Anyone else up at 3AM working?

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I oftentimes work very late into the night because I'm trying to make some action happen here. I'm getting pretty close to breaking through with some of my sites.

Does anyone else work odd hours in order to get your work done?
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    Oh yeah, I always write 100 words of a 1500 word character during the day and then I decide half an hour before midnight that it's already a good idea to really start writing.

    It takes up to 2AM to finish the article and one more hour to edit it / publish it...

    But it's a part of my stupidity, not my commitment :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Hi Jennifer,

      As my plan is to emigrate to Australia I need some commercial experience in IM to get a job there whilst I get residency. After that I can happily live off my IM income. Getting in via a needed job is just the easiest way for me, so...

      Right now I get up at 5am, I work on my stuff until just after 7 then go to work. At 4 I come home and work until 10pm on my own stuff. I don't work too much on the weekends but often find myself getting on with things anyway. It's a pain having to do this as financially I don't need the job but it is a means to an end and I've done nearly 6 months, so hopefully another 6 months should be all I need. Ironically when I first started out with very little, I had to do the same but my job was as a cleaner. At least now it's a good job doing IM.

      I think when you start you just have to do all the hours you can. It's not easy but the hardwork will pay off. To be honest to most people with a job anything outside 9-5 is considered "odd".

      Good luck Jenn, hope you get that breakthrough, you deserve it.
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    Originally Posted by AFI View Post


    Does anyone else work odd hours in order to get your work done?
    Sure, but keep in mind that it's only 3AM right now for a small portion of the members reading your thread... It's only Midnight for me, it's mid-morning for European Warriors, and I think it's two days from now in Australia.
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      Originally Posted by Ken Strong View Post

      and I think it's two days from now in Australia.
      It can never be more than 24 hours whilst still being on planet Earth.

      Getting close though. Sydney = LA time +19 hours.

      For New Zealand you can add another 2 hours.
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

        It can never be more than 24 hours whilst still being on planet Earth.

        Getting close though. Sydney = LA time +19 hours.

        For New Zealand you can add another 2 hours.

        He was joking, but I always wanted to know the formula for Australia time, so thanks for posting.
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    Yeah, sometimes. Quite often, in fact.

    Sometimes I seem to write/focus much better at night (if I'm not too tired), so I'll stay up until a silly time, or sometimes all night, to get stuff done.

    But then I sleep in until around dinner-time/midday because I really need about 6 hours of sleep either way, else I'm a grumpy old zombie.

    Somehow it feels lonely at night though? When you look out of the window and every house down the street seems to be in darkness. Sometimes gives me a weird, morbid feeling, lol. :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Yesterday, I worked from 11am to 12pm the following day -- Monday.

    I slept 4 hours, and got back up.

    I worked from 4pm to 5pm. Went and picked up my youngest from daycare, and played with him until his bedtime at 9:30 pm.

    I have been working since, and it is now 2:40 am. I am wiped, but I will work for another hour before sleeping for 3 hrs.

    I have to be up at 7am to get the kids ready and off to school. The first two leave at 7:40. The youngest leaves at 8:30.

    At that time, I have the option of sleep until 4pm, but I seldom take full advantage of it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      Yesterday, I worked from 11am to 12pm the following day -- Monday.

      I slept 4 hours, and got back up.

      I worked from 4pm to 5pm. Went and picked up my youngest from daycare, and played with him until his bedtime at 9:30 pm.

      I have been working since, and it is now 2:40 am. I am wiped, but I will work for another hour before sleeping for 3 hrs.

      I have to be up at 7am to get the kids ready and off to school. The first two leave at 7:40. The youngest leaves at 8:30.

      At that time, I have the option of sleep until 4pm, but I seldom take full advantage of it.
      I can vouch for that, I'm 6 hours ahead of Bill and it always amazes me when I look at the clock and realise the chaps still up working.

      Thats why the guy deserves his success.

      Bravo Bill.

      Dire Straits, on a positive note, while they're sleeping you're forging ahead and when they get up for their J-O-B, you get to have a nice snooze.
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        near 4 am and still trying to get stuff done the off to the regular day job at 8 YAHOO!!!
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      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      Yesterday, I worked from 11am to 12pm the following day -- Monday.

      I slept 4 hours, and got back up.

      I worked from 4pm to 5pm. Went and picked up my youngest from daycare, and played with him until his bedtime at 9:30 pm.

      I have been working since, and it is now 2:40 am. I am wiped, but I will work for another hour before sleeping for 3 hrs.

      I have to be up at 7am to get the kids ready and off to school. The first two leave at 7:40. The youngest leaves at 8:30.

      At that time, I have the option of sleep until 4pm, but I seldom take full advantage of it.
      Bill, that's a pretty crazy schedule you keep there. Do you always sleep this little, even on the weekends? How do you stay awake?

      Paul
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        Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

        Bill, that's a pretty crazy schedule you keep there. Do you always sleep this little, even on the weekends? How do you stay awake?

