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13 years ago

Almost like when people first started putting affiliate links in their posts and people started complaining about it. Then people realised the value that could be involved in it and so it slowly stopped being so much of an issue.

Oh...wait.

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Diana Lane

13 years ago

I think a lot of the protests about the sig banners were generated between the time when Allen closed the first offer that permitted them and the time when he launched an alternative. Of course, there will be some people who are genuinely put out by them for whatever reason, but I think most were just complaining because they thought they'd missed the boat and wanted a sig banner of their own. It would explain why things seem to have got quieter on the subject now.

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Bill Farnham 13 years ago

I still can't get used to all these new animated avatars with the winking eyes and kissing lips. Can't wait for sound to be added...

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- Caleb Spilchen 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Bill Farnham
  
  I still can't get used to all these new animated avatars with the winking eyes and kissing lips. Can't wait for sound to be added...
  
  ~Bill
  
  I can just hear what your avatar would be saying. Knowing the type of things that you use for graphics. It could get very interesting.
  
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  Jeremy Kelsall 13 years ago
  
  Way to make a thread to remind them to complain again
  
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  Ester B 13 years ago
  
  Too true some people are just plain simple complainers.
  
  I agree that alot of what's discussed here is human nature..given some time people get used to things and the "big bad blah -de- blah" merges into the blurr of what is then considered normal and the way of things now.
  
  Some people notice these changes and the reactions to them, like caleb did and others dont at all.
  
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  Caleb Spilchen 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall
  
  Way to make a thread to remind them to complain again
  
  I was actually picking up on a trend . But I didn't mean to relight the flame, oh well, maybe we can get them out of there hiding spots, and convince them to think like us...
  
  Wait, what am I talking about>
  
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- Mohammad Afaq 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Bill Farnham
  
  I still can't get used to all these new animated avatars with the winking eyes and kissing lips. Can't wait for sound to be added...
  
  ~Bill
  
  Oh yeah, SPOT ON
  
  ahhmmm.... what are we talking about here.
  
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scortillion

13 years ago

It’s called the Overton window. You can take people to the edge and there will be complaints and grumblings but will eventually be accepted or at least tolerated. But you have to watch go outside that window and people will rebel.

If you keep repeating this process you can, over time, move people far outside the original boundary.

Just some additional food for thought

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R Hagel

13 years ago

Seems like human nature. When the forum logo was redesigned, people freaked out. Same goes for most sites that make changes (like when Yahoo! has gone through it's major redesigns).

Grocery stores and other retail outlets do major redesigns purposely, just so people go off their usual path and see more items in the store. Of course it's a bit weird at first, but people get used to it quickly.

It happens at home, too. For example, Caleb, has your mom ever re-arranged the livingroom furniture? And were you a little "weirded out" by it when you first saw the new arrangement? But I bet you got used to it quickly, perhaps in a matter of hours.

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MarksWineClub

13 years ago

Generally speaking, any change makes people upset. Heck, my business partner finally gets a smart phone this week and spends 2 days complaining about user interface....it just takes time even when the change is positive.

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Alan Petersen

13 years ago

People hate change but most get adjusted to it. You think this was bad... when I worked in corporate America we switched CRM for the entire company (Fortune 100 company) from JD Edwards to SAP. You aint seen bitching till you go through that.

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Steven Wagenheim

13 years ago

I thought there was going to be refreshments served here.

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Caleb Spilchen

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

I thought there was going to be refreshments served here.

I brought some coke's just for you my dear pal.

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Dan C. Rinnert

13 years ago

So, what's the bottom line here? Warriors are supposed to just drink the Kool-Aid and never express their opinion about anything?

People may complain about change, but not all change is good. So, why shouldn't they speak up?

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DireStraits

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

So, what's the bottom line here? Warriors are supposed to just drink the Kool-Aid and never express their opinion about anything?

People may complain about change, but not all change is good. So, why shouldn't they speak up?

There's no harm in speaking up, at all, I think?

But there's no point in making "threats" to leave in a huff, as some people seem to do, from time-to-time - it simply won't change nothing.

If Allen (or any other forum owner) wants or needs to enhance the monetisation of the forum, then he's going to experiment with and provide different ways for that to happen. And those who complain will do so no matter the form of those changes / additions.

