URGENT: Matt Cutts is Rumored to be Talking About a New Google Penalty...

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I hear a rumor floating around that Matt Cutts is talking again about new Google Penalties...

Some of you say that we should never listen to Matt Cutts because he only tells us what Google wants us to know...

Yet others say that we should hang on his every word, because it is his job to tell webmasters what Google is thinking...

The really paranoid among us are always quick to point out that Cutts worked for the CIA while in college, and that predisposes him to use disinformation to lead us astray about what Google is really doing behind the scenes...

Still others are so super-paranoid that they suggest we should always listen to Cutts, because since his job is to lead us astray about the inner-workings of Google, and he is smart enough to know that we think he is always lying, so he tells us the truth, expecting us to do the opposite...



Regardless of the opinion you take about Matt Cutts and the words of wisdom he passes to small business owners, I tend to believe that this rumor is more than just a rumor.

In fact, after having heard this rumor that Cutts said it at a recent SEO seminar, I am actually quite concerned about this rumor being true. You know how rumors are... You cannot be sure that everything you hear is true... But honestly, I would not be so quick to dismiss this one...

Given Google's past history with ranking penalties, I think we would be foolish to ignore this rumor... And if it proves true, it will be the end of my search engine rankings!!!

I don't know about you, but this literally scares the **** out of me...

I currently rank on page one of Google for thousands of keywords, and enough of those rankings are on keywords that make money...

But with this new Google penalty, I am greatly concerned that my rankings will just vaporize overnight, and with my rankings going south, so will my income...

If you own a website on the Internet, and you rely on Google for any amount of income, then pay close attention to this. This is very important information to understand.

When Matt Cutts was talking to Danny Sullivan about new Google Penalties, he strongly implied that Google would start implementing a new algorithm penalty that will soon be known as the original content penalty!!!



Paul Myers: I know this thread is in the wrong forum, but please leave it here, as many people will want to know this information, including those outside of the SEO industry.

See Paul, Owners Often Fail to get this inside information that can seriously affect their businesses in a negative way.

So please let it ride...
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  • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
    Bill what does that mean exactly? Does it mean the duplicate content Myth becomes reality in essence? or am I Way off.

    EDIT: Way off ..... Bill are you in a mischievous mood?

    Why do I not get Big winner red Logo stamp. Geez Dan's threads have all the good humiliations.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Cathy Shelver View Post

      Bill are you in a mischievous mood?

      I am.

      But it is Alexa Smith's fault.

      She inspired me with this:

      http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...ml#post3087466



      p.s. I would be thanking everyone, but as usual, I have hit my limit of 25 Thanks per 24-hour period.

      Admin: I am going to keep harping on this!!
      25 Thanks per day is not enough!!
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        Bill,
        Admin: I am going to keep harping on this!!
        25 Thanks per day is not enough!!
        Harp away.

        Just consider why there might be limits on such things, and you may trade the harp in for, say, a harmonica...

        As for the rest of the thread, I can't believe how many people will miss the critical words in a post and respond from reflex.


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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          As for the rest of the thread, I can't believe how many people will miss the critical words in a post and respond from reflex.


          Paul

          I actually think there is a marketing lesson for anyone who has gotten this far down the page.

          If people are missing the critical words in my thread, what are they missing when they read your sales letters and your products?

          You might just be surprised....

          Test it to find out...

          Just because you said it, doesn't mean that people got it...



          p.s. Paul, I would thank you for your response, but I can't...
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          • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
            Nice save Bill, I bet that was the whole reason you wrote this, as an object lesson. Well I surely learned mine

            Originally Posted by tpw View Post

            I actually think there is a marketing lesson for anyone who has gotten this far down the page.

            If people are missing the critical words in my thread, what are they missing when they read your sales letters and your products?

            You might just be surprised....

            Test it to find out...

            Just because you said it, doesn't mean that people got it...
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            Originally Posted by tpw View Post

            I actually think there is a marketing lesson for anyone who has gotten this far down the page.

            If people are missing the critical words in my thread, what are they missing when they read your sales letters and your products?

            You might just be surprised....

            Test it to find out...

            Just because you said it, doesn't mean that people got it...



            p.s. Paul, I would thank you for your response, but I can't...
            You're ruining it. We were about to find out who hundreds of Warriors are that have no inference system abilities. DAMNED YOU BILL -- and I have a bridging assumption deficiency product almost finished.

            Crap. Guess I'll just go write another page of my novel.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post


          As for the rest of the thread, I can't believe how many people will miss the critical words in a post and respond from reflex.
          Check Dan Rinnert's thread from earlier. People missed the critical words AND the big red letters in subsequent posts. Makes you wonder ... a little bit.

          http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ting-died.html
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        • Profile picture of the author LynnM
          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          Bill,Harp away.

          As for the rest of the thread, I can't believe how many people will miss the critical words in a post and respond from reflex.
          I can't believe you can't believe that
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    • Profile picture of the author Wendy Knight
      Could this be a SPOOF?
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by Wendy Knight View Post

        Could this be a SPOOF?

