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Hey rock and roll fans!

I just got the rough mixes for what we did in the studio this past weekend.

I was thinking of making and posting a video, but I can't decide which one. That's where you come in.

Let me know which title interests you, and I will use your votes to decide which one to do.

1. Whiskey And Nicotine

2. That's The Truth

3. Punk Rock Girl

4. Storm Is Brewing (Take It Back)

5. Instability

6. Wrecking Ball

7. 1973


Rock on!
Michael
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    Ummm...is this a love song :confused:
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

      Ummm...is this a love song :confused:
      LOL

      Sorry, Bill. I wasn't very clear.

      Those are the song titles of songs that are already done. However, I don't know which one to post here, so I figured I leave it up to all of you to decide which title sounds like it might be an interesting song.

      Hope that makes sense. (It does to me, but that doesn't mean anything)

      Rock on!
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    I'm a head banger, Michael -

    5. Instability
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    Punk Rock Girl or 1973
    (I'm a romatic,what can I say?)
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    • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
      Michael,

      I know I'm dense, but why not post the song and then ask us which title we'd associate with the song.

      To me it makes little sense to click on a song titled "Little GTO" only to find out is was about a little goat teasing orangutans.

      ~Bill
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
        Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

        Michael,

        I know I'm dense, but why not post the song and then ask us which title we'd associate with the song.

        To me it makes little sense to click on a song titled "Little GTO" only to find out is was about a little goat teasing orangutans.

        ~Bill
        Hi Bill,

        I had a hunch...

        There are 7 songs. Each with different words and music. The songs are ready to go (almost), but I don't want to post all 7 of the songs in their entirety, so I figured I post the titles and let you all decide which ones sound interesting.

        I know you have no idea what they are about or what they sound like, but that's where the fun comes in. You only have the title to go by.

        Rock on!
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        • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
          Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

          There are 7 songs. Each with different words and music. The songs are ready to go (almost), but I don't want to post all 7 of the songs in their entirety, so I figured I post the titles and let you all decide which ones sound interesting.
          Now I get it...Ok, this should be fun.

          I wanna hear Wrecking Ball.
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          • Profile picture of the author Rikki_Fawkes
            I'm kind of partial to "Wrecking Ball" myself, but "Punk Rock Girl" could be interesting.
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          • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
            1973

            Thought I'd better choose that one fast, before it went up to 2009.

            Once a marketer...


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      • Profile picture of the author KimW
        Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

        Michael,

        I know I'm dense, but why not post the song and then ask us which title we'd associate with the song.

        To me it makes little sense to click on a song titled "Little GTO" only to find out is was about a little goat teasing orangutans.

        ~Bill

        But oh what a song that would be,KJ!
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    3. Punk Rock Girl

    Or if not

    4. Storm is Brewing (take it back)
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    So Michael - shouldn't you post your super hot rock star avatar for this?
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      So Michael - shouldn't you post your super hot rock star avatar for this?
      Too many complaints.



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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

        Too many complaints.



        ~M~
        :confused: Complaints? Because you look terrific? Suck it up, smile, and tell em you worked for it and deserve it.

        Better yet - write a song about "lazy, jealous *******s".
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  • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
    I'd like to hear Wrecking Ball, too. That one jumped right
    out before I read anything else.


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  • Profile picture of the author Jim Hallmark
    I like whiskey and nicotine Michael. I mean..........the title is catchy!
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    I am interested with the title " That's the Truth. I really wonder wonder if that is really the truth.
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  • Profile picture of the author nigrilaforever
    Whiskey And Nicotine (it reminds some depressive)
    Wrecking Ball (great title for the metal song)

    and maybe Punk Rock Girl (for the punk rock of course)
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  • Wrecking ball, definitely! \m/
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Well, one of them that got a lot of votes was Wrecking Ball.

    This song was inspired by the riff. I heard it as mechanical, and tried to capture a mechanical feel as well as imagery as a sort of metaphor. It's somewhat repetitive, but that's intentional.

    Let me know what you think. Keep in mind that this is the rough mix. All of the various levels have not been adjusted, and a few finishing touches will be added.

    Anyway...


