  • Profile picture of the author Roar
    I'm not nor ever have been into those conspiracy theories. My whole life I've been a conservative Republican. Used to be I'd laugh at these things. But over the past few years I've seen, read and heard things that have changed my perspective.

    I have been watching this for a few weeks now on Youtube. The Amero, the Trilateral/New World Order conspiracy, how Bush & the other politicians have sold us down the river because they are part of the elite few who truly control the world. Forget about political parties, they're two sides of the same coin. There are a few hundred people/families who control us.

    This is all true. It's like gravity, whether you believe it or not you will fall if you jump off a building. We are all falling whether you know it or not and most people are just sleep walking through it all so they don't know or care.

    The question is, what can we do about it? Do you really think Obama is going to help us? Why do you think he won? Did you notice how much more money & support he had over McCain? They wanted him in office for a reason or he wouldn't be there. They (the ruling families, NWO, Tri-laterals, whatever you want to call them) decide who will be our president.

    Obama's our new president because he's going along with the plan or he's there to divide us or to make things so much more desperately worse that we'd be willing to do anything to get back what we lost. But of course once they have total control, the New World Order, they will never give it back.

    Food & drinking water riots in the U.S.? Ridiculous. Wait. Need a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread? Hogwash. Wait. The ruling families such as the Rothchildes (the architects of this plan going back generations) owning our land so that we are nothing more than serfs. Ludicrous. Wait and see.

    Go to Youtube & search for the Amero, the New World Order, the economic collapse and watch all the videos, especially "The Most Important Video Ever! Must Watch". It is in 29 parts but it is compelling. It is made by people you may call conspiracy nuts but most will call me & others conspiracy nuts. Go back to sleep & believe your political party leaders and I'll see you on the bread line or the battle line, depending on how bad we get.

    Let us not take this lying down. Let us at least tell them we know what they're up to and we're not going to go quietly. Wake up! Tell everyone what's happening. Don't let them make slaves of us all. I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      ROFLMAF! Yeah Youtube is also my source for authorative facts

      Buy your Ameros now, before the price goes up!

      Ameros are in circulation now

      These will be released by the US mint soon!
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      • Profile picture of the author Roar
        Actually a lot of the Youtube videos are from shows on MSNBC, CNBC, Bloomberg, Fox and some from the religious fringe. Some say the Amero is a hoax, an urban legend of sorts, but some financial pundits are warning of the dollars collapse, even if they don't agree with the Amero thing.

        Don't let arrogance or reluctance to hear what may sound like science fiction at first deter you from getting the facts and deciding for yourself.
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      • Profile picture of the author reapr
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        ROFLMAF! Yeah Youtube is also my source for authorative facts

        Buy your Ameros now, before the price goes up!

        Ameros are in circulation now

        These will be released by the US mint soon!
        Well dang just when I thought WitOpedia was the authority on everything ....
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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          Conspiracy Believers Needed for Cognitive Dissonance Experiment

          This research is being conducted at the Cognitive Dissonance Research Laboratory in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Scientists at the Cognitive Dissonance Research Laboratory announced recently the first successful test of a dramatic new method for generating clean, renewable energy using excess power from the human brain. The technique, dubbed Neural Oscillatory Telegenesis (NOT), employs, in the words of chief researcher Alonzo Pinq, "cognitive dissonance, the source of a nearly constant supply of powerful, unused human brainwave activity" to generate virtually limitless quantities of emissions-free electricity.

          "While conventional global energy supplies such as oil, natural gas, coal, nuclear power and so forth have been dwindling or falling out of favor due to their impact on the environment, geopolitics, security issues, and the threat of global warming, a new resource has been growing astronomically," Dr. Pinq said.

          "That supply is cognitive dissonance--the brain energy created when human beings attempt or are forced to hold two or more separate and contradictory thoughts or beliefs in the mind simultaneously. Living in a so-called state of denial is perhaps the most classic example. So are the thought processes behind most forms of advertising and conspiracy theories."

          "The best part is that if not dissipated through rational inquiry or changes in behavior, as is most often isn't, this is completely useless brain energy--it's a by-product," Dr. Pinq continued. "It's like having a car with two engines and two pairs of drive wheels facing each other from the front and the back, each running at full throttle. We can insert our technology into the middle -- like where the center nine cupholders would be on an SUV, say -- grab this energy and use it to power a clean, emissions-free turbine. The brains involved won't notice a thing."

          The NOT energy can be harnessed via a simple cap-like device worn on the skull above the hair; or, as in the case of many politicians, beneath a power toupee. Energy is transferred to a thin tube down the wearer's back and converted to a viscous "gray goop", according to Dr. Pinq, collected in a comfortable power pouch worn around the midsection.

          "Dissonants who fail to consciously relate overeating and lack of exercise to their obesity will hardly notice it," Dr. Pinq said.

          The gray goop, which has an energy content more than 10,000 times that of oil and is emissions-free, can then be collected and burned in retrofitted conventional turbines to generate electricity.

          According to Dr. Pinq, political, religious, environmental, social and scientific developments over the past decade have combined to create "a level of dissonance unsurpassed in at least the previous century, if ever."

          "The popularity of conspiracy theories is a perfect example," Dr. James Thimble, who performed early research for the study, said, "people continue to believe in conspiracy theories despite all the logical evidence to the contrary."

          "For example, some believers cling to the theory that a figurative horde of millions of little green Martian scientists or something, technicians, environmentalists, politicians, businessmen, sane people, etc around the world are somehow working in a coordinated effort to dupe an obtuse and unsuspecting public."

          A common reaction by most people to cognitive dissonance, at least in the past, would have been to seek out new information or ideas that can resolve the internal conflict in the brain, for instance when existing beliefs are proved wrong in the face of incontrovertible evidence. Alternative beliefs based on the new information provide a "consonance" that resolves the cognitive conflict, generally leading to happier, healthier mental lives and less erratic and irrational behavior.

          "Luckily for those of us in the power industry, many Americans especially have by now been conditioned to accept a persistent conflict between what they choose to believe, and what is proven fact, as some sort of 'fact of life', or simply as a prerequisite for maintaining a kind of mildly schizophrenic comfort level within their social sphere. That's fine with us--more gray goop for the turbines," Dr. Thimble said.

          Another example of cognitive dissonance, according to Dr. Thimble, lies in the multiple paradoxes inherent in many religious beliefs.

          "When people experience a terrible disease, for example," Dr. Thimble said, "and pray for it to go away, and they are in fact cured, they may believe their prayers have been answered. They don't seem to consciously consider that if the omnipresent, omnipotent force to which they prayed did indeed possess the power and will to end the disease, then that same force, or God, or what-have-you, must obviously be the same one that caused or allowed them to be infected in the first place. Unconsciously, though, their brain goes right on working and makes that connection. Part of their mind knows, but their beliefs tell them otherwise. Bingo. Goop-time."

          According to Dr. Pinq, intelligence is not a factor in the amount of energy that can be created by cognitive dissonance--in fact, in many cases, the reverse is true.

          "Former president George W. Bush's cognitive dissonance alone, for example," Dr. Pinq said, "can produce about the equivalent of a small-scale hydroelectric plant, according to our preliminary measurements. If we can get him to wear the hat, that will have the happy side effect of increasing output even more, since he still won't believe it works even as we light up half of Kennebunkport with his goop."

          The NOT project, however, is not without its critics. 2008 Republican presidential also-ran Mike Huckabee, who held a press conference together with failed 2008 Republican presidential candidate Sam Brownback to denounce the project, was vociferous in his opposition:

          "This kind of NOT stuff is the same kind of heretical thinking that led us Americans to the tragedy that people in this day and age is allowed to teach our children--our children!--that we was descended from some kind of a monkey instead of created by God 6,000 years ago like the Bible says. I ain't descended from no monkey," former Governor Huckabee hooted from a chair back while distractedly nibbling on lice plucked from the toupee of Senator Brownback.

          "About 82 potential kilowatts generated," Dr. Pinq said.

          Members of the NOT project have formed a corporation that plans to produce and market NOT energy, initially during a small-scale, short-term startup phase.

          "We're currently seeking high-output cognitive dissonants who would be willing, on a remunerative basis, of course, to participate in the initial rollout," Drew Shu, a vice president with NOT Energy Systems, said.

          "We're particularly interested in the following kinds of individuals who have high NOT energy levels; believers in conspiracy theories".
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          • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
            That's what it is all about. Freedom of speech and thought.

            Some valid points but lacking in factual sources of accounts and events, generally foull of holes.

            It all reminds of how the former great Galileo must have felt when he put forth his conspiracy theory that the world was indeed round and not flat.

            "Galileo's championing of Copernicanism was controversial within his lifetime. The geocentric view had been dominant since the time of Aristotle, and the controversy engendered by Galileo's presentation of heliocentrism as proven fact resulted in the Catholic Church's prohibiting its advocacy as empirically proven fact, because it was not empirically proven at the time and was contrary to the literal meaning of Scripture.[7] Galileo was eventually forced to recant his heliocentrism and spent the last years of his life under house arrest on orders of the Roman Inquisition."

            As history has shown us that the world is indeed round and eventually enough people took a look at the facts, the science and evidence to eventually have the masses agreed to an all already existing truth.


            And let's not forget what happened to Dr. Harvey when in 1628, he announced to the world and the worlds medical doctors.

            What happened?

            A another conspirator presenting truth, science and empirical facts to only be scorned, hounded and snobbed at by the worlds medical authorities who all "knew" that was absurd.

            "This clashed with the accepted model going back to Galen, who identified venous (dark red) and arterial (brighter and thinner) blood, each with distinct and separate functions."


            It's unfortunate. But history has shown us time after time, that to stand before men and speak what is truth, backed by science, empirically observed, and real as the ground beneath one's feet, still gets scorned at, scoffed at and shunned as another one of those... CONSPIRATORS.

            Yes, there is certainly safety in numbers and that seems to apply to the truth as well.

            History will yet again tell the story but how it unfolds will be entirely up to each and every one of us, willing to look, feel and no matter how uncomfortable, consider looking at the truth and holding those in charge accountable for their actions as we all are held in living our lives.

            -Rob
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            • Profile picture of the author myob
              Originally Posted by smartcookie View Post

              That's what it is all about. Freedom of speech and thought.

              Some valid points but lacking in factual sources of accounts and events, generally foull of holes.

              It all reminds of how the former great Galileo must have felt when he put forth his conspiracy theory that the world was indeed round and not flat.
              THAT was not a "conspiracy theory" LOL! Keep stretching, the truth with snap.
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              • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
                Originally Posted by myob View Post

                THAT was not a "conspiracy theory" LOL! Keep stretching, the truth with snap.