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        • Profile picture of the author paulie888
          Originally Posted by DireStraits View Post

          If you look very closely at his avatar, you can just make out the matchsticks propping open his eyelids, I think!
          LOL, I can definitely relate though. I have, on more than a few occasions, fallen asleep in front of the computer. I tend to take short naps, and then wake up all ready to resume where I left off, right in front of the computer!
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

        Bill, that's a pretty crazy schedule you keep there. Do you always sleep this little, even on the weekends? How do you stay awake?

        Paul

        I go through phases.


        For about half the year, I sleep 6-8 hours a day.

        For the other half of the year, I run for months on 4 hours sleep a day.

        The crazy thing is when I pull +24-hour days like I did yesterday.

        My longest single day was 84-hours (3.5 days), and that was about 2-yrs ago.

        Hearing stuff like this, you might think I was in my early 20's -- I am not. I turned 45 last month.

        I have always said that my body-clock is set on a 25-hour day.

        Some weeks, I am getting up at 7am and going to bed after midnight.

        It really screws with people I know, especially my wife.

        A few weeks later, I am waking up at 11am and going to bed at 5 in the morning -- my basic current schedule.

        A few weeks later, I would be waking up in the evening, and going to bed late morning.

        I would flip the clock about every 6 weeks.

        It is harder now, because my wife took a job that keeps her on the road 5-6 days a week.

        (For some silly reason, she had always wanted to be a truck driver. So I paid for her to go to truck driving school at the beginning of the year. Now she is an OTR truck driver. Jokes expected and appreciated.)

        I have to be awake between 7am-9am and 5pm-10pm now, since I have the kids by myself.

        On weekends, I often have to stay up all day, regardless of how I feel. Once in a while, I get a break, because my wife is home and she helps with the kids, or one of our friends will take the kids for a day or two on the weekends.

        That gives me an opportunity to catch up a little bit on my sleep and to rejuvenate my sanity.
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        • Profile picture of the author paulie888
          Originally Posted by tpw View Post


          I go through phases.


          For about half the year, I sleep 6-8 hours a day.

          For the other half of the year, I run for months on 4 hours sleep a day.

          The crazy thing is when I pull +24-hour days like I did yesterday.

          My longest single day was 84-hours (3.5 days), and that was about 2-yrs ago.

          Hearing stuff like this, you might think I was in my early 20's -- I am not. I turned 45 last month.

          I have always said that my body-clock is set on a 25-hour day.

          Some weeks, I am getting up at 7am and going to bed after midnight.

          It really screws with people I know, especially my wife.

          A few weeks later, I am waking up at 11am and going to bed at 5 in the morning -- my basic current schedule.

          A few weeks later, I would be waking up in the evening, and going to bed late morning.

          I would flip the clock about every 6 weeks.

          It is harder now, because my wife took a job that keeps her on the road 5-6 days a week.

          (For some silly reason, she had always wanted to be a truck driver. So I paid for her to go to truck driving school at the beginning of the year. Now she is an OTR truck driver. Jokes expected and appreciated.)

          I have to be awake between 7am-9am and 5pm-10pm now, since I have the kids by myself.

          On weekends, I often have to stay up all day, regardless of how I feel. Once in a while, I get a break, because my wife is home and she helps with the kids, or one of our friends will take the kids for a day or two on the weekends.

          That gives me an opportunity to catch up a little bit on my sleep and to rejuvenate my sanity.
          It sounds like you're under a lot of pressure to stay awake for extended periods of time. How you stay awake for 84 hours at a stretch is something I cannot fathom doing in my wildest dreams.

          I once tried staying awake for about 48 hours straight, but at the end I was so exhausted I think I was going delirious. How do you stay awake so long and still stay alert and productive?

          I certainly hope you do not drive after staying up for long periods of time, because research has shown that it just like driving drunk, and I wholeheartedly concur - on the several occasions I was driving while severely sleep-deprived, I found myself literally nodding off behind the wheel (research now tells us that the brain goes into involuntary micro-sleep lasting anywhere from half a second to maybe a full second, or sometimes even longer).
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            Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

            I certainly hope you do not drive after staying up for long periods of time, because research has shown that it just like driving drunk, and I wholeheartedly concur - on several occasions I was driving while severely sleep-deprived, and I found myself literally nodding off behind the wheel (research now tells us that the brain goes into involuntary micro-sleep lasting anywhere from half a second to maybe a full second, or sometimes even longer).
            The MythBusters did this one. Which is worse -- driving drunk or driving sleepy?

            Driving sleepy was something like 20% more dangerous than driving drunk.

            My wife gives me a hard time... She always complains that I don't ever leave the house. I only leave to pick the baby up from daycare, or if his ride does not come, I take him to daycare too.

            I try to go grocery shopping only twice a month.

            So driving tired really isn't an issue for me.

            I wouldn't do it, if I was really exhausted. There is nothing so important that it cannot wait until I have had rest.

            And if I am really wiped, I have people who can pick up the baby for me.


            Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

            How do you stay awake so long and still stay alert and productive?
            On the 84-hour stretch, I did go to try to sleep twice during that window. Both times I dozed for a couple minutes and then caught my second wind when I woke up.