        It could be, and it is.


        Note the following in the original post:
        Originally Posted by tpw View Post


        Paul Myers: I know this thread is in the wrong forum, but please leave it here, as many people will want to know this information, including those outside of the SEO industry.

        See Paul, Owners Often Fail to get this inside information that can seriously affect their businesses in a negative way.

        So please let it ride...
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    Having fun, Bill?
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  • Profile picture of the author HaRrY84
    I just think this guy usually like to scare us with his "google improvements or algorithms" when it comes to high rankings and at the end of everything we all back to basics....backlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dhira
      Originally Posted by HaRrY84 View Post

      I just think this guy usually like to scare us with his "google improvements or algorithms" when it comes to high rankings and at the end of everything we all back to basics....backlinks.
      Exactly.

      Get some software!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author rrram2
      Originally Posted by HaRrY84 View Post

      back to basics....backlinks.
      Backlinks are not the basics. I can show you a website that is #1 on Goolge for almost a year now, with competition of about 10,400,000 results (over 10 million NOT a typo), and according to Google the site has 0 (ZERO) inbound links, Yahoo is a little more realistic and gives it 10 inbound links. I recently added a PR 3 link to the site in an effort to get the guys business for another year. WHO wouldn't pay $120 for hosting for 12 months for a site that has locked up #1 on Google for at least 10 months with competition of over 10 million. #1 on Goolge gets nearly 50% of the clicks for any given keyword search

      #2 comes in with 60,517 links. #1 = 10 links #2 = 60,517 proving that links are not king if you do not have the content & SEO maximized for your chosen keyword search.

      After I got the guy #1 I tried to sell him some links to secure his #1 spot, how silly google made me look after 10 months of #1 rankings for broad search terms for a website that has basically no links, and I bet of those 10 links it has, they are all valueless links (no google PR for page where link is published) according to Google.
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      • Profile picture of the author rrram2
        while of course 0 is better than N/A, it is nothing to brag about, also Goolge PR does not determine who is #1 either.

        FBI comes in at #3 with their PR 5 page and over 600 links
        but #1 is PR 0 with 10 links, hardly a competition, PR and links are nice, but they do not secure #1, #1 is about SEO, content, form, structure, Keyword density, keyword prominence,
        keywords spread across ALL your html elements. Further proof of myths that folks commonly believe.

        The proof is on the Google #1 SERP's, it takes some SEO techniques to get into the top 10, and some real skills or knowledge, or even some tricks to get #1. Everyone cannot be #1.
        I have one website I have battled with on Goolge for over 10 years, where my client is #2 and the competition is #1. My client got tired of paying for little tweaks to jump back into #1, because she found out #2 does yield 1000's of clicks per month.
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        • Profile picture of the author Atyro
          Well done Bill on giving us this all important heads up. It has been well known for some time that original material is viewed with great suspicion by the SEs. Most so-called original material is re-spun by content spinners, so it is easier for the SE's to lump all material into one basket, and treat it with disdain. Only when a piece of material has passed the duplication test, i.e. been reprinted around the net, then and only then can the SE's know, without submission to a human evaluator, that the material is bona fide, 'real' English...and not some Genetically modified autospun hybrid. The duplication test is the only true test of a material's relevance, and its human intelligibility. I also heard that one of the Search Engines promotes the 1000th piece of duplicated content to first place for that subject. I may create a piece of software for my inner circle that targets the all important 1000th duplicate re-iteration. However, I may also, for a very limited period of time, release the software to the hoy polloi, for a bargain $197. I'll see how I feel.....
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          • Profile picture of the author Atyro
            Also bear in mind that SE's use duplicate content to create their latent semantically indexed databases, and they therefore favour duplicate content over original content because they can use it for semantic profiling. I hear some people have has sites de-indexed for brazenly creating repeated original content. The SE's will tolerate it once or twice, but if you keep producing original content, it raises a red flag, and the SE's will assume you are content spinning, and you are in line for a slap. Duplicate content from high PR state owned News sources is best - its a win win, because you get good rankings, and you won't get arrested for thinking outside the Party box.
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  • Profile picture of the author King Shiloh
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    Bill,

    Somebody should inform Sir Willie Crawford about this development immediately.
    So, search engine optimization, internet marketing...have finally become cold dead?

    The burial ceremony will follow soon, I guess.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Morgan
        Cutts addressed this two years ago:

        Duplicate content question

        But the bottom line is, you should always worry about duplicate content. They punish for it now, and they'll punish for it more later. Long live SEO, but doorway pages are dead.
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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by Jeremy Morgan View Post

          Cutts addressed this two years ago:

          Duplicate content question

          But the bottom line is, you should always worry about duplicate content. They punish for it now, and they'll punish for it more later. Long live SEO, but doorway pages are dead.

          No... This is something new...

          Reread the post....
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          • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Morgan
            Originally Posted by tpw View Post

            No... This is something new...