                And how do you know that there weren't supporters in their theories?

                Surely one other than the main candidate.


                The point is that the world was and will remain forever round.

                That his views and ideas went totally against the grain and controlling interests and that would have been such a slap in the face but either one went back on their words, their facts and figures.

                And this brings me to the point that in tending after sheep it only requires one shepherd to guide and herd the flock.

                There's always safety in numbers and history shows that the few guide the many, and in the cases of JFK, Martin Luther King, Abraham Lincoln and even John Lennon, standing up to the tyranny that controls this planet cost their lives.

                The truth will always set you free,
                -Rob
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    • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
      Originally Posted by Roar View Post

      I'm not nor ever have been into those conspiracy theories. My whole life I've been a conservative Republican. Used to be I'd laugh at these things. But over the past few years I've seen, read and heard things that have changed my perspective.

      I have been watching this for a few weeks now on Youtube. The Amero, the Trilateral/New World Order conspiracy, how Bush & the other politicians have sold us down the river because they are part of the elite few who truly control the world. Forget about political parties, they're two sides of the same coin. There are a few hundred people/families who control us.

      This is all true. It's like gravity, whether you believe it or not you will fall if you jump off a building. We are all falling whether you know it or not and most people are just sleep walking through it all so they don't know or care.

      The question is, what can we do about it? Do you really think Obama is going to help us? Why do you think he won? Did you notice how much more money & support he had over McCain? They wanted him in office for a reason or he wouldn't be there. They (the ruling families, NWO, Tri-laterals, whatever you want to call them) decide who will be our president.

      Obama's our new president because he's going along with the plan or he's there to divide us or to make things so much more desperately worse that we'd be willing to do anything to get back what we lost. But of course once they have total control, the New World Order, they will never give it back.

      Food & drinking water riots in the U.S.? Ridiculous. Wait. Need a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread? Hogwash. Wait. The ruling families such as the Rothchildes (the architects of this plan going back generations) owning our land so that we are nothing more than serfs. Ludicrous. Wait and see.

      Go to Youtube & search for the Amero, the New World Order, the economic collapse and watch all the videos, especially "The Most Important Video Ever! Must Watch". It is in 29 parts but it is compelling. It is made by people you may call conspiracy nuts but most will call me & others conspiracy nuts. Go back to sleep & believe your political party leaders and I'll see you on the bread line or the battle line, depending on how bad we get.

      Let us not take this lying down. Let us at least tell them we know what they're up to and we're not going to go quietly. Wake up! Tell everyone what's happening. Don't let them make slaves of us all. I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.

      Bloody well said Roar!

      Look! I am not even American but this manipulation by the few of the many, decent folks of our planet keeps me up late at nights getting the word out.

      The POINT to look at is how open the current world leaders, the Federal Reserve, wall st have been recently in calling for a NWO and World currency.

      People who doubt should take the advice and look at the information that is out on the net about this and listen to the experts who are warning the US about whats coming.

      The Great Depression is nothing compared to what is on the way courtesy of the International Bankers ad infinitum.

      Watch and listen to Senator RonPaul and see what he is saying about the current US crisis and what could be done about it.

      But as with all great movements and changes in man's history, the burden falls on the few to help and care for the many.

      -Rob
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeremy123
        I don't know if the Amero is real, but simple supply and demand
        tells me the more there is of something the lower its value because
        there is so much of it.

        The Fed has printed too many dollars. Who knows how many dollars are out there.
        Plus I've heard reports the US is in debt5 trillion or maybe it is 52 trillion $$.

        Nobody in the US gov. has clearly laid out the entire financial crisis landscape,
        we keep getting bits and pieces.
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  • Profile picture of the author James_Harkin
    To see truely how banks work, watch this 47 minute documentary Money As Debt:


    That should show anyone how the basic banking system works.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
      Financial expert --Max Keiser says it all here.


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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        The POINT to look at is how open the current world leaders, the Federal Reserve, wall st have been recently in calling for a NWO and World currency.
        I haven't seen anyone on wall st or in the federal reserve recently calling for either of those two things. They have stated, and correctly, that world currencies are tied together more than ever - but that's clear without saying anything.

        People who doubt should take the advice and look at the information that is out on the net about this and listen to the experts who are warning the US about whats coming.
        Getting news from the internet is a crap shoot with most of that "news" presented from the view of someone with an agenda or partisan politics - or simply rumor expounded.

        The Amero hoax has been posted about regularly for several years. If you like conspiracies that depend on a major change being forced on 300 million people in the US - secretly - I guess it's as good a conspiraqcy as any.
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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          You can convert all your dollars into Ameros right now.

          Convert Dollars Into Ameros

          Exchange all of your dollars for Ameros voluntarily now, or you will be forced to pay much more later by the big bad Amero cartel. Tell your friends and neighbors: Trade all of your dollars for Ameros now, before it's too late.

          Hurry because in three months the dollar will be totally worthless. After that, however, you can just send your trashed dollars to me, and I will recycle them.
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          • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
            Paul, some people don't get your sarcasm I'm afraid.

            Originally Posted by myob View Post

            You can convert all your dollars into Ameros right now.

            Convert Dollars Into Ameros

            Exchange all of your dollars for Ameros voluntarily now, or you will be forced to pay much more later by the big bad Amero cartel. Tell your friends and neighbors: Trade all of your dollars for Ameros now, before it's too late.

            Hurry because in three months the dollar will be totally worthless. After that, however, you can just send your trashed dollars to me, and I will recycle them.
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            • Profile picture of the author myob
              LOL! The Amero hoax is the most persistent joke ever started by pranksters. Daniel Carr has been selling Ameros for years on his website: Buy Your Ameros Here Now

              He is a numisatic designer, and has in fact designed several of the United States' commemorative state quarters that are now in circulation. This is the most brilliant marketing phenomena that I have ever seen.

              In reality the cost of converting over $1 trillion in US currency and about the same for Canadian and Mexican currency that is now in circulation would cost over 250 TRILLION Ameros. (That is a LOT of dollars)

              What most of these "conspiracy" theorists do not understand is that the US dollar is already the defacto accepted currency in many parts of the world including Mexico, South America, the Caribbean, China, Eastern Europe, etc. Changing to Amero would change this dynamic adversely in economies worldwide.

              But, the joke continues to go on and on. Year in, year out. And Daniel Carr and other sellers of Amero tokens are laughing all the way to the bank. Their bank account balances are listed as US DOLLARS, not Ameros. Millions of them
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              • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
                Originally Posted by myob View Post

                LOL! The Amero hoax is the most persistent joke ever started by pranksters. Daniel Carr has been selling Ameros for years on his website: Buy Your Ameros Here Now

                He is a numisatic designer, and has in fact designed several of the United States' commemorative state quarters that are now in circulation. This is the most brilliant marketing phenomena that I have ever seen.

                In reality the cost of converting over $1 trillion in US currency and about the same for Canadian and Mexican currency that is now in circulation would cost over 250 TRILLION Ameros. (That is a LOT of dollars)

                What most of these "conspiracy" theorists do not understand is that the US dollar is already the defacto accepted currency in many parts of the world including Mexico, South America, the Caribbean, China, Eastern Europe, etc. Changing to Amero would change this dynamic adversely in economies worldwide.

                But, the joke continues to go on and on. Year in, year out. And Daniel Carr and other sellers of Amero tokens are laughing all the way to the bank. Their bank account balances are listed as US DOLLARS, not Ameros. Millions of them

                In all fairness. What you are stating has some truth about it but in reality it leaves out the meat of the current global situation.

                Facts of the matter are:

                1) The Treaty for the North American Union has been signed by all three countries. US, Canada and Mexico.

                2) The Amero has been produced and ready for implementation, once the US and Globe experience the financial slaughter is about to take place. All orchestrated by the International Banksters and their thugs.

                One only needs to look at the congressional committee on what Hank Paulson and his comrades at Goldmansachs have done with the recent "Bailout." They openly admit to lying and stealing from the American taxpayers---not to help the tax payer but to pocket the cash themselves and their banking buddies.

                3) Experts and even your own congressmen-Ron Paul state that the money system of the Federal Reserve Bank being privately owned and not under government control to be the core problem.

                4) China, Japan and Russia hold over 3 Trillion USD in Cash reserves. And if you missed their recent calls for a New Financial World Order....I can only suggest that you go and check out Fox News, Bloomberg or some other such conspiratory sites.

                Why are they calling for such changes if everybody is so dandy and confident about the US Dollar??

                It smells fishy, almost the smell of a Bankster.

                5) Gerald Celente predicts riots and deep depression for the US.

                I suppose with his sound and proven record he would just be considered another Conspiratorist or worst Fear Monger.

                Something the American governement along with their masters--The Banksters would never do it their loyal subjects.

                6) I could go on. But why bother.

                I think it's best for those who might see want to read between all the lines go and investigate for themselves.

                Heck, it's all there and the worst part is that the Banksters aren't making it all a secret any more.

                After all, if they can steal Trillions from the coffers of the US treasury right under the noses of it's people, Congress and elected officials, then it only goes to show, who is in control.

                Get prepared by getting the facts of the entire matter.

                The ship is sinking and those who survive this disaster are the ones who get prepared.

                Kind regards,
                Rob
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              • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
                Paul, I'm thinking that there has to be some way for us to take advantage of this as well, even if we aren't coin designers. Lets do some brainstorming on how to take advantage of this new currency. T-shirts? E-books? Paid membership sites? Lets put our heads together marketers.

                Originally Posted by myob View Post

                LOL! The Amero hoax is the most persistent joke ever started by pranksters. Daniel Carr has been selling Ameros for years on his website: Buy Your Ameros Here Now
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                • Profile picture of the author myob
                  I can think of three ebooks that can written for immediate profits and affiliate program:

                  101 Things To Do With Your Worthless Canadian Dollars
                  101 Things To Do With Your Worthless United States Dollars
                  101 Things To Do With Your Worthless Pesos

                  Sell these ebooks in the appropriate markets for suggested retail price $49.95 (US Dollars only of course)

                  Offer Master Resale Rights ($50 more - US Dollars only) which contains affiliate links to dispose of worthless currencies.

                  Free Bonus Number 1: T-Shirt with a full color photo of a REAL Amero
                  Free Bonus Number 2: Free One Year Membership in the Amero users club.
                  Free Bonus Number 3: 50% Affiliate Program (paid in Ameros)

                  LOL!
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        • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          I haven't seen anyone on wall st or in the federal reserve recently calling for either of those two things. They have stated, and correctly, that world currencies are tied together more than ever - but that's clear without saying anything.