            When I first awoke, I dragged for about an hour, then whatever kicked in, and I was good to go for the day.
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            • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
              Originally Posted by tpw View Post

              The MythBusters did this one. Which is worse -- driving drunk or driving sleepy?

              Driving sleepy was something like 20% more dangerous than driving drunk.

              My wife gives me a hard time... She always complains that I don't ever leave the house. I only leave to pick the baby up from daycare, or if his ride does not come, I take him to daycare too.

              I try to go grocery shopping only twice a month.

              So driving tired really isn't an issue for me.

              I wouldn't do it, if I was really exhausted. There is nothing so important that it cannot wait until I have had rest.

              And if I am really wiped, I have people who can pick up the baby for me.




              On the 84-hour stretch, I did go to try to sleep twice during that window. Both times I dozed for a couple minutes and then caught my second wind when I woke up.

              When I first awoke, I dragged for about an hour, then whatever kicked in, and I was good to go for the day.
              Bill,

              Its 10.45am here and you're starting to make me feel sleepy just imagining this. I'm going to have to avoid this thread, I'm off to an exhibition in an hour and I need to be alert. Go to sleep you naughty man.
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            • Profile picture of the author paulie888
              Originally Posted by tpw View Post

              The MythBusters did this one. Which is worse -- driving drunk or driving sleepy?

              Driving sleepy was something like 20% more dangerous than driving drunk.

              My wife gives me a hard time... She always complains that I don't ever leave the house. I only leave to pick the baby up from daycare, or if his ride does not come, I take him to daycare too.

              I try to go grocery shopping only twice a month.

              So driving tired really isn't an issue for me.

              I wouldn't do it, if I was really exhausted. There is nothing so important that it cannot wait until I have had rest.

              And if I am really wiped, I have people who can pick up the baby for me.
              Well, it's good to know that you're aware of your limitations, and also that you have people to fall back on in case you're in no condition to drive.

              It's funny how sometimes a short little nap can be very refreshing, even when we're severely sleep deprived. I suppose that is probably what inspired Da Vinci to create his Polyphasic sleep schedule.
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              • Profile picture of the author tpw
                Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

                It's funny how sometimes a short little nap can be very refreshing, even when we're severely sleep deprived. I suppose that is probably what inspired Da Vinci to create his Polyphasic sleep schedule.

                Between you, Paul Myers and Alexa Smith, you all keep me bouncing!!!

                To Google to see what the heck you folks are talking about...

                Polyphasic sleep, a term coined by early 20th century psychologist J.S. Szymanski, refers to the practice of sleeping multiple times in a 24-hour period--usually more than two, in contrast to biphasic sleep--and does not imply any particular sleep schedule. ...

                I never missed not finishing college until a few weeks ago when you all educated folk started hammering me with all this new gall dern vocabulary!!!

                I is a prfessional ghost rider fer 10 yars, with a wide vocabulary, but yall keep stumping me with all yer big, fancy werds!!!
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                  • Profile picture of the author tpw
                    Originally Posted by Ken Strong View Post

                    OK, NOW it's 3AM for me. Why am I still up?
                    Because subliminally, you were instructed by the subject of this thread to be "up at 3am working".

                    You had to comply, because the hypnotic message was THAT powerful!!!



                    Originally Posted by DireStraits View Post

                    Does that sort of stuff really work properly for anyone? I mean, is it sustainable?

                    I've heard of a lot of people trying it, optimistic that it'll better serve them, and that they'll be all the more productive for it - but ultimately, for some reason or another, they seem to abandon it. I don't know anyone who's stuck with it. :confused:

                    I might have to read up on it and give it a try some time. I feel kind of guilty sleeping for 6-8 hours at a time.

                    Those in the medical profession tend to do it a lot, with frequent 10-15 minute naps during the day.

                    Those who "try it out" are not usually committed to the practice, because they have no compelling reason to keep it up for more than a few days at a time.

                    I am up too late tonight... Later than I wanted anyhow...

                    So I am going to take my nap in my chair and not my bed... That makes it much easier to wake up when I need to do so... Gonna lean back and put my legs on the desk... And when the kids wake me at 7, it will be very easy to take my legs down and get back to the real world of daily living on this kind of schedule.

                    Bottom line... It can work for you, if you are truly committed to making it a daily habit...
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                    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
                      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                      Those in the medical profession tend to do it a lot, with frequent 10-15 minute naps during the day.

                      Those who "try it out" are not usually committed to the practice, because they have no compelling reason to keep it up for more than a few days at a time.

                      I am up too late tonight... Later than I wanted anyhow...

                      So I am going to take my nap in my chair and not my bed... That makes it much easier to wake up when I need to do so... Gonna lean back and put my legs on the desk... And when the kids wake me at 7, it will be very easy to take my legs down and get back to the real world of daily living on this kind of schedule.

                      Bottom line... It can work for you, if you are truly committed to making it a daily habit...
                      Bill, it sounds like you've accumulated some experience implementing a polyphasic type of sleep pattern.