            Reread the post....
            Ok, You got me. Congrats
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            • Profile picture of the author sanssecret
              PMSL. :p

              Don't you have any work to do?
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              • Profile picture of the author tpw
                Originally Posted by sanssecret View Post

                PMSL. :p

                Don't you have any work to do?

                I do, but I am writing at the moment, and I hit a roadblock.

                This is how I cleanse my mind to finish the task at hand.
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                • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
                  Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                  I do, but I am writing at the moment, and I hit a roadblock.

                  This is how I cleanse my mind to finish the task at hand.
                  Well that's because you don't have much of a life just like me

                  Next time do what I do and own a bunch of noobs in Call of Duty MW2 on Xbox Live. It helps and sure beats being called an idiot on the forum
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                • Profile picture of the author sanssecret
                  Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                  I do, but I am writing at the moment, and I hit a roadblock.

                  This is how I cleanse my mind to finish the task at hand.
                  You could just try Bejewelled Blitz. Of course, this is what I do, and the only problem I've found so far is that I never get back to finishing the task at hand.
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          • Profile picture of the author Ronak Shah
            Originally Posted by tpw View Post

            No... This is something new...

            Reread the post....
            That is AWESOME

            Hilarious!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    OMG Matt Cutts will kill us all and take over the universe ................

    RUN FOR YOUR LIVES
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  • Profile picture of the author TimG
    Oh F#%$, I'm royally screwed!!!!

    Respectfully,
    Tim

    PS - Nice one Bill
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  • Profile picture of the author Trent Brownrigg
    Ok, I get it now! Had to edit my original post because I missed the humor in the beginning. Oops!
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Trent Brownrigg View Post

      So where is the information? Seems like you just hyped up a post without giving us anything to go on! Blah Blah Blah!

      I usually listen when you speak but this time it seems you just posted to get a rise out of people for no apparent reason at all.

      Btw, I re-read the post several times and see nothing worth actually reading in it!

      None, just a rumor I imagined...

      Yes, nothing to go on except the post itself...

      No, I did have a reason... For fun, because I knew people would not read the entire post and miss the spoof of the Duplicate Content Penalty, using my imaginary Original Content Penalty / Unique Content Penalty...

      And Yes, nothing worth reading except for the commentary that follows....
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      • Profile picture of the author Daveyz
        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        None, just a rumor I imagined...

        Yes, nothing to go on except the post itself...

        No, I did have a reason... For fun, because I knew people would not read the entire post and miss the spoof of the Duplicate Content Penalty, using my imaginary Original Content Penalty...

        And Yes, nothing worth reading except for the commentary that follows....

        For a moment I thought you were serious.... -.-"
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        • Profile picture of the author King Shiloh
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          Originally Posted by Daveyz View Post

          For a moment I thought you were serious.... -.-"
          What about now?
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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by Daveyz View Post

          For a moment I thought you were serious.... -.-"
          That was post #17, so you were probably chewing your nails for ten minutes before it sunk in?



          Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

          Now Bill, did you just pull those names out of a hat, or was that from some vague recollection of a long-lost Star Trek episode?
          No... I made that one up too...

          I kept trying different variations until I found one that had zero search results in Google.

          In the near future, when people read the post where I used that example and I give them the link to Google it, all they will see is the post they are reading in the number one spot of Google. LOL

          EDIT: Proof



          p.s. Did I ever mention that I love playing Google search engine games...
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    Ha ha awesome Bill.

    You'll rope em' in like deep sea fishing on this. A couple are already on the hook.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Dhira View Post

      Originally Posted by HaRrY84 View Post

      I just think this guy usually like to scare us with his "google improvements or algorithms" when it comes to high rankings and at the end of everything we all back to basics....backlinks.
      Exactly.

      Get some software!!!


      Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

      Ha ha awesome Bill.

      You'll rope em' in like deep sea fishing on this. A couple are already on the hook.

      Michael: It is like shooting fish in a barrel, with a bazooka...
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    Thanks for wasting my time.
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      Originally Posted by Rich Struck View Post

      Thanks for wasting my time.
      I think you should hit the thanks button if you are that grateful
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by Mohammad Afaq View Post

        I think you should hit the thanks button if you are that grateful

        The question is whether he is mad because he realized it was a joke, or is he mad because he thought it was real? :devil:
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    It looks like all us writers and article marketer are finally going out of business once and for all... damn it!
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by aandersen View Post

      It looks like all use writers and article marketer are finally going out of business once and for all... damn!

      It was good while it lasted though, wasn't it?
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    You just helped me use my precious time. Got to get back to work.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    Bill, you had me riveted to your post until the very end, where I had to do a double-take on the original content penalty statement, after which I just burst out laughing! It sounded so believable and real till the very end, and I'm sure we're going to be camping out here for a while marveling at and judging the most absurd/silly comments that pop up!
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    Bill,

    I don't envy you at all.

    I don't want to be you.

