My Virtual Memory is Low....Crucial?

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My computer gave me 5 minutes ago a small notice on the bottom right next to all my icons that my vitual memory is running low and I may lose some things while in enlarges it.
Does this mean my computer is practically out of room?:confused:
Do I need to reformat it? To buy a new one?
Has anyone ever gotten this notice before? Should I ignore it?
Or should I simply just go to a computer whiz forum?

Thanks
#lowcrucial #memory #virtual
  • Profile picture of the author Jake Gray
    One of two things.

    1)Your Hard drive disk is extremely small and it cannot take what you are trying to store on it.
    2)Your amount of RAM (Random Access Memory) is so low.

    Try upgrading both.

    Check this out:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_memory
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Wells
      Originally Posted by Scientific View Post

      One of two things.

      1)Your Hard drive disk is extremely small and it cannot take what you are trying to store on it.
      2)Your amount of RAM (Random Access Memory) is so low.

      Try upgrading both.

      Check this out:
      Virtual memory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
      How many files do you have on your desktop?
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  • Profile picture of the author you2life
    right click on "my computer">properties>advanced>"settings" under performance>advanced from the popped up window>last option is "virtual memory", click on "change" and increase the size.
    hope it helps.
    (i assumed you are running on windows xp)
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  • Profile picture of the author AverageGuy
    delete some unnecessary files, clean trash bin, clean browser history. defrag ur harddriver. usually, should be enough.

    david
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepreneurjay
    Go buy System Mechanic at Walmart, or Target it is $20 bucks pretty cheap makes your computer run like new. I think you can download it online too.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    I'd also like to add that your virtual memory can become very low if you don't fully shut down your computer for extended periods of time. The problem with the Windows OS is that it doesn't fully reclaim your used memory after an application is shut down/closed. The only way to fully reclaim everything is to do a complete reboot of your computer. This is also known as 'memory leaking', and this can have very serious consequences if you don't shut down your computer regularly (I'd say at least once every 48 hours at the bare minimum).
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    • Profile picture of the author KEY
      ccleaner is a top notch program that can clear out
      your old trash, junk, pre-fetch, etc files.

      it is free and you can download it from filehippo
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    • Profile picture of the author DogScout
      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

      I'd also like to add that your virtual memory can become very low if you don't fully shut down your computer for extended periods of time. The problem with the Windows OS is that it doesn't fully reclaim your used memory after an application is shut down/closed. The only way to fully reclaim everything is to do a complete reboot of your computer. This is also known as 'memory leaking', and this can have very serious consequences if you don't shut down your computer regularly (I'd say at least once every 48 hours at the bare minimum).
      So the one computer that ran 7 years without a re-boot or ever being turned off was in jeopardy that whole time? Good thing I had to move!
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      • Profile picture of the author lovespell88
        If this happens only once, do not worry because Windows is going to take care of it. However, if it happens often, it could be that your settings do not allow adjustments. What you can do is ensure that your drive is not full. Check Properties. If the free space amount is below ten percent, you will need to delete some data and free some space. It is either that you use Disk Cleanup or move the files manually to a USB device.
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  • Profile picture of the author petevamp
    I get this message afew times a day my self. However I am also using an older laptop for all my work. Which really doesnt have much space left on it any more. After owning it for 6 years or so now. However I have found that when I try to do to much at once this is where the problem comes in. Most of the time it is from using firefox itself with about 30 windows open. Unfortunatly when you close the windows it is still eating up your memory from all the prior work. There for I open up the windows task manager and end firefox processes. This brings the memeroy back down with out lose of any work. Then just restart firefox and it will ask you to restore.

    This also helps if you see any programs still running that you closed out awhile ago. One imparticular is open office. Even after you close open office it will still run in the background of your computer with out you knowing. There for do the same as I said for firefox and find any unused unclosed programs and end their process. This should solve your problem for the time being. But it would be best to restart your computer as soon as possible after saving your work.