                      I can see doctors sleeping this way, especially given their hectic first few years of residency where they simply cannot sleep like normal human beings even if they wanted to. However, it seems like the majority revert back to normal sleep patterns, with the exception of a few rare cases.

                      Given your earlier explanation about how you sleep, I take it that the longest period of time in which you've continually implemented a true polyphasic type of sleep pattern has been approximately 6 months? Do you think you suffered any ill-effects from doing this for that length of time?
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                        Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

                        Given your earlier explanation about how you sleep, I take it that the longest period of time in which you've continually implemented a true polyphasic type of sleep pattern has been approximately 6 months? Do you think you suffered any ill-effects from doing this for that length of time?

                        The longest periods have been 6-8 months, yes.

                        No ill-effects.

                        One day, I just go to bed as normal and wake up 8 hours later. Then I am in the reverse cycle again.

                        I always want to get back into the 4-hr cycle, because I am frequently more productive, but it is gone, just like that. I spend several months trying to figure out how I can get back into cycle, but my body just won't do it.

                        Then one day, I will wake up 4 hours later and stay up. It is like the planet doing a polar-magnetic shift. Then I am riding it again until the next reversal.
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                        • Profile picture of the author paulie888
                          Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                          The longest periods have been 6-8 months, yes.

                          No ill-effects.

                          One day, I just go to bed as normal and wake up 8 hours later. Then I am in the reverse cycle again.

                          I always want to get back into the 4-hr cycle, because I am frequently more productive, but it is gone, just like that. I spend several months trying to figure out how I can get back into cycle, but my body just won't do it.

                          Then one day, I will wake up 4 hours later and stay up. It is like the planet doing a polar-magnetic shift. Then I am riding it again until the next reversal.
                          It sounds like your body cycles through different sleep patterns involuntarily, going by what you have described.

                          Perhaps your body is involuntarily shifting you to continuous 8 hour sleep patterns as needed to prevent you from inadvertently and permanently harming yourself through extended polyphasic sleep?

                          I don't know this for sure, of course, but I'm just theorizing. Our bodies have self-preservation mechanisms in place, and perhaps this is how they manifest themselves when you're pushing the boundaries in terms of sleep deprivation.
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                    • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
                      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

                      I'm skeptical that it really works as promised.
                      Same here.

                      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

                      I just don't see the point of subjecting myself to something that could possibly have long-term health implications, just to squeeze a few more productive hours into my day.
                      And that is my concern, really - and the reason I'm skeptical.

                      Originally Posted by Alexandre Valois View Post

                      The people I know who attempted it have all reverted back after a while, not because it didn't work for them, but because the schedule can completely alienate you from a normal social life. It's one of those very extreme lifestyle change I'm leaving to others... Raw Vegan is the most extreme I'm willing to go
                      Yeah, that makes sense.

                      It probably wouldn't matter to me though, as I'm about as anti-social, introverted and lonerish as they come, LOL.

                      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                      Those in the medical profession tend to do it a lot, with frequent 10-15 minute naps during the day.

                      Those who "try it out" are not usually committed to the practice, because they have no compelling reason to keep it up for more than a few days at a time.
                      This also makes sense. Damn peoples' lack of determination. :rolleyes:

                      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                      So I am going to take my nap in my chair and not my bed... That makes it much easier to wake up when I need to do so... Gonna lean back and put my legs on the desk...
                      Ouch - sounds potentially painful, Bill.

                      I stayed at my friend's house for a few days 2-3 weeks back, and slept in a chair with my feet/legs across his coffee table. Couldn't stand up straight or move my neck for days!

                      Sleep tight! :p
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                        Originally Posted by DireStraits View Post

                        Yeah, that makes sense.

                        It probably wouldn't matter to me though, as I'm about as anti-social, introverted and lonerish as they come, LOL.
                        I personally love the nightlife way too much and can hardly see myself taking naps in a corner every 3 hours during an all-night rave party....

                        Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

                        Some of the scientific findings don't look so promising, such as this one conducted by the Canadian military - "Under extreme circumstances where sleep cannot be achieved continuously, research on napping shows that 10- to 20-minute naps at regular intervals during the day can help relieve some of the sleep deprivation and thus maintain ... performance for several days. However, researchers caution that levels of performance achieved using ultrashort sleep (short naps) to temporarily replace normal sleep are always well below that achieved when fully rested."
                        Paul,

                        This research however studies what is commonly referred to as "power naps", not polyphasic sleep. One of the core principle behind polyphasic sleep is that the sleep periods must follow a very strict interval so that the body is forced to modify and optimize it's sleeping patterns and cycles.

                        If you miss on even just one of these naps, you'll be out of it for up to 48 hours from my friend's experience. Nothing to do with short naps here and there to give yourself a jolt of energy.
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                        • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
                          Originally Posted by Alexandre Valois View Post

                          I personally love the nightlife way too much and can hardly see myself taking naps in a corner every 3 hours during an all-night rave party....
                          Ah ... I like a good night out myself (sometimes on my own, too, lol), and often pull all-nighters when I do. I didn't think about that. That might be awkward.