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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    Bill, I'm sure you were greatly inspired by Dan's earlier thread, but I must say you have done him one better with this one. I predict that there'll be many people who will read this and just wonder what on earth the fuss is all about...lol!
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    • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
      Paulie as good as this one was, Dan's was better (not just because I was the first one to instantly fall for this one) But the line in Dans warning people of the impending doom if they should not read properly was classic.

      Bill's was just to well written and too hidden (Again not making excuses for my little slip up (Okay maybe I am))

      But both were great fun to read.

      Thanks Guys


      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

      Bill, I'm sure you were greatly inspired by Dan's earlier thread, but I must say you have done him one better with this one. I predict that there'll be many people who will read this and just wonder what on earth the fuss is all about...lol!
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by Cathy Shelver View Post

        Paulie as good as this one was, Dan's was better (not just because I was the first one to instantly fall for this one) But the line in Dans warning people of the impending doom if they should not read properly was classic.

        Bill's was just to well written and too hidden (Again not making excuses for my little slip up (Okay maybe I am))

        But both were great fun to read.

        Thanks Guys
        You're a good sport, Cathy. I'm not surprised by that in the least.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by Cathy Shelver View Post

        Paulie as good as this one was, Dan's was better (not just because I was the first one to instantly fall for this one) But the line in Dans warning people of the impending doom if they should not read properly was classic.

        Bill's was just to well written and too hidden (Again not making excuses for my little slip up (Okay maybe I am))

        But both were great fun to read.

        Thanks Guys
        Cathy, let's just agree that these two threads have been incredibly hilarious, and a source of endless amusement. Both were 'doom and gloom' type posts albeit coming from different angles, and Bill's was so subtle that many people will completely miss the point...but I think it packs an incredible punch at the end, like a dramatic movie ending...lol!
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  • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
    Bill did you ever see this thread of Calibans? Not intentional but boy there were some winners. http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...s-oh-wait.html
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Cathy Shelver View Post

      Bill did you ever see this thread of Calibans? Not intentional but boy there were some winners. http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...s-oh-wait.html

      I missed that the first time around... Thanks...

      It was awesome...

      I especially enjoyed his spin-off business idea...

      I would sign up for that...
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Excellent post Bill,

        Even more excellent set of responses from some people.

        I was almost sucked in until I saw "Original content penalty", then I looked at your avatar...

        ...then I laughed.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
          Richard the fact that you were almost caught does offer me some solace "he who laughs at self laughs last and loudest" ( I may have that Idiom slightly wrong)


          Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

          Excellent post Bill,

          Even more excellent set of responses from some people.

          I was almost sucked in until I saw "Original content penalty", then I looked at your avatar...

          ...then I laughed.
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          • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
            Originally Posted by Cathy Shelver View Post

            Richard the fact that you were almost caught does offer me some solace "he who laughs at self laughs last and loudest" ( I may have that Idiom slightly wrong)
            I've heard of "He who laughs last, laughs longest", your one is new to me but heck, what do I know.

            I must admit it was all a bit believable. No one knows what Google's going to do.

            It was just when I saw what it was, I knew he was on a wind up.

            Hope you had a great Christmas Cathy.
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            • Profile picture of the author paulie888
              Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

              I've heard of "He who laughs last, laughs longest", your one is new to me but heck, what do I know.

              I must admit it was all a bit believable. No one knows what Google's going to do.

              It was just when I saw what it was, I knew he was on a wind up.

              Hope you had a great Christmas Cathy.
              Richard, you're absolutely right. Bill picked a topic and scenario that is true for the most part, and as a result he drew us into his web of intrigue, and only the keen-eyed among us would have spotted the three word phrase in there that was absolutely false!
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              • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
                Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

                Richard, you're absolutely right. Bill picked a topic and scenario that is true for the most part, and as a result he drew us into his web of intrigue, and only the keen-eyed among us would have spotted the three word phrase in there that was absolutely false!
                Very true but I'd like to hope it was more than just the keen eyed who looked at "original content penalty" and didn't realise it was a joke...(Cathy is excused, she's been in the wars lately).
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                • Profile picture of the author paulie888
                  Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                  Very true but I'd like to hope it was more than just the keen eyed who looked at "original content penalty" and didn't realise it was a joke...(Cathy is excused, she's been in the wars lately).
                  In all honesty, it would have been very easy to miss, especially if you were just skimming over the post. After all, there was only one word different within that phrase - it should have read "duplicate content penalty", but Bill changed one word in there so that it became "original content penalty" instead.
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              • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
                As Tim so eloquently put it...I'm f****d

                Oh, and I thought there were going to be refreshments served in this thread.
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                • Profile picture of the author Vanessa Reece
                  Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                  Oh, and I thought there were going to be refreshments served in this thread.
                  I still have half a bag of monster munch let? I'm more than happy to virtually share.
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                  • Profile picture of the author VanessaB
                    Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

                    This is just wrong. Absolutely no consideration for the speed readers and those who just quickly skim threads. LOL

                    Just one little word towards the end was the difference between a serious post and a joke.
                    From Skype:
                    Dani: You posted this just to f**K with people
                    Bil: Yes
                    Dani: That is horrible! You're going to scare some newbies.
                    Bill: LOL.