    LYRICS

    I'm a wrecking ball baby I ain't fooling around
    Wrecking ball baby gonna tear it all down
    Wrecking ball baby and I'm made out of steel
    Wrecking ball baby now you know how it feels

    Smooth talker honey quit lying to my face
    Smooth talker honey you're a rotten disgrace

    I'm a Piledriver babe I'm ahead of my time
    Piledriver babe my piston's all a-prime
    Piledriver babe this is long overdue
    Piledriver babe let me slam into you

    Smooth talker honey think you know what to say
    Smooth talker honey now get outta my way

    I'm a jackhammer lady you got nothing to fear
    Jackhammer lady coming through loud and clear
    Jackhammer lady bustin' up all this rock
    Jackhammer lady now you're going into shock


    I'm a jackhammer lady you got nothing to fear
    Jackhammer lady coming through loud and clear
    Jackhammer lady bustin' up all this rock
    Jackhammer lady now you're going into shock

    Smooth talker honey think you know what to say
    Smooth talker honey now get outta my way

    I'm a Piledriver babe I'm ahead of my time
    Piledriver babe my piston's all a-prime
    Piledriver babe this is long overdue
    Piledriver babe let me slam into you


    I'm a geiger counter love can you hear all those clicks
    Geiger counter love detecting your tricks
    Geiger counter love my sensor is ablaze
    Geiger counter love in a radiation haze

    Smooth talker honey quit lying to my face
    Smooth talker honey you're a rotten disgrace

    You're a ball breaker woman got it all in your hands
    Ball breaker woman got your list of demands
    Ball breaker woman never giving me a rest
    Ball breaker woman but you still are the best
    Lyrics © Copyright 2010 - Michael Oksa

    Rock on!
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Yeah, that's a good one to play at a rowdy bar to calm the crowd down.

    Good song, Mike.

    Now can I hear Instabilty...I know I'm the only one who wanted to hear that one but I think you owe me a favor. I don't know exactly what for, but I'll think of something if I have to.
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    • Profile picture of the author waterotter
      How about posting the remaining titles each day - lets us vote daily - we get a daily song. Then everybody is happy, well maybe KJ and Ken might kick up a stink. :p
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      • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
        Originally Posted by waterotter View Post

        How about posting the remaining titles each day - lets us vote daily - we get a daily song. Then everybody is happy, well maybe KJ and Ken might kick up a stink. :p
        NFW I'll kick up a stink about that.

        I like that 'song a day' idea, and now that I've heard that one I HAVE TO hear the rest.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          Okay, I just listened to it and I'm going to take a few shots here at how and
          with what this was recorded.

          For starters, there's not a lot going on in this tune, which helps.

          Sounds like the following:

          1. Rhythm Electric.
          2. Electric Bass
          3. Drums
          4. Vocals

          If there's anything else, I don't hear it.

          That's a good part of the reason why it sounds so clean. Once you start
          adding stuff to the mix (most of my tunes are a good 16 channels of
          instrumentation) it gets very hard to keep it clean unless you're in a
          pro studio.

          Also, the vocals seem to be processed very lightly. In fact, I'd say there's
          just a slight reverb on them.

          Listen to my Jazz tune and you'll find it's very clean as it's just piano,
          drums, bass, sax and some strings at the end.

          Anyway, the tune has a lot of energy. Not exactly my taste in music but
          it's very well done. I wish I had a voice like the lead singer. My rock tunes
          would go over a lot better than with my Davy Jones squeal.
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          • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            Okay, I just listened to it and I'm going to take a few shots here at how and
            with what this was recorded.

            For starters, there's not a lot going on in this tune, which helps.

            Sounds like the following:

            1. Rhythm Electric.
            2. Electric Bass
            3. Drums
            4. Vocals

            If there's anything else, I don't hear it.

            That's a good part of the reason why it sounds so clean. Once you start
            adding stuff to the mix (most of my tunes are a good 16 channels of
            instrumentation) it gets very hard to keep it clean unless you're in a
            pro studio.

            Also, the vocals seem to be processed very lightly. In fact, I'd say there's
            just a slight reverb on them.

            Listen to my Jazz tune and you'll find it's very clean as it's just piano,
            drums, bass, sax and some strings at the end.

            Anyway, the tune has a lot of energy. Not exactly my taste in music but
            it's very well done. I wish I had a voice like the lead singer. My rock tunes
            would go over a lot better than with my Davy Jones squeal.
            Hi Steven,

            You're right on all counts, though we will be adding more layers to each track in the days to come.

            By the way, thank you for the compliment. I don't know how to play any instruments, so that makes me the singer and lyric writer (on 5 of the 7).

            Rock on!
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        Originally Posted by waterotter View Post

        well maybe KJ and Ken might kick up a stink. :p
        Yo Otter!


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        • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
          Michael,

          Congrats - the song sounds great!

          My only slight criticism is that, IMO, it's a little too 'wordy' for the style and theme. Personally, I'd strip it down to just a couple of verses and repeat the chorus a few more times.

          And yes, let's hear the others.


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    • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
      Michael, I like that tune.

      Any way you can teach Wags how to get those production values for his tunes...
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

        Michael, I like that tune.

        Any way you can teach Wags how to get those production values for his tunes...
        I haven't listened yet but I'm sure it's great.

        Michael, pro studio?
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          I haven't listened yet but I'm sure it's great.