                          Well, gonna read up about it all anyway.
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                          • Profile picture of the author Alexandre Valois
                            Or planning to go to the movies to see a 2-hour film? Leaves you exactly 60 minutes to get back or find a place to crash.. Those are the kind of extreme drawbacks my friends experienced, which made me politely decline their offer to join them on that one
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              • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
                Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

                ... create his Polyphasic sleep schedule.
                Does that sort of stuff really work properly for anyone? I mean, is it sustainable?

                I've heard of a lot of people trying it, optimistic that it'll better serve them, and that they'll be all the more productive for it - but ultimately, for some reason or another, they seem to abandon it. I don't know anyone who's stuck with it. :confused:

                I might have to read up on it and give it a try some time. I feel kind of guilty sleeping for 6-8 hours at a time.
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                • Profile picture of the author paulie888
                  Originally Posted by DireStraits View Post

                  Does that sort of stuff really work properly for anyone? I mean, is it sustainable?

                  I've heard of a lot of people trying it, optimistic that it'll better serve them, and that they'll be all the more productive for it - but ultimately, for some resaon or another, they seem to abandon it. I don't know anyone who's stuck with it. :confused:

                  I might have to read up on it and give it a try some time. I feel kind of guilty sleeping for 6-8 hours at a time.
                  I'm skeptical that it really works as promised.

                  I'm not so sure I want to turn myself into a human guinea pig testing out this unproven hypothesis (so far, I've yet to see any scientific evidence that proves this sleep schedule works). I just don't see the point of subjecting myself to something that could possibly have long-term health implications, just to squeeze a few more productive hours into my day.

                  I have read that some people swear by it, but I wonder if anyone has implemented this continually on a long-term basis, i.e. 2 years or longer.
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                  Originally Posted by DireStraits View Post

                  Does that sort of stuff really work properly for anyone? I mean, is it sustainable?

                  I've heard of a lot of people trying it, optimistic that it'll better serve them, and that they'll be all the more productive for it - but ultimately, for some reason or another, they seem to abandon it. I don't know anyone who's stuck with it. :confused:

                  I might have to read up on it and give it a try some time. I feel kind of guilty sleeping for 6-8 hours at a time.


                  The people I know who attempted it have all reverted back after a while, not because it didn't work for them, but because the schedule can completely alienate you from a normal social life. It's one of those very extreme lifestyle change I'm leaving to others... Raw Vegan is the most extreme I'm willing to go
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                  Originally Posted by DireStraits View Post

                  I've heard of a lot of people trying it, optimistic that it'll better serve them, and that they'll be all the more productive for it - but ultimately, for some reason or another, they seem to abandon it. I don't know anyone who's stuck with it. :confused:

                  I might have to read up on it and give it a try some time.
                  My "best online friend" has been doing it consistently for many years now, and loves it.

                  It was originally recommended to her by a neurologist.

                  The links under the third sub-heading of the first sidebar of her blog will interest you.
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                  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
                    Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                    My "best online friend" has been doing it consistently for many years now, and loves it.

                    It was originally recommended to her by a neurologist.

                    The links under the third sub-heading of the first sidebar of her blog will interest you.
                    Some of the scientific findings don't look so promising, such as this one conducted by the Canadian military - "Under extreme circumstances where sleep cannot be achieved continuously, research on napping shows that 10- to 20-minute naps at regular intervals during the day can help relieve some of the sleep deprivation and thus maintain ... performance for several days. However, researchers caution that levels of performance achieved using ultrashort sleep (short naps) to temporarily replace normal sleep are always well below that achieved when fully rested."
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                    Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                    My "best online friend" has been doing it consistently for many years now, and loves it.

                    It was originally recommended to her by a neurologist.

                    The links under the third sub-heading of the first sidebar of her blog will interest you.
                    Ahhh - Ms. Mironova, huh (sp)?

                    Thanks, I'll check it out. I've seen her blog before but must've overlooked that bit (unless it wasn't there when I visited).

                    Cheers.
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                      Originally Posted by DireStraits View Post

                      Ahhh - Ms. Mironova, huh (sp)?
                      Indeed. I think "huh" is probably the right spelling. I've actually seen it spelled "hunh", but I don't know really how you'd pronounce that.
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                      • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
                        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                        Indeed. I think "huh" is probably the right spelling. I've actually seen it spelled "hunh", but I don't know really how you'd pronounce that.
                        You know what I meant (her name)!

                        *mumble ... pedantic ... mumble*
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          Originally Posted by tpw View Post

          I have always said that my body-clock is set on a 25-hour day.
          Many people's are. And the ones that aren't are usually set on a 26-hour day. Most people's "natural, biological clock", according to recent medical/neurophysiological research, appears to be set for a more-than-24-hour cycle. Strangely.

          And for the record, this is about the earliest in the day I ever post here (11am UK time - and it isn't even my first post, today).