                    Originally Posted by Barry Unruh View Post

                    Good thing I just bought the cheapest article spinning software possible. It guarantees a uniqueness factor of no more than 10% which I believe falls under the radar in Google's new uniqueness filter.

                    Just think, If I had actually invested in high quality software I would be screwed now.
                    I'm running off to order 200 crappy English $1.00 articles from DP

                    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                    OK- remind me to never again take anything Bill says seriously.

                    ;-)
                    You have to be reminded?


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                    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                      Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                      As Tim so eloquently put it...I'm f****d
                      That's a good point actually, and I suppose something people can learn: If you rely too much on Google SERPs, it could backfire if they change their algorithm.

                      Originally Posted by DanielleS View Post

                      You have to be reminded?
                      Well he did get me to read the whole thing- without realizing he was joking. (Haha)
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                  Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                  I thought there were going to be refreshments served in this thread.
                  I'm with Steven.
                  It's the least we deserve, here.
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                  Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                  Oh, and I thought there were going to be refreshments served in this thread.

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              • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                Darn it - it finally happened - the profile backlinkers will be mainstream and valuable and my silly original content will be useless.

                Woe is I.

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              • Profile picture of the author TurnKey Internet
                "Still others are so super-paranoid that they suggest we should always listen to Cutts, because since his job is to lead us astray about the inner-workings of Google, and he is smart enough to know that we think he is always lying, so he tells us the truth, expecting us to do the opposite..."

                So I clearly can not choose the cup in front of you.
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              • Profile picture of the author bt
                Good one tpw, I just about fell over backwards.
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              • Profile picture of the author genietoast
                Well, until it's made official then it doesn't yet exist.
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              • Profile picture of the author dotnetguru
                lol, this is a good one.

                We should start one about a backlink penelty. Then all the big guys will stop building backlinks and maybe even remove them, then us little guys could rule the world.
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                • Profile picture of the author tpw
                  Originally Posted by dotnetguru View Post

                  lol, this is a good one.

                  We should start one about a backlink penelty. Then all the big guys will stop building backlinks and maybe even remove them, then us little guys could rule the world.

                  I am thinking on my next one...

                  The back link penalty is an interesting idea...

                  If I use it, I will link you...
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                • Profile picture of the author zigato
                  Originally Posted by dotnetguru View Post

                  lol, this is a good one.

                  We should start one about a backlink penelty. Then all the big guys will stop building backlinks and maybe even remove them, then us little guys could rule the world.
                  lol... Actually if I recall correctly, Google did try to implement a backlink penalty years ago... maybe 4 or 5 years ago now? I used to work for a SEO company ages back then and I recall the boss saying something about that...

                  Meanwhile, I actually work for the same company now as a freelance IM blogger... the last article I wrote for them was on Google's new algorithm. I had to laugh because Google also claimed they were able to immediately detect hacked sites which "was a main source of spam for 2010".
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                  • Profile picture of the author tpw
                    Originally Posted by zigato View Post

                    lol... Actually if I recall correctly, Google did try to implement a backlink penalty years ago... maybe 4 or 5 years ago now? I used to work for a SEO company ages back then and I recall the boss saying something about that...

                    Meanwhile, I actually work for the same company now as a freelance IM blogger... the last article I wrote for them was on Google's new algorithm. I had to laugh because Google also claimed they were able to immediately detect hacked sites which "was a main source of spam for 2010".

                    In 2007, they did a penalty of sorts, where they discounted "paid links".

                    The have never to my knowledge implemented a true link-related penalty. Instead they ignore a lot of links, giving them zero value.

                    If they did real penalties on links, I could bury my competition in a hurry.
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            • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
              I did thanks..... I hope you did to.



              Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

              I've heard of "He who laughs last, laughs longest", your one is new to me but heck, what do I know.

              I must admit it was all a bit believable. No one knows what Google's going to do.

              It was just when I saw what it was, I knew he was on a wind up.

              Hope you had a great Christmas Cathy.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by Cathy Shelver View Post

      Bill did you ever see this thread of Calibans? Not intentional but boy there were some winners. http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...s-oh-wait.html
      I still remember that thread clearly, Cathy. It was absolutely hilarious to see well-intentioned people rush into that thread to offer "helpful" advice/opinions that were all wrong because they didn't read through that original post thoroughly, but instead jumped the gun after reading the first few sentences!
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
    Banned
    It's all good. My programmers are working on a de-uniquifying plugin to counter the unique content penalty as we speak. Stay tuned for the WSO.
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    You're not fooling me with this one....
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Bill, you need to start writing some novels.

    :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
    This is just wrong. Absolutely no consideration for the speed readers and those who just quickly skim threads. LOL

    Just one little word towards the end was the difference between a serious post and a joke.
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
    Good thing I just bought the cheapest article spinning software possible. It guarantees a uniqueness factor of no more than 10% which I believe falls under the radar in Google's new uniqueness filter.