    You might also try running malwarebytes. For you may have something infecting your computer. It is best to run any and all virus, malware, spyware or any other protection programs have. If none of the above works temporally then you may need to look into upgrading your memory and or harddrive as mentioned above. Best of luck to you hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author TonyAG
    I highly recommend downloading CCleaner. You can delete unnecessary files on your computer and increase performance. It's also free.
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  • Profile picture of the author mgpweb
    I used to have this problem especially while running many large programs at the same time like photoshop and dreamweaver. I used to continuously clean up my computer to make more room, but the only thing that stopped this message was upgrading my hard drive.
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  • Profile picture of the author rickfrazier1
    I can't believe how much misinformation there is about computers. I suppose it's much like Internet Marketing, a lot of people repeating things they don't fully understand.

    Your computer has two types of memory that you can do anything about. Your hard disk drive (HDD) is primarily for long term storage of data, and your Random Access Memory (RAM) is for temporary use while the system is operating. When you open a program, it is loaded from the HDD into RAM and program execution begins. If you don't have enough RAM (memory) to store the entire program, the operating system only loads the first part of it, then pages the rest into "virtual memory" which is a termpoary file that resides on your Hard Drive. If you open several programs at once (not unusual at all) the operating system manages the virtual memory and RAM to keep the most important program in RAM, while paging the rest as needed to the Virtual Memory file on the HDD. If you repeatedly need extra space and the Virtual memory file isn't large enough, the operating system will pop up a message to that effect. If you see this only occasionally, you really don't have much of a problem.

    There is some truth in some of the other responses, but I think the information has been distorted somewhat through the many people that have passed on various bits...
    1) Microsoft, like many operating systems, doesn't always reclaim the RAM that a program uses when the program terminates. Generally, if the program ends normally, the RAM goes back into the pool to be re-used. If the program crashes out, or is improperly coded, it may not allocate RAM properly, and the Operating system cannot reclaim it. (One of the worst offenders is Internet Explorer. It seems to crash a lot more than it needs to.) As a result, after a period of time, the system may be running on less and less RAM. This causes the operating system to page the active programs into Virtual Memory file sooner or more often, causing the system to slow, and you may also get the virtual memory error message.
    2) It is not necessary to reboot your comptuer every day or even 48 hours. Generally, you should be able to run your computer at least a week without needing to reboot, even if you use a bunch of different programs. Unless, of course, you have applications that crash a lot on you. I have servers that run six months or more at a time without a reboot, and have had workstations run a month without issues if they were running reasonably coded programs. I routinely carry my notebook back and forth between home and work without rebooting it for a week or more at a time. Not to be recommended because of potential shock damage to the HDD from carrying it around running, but it is possible if you are careful.
    3) you can reduce the likelihood of having problems with low memory or virtual memory errors by adding RAM. Most computers run with very low memory, compared to what they should because manufacturers try to sell systems for a minimum dollar to make them attractive to consumers. Windows XP should really have at least 1GB (Gigabyte), and is happier with 2GB. Vista pretty much should have 2GB just to get by, as should Windows 7. Putting more than 4GB in is not all that useful for Vista, but Windows 7 can handle more. These days, RAM is pretty cheap.
    4) if you have the extra space on your HDD, you can expand your Virtual Memory file, but you may need to defragment the HDD first to get Windows to make a larger Virtual Memory File. Bear in mind the first thing you should do is add more RAM, then consider a larger Virtual Memory file if you care about speed (A larger Virtual memory file just means more programs can be paged onto it, and this is much slower than operating the same program out of RAM). If you aren't as concerned with speed, the cheapest method is to expand your Virtual Memory file if you have the extra room on your HDD.
    5) many people make the problem worse with all of the extra crap they have running on their computer. Everything counts and uses up RAM. That animated wallpaper (background) that looks like an aquarium, the theme that has the funny looking cursor you use. The add-on applications that every additional program downloads at the same time as a useful application. I've seen systems with three or four "search bars" in the same web browser. Any number of other programs that are pre-loaded to make them start faster. Each of these items takes RAM and makes the computer appear to run slower. It actually runs as fast, it's just running a lot more applications than you may realize in the background. This makes the one you want to run in the foreground appear to be slower than it should.