          I sleep late and get up late; always have done - probably always will.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jurrie
      Hehe, i feel with you TPW , it's kinda the same here.
      i'm not a morning person, so since it is 11.30 am here atm, i am going through hell, lol
      i'm at my best during the evening and early night hours being from 8 pm till like 3 pm.
      It's strange to say, but in between these hourse I have the most inspiration to write and create.
      i get up at 7 to drive the kids to school and then it's coffee and reading , posting time for me


      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      Yesterday, I worked from 11am to 12pm the following day -- Monday.

      I slept 4 hours, and got back up.

      I worked from 4pm to 5pm. Went and picked up my youngest from daycare, and played with him until his bedtime at 9:30 pm.

      I have been working since, and it is now 2:40 am. I am wiped, but I will work for another hour before sleeping for 3 hrs.

      I have to be up at 7am to get the kids ready and off to school. The first two leave at 7:40. The youngest leaves at 8:30.

      At that time, I have the option of sleep until 4pm, but I seldom take full advantage of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Slade556
    Working at odd hours seems to be when I am most productive. I think it might be a circadian rhythm thing. Just one of the several great thing about working online instead of a 9 to 5 (or longer).
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by Slade556 View Post

      Working at odd hours seems to be when I am most productive. I think it might be a circadian rhythm thing. Just one of the several great thing about working online instead of a 9 to 5 (or longer).
      I tend to think so myself. My internal clock has always been a little different from others as well, and I remember that even when I was young, I always used to be at my most productive and alert state late into the night. I've always been a night owl, I suppose, and one of the great perks in IM is that I get to work late at night all the time. It really doesn't bother me, and I'm pretty sure I work better (and more productively) at this hour anyway.

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    It's 5.28pm here on this side of the world but usually i would work that late as well
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    Originally Posted by 12Magazine View Post

    I am I'm from California
    Well, if you're from California it's not quite 3 am yet, is it?
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  • Profile picture of the author aandersen
    Everyday...

    However, it is mostly by choice. I actually prefer a night-time schedule. I don't really like being up during the day time, I don't have any obligations (like children) that require to be up, and I get a lot more accomplished this way.

    It's when I'm up into the "late" afternoon (or even worse into the next night) that I start getting delirious and realize that I'm working too much.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by aandersen View Post

      Everyday...

      However, it is mostly by choice. I actually prefer a night-time schedule. I get a lot more accomplished this way.

      It's when I'm up into the "late" afternoon (or even worse into the next night) that I start getting delirious and realize that I'm working too much.
      Same here, something about the peace and tranquility of the night makes me a lot more productive than during the day. I'm just glad and grateful that IM affords me the choice to work whenever I want to.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Lee
    I currently sleep at 5 am and wake up at 12 noon lunchtime. I'm more focused and get a lot more things done when there's no distraction at night.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by Michael Lee View Post

      I currently sleep at 5 am and wake up at 12 noon lunchtime. I'm more focused and get a lot more things done when there's no distraction at night.
      Michael, your sleep/work schedule sounds almost exactly like mine. I tend to prefer working deep into the night/early morning, and waking up around noon or later. I tend to be more motivated and focused at night as well, and as a result of this I end up being a lot more productive.
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    • Profile picture of the author JDArchitecture
      All the time!

      I'm more productive when it's dark. Thank God I don't live in Alaska!
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by JDArchitecture View Post

        All the time!

        I'm more productive when it's dark. Thank God I don't live in Alaska!

        If you did, you would make money for six months and not for six months. LOL
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        • Profile picture of the author paulie888
          Originally Posted by tpw View Post

          If you did, you would make money for six months and not for six months. LOL
          Bill, that comment of yours made me think of a scene from the movie 'Insomnia' which stars Al Pacino. He is called up to Alaska to investigate a case in the summertime, and he ends up suffering from serious insomnia issues because the sun never sets in Alaska during the summer! That must be incredibly disconcerting, and I don't know how the people there can handle that for six months out of the year. LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author gskesavan
    I work from 10.30 PM to 6.30 AM which is my usual working hours because it is fun and peaceful. Everyone's asleep when I work my ass off and everyone's working their ass off when I sleep happily. Gives me a good feel as internet marketer
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by gskesavan View Post

      I work from 10.30 PM to 6.30 AM which is my usual working hours because it is fun and peaceful. Everyone's asleep when I work my ass off and everyone's working their ass off when I sleep happily. Gives me a good feel as internet marketer
      If you have other people in your household, there's also another benefit - you usually don't have to worry about being distracted from your sleep during the day, as everyone is hard at work away from the house!
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        Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

        If you have other people in your household, there's also another benefit - you usually don't have to worry about being distracted from your sleep during the day, as everyone is hard at work away from the house!

        I am inclined to make a funny comment here, but I am going to let it pass...
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        • Profile picture of the author paulie888
          Originally Posted by tpw View Post

          I am inclined to make a funny comment here, but I am going to let it pass...
          Please share, I have a gut feeling that it's going to be pretty amusing! LOL
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            Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

            Please share, I have a gut feeling that it's going to be pretty amusing! LOL
            OK... But remember, you made me do it... This is your fault...


            Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

            If you have other people in your household, there's also another benefit - you usually don't have to worry about being distracted from your sleep during the day, as everyone is hard at work away from the house!

            There is also another benefit...