          Getting news from the internet is a crap shoot with most of that "news" presented from the view of someone with an agenda or partisan politics - or simply rumor expounded.

          The Amero hoax has been posted about regularly for several years. If you like conspiracies that depend on a major change being forced on 300 million people in the US - secretly - I guess it's as good a conspiraqcy as any.


          Well, I guess that we are all entitled to our opinions. But, when these experts are telling you repeatedly then one might want to re-evaluate one's own thoughts about a subject.

          Unfortunately, many people, fall into the "Our government is looking after us." mentality and swallow whole...bait,line and sinker what the corporate media are spewing out on the airwaves.

          The Amero ain't a conspiracy. It's coming. And just with any other disasters. The ones who are prepared will fare better than the victims who are caught well off-guard.

          Here's Gerald Celente- Expert in Economic/Social Trends. Not a conspiracist.

          Just a realist.




          -Rob
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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            I agree with Calente on this quote:

            Greenspan has successfully piloted the nation into virtual insolvency. In fact, the parallels between our present situation and the period preceding the Great Depression are striking. Just as massive debt was accumulating in the market from the purchase of stocks "on margin", so too, mortgage debt between 2000 and 2006 soared from $4.8 trillion to $9.5 trillion. In both cases the "wealth effect" spawned a spending spree which looked like growth but was really the steady, insidious expansion of debt which generated economic activity. In both periods wages were either flat or declining and the gap between rich and working class was growing more extreme by the year.
            I don't think many people realize just how deep the precipice is we're currently balancing on - and don't think anyone in government knows how to pull us back from it.

            I think there may come a time when an international currency will be used - it's the "amero" specifically that I don't agree with. Calente's theory is that times will get so bad that citizens of the US will agree to anything if they think it will improve the economy. That is a possibility but doesn't mean the amero is the only possible answer.

            kay
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            • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
              Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

              I agree with Calente on this quote:



              I don't think many people realize just how deep the precipice is we're currently balancing on - and don't think anyone in government knows how to pull us back from it.

              I think there may come a time when an international currency will be used - it's the "amero" specifically that I don't agree with. Calente's theory is that times will get so bad that citizens of the US will agree to anything if they think it will improve the economy. That is a possibility but doesn't mean the amero is the only possible answer.

              kay

              Sorry to put it to you in an unfront manner. BUT the Amero isn't something that is going to be agreed upon.

              The International BankSters have already decided that it is going to be the Nth American currency and it is already available for purchase.

              Just as they have done so with the Bank bailout that's now blown into the Trillions and all behind closed doors and no accountability.

              Check out the link above. Or just Google it. You can actually see the coin and get the full story.

              As for Celente being the Top trend analysis he isn't the only one, who states that the US is heading for a DEEP depression followed by some, very, very tough times.

              Americans need to pull their heads out of the sand and take a look around them before it's too late.

              It's a bit like the Titanic.

              Nobody thought it was sinkable either.

              And we all know how that movie ended.

              -Rob
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  • Profile picture of the author somn
    I do not have full idea about this but so far no strong sign for this and I do not think that USA and other countries will take a chance for it.

    I do feel that this is just the rumour and nothing else.
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  • Profile picture of the author James_Harkin
    Why not create an ebook about how you can make your devalued US Dollars go further. By budgeting and planning for a possible deep depression or another natural disaster or terrorist act. Plan for the worst and you will be pleasantly surprised if things aren't so bad.

    For example, worst case scenario ... no food ... no electricity & no water. How would you cope? Survive on FEMA rations and government handouts?

    People are turning to the Internet to generate some extra revenue in these hard times, people are scared about keeping their jobs & paying their bills. They know its out of their hands whether they are necessary labour or not, in a recession. A lot of people are worried about the current economic crisis as well as what the future might hold. How about writing an ebook about how anyone can survive by planning for the worst, to protect themselves and their family.

    I guarantee, if marketed right, that ebook would sell.

    Oh btw, worst case scenario did occur, check these sites out:

    NostradamusOnline.com :: World War III Predictions Revealed

    Midas Resources - Gold & Silver Coins

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    Don't have nightmares, plan ahead

    Regards

    James
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Damn! We're getting some good ideas here so far! I particularly liked:

      NostradamusOnline.com :: World War III Predictions Revealed

      I always liked Nostradamus. To me he is the first to, well, the first to really BS about the future. It takes a lot of guts to really bs about something you don't know about.

      and

      101 Things To Do With Your Worthless United States Dollars

      Now, there is a huge market. According to Indiana it will be three months until they, the US dollars, are worthless. This could be huge on clickbank! I see many affiliates! Just imagine Paul, people paying dollars, to learn how to get ready for a non dollar economy AND a NWO!
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    • Profile picture of the author JFrost
      You can sit back and say everything's honkydory and the US will buy us out of the depression buttttttttt History is simply repeating it self because no one knows their history or wants to. Amerios will come and sooner than you think. What the US Government is doing economically now has proven several times in the past to ruin the currency. Never in the history of mankind has it improved the economy.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeremy123
        fyi, I'm living in China, saw a talk show where they interviewed Baron David Rothschild,
        guess he is looking to invest. Nothing too revealing that we don't already know, just interesting to see.

        Also news here says China has been getting more orders from Western countries.

        conspiracy theories true, I don't know.
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  • Profile picture of the author Roar
    You know, I think you guys are missing the point. Forget about the damned amero. Whether or not it is real is not important. The fact that life as we know it, Americans that is, is over is what I'm trying to get across.

    If you watched the clips above and others on youtube - not the conspiracy clips, though there are scary facts in those - but the clips from MSNBC, CNBC, FOX and BLOOMBERG, et al. A good number of respected, main stream financial experts are warning of the coming crisis.

    We in the U.S. are going to see some dark, terrifying times before it gets any better, if it ever does. Please look at the warnings and research the facts. It is frightening and no one seems to be hearing the message.

    You can joke about the amero and it is in fact a good idea for an ebook or two but don't think for a minute any of us are ever going to get through this coming disaster unscathed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
      Originally Posted by Roar View Post

      You know, I think you guys are missing the point. Forget about the damned amero. Whether or not it is real is not important. The fact that life as we know it, Americans that is, is over is what I'm trying to get across.

      If you watched the clips above and others on youtube - not the conspiracy clips, though there are scary facts in those - but the clips from MSNBC, CNBC, FOX and BLOOMBERG, et al. A good number of respected, main stream financial experts are warning of the coming crisis.

      We in the U.S. are going to see some dark, terrifying times before it gets any better, if it ever does. Please look at the warnings and research the facts. It is frightening and no one seems to be hearing the message.

      You can joke about the amero and it is in fact a good idea for an ebook or two but don't think for a minute any of us are ever going to get through this coming disaster unscathed.
      Well bloody said Roar. Look, I`m an aussie and it`s not going to be as bad as what is being predicted for the US.

      With some due diligence, one can make an intelligent decision about how to help themselves and help their families when the crunch comes.

      Of course make money, but if you aren`t able to look into the future by looking at todays known stats and facts then, you ain`t going to be making much of anything.

      Ebooks on survival issues. Maybe research the great depression and see what was wanted and needed by all those unemployed and hungry Americans.

      According to Gerald Celente. A return to essential basics will be happening in the US. Don`t forget, this guy has been right more than wrong with his forecasts.

      I personally would be happy and am happy to see that there are other warriors here who are onto what is taking place...not just in the US but globaly.

      Once the US falls then we all cop-it in the ass, one by one by the same Banksters.

      An informed and ready people are needed if we are going to survive whats coming for us around the corner.

      Didn`t Citibank lay off 50,000 workers last week?

      The signs are there.

      Wake-Up and wake up your fellow brothers and sisters before the backwash of the sinking Titanic sucks them under.

      -Rob
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  • Profile picture of the author James_Harkin
    The powers in my locality want to fluoride in our drinking water supply, however their plans are not going so well with a lot of top anti-fluoride people coming to our aid:

    Fluoride Action Network


    This is happening in the town next to mine, so if it happens there, it's going to happen in mine, so its time for me to help get that thrown out.

    Regards

    James
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      There is also another conspiracy that could affect the world's entire supply of chocolate. A number of retail grocery stores have filed suit against Big Chocolate for alleged price-fixing conspiracy, adding to an already large number of suits that have been filed since US and Canadian government investigations into alleged price fixing of chocolate was revealed. The industry is controlled by a cartel known as the Chocalistas - operating on the dark side of Big Chocolate.

      Retailers filing suit against Big Chocolate include Safeway, Kroger, Walgreen, Hy-Vee, Meijer, Publix, CVS, Rite Aid, Food Lion, Kash N' Karry, Hannaford Bros. (which itself became the subject of numerous recent lawsuits because of a data security breach).

      Investigations have been launched by Canada, the U.S., and Germany known as the Giant Eagle Chocolate coalition. The Giant Eagle complaint alleges a number of facts taken from documents filed in a Canadian government investigation, including statements by unnamed cooperating witnesses about secret meetings and communications between chocolate makers. The complaint states that the party cooperating with the coalition is believed to be Cadbury.

      Without the factual allegations from the unnamed sources, the complaint would be unlikely to survive a motion to dismiss under the Twombly pleading standard. Other than the allegations from the coalition investigation, the complaint includes allegations such as the industry being "ripe for collusion" because: the industry is highly-concentrated; there are high barriers to entry; the product is an undifferentiated commodity; and the industry is facing increasing demand by women with PMS and profits generated by claims of cardiovascular benefits of consuming chocolate on a daily basis. The complaint also alleges that there were parallel price increases, and that the stated reasons for the price increases were conspiratorial linking to the Chocalistas.

      While many businesses focus on defensive litigation as their workers become increasingly obese, the Chocolate lobby in Washington DC heavily promotes the cardivascular health and physiological benefit of chocolate consumption. Bribery and corruption continue in the House and Senate as the Chocalistas continue their goal of global domination of dark chocolate.

      If the Chocalistas succeed in their quest for global domination of chocolate, it will cost the North American Union mucho Ameros for le plaque de chocolat. The high cost of chocolate will send the economies of Mexico, United States, and Canada down a deep, dark, slippery slope, and will make the banking conspiracy look like a picnic.

      When you put flouridated water into the mix, with the Big Chocolate conspiracy, the Banksters, Ameros, New World Order, end of times and all; we are really all in big trouble. The only thing that can put an end to this will be that huge asteroid expected to impact earth on Dec 21, 2012 and wipe out everything. Then there will be peace in the world.