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Caleb Spilchen

13 years ago

Originally Posted by DireStraits

There's no harm in speaking up, at all, I think?

But there's no point in making "threats" to leave in a huff, as some people seem to do, from time-to-time - it simply won't change nothing.

If Allen (or any other forum owner) wants or needs to enhance the monetisation of the forum, then he's going to experiment with and provide different ways for that to happen. And those who complain will do so no matter the form of those changes / additions.

I think it was allen who said it best.

http://www.warriorforum.com/blogs/ad...ior-forum.html

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DireStraits 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen

I think it was allen who said it best.

http://www.warriorforum.com/blogs/ad...ior-forum.html

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Hahaha! I've never seen that before. Awesome.

Cheers.
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- Caleb Spilchen 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by DireStraits
  
  Hahaha! I've never seen that before. Awesome.
  
  Cheers.
  
  In comparison to other forums, this forum has little to no ads. If you look at digitalpoint for example, you can see that he has a whole crapload of flashy banners to get you to buy ad spots.
  
  Allen has one single thread promoting it in a section, that most people never visit.
  
  So he's not even pushing us to buy advertising.
  
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Dan C. Rinnert

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

I thought there was going to be refreshments served here.

I brought some coke's just for you my dear pal.

Hopefully in bottles or cans--not bags.

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Caleb Spilchen

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

Hopefully in bottles or cans--not bags.

Sorry. We only serve milk in a bag.

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Dan C. Rinnert

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen

Sorry. We only serve milk in a bag.

Hard to tell. But I hope that's not a bag of coke.

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Caleb Spilchen

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

Hard to tell. But I hope that's not a bag of coke.

Milk is white. What country do you live in.... And I don't think there is a flavor of coke that comes in white, but then again, you never know in America :d

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tryinhere

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen

Wait, what am I talking about>
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Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen

Milk is white. What country do you live in....

? not sure he meant coca cola buddy ? coke

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Dan C. Rinnert

13 years ago

Originally Posted by tryinhere

? not sure he meant coca cola buddy ? coke

Actually, it was a bit reassuring that he didn't know about the white kind of coke.

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Caleb Spilchen 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

Actually, it was a bit reassuring that he didn't know about the white kind of coke.

While, since I don't do drugs.
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- Jill Carpenter 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim
  
  I thought there was going to be refreshments served here.
  
  I just sent the girl out for some Vodka. Get on the boat Mr. Jersey and get over here to the island quick!
  
  It is afternoon already.
  
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  Steven Wagenheim 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by avenuegirl
  
  I just sent the girl out for some Vodka. Get on the boat Mr. Jersey and get over here to the island quick!
  
  It is afternoon already.
  
  Which island are we talking about? :confused:
  
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  Jill Carpenter 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim
  
  Which island are we talking about? :confused:
  
  Nantucket. But I have to leave this coming Tuesday - so we can go on only a 5-6 day binge here.
  
  Hurry up already.
  
  You missed the warm up bottle of wine, but it was corked anyway.
  
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paulie888

13 years ago

Well, I think he caught on after a while, but it's still comforting to know that Coca Cola was his first thought, and not the other one, lol.

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Caleb Spilchen

13 years ago

Originally Posted by paulie888

Well, I think he caught on after a while, but it's still comforting to know that Coca Cola was his first thought, and not the other one, lol.

Paul, I sent you an e-mail a little while ago by the way....

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Jill Carpenter

13 years ago

They did used to put coke in coke.

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paulie888

13 years ago

Originally Posted by avenuegirl

They did used to put coke in coke.

Jill, I was aware of that too, and frankly I find it quite shocking that they were peddling an extremely addictive substance like cocaine to the general public as recently as the early 20th century. Here's the actual formula used in the original coke....

"Coca — cocaine

Pemberton called for five ounces of coca leaf per gallon of syrup, a significant dose; in 1891, Candler claimed his formula (altered extensively from Pemberton's original) contained only a tenth of this amount. Coca-Cola did once contain an estimated nine milligrams of cocaine per glass, but in 1903 it was removed.[30] Coca-Cola still contains coca flavoring.
After 1904, instead of using fresh leaves, Coca-Cola started using "spent" leaves — the leftovers of the cocaine-extraction process with cocaine trace levels left over at a molecular level.[31] To this day, Coca-Cola uses as an ingredient a cocaine-free coca leaf extract prepared at a Stepan Company plant in Maywood, New Jersey."