            When the flame goes out in your marriage... You have the perfect excuse to not to have to go to bed with your spouse...
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            • Profile picture of the author paulie888
              Originally Posted by tpw View Post

              There is also another benefit...

              When the flame goes out in your marriage... You have the perfect excuse to not to have to go to bed with your spouse...
              LOL, it's a good thing your wife is currently a truck driver. I'm not sure how kindly she'd take to your odd sleeping patterns if she had a regular 9-5 job and slept at home every night.
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              • Profile picture of the author gskesavan
                Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                OK... But remember, you made me do it... This is your fault...





                There is also another benefit...

                When the flame goes out in your marriage... You have the perfect excuse to not to have to go to bed with your spouse...
                LOL! Thanks for the idea, but am pretty sure that won't happen.

                Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

                If you have other people in your household, there's also another benefit - you usually don't have to worry about being distracted from your sleep during the day, as everyone is hard at work away from the house!
                Hehe .. The only thing I like about sleeping from morning till afternoon is the I always get to see the pleasant timings whenever I'm awake.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart S
    I haven't had to...yet

    I wouldn't mind doing it a couple of times though, because I really try and only work on things that I like doing so it wouldn't be a problem.
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  • Profile picture of the author Maverick4090
    I find it's easiest to concentrate on getting things done late at night/early in the morning. Everyone else is in bed and there are no distractions. No one to call, nowhere to go. It's truly easy to sit down and get to work. (It's 2:35am as I write this)
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  • Profile picture of the author DaveMassingham
    I will be up at 3am tonight! Because I am in Australia and some of my mentors and business partners are in the States, I am up all hours of the night speaking with them either on the phone or Skype.
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  • Profile picture of the author Martin2010
    Afi yes of course.

    It's becomeing quite regular these days.

    My day starts off with the kids at around 6ish and then off to my day job. Then once home it's with the kids again until around 7pm after reading them a bedtime story and then it's into the home office to see if i can crack make some extra income until 2-3 in the morning.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bingo123
      Originally Posted by Martin2010 View Post

      Afi yes of course.

      It's becomeing quite regular these days.

      My day starts off with the kids at around 6ish and then off to my day job. Then once home it's with the kids again until around 7pm after reading them a bedtime story and then it's into the home office to see if i can crack make some extra income until 2-3 in the morning.
      Wow man, how do you function on 3 hours sleep? That can't be good for you. Hope you don't burn yourself out and throw in the towel on IM. I nearly did that once
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  • Profile picture of the author AFI
    What a thread this turned out to be! You guys are hilarious!
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    • Profile picture of the author Tashi Mortier
      Somehow I love working at night - it's just so quiet and no one distracts you. All the friends are in bed - no chat windows opening, no telephone calls.

      I just hate go get up early though... My natural rhythm seems to be getting up at 12 o'clock and going to bed at 4 AM. I wake up by myself at said time and get tired by myself (no use of caffeine etc.)

      Usually I have to get out of bed for lectures or other appointments at other times but I always return to this rhythm on week-ends or holidays.

      The good thing is: I live in Europe so those times convert to a normal business day in the USA
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by Tashi Mortier View Post

        Somehow I love working at night - it's just so quiet and no one distracts you. All the friends are in bed - no chat windows opening, no telephone calls.
        This happens to me too, but I have online friends all over the planet, especially in the UK, Pakistan and Australia, so whatever time I am awake, someone is always around to chat on skype.


        p.s. Did you notice the 4 hrs between posts. I might take another nap.
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    • Profile picture of the author adelainewatson
      I start to work during 8am until 4am.. This business of mine really needs a lot of time.. Thank GOD I'm still able to manage this business for almost a year.
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  • Profile picture of the author AFI
    I can't fall asleep fast enough to take power naps during the day. I guess I get anxiety about having to wake up in 15 minutes, I feel under pressure to fall asleep right away! LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexd10
    I'm a big fan of working late, I often find it is the best time to work for me. Also being from the UK it means more of my US colleagues are online
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    Just woke up... 4am. Time to make the magic happen. What is on tap for today?
    • Consider finishing a new theme for themeforest
    • Finish up a membership site
    • Upgrade an old site to WP 3.0 and pimp it out as a multi-site autoblog. That'll be around 20 new sites spewing out RSS fed love.
    • Watch the walking dead episode 5
    • Sit around and read IM and Football forums.
    • Show concern for sings of cabin fever
    • Go outside and interact with people
    • Flirt with girls at starbucks
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  • Profile picture of the author forexaffiliate
    Depending on your personality I guess, I used to work late nights when I started in affiliate marketing several years ago. I had some of my best creative moments late at night.
    Now I work in the day, and quit early, get to my homeoffice around 10 pm, never work after 3 pm. Short days at work is one of the greatest luxuries of having a successful and fairly automated affiliate business
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    3AM? Hell no girl! I went to bed at 5AM yesterday and was already up at 10PM :/
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    My usual hours are typically 3am - 11am. Ive been doing this now full time for 2 years. I often get strange looks when I tell people Im off to the cafe for breakfast at 2pm
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  • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
    I am the king of working odd hours. I usually like to sleep in and then work in the afternoon. So, if I get going I find myself awake at all hours of the night. But, that is how my body works, so it works out well.