      PS How much do you think I could sell my new book for? It's called How to Survive the End of the World.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
        It all depends on how many pages are contained the book?

        I have to say, you know how to spin a great yarn.

        You've got talent.

        -Rob
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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          How much do you think I could sell my new book for? It's called How to Survive the End of the World

          Originally Posted by smartcookie View Post

          It all depends on how many pages are contained the book?

          I have to say, you know how to spin a great yarn.

          You've got talent.

          -Rob
          LMAO!

          You are very good at spinning a yarn yourself there, smartcookie; about the New World Order, North American Union, Ameros, and the great economic conspiracy of the banksters. Very impressive. Trouble is, this is actually just an old yarn that has been spinning around the internet for several years. It's old and getting pretty stale. We need a fresh conspiracy like Big Chocolate taking over the world! The Deep Dark Secret of Chocolate! Wanta bite

          Now,for a book on How to Survive the End of the World, does it really matter how many pages it contains at any price?
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          • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
            Originally Posted by myob View Post

            How much do you think I could sell my new book for? It's called How to Survive the End of the World



            LMAO!

            You are very good at spinning a yarn yourself there, smartcookie; about the New World Order, North American Union, Ameros, and the great economic conspiracy of the banksters. Very impressive. Trouble is, this is actually just an old yarn that has been spinning around the internet for several years. It's old and getting pretty stale. We need a fresh conspiracy like Big Chocolate taking over the world! The Deep Dark Secret of Chocolate! Wanta bite

            Now,for a book on How to Survive the End of the World, does it really matter how many pages it contains at any price?
            Paul.

            Well let`s me see how my conspiracy story is panning out.....

            1. Wall St Banksters steal Trillions from the US coffers and taxpayers and ain`t going to disclose a thing about where that money goes.

            Oh yeah...I forget to mention that this was after 95% of it`s citizens called their congressmen to not approve it

            2. Millions of homes in the US are under mortgage problems, defaults at record levels and no help from the bail out...all courtesy of the Banksters.

            3. Iceland recently as a country goes broke and is the first european country to borrow from the IMF (International Monetary Fund)

            Just who owns the IMF? Oh Yeah, the International Banksters (Rothchilds, Warlburgs, Rockefeller etc)

            4. The Federal reserve and all central banks are owned by the very Banksters who tell our governments what to do.

            That`s why you won`t find the Federal reserve listed under the goverment listigns in phone books.

            Unfortunately, the US Gov stopped priniting money long time ago and with the 1913 Reserve Act, the Bankster took over the reigns and have been printing money eversince and charging the gov and it`s tax payers for the honor.

            5. The US has a 9 Trillion deficit. Who is that money owed to? Mainly, the Banksters, China, Japan, India and Russia.

            6. Elite groups such as the
            Trilateral Commission
            Builderburg group
            Bohemian Grove
            Skull and Bones
            Club of Rome

            etc all exist.

            In fact back in 2004, both Presidential candiates (Kerry & Bush) openly admit to being members of this secretive group, which recruits about 15 members each year at Yale.

            Heres the interview:


            Now, what does that tell you? Two members of a secretive Yale group are both running for the Hot seat.

            I guess it just might be a coincidence though.

            What do you think Paul?

            Oh yeah, here are some experts in the field who all state that the Banksters and the current system is at the core problem for the glabal crisis.

            Max Keiser

            Peter Sciff

            Gerald Celente


            And no Paul, I didn`t make up these names nor do I have the talent to fabricate and direct what they say about the financial situation of the US and the Globe.

            The band on the Titanic are still playing as the ship is doomed and gradually sinks into the abyss.

            What you choose to do with the realities of and fate of current circumstances are entirely in your hands.

            But, I believe that I will continue to spread the current financial/global conspiracy as oppossed to a chocolate one.

            I can live without chocolate.

            I can`t live without freedom, money, democracy and the truth.

            -Rob
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            • Profile picture of the author myob
              Originally Posted by smartcookie View Post

              Paul.

              Well let`s me see how my conspiracy story is panning out.....

              I can live without chocolate.

              I can`t live without freedom, money, democracy and the truth.

              -Rob
              There will be nothing left but chocolate. THAT is the deep dark secret conspiracy; no freedom, no money, no democracy, and no truth. Some may think this is all bullshit, but it's really just chocolate everywhere you step.
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              • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
                Originally Posted by myob View Post

                There will be nothing left but chocolate. THAT is the deep dark secret conspiracy; no freedom, no money, no democracy, and no truth. Some may think this is all bullshit, but it's really just chocolate everywhere you step.


                I wish I could laughingly laugh at all this in tongue and cheek.

                But just as in the Matrix film...

                Not everyone gets to save their fellows from their imprisonment.

                And I guess the movie would not have been as cool if Neo choose the
                Blue Pill.

                In fact. It would have sucked big time.

                Enjoy the sweet tasting chocolate while it lasts buddy.

                -Rob
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by HarveyJ View Post

      Question: What is the point of selling eBooks to people that are unlikely to be able to hold onto their computers?

      Further Question: If American dollars so going to be worthless, why are you still looking in ways to be paid in American dollars?

      Counter point: I've been getting my payouts in Euro for the past 2 years. I'm sitting pretty.
      The real secret is there will never be an Amero, and the dollar will remain the defacto currency for dozens of countries. But don't tell anybody, because that will spoil the "conspiracy" and affiliates could lose sales.
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    10 years ago who even knew what a gps was?
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by KimW View Post

      10 years ago who even knew what a gps was?
      GPS has actually been around since 1978, but I started to think about having one for my car ever since it became available for civilian use in 1993. It was very expensive back then, but around 1998 it was beginning to become commercially available for ships and trucking companies. I thought this would never be used on cars ... boy was I wrong.
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      • Profile picture of the author KimW
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        GPS has actually been around since 1978, but I wanted one for my car ever since it became available for civilian use in 1993. It was very expensive back then. I though this would never happen ... boy was I wrong.
        True- but the question was,,,who knew?? Obviously you did,but many didn't.

        I am a firm believer that the technology that most people see are about 20 years behind what military intelligence is working on........
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    • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
      Yep it`s changing. 10 years ago only a few individuals believed that our planet is being controlled by the few elites.

      Now, the numbers are swelling. Thank god for the internet and freedom of speech.
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Originally Posted by smartcookie View Post

        Yep it`s changing. 10 years ago only a few individuals believed that our planet is being controlled by the few elites.

        Now, the numbers are swelling. Thank god for the internet and freedom of speech.
        The world DOES keep changing, I remember thinking back just 1 year ago that I have not heard a good conspiracy theory ... boy was I wrong.

        In 1798 John Robinson wrote "Proofs of a Conspiracy" which included much of the same stuff here. He made a fortune selling that book, and now the "conspiracy" niche is a multi-billion dollar business. Let's keep it going and make up some better ones. Spread the word!
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        • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
          Yeh, I think this period will be looked back upon years from now as "the golden age" of conspiracy theories. We are lucky to live in a time where there is such an abundance of good ones.
          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          The world DOES keep changing, I remember thinking back just 1 year ago that I have not heard a good conspiracy theory ... boy was I wrong.
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            Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

            Yeh, I think this period will be looked back upon years from now as "the golden age" of conspiracy theories. We are lucky to live in a time where there is such an abundance of good ones.
            Well I suppose many prefer a good conspiracy to a war, a blood bath of men, women and children.

            I believe that we are yet to hit the Golden Age of wisdom.

            It's around the corner.

            But, if you still need some help on what is being done to countries, Google and look at the bread lines that are starting to form in Iceland.

            Unless, we do something to make our leaders accountable, then corporate takeover of countries will prevail as it has been doing.

            Or is it just coincidence that....

            1. Bushes and Bin Ladens were, are and in fact still do business together?
            2. Vice Preident Cheney was CEO of Haliburton and still receives a nice fat check from there.
            3. Bushes younger brother, ran the security company for the Twin towers.
            4. Bush Snr, meet with Bin Laden's brother on the morning of 9/11.
            5. That Americas debt went from 1 trillion to over 8 trillion while Bush and his cronies have been at the helm.
            6. That back in 2004, both Senator Kerry and Bush admitted that both were members of the secret society at Yale University called Skulls & Bones. (On video)
            7. Larry Silverstein made over 7 billion from insurance claims on the WTCs attacks.
            8. That the only 3 steel framed buildings in the world to have collapsed from fire happened on 9/11, and perfectly into their own basement, as any other well controlled demolition.
            9. Silverstein bought the buildings 6 weeks prior to the attack for a down-payment of about 14 million dollars.
            10. That the US gov and CIA has been caught out smuggling cocaine and other contra-bands into the US which they got the money from selling arms to Iranians back in 1986.
            11. The US bank note is a Federal Reserve Note which is not back by anything substantial other than more paper printed by the privately owned Fed Reserve.


            Man the list just goes on and on and on.

            Don't they teach you how to think for yourself in the US?

            A recent survey asked a bunch of Americans in LA what year did 9/11 occur. About 1 answered correctly.

            The same guy asked what was Angelina's babies name and all answered perfectly.

            It's well past the time to wake-up and take a look around my fellow warriors.
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            • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
              I see you also are a so called 9-11 truther. Not surprising. I've spent too much time arguing this here, but basically it's another total BS conspiracy theory some people like you have fallen for. You are the one who needs to wake up.

              Sure, there has been corruption in the Bush admin and in other admins. Beside being corrupt they are inept, arrogant, and liars. I'm not a fan of the Bush admin and I have said before they took advantage of 9-11 to start the Iraq war which is just about as bad as being directly responsible for 9-11. However, I have to deal with reality and that shows that Al Qaeda was directly responsible for 9-11. I suppose you think the secrete "elite" were responsible for the terror attacks in India.

              Sure the wealthy have more power than the poor. This isn't anything new. This has been the story since the beginning of civilization. The rich and powerful have always ruled. Big conspiracy there.

              BTW, yes Silverstein had insurance. People usually do for buildings. However I believe if you look at the numbers he only got about $4 billion and it will cost $6 billion to rebuild, and he is paying $120 million a year lease to the port authority while ground zero is being rebuilt and not making any income. Not really a good deal is it?

              I do prefer a good conspiracy to a war. There are wars though and I like to try to understand why they really are going on. Maybe you should try that also and stop listening to infowars.

              Originally Posted by smartcookie View Post

              Well I suppose many prefer a good conspiracy to a war, a blood bath of men, women and children.