    Hope this sheds a little light on the subject...
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  • Profile picture of the author imediazone
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    The best program that comes in my mind for cleaning your pc is Tuneup Utilities, and also use an antivirus like nod32, maybe you have a little virus.
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    • Profile picture of the author tfos4941
      I have to same thing with one of my computers, it has never caused me any problems though, I just close the box and continue.
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      • Profile picture of the author wanna-succeed
        Originally Posted by imediazone View Post

        The best program that comes in my mind for cleaning your pc is Tuneup Utilities, and also use an antivirus like nod32, maybe you have a little virus.
        Lol, no....
        Unless you sent me one...:rolleyes:
        I scan my computer regularly, and my anti-virus is as good as they get.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    The most common cause of this issue is insufficient RAM, and the easiest way to get rid of this is to upgrade your machine (this applies to both Mac and Windows machines) to at least 4GB of RAM.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rachel Healy
    Thank you, RickFrasier1 for a really useful post, I learned a lot from it.

    I've been getting these calls from my computer telling me my virtual memory is low more frequently in the past couple of months but had no idea what to do about it.

    Didn't even know my computer's RAM - just looked it up - only 512MB of RAM, with total disc space of 71.4GB, of which I'm using just 31.8GB.

    Next question, how do I increase my computers RAM (without buying a new computer, that is!).

    Thanks,
    Rachel
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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Luxton
      Originally Posted by Rachel Healy View Post

      Thank you, RickFrasier1 for a really useful post, I learned a lot from it.

      I've been getting these calls from my computer telling me my virtual memory is low more frequently in the past couple of months but had no idea what to do about it.

      Didn't even know my computer's RAM - just looked it up - only 512MB of RAM, with total disc space of 71.4GB, of which I'm using just 31.8GB.

      Next question, how do I increase my computers RAM (without buying a new computer, that is!).

      Thanks,
      Rachel
      Rachel,

      My wife's computer is configured like yours.

      She doesn't have much installed except Kaspersky AV, Skype, Firefox and IE and the thing runs like treacle.

      Deleting your temporary internet files helps a bit as does deleting and reinstalling Skype using Revo Uninstaller (I was surprised to see thousands of files taking up over 250MB).

      For more technical issues I will defer to Rick Frazier, though an IT support guy I talked too was explaining that, with 512MB RAM you have to add in increments of 512MB (an expensive way of doing it if you want to get up to 2GB).

      We're thinking of getting a new computer instead with 4GB of RAM because she's going to be adding a couple of memory-heavy design programmes.


      Martin


      N.B. If you do use Revo Uninstaller be VERY careful you don't accidentally delete important registry files.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ralph Moore
        Hello Everyone,

        That was an excellent reply by Rick Frazier and others have added some good information as well.

        I agree with the comments that in addition to adding more RAM, using CCleaner is often very helpful in improving overall pc performance.

        To the OP, Rachel Healy and others:

        Older computers may allow you to simply add a second memory 'stick' or a second pair of memory cards (same thing), while newer computers may require you to remove what you have and replace it with a new pair in order to increase your ram memory.

        While it is not that difficult to add or replace pc memory, if you are 'technically challenged' you may need to consult a more knowledgeable friend, a pc repair shop or search Google for detailed instructions.

        There are probably several videos on YouTube that may guide you along as well.

        Just be aware of static electricity, especially in the drier winter months, as it can do serious to your pc if you don't discharge it before working inside the computer.

        Also a good company to find (compatible) memory for older computers and for expert advice on anything memory related is RAM Memory Upgrade: Dell, Mac, Apple, HP, Compaq. USB drives, flash cards, SSD at Crucial.com

        Good luck!

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    • Profile picture of the author rickfrazier1
      Originally Posted by Rachel Healy View Post

      Thank you, RickFrasier1 for a really useful post, I learned a lot from it.

      I've been getting these calls from my computer telling me my virtual memory is low more frequently in the past couple of months but had no idea what to do about it.

      Didn't even know my computer's RAM - just looked it up - only 512MB of RAM, with total disc space of 71.4GB, of which I'm using just 31.8GB.

      Next question, how do I increase my computers RAM (without buying a new computer, that is!).