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    Sometimes I do, when there's a project I must finish soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
    Had I ran across this thread last night (or this morning I guess) I could have replied saying I was up at 3am working...

    Then again 3am in Iraq is actually 7pm (give or take 3 hours) US time so I guess I am quite often up at 3am (US time) working since its actually 11am (+/- 3 hours here)...
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  • Profile picture of the author FostinWD
    well last night was the 2nd night in a row I've been up to 3am-3.30am... it's crazy, but I'm THAT determined to make this happen hehe
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  • Profile picture of the author Bingo123
    I tell you, I often find myself up late doing this. I am determined to keep my day job, because I think there are too many variables in IM that we can't control and would hate to suddenly start losing my income.
    So for now I keep my day job which I enjoy, and my IM efforts go to an early retirement fund....but yes, I often have to force myself to go to bed at 11pm or so, because I know I have to get up to go to my 9-5 the next day. It's not really work though when you love what you're doing.
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    I always try to cut my self off from working once it hits 11 because without sleep im a zombie the next day, and a zombie cant work efficiently.
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    It's 1:52 AM and I don't have any plan to sleep soon
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Originally Posted by AFI View Post

    I oftentimes work very late into the night because I'm trying to make some action happen here. I'm getting pretty close to breaking through with some of my sites.

    Does anyone else work odd hours in order to get your work done?
    I do some of my best work at the wee hours of the night /morning. It's probably all the darn coffee I drink during the day. lol

    One of the greatest benefits of this industry is that once you've got your systems set in place you can basically work whenever you want to (assuming you've outsourced customer service, etc.). Lately, I've seemed to have my biggest breakthroughs right after an all night rave.......

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  • Profile picture of the author SleeplessInBC
    I think this whole thread is funny. I normally do have a funny sleep schedule, can shift on a dime and then all of a sudden i'm on a totally opposite sleep schedule within one day.
    But honestly, it's flipped since the day I started writing. I'm duplicating all you fine writers out there!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Yep, I usually work until 3-4 AM. I've always been a night person, but there are advantages too. For the last 5 hours or so of my work day there are no phone calls, no one drops by to visit, my wife is in bed sleeping, and the dog is sleeping. No distractions! Great for productivity.

    Then I'll sleep anywhere from 4 to 7 hours, drink some coffee, read the morning paper, and slowly get back into my work routine.
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  • i'm usually doing seo work at 3am... im a night kind of guy
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    I use to be a fulltime songwriter, and I found that working at three am while everyone else in my region (immediate energy field) was at rest... produced more creativity for me, the whole energy is calmer and less disorienting, possibly because there was noone else around vamping the energy, I dont know... call it crazy, but I still do it.

    3am is my best,most productive work time. Plus I work on international trade deals with other countries part time...so its a good time to do that... My webdesign partner is from the UK so 3 am is a good time for us to work alot together.

    I guess I have attracted partners who are harmonic with my favorite work time. That makes sense.

    Yes. Its my habit, has been for years.
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    1 am here, n all's well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clyde
    I let my workers do the grunt work white I plot for more money.

    I've only stayed up late to play video games.

    I'm evil!
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  • Profile picture of the author Russell Hall
    Oh yeah... welcome to the club.

    I have kids so I generally get them off to bed and then get back up around 10.30 to do a few hours work until 2 or 3am which are some of my most productive hours.
    Staying focused and on task is the thing though.

    I've had days where I knew I could only be online a max of 4 hours and got more done in that time than I often do in 10 or 12 hours.

    I reckon most really successful people online at some stage have all worked the 14 to 16 hour days,... until they figured out a smarter and better way and that's when true success floods in (I'm still waiting but I can't feel it coming!!!)

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    • Profile picture of the author florincms
      Yep pretty often . I stay and work until late espacially when I have my exams at the university
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    Time is immaterial when theres money to be made, a pity the Internet has made many of us ignore normal sleeping habits
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    • Profile picture of the author waterotter
      Originally Posted by dagaul101 View Post

      Time is immaterial when theres money to be made, a pity the Internet has made many of us ignore normal sleeping habits
      On the hand, the Internet has allowed us to build international relations with companies/individuals around the world - most while sitting in the comfort of our own homes.

      Where there is a time difference - that's our choice to make - do we or don't we wish to work with someone where there is a 14 hour time difference. Guess it boils down to "choice" - and choice is something we shouldn't take for granted.
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  • Profile picture of the author amo992
    I wish I could sleep during the day and wake at night!

    ugh college!
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  • Profile picture of the author CPApromoter
    Its perfectly understandable that you're working at 3am
    many of us marketers have such afflictions
    check my thread on mental illnesses in marketers
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  • Profile picture of the author jjoshua
    I think I may have the same problem with taking naps...unless I'm really sleepy, I won't usually take an afternoon. Its probably because I feel like I need to wake up soon, so I find it difficult to sleep.
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