          Michael, pro studio?
          Hi Steven,

          I know this type of music isn't for everybody, but hope it's good for what it is.

          Yes, we recorded at Rock Garden Studio : Audio Recording, Video Production, and Music Video Production : Appleton, WI

          I just met Marc, but he was really laid back, and definitely knows his stuff.

          Rock on!
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          • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
            Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

            Hi Steven,

            I know this type of music isn't for everybody, but hope it's good for what it is.

            Yes, we recorded at Rock Garden Studio : Audio Recording, Video Production, and Music Video Production : Appleton, WI

            I just met Marc, but he was really laid back, and definitely knows his stuff.

            Rock on!
            Michael
            Okay, well that explains the production quality.

            I'm recording my stuff on a Boss BR 900 CD which cost me 600 bucks.

            So cut me some slack guys. :p
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            • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
              Oh Michael, if that's you singing, great job!

              I wish I had a voice half that good.
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            • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
              Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

              Okay, well that explains the production quality.

              I'm recording my stuff on a Boss BR 900 CD which cost me 600 bucks.

              So cut me some slack guys. :p
              Nope, no slack allowed.

              Your songs are way too good to be hidden behind all that masking.

              Here's a thought...have Michael record one of your songs with the same clarity as in the above tune.

              Like any good picture image you don't need to use all 64 Crayolas just because you own the box.

              Listen to any good power trio in a live performance and you can see the difference. Raw=Good.
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              • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
                Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

                Nope, no slack allowed.

                Your songs are way too good to be hidden behind all that masking.

                Here's a thought...have Michael record one of your songs with the same clarity as in the above tune.

                Like any good picture image you don't need to use all 64 Crayolas just because you own the box.

                Listen to any good power trio in a live performance and you can see the difference. Raw=Good.
                The thing is, if I had a professional studio at my disposal, I could put
                everything I wanted into the mix and it would sound great.

                See, at a pro studio, you probably have a minimum of 64 tracks. I've
                got 8. So to go beyond that, I have to do a lot of bouncing. With each
                bounce, stuff is going to get buried. There is no way around it.

                Like I said, listen to my Jazz tune. It's as clean as a whistle.

                And the last thing you want to listen to is me singing to a guitar, bass
                and drums.

                Trust me on that.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    I'm with KJ, like the song. Could use some tweaking still, but you know that.

    You recorded in Appleton? Childhood home of Houdini!
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Originally Posted by KimW View Post

      I'm with KJ, like the song. Could use some tweaking still, but you know that.

      You recorded in Appleton? Childhood home of Houdini!
      Yep, that's the place!



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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    Steven, I have said it before that I think some of your songs could be hits. KJ has a good idea.
    And Michael, good to finally hear some of your stuff. As you say:
    Rock On.
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    Hecka good, Michael!

    I hope Punk Rock Girl is next having quite a few votes as well.

    ROCK ON DOWN WITH THE TUNE OF THE DAY BY THE WARRIOR-OKSA

    You Rock.
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    I'm a Piledriver babe I'm ahead of my time
    Piledriver babe my piston's all a-prime
    Piledriver babe this is long overdue
    Piledriver babe let me slam into you
    You hopeless romantic you.

    As others have said above - simple, direct and RAW!!!

    It may not set the charts alight, but would sound great in a dingy bar along with a few bourbons.

    Good stuff.

    Next please.
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    Got to be whiskey And nicotine because I love them both.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Howdy all...

    Okay, it took a while, but here is the next song from the band I'm in. I wrote the lyrics and sing all of the vocals.

    This is another "rough mix", but would love to get your thoughts on it. I hope you enjoy it.


    Rock on!
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

      Howdy all...

      Okay, it took a while, but here is the next song from the band I'm in. I wrote the lyrics and sing all of the vocals.

      This is another "rough mix", but would love to get your thoughts on it. I hope you enjoy it.

      YouTube - Laconic Yak - Storm Is Brewing (Take It Back) - Rough Mix

      Rock on!
      Michael
      Okay, one thing I love about people who honestly critique my own music
      is that it gives me some idea of where I need to improve.

      Having said that, I firmly believe that music is a totally subjective thing.

      There is no such thing as a piece of music that is definitely good or bad
      because for every song that's been written, you're going to have some
      people love it and some people hate it.

      That's the beauty of music. You can create something that, no matter
      how unsure you yourself are of its value, somebody out there is going to
      love it.

      So, let me give you my own personal opinion, critiquing on several levels.

      Let me start out with the recording quality and mix.

      By 1960s adn 70s standards, this thing is definitely radio ready, which
      shows you how far we've come in the last 40 years. Back then, I could
      absolutely picture hearing this on one of the underground stations in my
      area. No, it's not mainstream then or now. So you're going to have a
      relatively small audience with this genre. But it does exist.