              I believe that we are yet to hit the Golden Age of wisdom.

              It's around the corner.

              But, if you still need some help on what is being done to countries, Google and look at the bread lines that are starting to form in Iceland.

              Unless, we do something to make our leaders accountable, then corporate takeover of countries will prevail as it has been doing.

              Or is it just coincidence that....

              1. Bushes and Bin Ladens were, are and in fact still do business together?
              2. Vice Preident Cheney was CEO of Haliburton and still receives a nice fat check from there.
              3. Bushes younger brother, ran the security company for the Twin towers.
              4. Bush Snr, meet with Bin Laden's brother on the morning of 9/11.
              5. That Americas debt went from 1 trillion to over 8 trillion while Bush and his cronies have been at the helm.
              6. That back in 2004, both Senator Kerry and Bush admitted that both were members of the secret society at Yale University called Skulls & Bones. (On video)
              7. Larry Silverstein made over 7 billion from insurance claims on the WTCs attacks.
              8. That the only 3 steel framed buildings in the world to have collapsed from fire happened on 9/11, and perfectly into their own basement, as any other well controlled demolition.
              9. Silverstein bought the buildings 6 weeks prior to the attack for a down-payment of about 14 million dollars.
              10. That the US gov and CIA has been caught out smuggling cocaine and other contra-bands into the US which they got the money from selling arms to Iranians back in 1986.
              11. The US bank note is a Federal Reserve Note which is not back by anything substantial other than more paper printed by the privately owned Fed Reserve.


              Man the list just goes on and on and on.

              Don't they teach you how to think for yourself in the US?

              A recent survey asked a bunch of Americans in LA what year did 9/11 occur. About 1 answered correctly.

              The same guy asked what was Angelina's babies name and all answered perfectly.

              It's well past the time to wake-up and take a look around my fellow warriors.
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              • Profile picture of the author myob
                No imagination at all. Just keep regurgitating the same old conspiracies over and over ad nauseam. Come on, use some imagination and bring up some new ones. The original post was about the Amero, still scratching for some truth somewhere. Maybe the truth is here:

                ** The Truth is out there, on Area 51

                The secretive nature of Area 51 and undoubted connection to classified aircraft research, together with reports of unusual phenomena, have led Area 51 to become a centerpiece of modern UFO and conspiracy theory folklore. Some of the unconventional activities claimed to be underway at Area 51 include:
                The storage, examination, and reverse engineering of crashed alien spacecraft (including material supposedly recovered at Roswell), the study of their occupants (living and dead), and the manufacture of aircraft based on alien technology.
                Meetings or joint undertakings with extraterrestrials.
                The development of exotic energy weapons (for SDI applications or otherwise) or means of weather control.
                Activities related to a supposed shadowy world government

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                ** U.S. military caused the 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami

                Popular Arab news services claim the U.S. and Indian militaries deliberately caused the Indian Ocean tsunamis with electromagnetic pulse technology.

                Another type of theory bases its claims on oil and gas interests. Others also reason that the technology is at least feasible if not highly probable since research into such technology has been conducted by the military as far back as World War II.

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                ** Dinosauroid-like Alien Reptiles are dominating the World

                Christine Fitzgerald, a confidante of Diana, Princess of Wales, claims that Diana told her that the Royal Family were Reptilian aliens, and that they could shapeshift.

                David Icke's --BBC reporter-- claims that humanity is actually under the control of dinosauroid-like alien reptiles who must consume human blood to maintain their human appearance.

                "Evidence" goes from Sumerian tablets describing the "Anunnaki" (which he translates as "those who from heaven to earth came"), to the serpent in the Biblical Garden of Eden, to child abuse, fluoridation, and the genealogical connections between the Bush family and the House of Windsor.

                Icke theorizes that the reptilians came here from the constellation Draco. Like most conspiracy theories, falsification of Icke's hypotheses is nearly impossible, but Icke continues to sell books and give speaking engagements based on concepts ranging from the New Age to his political opinions.

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                ** The Nazis had a Moon Base

                Esoteric Hitlerists and conspiracy theorists interested in Nazi mysticism and World War II have speculated that the Germans landed on the Moon as early as 1942.

                According to other theories it is believed that the Nazis had made contact with 'half a dozen' alien races, including the malevolent Reptilians.

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                NASA attempted to fly the Cassini space craft laden with 72 pounds of 'super' plutonium into Saturn. This was to have triggered a chain reaction and turn it into a new sun. The end result of which was to terraform Titan into a place suitable for people to live on, with the added side effect of killing half the worlds population in some kind of radiation storm (apparently the Illuminati and all their friends would be safe in lead bunkers. There are of course other bits and pieces added on involving eugenics and aliens. It utterly failed to work to the disappointment of the Illuminati.

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                ** September 11 was orchestrated by the U. S. government

                A number of urban myths, alternative hypotheses and conspiracy theories have been formulated to explain the events of September 11th:
                The U.S., Israel or Iraq government orchestrated the attacks themselves.
                The Twin Towers fell straight down, at close to free-fall speed. This is a similar characteristic of a controlled demolition. The dust cloud and its make up are considered un-characteristic of a gravity-driven collapse.
                It is often pointed out that no steel building before or since the 9-11 attack has collapsed as the result of fire.
                The rubble of the Twin Towers smoldered for weeks after the collapse. This claim is meant to point out that steel could only have smoldered as a result of pre-placed explosives.
                Some consider photographic evidence of the plane lying on the grounds of the Pentagon to be ambiguous and unconvincing, citing a visual lack of burnt metal, human remains, passenger's luggage or seats.
                The Pentagon was struck in a newly renovated, reinforced section. Some speculate this location, the west side of the complex, to be indicative of government involvement, noting it as an attempt to reduce casualties.
                Flight 77 was able to fly in the direction of the DC and Pentagon area for approximately 40 minutes without interception. This is thought to be unusual given the Pentagon's close proximity to Andrews Air Force Base.
                There are claims that anti-missile batteries at the Pentagon should have intercepted Flight 77.
                The FBI confiscated a video, which may have captured the impact, from a nearby gas station attended by Jose Velasquez.


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                ** Barcodes are really intended to Control people

                Some conspiracy theorists have proposed that barcodes are really intended to serve as means of control by a putative world government, or that they are Satanic in intent.

                Mary Stewart Relfe claims in "The New Money System 666" that barcodes secretly encode the number 666 - the Biblical "Number of the Beast".

                This theory has been adopted by other fringe figures such as the "oracle" Sollog, who refuses to label any of his books with barcodes on the grounds that "any type of computer numbering systems MANDATED by any government or business is part of the PROPHECY of the BEAST controlling you."

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                ** Kentucky Fried Chicken makes black men impotent

                Kentucky Fried Chicken is owned by the Ku Klux Klan, and the chicken is laced with a drug that makes only black men impotent.

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                And finally:
                The Pentagon announced today the formation of a new 500 man elite fighting unit called the U.S. REDNECK SPECIAL FORCES (USRSF)

                These Kentucky, West Virginia, Mississippi, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, Texas, Tennessee and North & South Carolina boys will be dropped into Iraq and have been given only the following five facts about terrorists:

                1. The season opened today.
                2. There is no limit.
                3. They taste just like chicken.
                4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music, or Jesus.
                5. They are DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the death of Dale Earnhardt.

                This mess in Iraq should be over IN A WEEK.

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  • Profile picture of the author e-mail2u
    Well it can't happen for at least 3 and a half years, there is a contract to to see through first...
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    • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
      Originally Posted by HarveyJ View Post

      You realize that Skull and Bones is about as secret as the Freemasons, or being Jewish, right?

      It's a bunch of rich frat boys that like to get drunk, paddle each other for a few years, and then get plum jobs in the companies owned by their friends' parents. It just happens to be that some of those companies include the US government.

      And you want a real conspiracy theory? How about the fact that Jeb Bush had a controlling interest in the company that made the electronic polling machines for Florida's 2000 ballot?

      Now, fact of the matter is that the Amero is BS.
      Sure, you can buy the coins, much like you the Australian $200 coin. Doesn't mean it's going to get used or circulated.

      Thanks for the insight....but...how do you explain two members of this secret society running for the top job in the USA in 2004?

      If it is as open as being jewish and yada yada.

      Why did both candidates when confronted by the news reporter both answer in almost the exact manner?

      "It's that secret I can't talk about it"

      It's obvious that you need to study the subject a lot more before being able to have a valid and factual opinion.

      The skull and bones recruits 15 members each year and the only way you would actually know what took place was to be one of the perps.

      And if you did your homework you would see that the Amero and the Nth American union is more than an urban myth.

      And as aussies, we will be next in the thrid and final group to include Asia.

      Have an opinion, but get informed and give some sources or facts or something other than hearsay.

      -Rob
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      • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
        Where's your sources and facts? Comparing yourself to Galileo? That's your argument? People who believe the US never landed on the moon can use the same argument.

        Who else is your source? Infowars? LOL.

        All you use is hearsay. What facts have you presented? Videos of people saying the economy sucks and the goverment is corrupt? Duh. Where's the conspiracy in that? That's common knowledge just as skull and bones is. Even 60 minutes had a segment on skull and bones. Where's the conspiracy of the MSM ignoring this? 60 minutes is about as mainstream as you can get.

        By the way, Paul was pointing out that Galileo wasn't a conspiracy theorist. He was a scientist who had theories. Galileo was around in the 1600's a full century after Columbus sailed to America, but actually the notion that most educated Europeans thought in the middle ages that the earth is flat has been shown to be false. It's referred to as The Myth Of The Flat Earth. Another urban legend so to speak. The Greeks as far back as in 400 bc were talking about the earth being round.

        Now, Galileo was condemned later in his life because of his belief in heliocentrism as opposed to geocentrism. In other words the belief that the sun is the center of the solar system as opposed to the earth. It was more political than anything. He wasn't ever condemned for saying the earth is round. :-)

        So you are talking about others getting their facts straight and needing to do their homework but you are the one with weak arguments. Ironic isn't it?

        Basically like Thom's signature says you've "got nothing".


        Originally Posted by smartcookie View Post

        Have an opinion, but get informed and give some sources or facts or something other than hearsay.

        -Rob
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        • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
          [QUOTE=TimPhelan;290581]Where's your sources and facts? Comparing yourself to Galileo? That's your argument? People who believe the US never landed on the moon can use the same argument.

          Who else is your source? Infowars? LOL.


          It's a case of running with the pack mentality and with whatever is being shoved out by the "spew news."