    Just think, If I had actually invested in high quality software I would be screwed now.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
      Barry I think you fell for Bills trick, and on the previous post you answered on about everything being dead you may have done it again.

      This is ploy to see if people read the posts properly.

      I fell for it to



      Originally Posted by Barry Unruh View Post

      Good thing I just bought the cheapest article spinning software possible. It guarantees a uniqueness factor of no more than 10% which I believe falls under the radar in Google's new uniqueness filter.

      Just think, If I had actually invested in high quality software I would be screwed now.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by Cathy Shelver View Post

      Bill what does that mean exactly? Does it mean the duplicate content Myth becomes reality in essence? or am I Way off.

      EDIT: Way off ..... Bill are you in a mischievous mood?

      Why do I not get Big winner red Logo stamp. Geez Dan's threads have all the good humiliations.
      Cathy, no one goes home empty handed...

      WE HAVE A WINNER!
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      • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
        OK- remind me to never again take anything Bill says seriously.

        ;-)
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      • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
        Ahhhhh Thanks John that was sweet of you I really felt left out compared to the other illustrious winners on Dans Thread.

        I will wear my winner tag and say 'I have my sign' ( reference to Jeff foxworthy)

        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        Cathy, no one goes home empty handed...

        WE HAVE A WINNER!
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      • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        Cathy, no one goes home empty handed...

        WE HAVE A WINNER!
        LMAO....outstanding John!


        This has got to be one of the best joke threads lately...possibly ever!

        People are so quick to jump on the duplicate content penalty bandwagon that they will believe almost anything about it as long as it sounds really really bad...hell, they even twist completely opposite ideas to fit it somehow (as in this case).

        Many kuddos to you TPW...very well played!
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      • Profile picture of the author Sam England
        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        Cathy, no one goes home empty handed...

        WE HAVE A WINNER!
        Cathy...first prize winner gets NOTHING...NADA...

        Bill you are a "JACKWAD" for leading these poor people to the feeding sharks...looks like most of them got bitten...

        I've had my daily 10 minutes of amusement...like a being at a carnival...
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  • Profile picture of the author SamirSM
    That has to be the best SEO Joke ever :p


    Originally Posted by tpw View Post

    I hear a rumor floating around that Matt Cutts is talking again about new Google Penalties...

    Some of you say that we should never listen to Matt Cutts because he only tells us what Google wants us to know...

    Yet others say that we should hang on his every word, because it is his job to tell webmasters what Google is thinking...

    The really paranoid among us are always quick to point out that Cutts worked for the CIA while in college, and that predisposes him to use disinformation to lead us astray about what Google is really doing behind the scenes...

    Still others are so super-paranoid that they suggest we should always listen to Cutts, because since his job is to lead us astray about the inner-workings of Google, and he is smart enough to know that we think he is always lying, so he tells us the truth, expecting us to do the opposite...



    Regardless of the opinion you take about Matt Cutts and the words of wisdom he passes to small business owners, I tend to believe that this rumor is more than just a rumor.

    In fact, after having heard this rumor that Cutts said it at a recent SEO seminar, I am actually quite concerned about this rumor being true. You know how rumors are... You cannot be sure that everything you hear is true... But honestly, I would not be so quick to dismiss this one...

    Given Google's past history with ranking penalties, I think we would be foolish to ignore this rumor... And if it proves true, it will be the end of my search engine rankings!!!

    I don't know about you, but this literally scares the **** out of me...

    I currently rank on page one of Google for thousands of keywords, and enough of those rankings are on keywords that make money...

    But with this new Google penalty, I am greatly concerned that my rankings will just vaporize overnight, and with my rankings going south, so will my income...

    If you own a website on the Internet, and you rely on Google for any amount of income, then pay close attention to this. This is very important information to understand.

    When Matt Cutts was talking to Danny Sullivan about new Google Penalties, he strongly implied that Google would start implementing a new algorithm penalty that will soon be known as the original content penalty!!!



    Paul Myers: I know this thread is in the wrong forum, but please leave it here, as many people will want to know this information, including those outside of the SEO industry.

    See Paul, Owners Often Fail to get this inside information that can seriously affect their businesses in a negative way.

    So please let it ride...
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  • Profile picture of the author Juan Esteban
    So it means that crap autoblogs are going to take top positions and my authority sites will go to hell?

    I hate Matt Cutts!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sloop John B
    This penalty must already be in effect. My month old site with original articles doesnt place at all in Google but is positioned on the third page in both Yahoo and Bing.

    Perhaps the gentleman here who will save Google millions can convince this Cutts fellow to change his mind.
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  • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
    Unfortunately, the penalty is real.

    You create original content, such as something that answers a burning question.

    Google then takes it and provides that information to searchers at the very top of search results.

    Your site, no longer necessary, is buried.
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  • Profile picture of the author philipkwells
    I'm still laughing. To think, I almost deleted TheBestSpinner from my desktop!
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    • Profile picture of the author Brandon Tanner
      LOL. Harvey Segal would be proud of this thread.
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      • Profile picture of the author Lance K
        Once it got past 5 paragraphs, I knew it was a razz. Bill's never been serious for that long.