      On a songwriting level, technically speaking, it's rather monotonous. There
      isn't a lot of diversification in the song. It appears to be AAA song format
      but it's really hard to tell. I did kind of get what may have been a chorus
      but the verse and chorus, musically and feel wise, are so similar that it's
      hard to tell them apart.

      In other words, there isn't a lot of dynamic range in this song outside of
      the intro and outro.

      Personally, I don't care for the genre. That might have a lot to do with
      how I am hearing it so therefore, I may or may not be hearing things that
      are or aren't there.

      In order to accurately critique a genre of music, you really have to
      understand that genre and feel it to a degree. I don't, and therefore I
      am not the right person to ask for an opinion on it. Therefore, take
      everything I've said about this with less than a grain of salt. Instead, send
      it to an A&R man who specializes in this music and he'll give you an
      accurate evaluation.

      However, having said that, please remember this.

      These guys are not gods. They don't have all the answers.

      It was put to me very nicely by a big name in the industry many years
      ago when I was seriously into trying to make it as a songwriter. I will
      never forget his words.

      "As A&R people, we are paid to be wrong. But we better be right once in
      a while."

      Truth is, nobody really knows what will or won't sell. They just take their
      best guess at it.

      Other comments I'd like to make?

      Your voice fits the genre. On a scale of 1 to 10, I give it an 8. I don't
      give it a higher grade because it doesn't have that distinct "can't miss who
      this is sound" like somebody like a Kurt Cobain or an Ozzy Osbourne.

      You're good, but you sound like everybody else, which sure beats the hell
      out of what I sound like...which is why I could never make it as a singer
      and don't even attempt to sing stuff in this genre.

      The band has a tight sound. It isn't flashy and like you said, it's a basic
      bare bones mix, but I think with the right production, you could get a
      deal with an independent label.

      It's a miserable business...one I have now been involved in for over 30
      years. There is nothing easy about it and sometimes I think it's more about
      who you know than how good you are.

      If you think I'm kidding, listen to some of the top 40 crap that they play
      on stations like Z 100 here in New York.

      Only thing that really matters is that you enjoy what you're doing, which I
      do. Because if you're doing this just to make a name for yourself, you're
      going to end up bitter and jaded.

      This business will eat you alive. I know. I gave up writing for 5 years
      until I finally realized that I actually enjoyed it.

      Which reminds me, I really have to update my song book as I haven't
      posted a new tune in quite a while.

      Anyway, don't know if any of these comments helped you in any way,
      but please know that they were from my heart.

      Which is where music should come from.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
        Good stuff! I like hard rock so I really enjoyed it. Wrecking Ball reminded me of BTO. Keep rocking.
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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        It was put to me very nicely by a big name in the industry many years
        ago when I was seriously into trying to make it as a songwriter. I will
        never forget his words.
        "As A&R people, we are paid to be wrong. But we better be right once in
        a while."
        Q. How many A&R people does it take to change a light bulb?


        A. I don’t know – what do you think?




        Michael, I like it. It sounds to me like something Midnight Oil might have done.

        You should post the lyrics - I see you just snuck in a snippet of them in a thread upstairs.



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  • Profile picture of the author Leslie B
    Well, I guess I'm one of the lucky people who has listened to all 7 songs, and while they are all good Mike, you know my favorite is Whiskey and Nicotine. Although my kids love their "howling song" (1973), cause you know, they love to howl together with you guys. Believe me, we haven't had a calm car ride since they day I got all your songs.

    so, when's the next cd coming out?

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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Huh? How did I miss this thread when it began?

    Anyway, this isn't my kind of music, but I can still hear the professionalism and talent that is present. You guys make high energy sound easy. You sound as good as any other band that I've heard play this style. Good luck...keep playing, you've got something good going.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
    I didn't understand a word of what Steven said and I don't normally listen to this style/type of music but I liked both of them

    Michael you impressed me buddy. Thanks for the great break.

    Ken Leatherman

    The Old Geezer

    P.S. Steve I was just picking on you. Honest Injun - LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Well, yeah, Michael - - that's my kind of rock. I like your voice....but I wanna hear you scream. LOL - seriousness. Thought you were going to rage for a minute and I would have liked to hear more rage in the intense parts - you have the voice for it guy -- let it OUUUT.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Hey All,

    Thanks for the comments so far.

    @Steven - I appreciate your remarks. Yes, it's a simply structured song. I don't write the music, but I believe it's all the same chords, played with more or less intensity as the song goes on. So, I tried to compensate for this by making the chorus very repetitive; figuring that would be the part people would remember.

    @ HeySal - I had a hunch you'd like this one. I used to scream more back in the 90s, but after too many birthdays, and not singing for close to 20 years, the screams don't get quite as intense as they used to.

    Rock on!
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