          If you had taken up all eleven points my my original response and came back with some refutable evidence that could be sourced....I'd reconsider my own perspective. You re-evaluate the data that I am functioning with based on observable known facts.

          But.... it would seem that the "news spewed" out of the media/corporate propaganda machine is suffice for you and others.

          Here's the few points that were mentioned and each is well documented. APA, Bloomberg, Fox, etc, etc, ad infinitum..

          1. Bushes and Bin Ladens were, are and in fact still do business together?
          2. Vice President Cheney was CEO of Haliburton and still receives a nice fat check from there.
          3. Bushes younger brother, ran the security company for the Twin towers.
          4. Bush Snr, meet with Bin Laden's brother on the morning of 9/11.
          5. That Americas debt went from 1 trillion to over 8 trillion while Bush and his cronies have been at the helm.
          6. That back in 2004, both Senator Kerry and Bush admitted that both were members of the secret society at Yale University called Skulls & Bones. (On video)
          7. Larry Silverstein made over 7 billion from insurance claims on the WTCs attacks.
          8. That the only 3 steel framed buildings in the world to have collapsed from fire happened on 9/11, and perfectly into their own basement, as any other well controlled demolition.
          9. Silverstein bought the buildings 6 weeks prior to the attack for a down-payment of about 14 million dollars.
          10. That the US gov and CIA has been caught out smuggling cocaine and other contra-bands into the US which they got the money from selling arms to Iranians back in 1986.
          11. The US bank note is a Federal Reserve Note which is not back by anything substantial other than more paper printed by the privately owned Fed Reserv.


          Now, the point is that as Hitler has been quoted as stating duing his reign and his fight on Terrorism.

          "If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed."

          Let's see what happened over the last 8 years.

          Osama bin laden
          War on terror
          Al Queda
          Afghanistan
          Iraq
          Weapons of mass destruction
          Osama bin laden
          War on terror
          Al Queda
          Afghanistan
          Iraq
          Weapons of mass destruction
          Osama bin laden
          War on terror
          Al Queda
          Afghanistan
          Iraq
          Weapons of mass destruction

          And now the gouge has gotten deeper with the financial news and world coas and we are to believe that this just happens, as did the 1909 stock market rip-off followed by the 1929 stock market rip-off.

          The record has this HUGE gouge in it now and the needle has been stuck. Period

          Only now the lies are told about the mortgage crisis.

          Oh no, I believe Alan Greenspan when he was questioned in congress.

          "A once in a hundred years unforseen credit crunch!"

          Does the lying get better than that?

          I ask ya.

          And so, now we are to believe it is the consummers fault for the financial disasters occurring around the globe and cope it all nicely on the chin, and pathetically say....

          "oh well, at least our government is trying, by giving our hard earnt tax dollars to all those thieving wall street bankers."

          Source.... well it's on every newspaper and channel that you can think off at the moment.

          Infowars and Alex Jones are a great source of truth and highly recommended for anyone who gives a s**t for their country, freedom and true democracy.

          And you know what!

          He's not alone in this fight to confront and expose these true evil group of men who have had their ways with this world as if she was a whore to do as one pleases.

          If you are happy to sit back and take a specator seat then it's not surprising because as it has been written in their very own manuals, texts, books and papers....that's what they want.

          Go back and compare the statistics. America along with the rest of the world are getting DUMBER and it's not by accident.

          Fluoride was first introduced into the death camps of the Nazis as a known incapacitator, lowering IQs dramatically.....and our governments has been flogging it off on the public in the name of betterment and health.

          They want less aware people who are only able to have a span of attention as wide as a tooth pick, it makes it that much easier to lie, cheat and steal from.

          Time is coming to an end and we need to look at confronting the issues and convicting the true criminals no matter of their titles, size of bank accounts or what linage that hold.

          -Rob
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Good response.

      Let me see if I can respond on a similar level:

      Takes one to know one. So there fool! :-0

      Originally Posted by Sam I Am View Post

      Appears people like Tim Phelan and Myob are so closed-minded that the truth would have to slap them across the face before they'd even begin to consider that what they think might be misguided.

      Fools are born every minute.
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        The world just keeps ON changing. I remember thinking back 50 years ago that the fairy tales my mama read to me as a child could never become Conspiracy Theories. .... boy was I wrong.

        Look at WHO is making the big money by promoting these fairy tales. The big bad wolf is going to huff and puff and blow your house down. That conspiracy theory has been making BILLIONS of dollars for the publishers.

        Now, if you believe in corruption, as I certainly do, you just may be onto something. Corruption is much older than conspiracy theories by thousands of years, and corruption will always be with us. But stirring up unfounded conspiracy theories, fear, doom, helplessness, etc, sells lots of books and mucho Ameros. It is also driving down the stock market making it an investors' dreamland.

        When people wake up and find out they have been "duped" by these conspiracy theories, it will be much too late to capitalize on it. Then they will whine and complain again, and the cycle will go on and on. THAT is the conspiracy - making money by fear-mongering.

        How can we save ourselves? Notice that "conspiracy theorists" never offer real solutions, except to buy "their" books and "their" products. Wake up and follow the money to the source of these conspiracy theories.

        My solution - spend less than you earn, save, stay away from consumer credit, start a business, and always invest in the stock market. By doing these simple things, the big bad wolf can't blow your house down.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rick67
    Look at snopes.com...which rates Amero and the Union as FALSE:

    snopes.com: Amero Coin

    snopes.com: North American Union
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    Hmmm...because they have documents that prove these theories are incorrect...we can't trust them???

    I don't think you make any sense at all. Sorry.

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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      It looks like Harvey is doing a Paul ( MYOB ) and using some well done heavy sarcasm. It's kind of hard to tell around here sometimes since you can see others writing very similar posts but meaning every word of it.


      Originally Posted by Rick67 View Post

      Hmmm...because they have documents that prove these theories are incorrect...we can't trust them???

      I don't think you make any sense at all. Sorry.

      Rick
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      There are now only 11 liberal pinko commie leftie facist intellectual liberal jews left to rule the world. The Free Mason Illuminati 13 is now the Free Mason Illuminati 11. Kenneth Barnes received 45 years inprisonment on conspiracy charges, and Marjorie Diehl-Armstrong is in a Federal Prison Ft. Worth, Texas awaiting an exam to determine if she's mentally competent to stand trial on conspiracy charges.
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    Good to hear.
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      Originally Posted by HarveyJ View Post

      So MYOB, you been buying up Obamabucks? They're all thats going to be useable in 2009... EVERYWHERE... Even the AUD is being Obamated. I mean, there's a black guy on our $50 note already!
      Actually Monopoly money is the currency used by more than 2 billion people in over 80 countries. Its been around since 1935, far longer even than most governments have been existence. If you want stability and continuity, go with Monopoly currency. Obamabucks, like Ameros, are fads that will fade out of fashion in four years. Monopoly money is here to stay.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Yep it's changing - 10 years ago I wasn't aware of GPS either - now they are built into cars whether you want your car trackable or not - and you can also be tracked by your cellphone - doesn't even need to be on anymore. Yep - that's progress!
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Yep it's changing - 10 years ago I wasn't aware of GPS either - now they are built into cars whether you want your car trackable or not - and you can also be tracked by your cellphone - doesn't even need to be on anymore. Yep - that's progress!
      Sal, have you been naughty, or nice? Santa Claus has been tracking you since you were born with his secret technology.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        Sal, have you been naughty, or nice? Santa Claus has been tracking you since you were born with his secret technology.
        Oh heck, Paul - that's an easy fix. Just let him know if you don't get what you want you'll tell small children he doesn't exist, or worse, that he's evil. He just gives it up without bothering to track you as long as he knows you'll say what he wants the kids to hear - Never had any repercussions other than that reindeer poop in the fireplace - smells frightful when it burns.


        OH BTW - SmartCookie - it's been a lot of years since people thought that the FED was part of the Government (other than maybe a few senior citizens here and there). The question of that ceased to be "theory" about two decades ago and the average citizen is well aware of the FED, World Bank, etc. The question that I always wondered is why nobody ever asks what exactly the collateral or liens are on the debt. I've never heard one person ask that question. Go figure.
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        • Profile picture of the author ConcordeWarrior
          Amero is quite a phugly name. If they create the new currency I hope they will find some better name for it.

          I hate the name Euro just as well. I much prefer the original 'ECU' name (European Currency Unit) it made a lot more sense, it was easier and nicer I thought too.

          Ecu was also the name of the French Currency unit in Medieval times so at least that name had a History.

          The Euro is just another NWO tool to scr*w us poor non-sheep citizens. :-(
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          • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
            Originally Posted by smartcookie View Post

            Or is it just coincidence that....

            1. Bushes and Bin Ladens were, are and in fact still do business together?
            2. Vice Preident Cheney was CEO of Haliburton and still receives a nice fat check from there.
            3. Bushes younger brother, ran the security company for the Twin towers.
            4. Bush Snr, meet with Bin Laden's brother on the morning of 9/11.
            5. That Americas debt went from 1 trillion to over 8 trillion while Bush and his cronies have been at the helm.
            6. That back in 2004, both Senator Kerry and Bush admitted that both were members of the secret society at Yale University called Skulls & Bones. (On video)
            7. Larry Silverstein made over 7 billion from insurance claims on the WTCs attacks.
            8. That the only 3 steel framed buildings in the world to have collapsed from fire happened on 9/11, and perfectly into their own basement, as any other well controlled demolition.
            9. Silverstein bought the buildings 6 weeks prior to the attack for a down-payment of about 14 million dollars.
            10. That the US gov and CIA has been caught out smuggling cocaine and other contra-bands into the US which they got the money from selling arms to Iranians back in 1986.
            11. The US bank note is a Federal Reserve Note which is not back by anything substantial other than more paper printed by the privately owned Fed Reserve.

            Man the list just goes on and on and on.

            Don't they teach you how to think for yourself in the US?

            A recent survey asked a bunch of Americans in LA what year did 9/11 occur. About 1 answered correctly.

            The same guy asked what was Angelina's babies name and all answered perfectly.

            It's well past the time to wake-up and take a look around my fellow warriors.
            Tim, glad to hear back from you.

            Initially, you got back on one of the above points with some answer that was to whitewash the other points and put everything into the "ridicule" adsurd Conspiracy basket.

            It has become obvious that you ain't some hillbilly but at the same time, I could say that it is always easier to run with the pack than against the pack and tow the party line.

            Again, it's a classic case of the "I love and believe my governement, the corportate media, the banksters" mentality here that helps to mask what is taking place right under your own very noses.