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Originally Posted by paulie888

frankly I find it quite shocking that they were peddling an extremely addictive substance like cocaine to the general public as recently as the early 20th century.

I dread to think how you must feel about them peddling an extremely addictive substance like nicotine to the general public as recently as the early 21st Century, then ...

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Dave Patterson 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

Actually, it was a bit reassuring that he didn't know about the white kind of coke.

Made me so giddy I may just go for a bag of milk after all...
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HeySal

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen

Milk is white. What country do you live in.... And I don't think there is a flavor of coke that comes in white, but then again, you never know in America :d

Caleb

ROTFLMAO - Caleb - never try to lie about your age, kewl? It's not gonna work for ya. Um....trust me on this one.

HEY, whatta you guys mean don't drink the kool-aid? I LOVE kool-aid.
Well
Maybe not THEIR kool aid, but get a big pitcher of it and spike it with white lightnin' or at least some ever clear and it's pretty good stuff.......
Which is real fun for us normal folk, but it doesn't mix well with the whiner's systems. Then they get all blubbery and ridiculous.

STEVE...........this was BYOB. Didn't you get your notice?

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DireStraits 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

I thought there was going to be refreshments served here.

As we say in Yorkshire: "ee-arr, Steven; bottoms up!"
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Dave Lianelli

13 years ago

Hey Caleb,

to be honest... I don't even look at the ads anymore. And if others do the same, the effectiveness of these banners and small ads will soon be less than worth it.

Has anyone clicked on of those small "Ads By Warrior Forum"?

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Alan Petersen

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Dave Lianelli

Hey Caleb,

to be honest... I don't even look at the ads anymore. And if others do the same, the effectiveness of these banners and small ads will soon be less than worth it.

Has anyone clicked on of those small "Ads By Warrior Forum"?

I haven't clicked on the small Adsense like Ads yet but I have on the banners even purchased. Like anything in marketing just slapping up a banner up there won't lead to loads of cash. The headline, copy, offer, font, all comes into play.

Yes, a lot of people go into banner blindness mode but a lot of others do not so people need to work on the copy and offer of the banner more than just getting something up there.

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jazbo

13 years ago

Some people hate change. Same in all areas of life.

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Caleb Spilchen

13 years ago

We only turn the coke bottles into BAGS after we drink them.

Bottles to bags: GreenSmart turn coke bottles into laptop bags : Shiny Shiny

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Scott Million

13 years ago

What's the point in complaining... there are a lot of things I like/dislike here, but if I'm ticked off I can leave 'cause guess what? Allen OWNS it, lol. This place is anything but a democracy. Start your own forum if you want it your way.

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13 years ago

Complainers change their complaints, but they never reduce the amount of time spent in complaining.

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James Foster

13 years ago

You know how it is man...

People are afraid of change.

Do something different and there will be an uproar for a while, until everyone accepts this is how things will be from now on... then they find different things to complain about.

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paulie888

13 years ago

Originally Posted by James Foster

You know how it is man...

People are afraid of change.

Do something different and there will be an uproar for a while, until everyone accepts this is how things will be from now on... then they find different things to complain about.

I suppose it's human nature to want to keep the status quo, and change is usually met with resistance and complaints. Overall, I'd say that changes have been for the positive, and Allen has to be congratulated for testing and tweaking things to near-perfection.

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13 years ago

group thanks

you guys are really pretty amusin' at times

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13 years ago

HEYSAL,

What are you trying to say....

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Kay King 13 years ago

I find the signature banners distracting myself - but doesn't matter cause it's not my forum so why gripe?

What I've also noticed is the addition of the larger signature banners has led to quite a few text/link sigs that are over 5 lines now - so maybe that's part of it.

I expect banner blindness sets in after a while, doesn't it?

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  I expect banner blindness sets in after a while, doesn't it?
  
  Yes it does. I tend to rotate mine periodically and that means at least once a week minimum.
  
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13 years ago

People tend to get a little upset when something they are used to changes, but like the net things change all the time, and people just carry on

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