      Thanks,
      Rachel
      Rachel:

      You can see what configuration your current memory is from the BIOS. Most machines will let you enter the bios setup before the system boots. WHen you turn the PC on, you will usually see a splash screen with the manufacturer's name. If you press F2 (the function button F2, which is the third from the left on the top row of your keyboard) if you have a Dell. Other manufacturers may use a different function key. "popular ones" are typically F2, F10 or F12. After you do this, you will enter the BIOS setup screen. From there you can see how the memory is currently installed. You will either have one "stick" at 512MB, or 2 at 256MB each.
      Most machines have four slots (Notebooks may only have one or two accessable ones). You can either add more memory, or replace what you have. Given the price of memory now, it is usually better to replace what you have with new RAM. I'd suggest 2 sticks of 1GB (Gigabyte) each, or at most 4 at GB each. Note that if you put in 4GB, XP will not be able to use it all, and only show you around 3.5GB. For most people, going from 512MB (1/2 GB) to 2GB is a huge change. It is a good idea to add or replace memory in pairs. That is, two sticks of the same size at a time. You can add them one at a time, but the performance is better replacing them in in pairs. A 1GB stick should be around $20, and a 2GB stick around $40 for most desktops and towers. Notebook memory usually costs more, but not horribly so.

      You can find out what memory is the correct type and speed for your machine by going to one of the memory sellers, and entering the PC Brand, and model (and sometimes serial number). You can get memory branded with by your PC manufacturer or from a third party company. Most memory is compatible if it is the correct type, regardless of manufacturer. "Dell Original" comes from at least two different memory manufacturers (they don't make it themselves) and it is usually the same for HP, Acer and others. I've used crucial and pcmemorystore and several others in the past couple of years and all have done well for me.
      Generally speaking you will pay a premium for OEM branded memory. For a typical 1GB stick of one, you may find Dell or HP at $35 or $40, most mainline RAM manufacturers at $19 to $22, and a few at $11 to $13. The lowest price may not fully meet specifications or be refurbished. Personally, I buy the mainline manufacturers stock and don't have any problems. It's funny sometimes. I bought a couple of 1GB sticks to add to my wife's machine (main manufacturer) and when it came, it was identical to the Dell memory that came with the machine, except the original memory had an extra "Dell" sticker on it. Same part number and everything.

      One other thing: If your machine uses PC4200 RAM (for example) and someone tells you that putting PC5300 (faster) RAM in it will make your machine run faster, they don't know what they are talking about. Your motherboard is set for a specific memory speed and that is what it operates at. Putting faster memory in won't hurt (so long as it is compatible) but it won't make the machine run faster than the required memory speed. On the other hand, trying to put slower RAM into the machine can cause you all sorts of really hard to debug problems. It may seem to work at first, but once it gets warm, it may not, or it may cause memory errors. I've seen more blue screen of death (BSOD) problems from somone putting slower memory into a machine than any other causes.
      The only way faster memory than specified will help is if you are messing around with the motherboard bus speeds, and unless you are into serious gaming and "over clocking" it just isn't worth the hassle to mess with the standard motherboard settings. On many systems, they aren't even changeable from the normal BIOS setup.

      If you want to get the best bang for the buck, add two 1GB sticks in the positions your currently memory occupies, and move the existing memory up to the other slot(s). This way, you get the new, larger memory at the low address ranges, and only access the old RAM (which might be a single stick) when you use over 2GB of space.

      Unless you are really doing a lot of memory intensive things, or open a LOT of windows at a time, you won't notice the difference between 2GB and 4GB on XP. With Vista or Windows 7, you would, and there you will be better off with 4GB.
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      • Profile picture of the author wanna-succeed
        Rick, you are the star of this thread man, keep it up!!
        You seem to be quite the expert on computers. May I dare to guess that you market computer products??
        Anyway, thanks again for all these great tips!
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        • Profile picture of the author rickfrazier1
          Originally Posted by wanna-succeed View Post

          Rick, you are the star of this thread man, keep it up!!
          You seem to be quite the expert on computers. May I dare to guess that you market computer products??
          Anyway, thanks again for all these great tips!
          Nope, no marketing in the PC world... started with programming (mainframes) in 1971, was away from it for awhile, back into high tech as electrical engineer in 1979, workded in lots of start up companies in silicon valley. Was system administrator on unix systems before PCs even came about... saw it all unfold, was in companies that literally developed some othe things we take for granted every day. Worked hardware, software, mechanical engineering over the years. Still have a government day job working as a supervisory IT specialist (IT manager in the real world). Currently only deal with 8 or 9 servers in an Active Directory domain, about a hundred workstations, plus phone systems, Point of Sales, and Hospitality applications and legacy systems. It almost comes as second nature after awhile. It doesn't pay well, but provides good benefits, particularly health insurance.