            Sarcasm and wit is great but fortunately....they are never a match for truth.

            Something can be done about it, but it requires peeling away at the onion layers to get to the facts.

            For some, the onion is rather large and difficult, for others it is tiny in comparison, and the layers fall away.

            Here's a quote from the late Martin Luther King that I believe sums this up nicely.


            Cowardice asks the question - is it safe?
            Expediency asks the question - is it politic?
            Vanity asks the question - is it popular?
            But conscience asks the question - is it right?
            And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular; but one must take it BECAUSE it is right! - Martin.L.King


            Something can be done about it always, but it requires participation and willingness to ask questions and to look at what IS as oppossed to being spewed out of the media machine.

            -Rob
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            • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
              Rob,

              I hardly "run with the pack". It's interesting that if I and others don't buy some of these "theories" that it makes us people who are "running with the pack" or are the ever popular "sheeple". People who believe some of these theories like to think of themselves as independant thinkers and not easily influenced by others, but as people who only see the "truth". However I don't see it that way.

              I don't buy your claim that the Amero is coming soon without approval of the citizens of the three countries, the claim that 9-11 was an inside job, that the illuminati are controlling the world, etc... However, I do believe that our government is corrupt, inept and broken. That the Bush admin was criminal in how it used 9-11 to get us into a war in Iraq. That the gap between the rich and poor is growing instead of becoming more narrow. That the rich and corporations have too much influence on governments, etc... So in many ways we probably agree on things.



              Originally Posted by smartcookie View Post

              Tim, glad to hear back from you.

              It has become obvious that you ain't some hillbilly but at the same time, I could say that it is always easier to run with the pack than against the pack and tow the party line.

              -Rob
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              • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
                Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                Rob,

                I hardly "run with the pack". It's interesting that if I and others don't buy some of these "theories" that it makes us people who are "running with the pack" or are the ever popular "sheeple". People who believe some of these theories like to think of themselves as independant thinkers and not easily influenced by others, but as people who only see the "truth". However I don't see it that way.

                I don't buy your claim that the Amero is coming soon without approval of the citizens of the three countries, the claim that 9-11 was an inside job, that the illuminati are controlling the world, etc... However, I do believe that our government is corrupt, inept and broken. That the Bush admin was criminal in how it used 9-11 to get us into a war in Iraq. That the gap between the rich and poor is growing instead of becoming more narrow. That the rich and corporations have too much influence on governments, etc... So in many ways we probably agree on things.

                Great, at least we can agree on somethings.

                Bush and the administration are criminal.

                And corporations have too much influence on governments.


                Our countries are fighting a war that the majority of it's citizens don't want to be fighting.

                So ....what are WE going to do about it?

                -Rob
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                • Profile picture of the author myob
                  Originally Posted by smartcookie View Post

                  Great, at least we can agree on somethings.

                  Bush and the administration are criminal.

                  And corporations have too much influence on governments.


                  Our countries are fighting a war that the majority of it's citizens don't want to be fighting.

                  So ....what are WE going to do about it?

                  -Rob
                  Even I agree those are the problems we should be concerned about. But making up false and unproven allegations brings us no closer to arriving at a solution. The biggest problem is to decide on what the problem really is. THAT is when focused, reasonable and actionable solutions can begin.
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    It's interesting that if I and others don't buy some of these "theories" that it makes us people who are "running with the pack" or are the ever popular "sheeple".
    Bout as interesting as going over and over legislations and supporting documents - related legislation, historical fact, then telling someone the conclusions just to be told you are a "nut case". We don't have a nation of Dems and Reps - we have sheeple and nut cases.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Doesn't matter if allegations are proven, Paul - unless they are literally broadcast by the corp media, no one believes things are going on. The Bush impeachment was in the Judicary and was aired on C-Span, which pretty muchly guarantees truth (unless there were terroists with guns on the people talking in the courtroom) yet if you tell people that the Judiciary was reviewing the Impeachment articles people go completely ape shit on you - you are a nut case, a conspiracy theorist, and paranoid. If people can't get a grip that some things that are not reported by their local channels (the, now very heavily Saudi owned FOX for instance) are happening and are factual, how exactly likely do you suppose they are going to be to take action of any sort but changing a channel and charging their new toys?
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      LOL! So now we're impeaching Bush? Good job - he is already irrelevant. And the Saudis do NOT own Fox. They are investors in Fox stock shares, about 17%. Many foreign countries own shares of US stocks, and vice versa. I have shares in some Chinese companies, so they better watch out for me - the big bad wolf. It seems some people really enjoy screwing with the facts - we call them "Conspiracy Theorists", nut cases, and paranoid.

      So what if there are foreign investors. The point I'm trying to make is that "Conspiracy Theorists" can make up their own "facts". How can any of this really be taken seriously, come on get a grip. These are the kinds of "verifiable facts" that when come under scrutiny get you labeled as a nut case, a conspiracy theorist, and paranoid.

      So how about some Ameros. And 9-11 was an inside job, that the illuminati are controlling the world, Bushes and Bin Ladens were, are and in fact still do business together, and lets make up some conspiracies as we go along. By the way Saudis stripped Osama of his citizenship in 1992. They do not and never did support his terrorist activities. The Bin Laden family has a large construction business in Saudi Arabia, and have disowned Osama.

      There are plenty of problems to worry about, there is no need to make up imaginary problems and issues. That only serves to diffuse energy that could be used to solve the real problems and the real issues. And just makes more money for the conspiracy theorists in their books and propaganda. The real conspiracy is that conspiracy theorists are stealing your money and must be stopped.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rob Perks
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        LOL! So now we're impeaching Bush? Good job - he is already irrelevant. And the Saudis do NOT own Fox. They are investors in Fox stock shares, about 17%. Many foreign countries own shares of US stocks, and vice versa. I have shares in some Chinese companies, so they better watch out for me - the big bad wolf. It seems some people really enjoy screwing with the facts - we call them "Conspiracy Theorists", nut cases, and paranoid.

        So what if there are foreign investors. The point I'm trying to make is that "Conspiracy Theorists" can make up their own "facts". How can any of this really be taken seriously, come on get a grip. These are the kinds of "verifiable facts" that when come under scrutiny get you labeled as a nut case, a conspiracy theorist, and paranoid.

        So how about some Ameros. And 9-11 was an inside job, that the illuminati are controlling the world, Bushes and Bin Ladens were, are and in fact still do business together, and lets make up some conspiracies as we go along. By the way Saudis stripped Osama of his citizenship in 1992. They do not and never did support his terrorist activities. The Bin Laden family has a large construction business in Saudi Arabia, and have disowned Osama.

        There are plenty of problems to worry about, there is no need to make up imaginary problems and issues. That only serves to diffuse energy that could be used to solve the real problems and the real issues. And just makes more money for the conspiracy theorists in their books and propaganda. The real conspiracy is that conspiracy theorists are stealing your money and must be stopped.


        In light of the known facts, such as "Oh hunny the house is on fire" it still seems that people still tend to get fried.

        If you think and believe that nothing that has been communicated in this entire thread has no merit or worth even though much of it is documented....then good luck.

        The issues are clear just as the questions are about such key, monumental events as 911.

        Which is being, has been and will continue to be questioned and probed until the truth is out.

        The gamut of engineers, demolition experts that question the event and cause should be enough to warrant another investigation?

        The fact that the investigation itself took longer to get started than any others should raise questions to get some answers?

        Why did Cheney and Bush not get sworn in and only got to be questioned behind closed doors with a further check by the government on what could and would be published?

        Why is that veteran pilots are against the official story of what occurred with such amateur pilots?

        The list goes on and on but unfortunately, "We the people are too busy dancing to the music being played that the majority don't get to stop,look and think."

        You make valid points. Not every conspiracy theory is worth the paper that it is written on, but in the case versus the Banksters.

        The evidence that a select group of men, (Rothschild, Rockefeller, Warburgs) are indeed behind the money system and therefore command, the men, the women and children in what, where and when.

        These men own the central banks of the world, the IMF and World bank and are taking over the world.

        JFK was onto them and started to take a stance, prior to being executed.

        Abraham Lincoln was onto them as well, and that's where the "Green Back" was invented.

        Government printed money at 0 interest. And we know that he too was executed by a hitman.

        The information is all there available for any one to look at and see for themselves as to what is reality or what is fictional and make some decisions based on the truth and not the garbage that is being spewed out by the TV stations, government and media in general.

        You just have to look at the recent events of attempting to curtail the internet, as the last bastion of free speech.

        Their has been calls for Google to put on filters and other such non-sense.

        The Australian government is trying to do the same.

        And as always....we the people are just to believe that it is all in our best interests to give up the very inalienable rights that are bequeathed to all of us.

        Paul. I don't think so.

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        • Profile picture of the author ConcordeWarrior
          Cheney, Gonzales indictments dropped
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          Published: Monday December 1, 2008

          A judge in Raymondville, Texas has dropped indictments against Vice President Dick Cheney and former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

          Judge Manuel Banales, after surviving a motion to have him removed from the case, threw out eight of the indictments brought by Willacy County District Attorney Juan Guerra, including those against two special prosecutors, two district judges, and a district clerk.

          Judge Banales ruled the grand jury returned the indictments against Cheney and Gonzales unlawfully. Banales also tossed an indictment for corruption against State Senator Eddie Lucio Jr., a Democrat.

          Charges were brought against Vice President Cheney and former AG Gonzales for blocking the investigation into a prisoner's murder in a private prison in Raymondville.

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      • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
        Exactly Paul. Something people should think about if you believe these illuminati are so powerful and ruthless, why are people like Ickes, Jones and the rest still alive? I mean, if the Illuminati kill presidents, were behind 9-11 and taking over the world surely they will not think twice about killing these nobodys who are "outing" them.

        When it comes to this common sense point, it was expressed best in the link below:

        There is no 9/11 conspiracy you morons.

        You have to admit, he has a point. Not only are these guys still alive, they are making tons of money. Big bad illuminati perhaps have a soft spot in their hearts for these guys.

        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        And just makes more money for the conspiracy theorists in their books and propaganda. The real conspiracy is that conspiracy theorists are stealing your money and must be stopped.
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    Amero = 1 USD = 1 CAD = 10 mexican pesos?
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      Originally Posted by myanyx View Post

      Amero = 1 USD = 1 CAD = 10 mexican pesos?
      LOL! There is no economic reason for even having the Amero. Unlike the ECU, North American countries are widely disparate in their social, political, cultural, and economic system. Mexico alone is an economic and political basketcase; it would immediately drag down any common currency. Canadians are socialist with a centralist government, and the US economy is about three times the size of both countries combined. Besides, the US dollar is the defacto currency worldwide already.