        EDIT: Wow...3 star rating for this thread. Looks like the joke is on the comedian. Tough crowd.
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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

          EDIT: Wow...3 star rating for this thread. Looks like the joke is on the comedian. Tough crowd.

          The funny thing is that anyone in on the joke would have given it 5-stars...

          The person who gave it the original 3-of-5 stars found value where there was none...
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    LOL, you had me going for a while there Bill.... I was actually thinking in my head "Get to the damn penalty already for crying out loud". Good one!

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  • Profile picture of the author Serendipitous
    It's funny to see what you guys do for fun around here. A good friend of mine wrote a similar post in my forum for April Fool's Day but I didn't happen to see it until a few days later, when it had about 20 responses. I thought it looked even more serious because it had so many responses so I read through it, wanting to follow the conversation all the way through. Well, he got me. He got me good.

    This thread though, it was too short to be thought as serious as my friends post, and it was given away too soon. Still making me smile though.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
      Well, this is certainly good news for those 100+ domains I own with no content on them.

      Looks like I'll be buying and parking all those
      .cn
      .co.in
      .com.cn
      .com.hk
      .com.tw
      .hk
      .in
      .net.cn
      .org.cn
      .tw
      domains just for the rankings next time I get that email...

      ~Bill
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      • Profile picture of the author TimG
        Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

        Well, this is certainly good news for those 100+ domains I own with no content on them.

        Looks like I'll be buying and parking all those
        .cn
        .co.in
        .com.cn
        .com.hk
        .com.tw
        .hk
        .in
        .net.cn
        .org.cn
        .tw
        domains just for the rankings next time I get that email...

        ~Bill
        Very cool, now you can create a product and launch it........"3 clicks to purchasing a domain name and banking thousands with nothing on it"

        Respectfully,
        Tim
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  • Profile picture of the author jamescovert
    There are those out there who create orginal content, surely some people will benefit to mass change.

    There are always winners and losers, i have much of my work republished across the internet by blog owners linking back to me, what does this mean for them, and even me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
    Originally Posted by royj View Post

    They won't penalise you for having original content. I wouldn't worrry about it.
    Hmm, another winner?
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Colle
    Wow!!! I am so so scared now. If that post was intended to scare some of us then congrats you succeeded in scaring me. If it was not intended for that and is really of some factual evidence then I think I am even more scared. This could be the end of a whole lot of stuff as we know it and the beginning of a new era where some of us will have to start back all over again from scratch. I hope as you said it is a rumor that it will remain a rumor.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by Robert Colle View Post

      Wow!!! I am so so scared now. If that post was intended to scare some of us then congrats you succeeded in scaring me. If it was not intended for that and is really of some factual evidence then I think I am even more scared. This could be the end of a whole lot of stuff as we know it and the beginning of a new era where some of us will have to start back all over again from scratch. I hope as you said it is a rumor that it will remain a rumor.
      Helloooo ... read the post again and then read some of the responses
      It was a spoof, a gag, a joke
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Bill, what have you done?

        After some time, we've collectively failed to dispel the duplicate content penalty myth.

        Now, forever more, thanks to you, we have the "Unique content penalty" myth to deal with.

        You naughty man.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          I just tapped into a Skype conversation between Matt Cutts and Mark
          Zuckerberg.

          Here is a partial transcription

          Matt: Mark, I just got an email about some dumbass thread over at the WF

          Mark: What's it about?

          Matt: Some dorkwad named Bill Platt spreading original content penalty rumors

          Mark: Bill Platt...didn't he play the chief on Get Smart?

          Matt: That's Edward Platt.

          Mark: I thought he played Oliver Babish on West Wing

          Matt: That's Oliver Platt you wingnut.

          Mark: But didn't he play Tweedle Dee in March Of The Wooden Soldiers?

          Matt: That's Oliver Hardy you jackass. Look, this is serious.

          Mark: So what do you want me to do about it?

          Matt: I want you to get on that rag of a site of yours and deny the
          rumors. Remember, the only reason you've even got a search engine
          ranking is because you're sleeping with my cousin Gertrude and you're
          the only one desperate enough to go near her. Now get on the horn
          and deny, deny, deny.

          Mark: What's the guy's name again?

          Matt: Bill Platt.

          Mark: Didn't he play (click)...Hello? Hello? Matt...you there?...Dickhead.
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          • Profile picture of the author tpw
            Originally Posted by royj View Post

            Was that supposed to be funny?:confused:

            I would not call it funny, but I would call it humorous.

            What is really funny is the 100+ posts after my OP that started this thread.

            Especially #77 and #87.
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          • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
            Originally Posted by royj View Post

            Was that supposed to be funny?:confused:
            Was that supposed to endear you to a new community?
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            • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
              Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

              Was that supposed to endear you to a new community?
              I might add, it was a joke.

              lets all calm down and realise we still have the duplicate content myth to bust, before we get all het up about the joke that is "Unique content penalty" myth, Myth, myth, myth....oh I give up.