          Have been a teacher of one sort or another most of my life, (though it took years to realize it) and am currently working on setting up my "retirement funding" with various IM products. I generally post in a few to several threads a week, depending on other demands on my time...
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          • Profile picture of the author kf
            You can upgrade your RAM easily through someplace like Memory Express. Take your laptop in, they'll look up what the max is, what the type is, sell it to you (about $20 1GB stick) and install it for about another $20. $60 will get you upgraded to 2GB and it can all be done in half an hour.

            Next, you can download FreeRAM XP Pro to help optimize your RAM, cache, computer speed. No tweaking required. Plug 'n play. Cnet is reliable place to dl: FreeRAM XP Pro - Free software downloads and software reviews - CNET Download.com

            Your computer will seem like new ... and you might squeeze another year or two out of it.
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          • Profile picture of the author Ralph Moore
            Originally Posted by rickfrazier1 View Post

            Nope, no marketing in the PC world... started with programming (mainframes) in 1971, was away from it for awhile, back into high tech as electrical engineer in 1979, workded in lots of start up companies in silicon valley. Was system administrator on unix systems before PCs even came about... saw it all unfold, was in companies that literally developed some othe things we take for granted every day. Worked hardware, software, mechanical engineering over the years. Still have a government day job working as a supervisory IT specialist (IT manager in the real world). Currently only deal with 8 or 9 servers in an Active Directory domain, about a hundred workstations, plus phone systems, Point of Sales, and Hospitality applications and legacy systems. It almost comes as second nature after awhile. It doesn't pay well, but provides good benefits, particularly health insurance.

            Have been a teacher of one sort or another most of my life, (though it took years to realize it) and am currently working on setting up my "retirement funding" with various IM products. I generally post in a few to several threads a week, depending on other demands on my time...
            WOW Rick. You've got me beat on the tech credentials for sure.

            I started in 1972 working on the B-52D heavy bomber for the USAF and was away from tech stuff for quite a while.

            In the '80's I did some custom electrical switching / programming for a company called Mobile Systems here in Indy, setting up some mobile test coaches for Aberdeen Proving Grounds and a bit more for a very short stint.

            In 1991 I got back into the emerging bulletin board and Internet fields and ended up with my own small IT business for the last few years.

            It has been an interesting ride. Glad to 'meet' you.

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  • Profile picture of the author jonibravo
    It is critical to have low virtual memory. It slow downs the speed so try installing a hard drive which is bigger than your previous one. Also install Bigger RAM which is better than this one.
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  • Profile picture of the author whiteshadow1890
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    I would first go for defragmenting you hard drive, after that use some cleanup tools and and an antivirus, i recommend kaspersky antivirus
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  • Profile picture of the author weatherforecast
    My advice is to buy some RAM . And format the hard. You will see after this that your pc will works better . Good luck !
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    • Profile picture of the author rickfrazier1
      Originally Posted by weatherforecast View Post

      My advice is to buy some RAM . And format the hard. You will see after this that your pc will works better . Good luck !
      Agree with add more RAM, but DO NOT FORMAT your hard drive unless you want to reinstall the operating system, all applications, and any files you have backed up. If you don't back up your files before you format your hard drive, then you will loose them !

      The PC may run better with a clean install, for awhile until all the applications and "helpers" and other junk gets installed, then you are back where you are today... [sigh]
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  • Profile picture of the author mycyberquest
    I had luck with CCleaner in the past.
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  • Profile picture of the author ithebest6
    why dont you increase ur virtual memory with hard disk, also, delete unnecessary files to free-up your virtual memory
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