      So, despite a valiant defense by conspiracy theorists that we should all be very, very afraid, I think it is safe to simply ignore conspiracy theories. The same old theories keep popping up despite the fact they have been debunked over and over again. With so many staunch defenders of these silly fairy tales, I can only conclude now that this is simply a cult, not unlike Harry Potter followers. And it is a very profitable industry for those who can keep these fires of ignorance, suspicion, and superstition burning.

      "A mighty flame follows a tiny spark. All hope abandon you who enter here." Dante's "Inferno - The Divine Comedy"

      The original spark on this thread was about the Amero, and when that got debunked we are hearing more and more of other more fantastic conspiracy theories. Those get debunked, so throw on so more conspiracy theories. All the supporting "facts" presented have been shown to be either inaccurate, stretched to fit, or just plain ludicrous. So come on lets have some more conspiracy theories to pile on to this growing bonfire for the awe of the believers of the cult.

      The only conspiracy theory that I ever really liked was the JFK assasination. That was a good one, and it is the template upon which all conspiracy theories have been based upon ever since.

      Conspiracy theorists everywhere are coming increasingly under intense scrutiny, however. It's getting much more difficult for new conspiracy theorists to make an honest living anymore. My suggestion is if you want your theory to stick, you really should check the facts, and build your case on the foundation of truth. Once you have the truth, you can stretch it to whatever shape you want to fit. Anything less is simply a fairy tale.

      Until we have solid proof of conspiracies, I have plenty of other proven things to be worried about in the world: radical terrorism, nuclear proliferation, hunger, poverty, the economy, energy, suffering, ignorance, etc. Reading fairy tales may be entertaining, but like conspiracy theories, they should not replace reality.
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  • Profile picture of the author Roar
    Haven't been to this thread in a while. Surprised but glad it's still being debated. I think regardless of your point of view, it's good and imperative these things are spoken about in an open forum.

    The govt. is incompetent, corrupt, ineffectual, etc, no doubt. But I also believe there is a "secret" group of elite conspirators who control world politics and economics from the shadows. Just because it sounds crazy doesn't mean it's false. After all, I'm only paranoid because they're all out to get me. ;-)

    Keep on questioning, ridiculing and not accepting anything presented at face value. It's all a conspiracy. We all have something to hide. After all, I am stockpiling chocolate in a Swiss account.

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  • Profile picture of the author ayolov
    Just heard that the G20 speculated over an international currency, maybe there is some truth to all this speculation after all…
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Yo ho ho, we're rowing in the dough...
      DOW up over 8,000 today, what do you say
      Yo ho ho, we're rowing in the dough...
      No Ameros in sight, another great night
      Yo ho ho, we're rowing in the dough.
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  • Profile picture of the author YiKeS
    Capitalist pigs ... with heads in the trough ...

    The People are saying .. "HEY! We`ve Had Enough"

    Rich getting richer while the poor ... well they`re dying

    and now we all know ... it`s all based on lying


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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      I can't stop all the lying, but I can search for truth...
      I can't help all the dying, but I can give some comfort...
      I can't stop all the greed, but I can work and succeed...
      I can't help all the needy, but I can give something...
      I can't stop all the despair, but I can say there is hope...
      I can't change the world, but I can change my circumstance...
      I can't promise tomorrow, but I can sieze the day...
      I can't row across the ocean, but I can row through the storm...
      In life there is no guarantee, but neither is there a shortage of opportunity.
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      • Profile picture of the author Patrician
        Biggest week on the DJA since 1933!



        Let's hope we are on our way to recovery...

        Get well soon America and the World!

        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        I can't stop all the lying, but I can search for truth...
        I can't help all the dying, but I can give some comfort...
        I can't stop all the greed, but I can work and succeed...
        I can't help all the needy, but I can give something...
        I can't stop all the despair, but I can say there is hope...
        I can't change the world, but I can change my circumstance...
        I can't promise tomorrow, but I can sieze the day...
        I can't row across the ocean, but I can row through the storm...
        In life there is no guarantee, but neither is there a shortage of opportunity.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Maschke
    I can't stop all the lying, but I can search for truth...
    I can't help all the dying, but I can give some comfort...
    I can't stop all the greed, but I can work and succeed...
    I can't help all the needy, but I can give something...
    I can't stop all the despair, but I can say there is hope...
    I can't change the world, but I can change my circumstance...
    I can't promise tomorrow, but I can sieze the day...
    I can't row across the ocean, but I can row through the storm...
    In life there is no guarantee, but neither is there a shortage of opportunity.
    Thanks Paul. I needed that

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  • Profile picture of the author Phnx
    Ho hum....

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    The G20 moves the world a step closer to a global currency

    The world is a step closer to a global currency, backed by a global central bank, running monetary policy for all humanity.

    By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
    Last Updated: 2:06PM BST 03 Apr 2009

    A single clause in Point 19 of the communiqué issued by the G20 leaders amounts to revolution in the global financial order.

    "We have agreed to support a general SDR allocation which will inject $250bn (£170bn) into the world economy and increase global liquidity," it said. SDRs are Special Drawing Rights, a synthetic paper currency issued by the International Monetary Fund that has lain dormant for half a century.

    In effect, the G20 leaders have activated the IMF's power to create money and begin global "quantitative easing". In doing so, they are putting a de facto world currency into play. It is outside the control of any sovereign body. Conspiracy theorists will love it.

    It has been a good summit for the IMF. Its fighting fund for crises is to be tripled overnight to $750bn. This is real money.

    Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the managing director, said in February that the world was "already in Depression" and risked a slide into social disorder and military conflict unless political leaders resorted to massive stimulus.

    He has not won everything he wanted. The spending plan was fudged. While Gordon Brown talked of $5 trillion in global stimulus by 2010, this is mostly made up of packages already under way.

    But Mr Strauss-Kahn at least has resources fit for his own task. He will need them. The IMF is already bailing out Pakistan, Iceland, Latvia, Hungary, Ukraine, Belarus, Serbia, Bosnia and Romania. This week Mexico became the first G20 state to ask for help. It has secured a precautionary credit line of $47bn.

    Gordon Brown said it took 15 years for the world to grasp the nettle after Great Crash in 1929. "This time I think people will agree that it has been different," he said.

    President Barack Obama was less dramatic. "I think we did OK," he said. Bretton Woods in 1944 was a simpler affair. "Just Roosevelt and Churchill sitting in a room with a brandy, that's an easy negotiation, but that's not the world we live in."

    There will be $250bn in trade finance to kick-start shipping after lenders cut back on Letters of Credit after September's heart attack in the banking system. Global trade volumes fell at annual rate of 41pc from November to January, according to Holland's CPB institute - the steepest peacetime fall on record.

    Euphoria swept emerging markets yesterday as the first reports of the IMF boost circulated. Investors now know that countries like Mexico can arrange a credit facility able to cope with major shocks - and do so on supportive terms, rather than the hair-shirt deflation policies of the old IMF. Fear is receding again.

    The Russians had hoped their idea to develop SDRs as a full reserve currency to challenge the dollar would make its way on to the agenda, but at least they got a foot in the door.

    There is now a world currency in waiting. In time, SDRs are likely evolve into a parking place for the foreign holdings of central banks, led by the People's Bank of China. Beijing's moves this week to offer $95bn in yuan currency swaps to developing economies show how fast China aims to break dollar dependence.

    French President Nicolas Sarkozy said the summit had achieved more than he ever thought possible, and praised Gordon Brown for pursuing the collective interest as host rather than defending "Anglo-Saxon" interests.

    This has a double-edged ring, for it suggests that Mr Brown may have traded pockets of the British financial industry to satisfy Franco-German demands. The creation of a Financial Stability Board looks like the first step towards a global financial regulator. The devil is in the details.

    Hedge funds deemed "systemically important" will come under draconian restraints. How this is enforced will determine whether Mayfair's hedge-fund industry - 80pc of all European funds are there - will continue to flourish.

    It seems that hedge funds have been designated for ritual sacrifice, even though they played no more than a cameo role in the genesis of this crisis. It was not they who took on extreme debt leverage: it was the banks - up to 30 times in the US and nearer 60 times for some in Europe that used off-books "conduits" to increase their bets. The market process itself is sorting this out in any case - brutally - forcing banks to wind down their leverage. The problem right now is that this is happening too fast.

    But to the extent that this G20 accord makes it impossible for the "shadow banking" to resurrect itself in the next inevitable cycle of risk appetite, it may prevent another disaster of this kind.

    The key phrase is "new rules aimed at avoiding excessive leverage and forcing banks to put more money aside during good times." This is more or less what the authorities agreed after the Depression. Complacency chipped away at the rules as the decades passed. It is the human condition, and we can't change that.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/c...-currency.html
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Story launched the widespread internet hoax which claimed that U.S Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson had been assassinated by firearm
      Indy choose your sources a little more carefully will ya.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Eeeeyawwwn!

    Over 13,000 words. I read about 10 of them.



    (1) The verb 'to thaumatrope': to bombard captive audiences with endless verbiage without regard for those forced to put up with this offensive, such that the thaumatroper is engaged in a verbal assault from which the audience cannot escape.
    So, this lengthy post is a written version of that?
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

      Eeeeyawwwn!

      Over 13,000 words. I read about 10 of them.



      So, this lengthy post is a written version of that?
      Here's a 10 word summary: You're all gonna get screwed in the New World Order.
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  • Profile picture of the author forexposting
    Hi Indiana,

    Many thanks for the information. This is really helpful for me.

    Best Regards
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy123
      I don't think the nwo people are smart enough to achieve their plan, if it is true.

      China and Russia are doing business more in RMB.
      They don't want a global currency.

      There was a financial crisis meeting here in China on tv a few weeks ago,
      they asked

      Joseph Stiglitz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      a question, and old Joe just said that is a good question, we are currently researching
      this matter blah, blah, blah, your typical beat around the bush answer.

      They showed the Chinese laughing because Joe did not answer the question.

      Another discussion explained how China bought more US debt on Obama's word
      the US would not print more money. When more money was printed, the Chinese realized Obama is not in charge, it is the Fed, they see now the Fed is not part of the US government.

      not everyone is on board with the nwo
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  • Profile picture of the author superstylefactor
    hmm... i think it'll be insane trying to congregate, or even differentiate the monetary value of everyday things from developed countries to developing countries to third world countries?
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