              Royj. Sorry chap but yes it was funny when you look at all the people who took a joke as being serious.
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              • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
                Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                I might add, it was a joke.

                lets all calm down and realise we still have the duplicate content myth to bust, before we get all het up about the joke that is "Unique content penalty" myth, Myth, myth, myth....oh I give up.

                Royj. Sorry chap but yes it was funny when you look at all the people who took a joke as being serious.
                Uhh... my comment was directed at Royj, that's why I quoted him.

                I'm quite clear on Bill's post. Go back and read my first response at the top of page 1.

                K'thx.
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                • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
                  Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

                  Uhh... my comment was directed at Royj, that's why I quoted him.

                  I'm quite clear on Bill's post. Go back and read my first response at the top of page 1.

                  K'thx.
                  Then Michael wandered off, scratching his head, wondering why so many people can't actually read or think with anything resembling cognitive process.
                  I was trying to back you up my friend.

                  My apologies you took it the wrong way. I merely quoted you in order to back your and my point up at the same time.

                  Think we got all confused, apologies.
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                  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
                    Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                    I was trying to back you up my friend.

                    My apologies you took it the wrong way. I merely quoted you in order to back your and my point up at the same time.

                    Think we got all confused, apologies.

                    Aaah... well then... ahem.... allow me to apologize in light of your apology...
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                • Profile picture of the author tpw
                  Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

                  Uhh... my comment was directed at Royj, that's why I quoted him.

                  I'm quite clear on Bill's post. Go back and read my first response at the top of page 1.

                  K'thx.

                  {Then Michael wandered off, scratching his head, wondering why so many people can't actually read or think with anything resembling cognitive process.}

                  Michael: I think his was an addendum to yours...

                  {Bill wanders off scratching his head, wondering if Richard misunderstood or Michael misunderstood...}
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                  • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
                    Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                    Michael: I think his was an addendum to yours...

                    {Bill wanders off scratching his head, wondering if Richard misunderstood or Michael misunderstood...}
                    Well, in all honestly I believe Michael did but I believe he did it in good faith.

                    Looking back I could have phrased it better and not quoted Michael. So there you go.

                    Either way, this is off topic!
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                  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
                    Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                    Michael: I think his was an addendum to yours...

                    {Bill wanders off scratching his head, wondering if Richard misunderstood or Michael misunderstood...}

                    Yeah we're clear now... PM's exchanged... when he quoted me, it sort of threw me because I thought he was responding directly to my statement.

                    (which is what I thought was the primary use of quoting someone specifically vs. broadcasting a general statement... but hey... whadda I know...)


                    So... about that thing.... you about ready with your WSO?

                    HOW I MADE IT ONTO THE FORBES LIST IN 12 HOURS EXPLOITING GOOGLE'S SECRET ORIGINAL CONTENT RULE!
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                    • Profile picture of the author tpw
                      Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

                      Yeah we're clear now... PM's exchanged... when he quoted me, it sort of threw me because I thought he was responding directly to my statement.

                      (which is what I thought was the primary use of quoting someone specifically vs. broadcasting a general statement... but hey... whadda I know...)


                      So... about that thing.... you about ready with your WSO?

                      HOW I MADE IT ONTO THE FORBES LIST IN 12 HOURS EXPLOITING GOOGLE'S SECRET ORIGINAL CONTENT RULE!

                      That would be rich...

                      Could you imagine seeing this story on MSNBC Business later this evening or in Cnet.com...

                      Everyone go now to the OP and Tweet it to your networks....

                      We know the news stations watch Twitter closely...
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                      • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
                        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                        That would be rich. Could you imagine seeing this story on MSNBC Business later this evening or in Cnet.com...

                        Someone at BH Forums has already pirated you and made your PDF available to the masses.

                        Did you get your refund request?
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                        • Profile picture of the author tpw
                          Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

                          Someone at BH Forums has already pirated you and made your PDF available to the masses.

                          Did you get your refund request?

                          LOL

                          He wasn't demanding what he paid for it; he was demanding what he felt the report should have been worth!!

                          A scoop like this doesn't come cheap...
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                    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
                      Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

                      Yeah we're clear now... PM's exchanged... when he quoted me, it sort of threw me because I thought he was responding directly to my statement.

                      (which is what I thought was the primary use of quoting someone specifically vs. broadcasting a general statement... but hey... whadda I know...)


                      So... about that thing.... you about ready with your WSO?

                      HOW I MADE IT ONTO THE FORBES LIST IN 12 HOURS EXPLOITING GOOGLE'S SECRET ORIGINAL CONTENT RULE!
                      Yeah I bought it, it works. Like Dambusters!

                      (which is what I thought was the primary use of quoting someone specifically vs. broadcasting a general statement... but hey... whadda I know...)
                      Yes, yes, yes. As I agreed.

                      Roy.j - I didn't. I didnt think it was funny at all.

                      But there you go, some people find things funny , some don't
                      My friend, I believe you missed the whole crux of the point here.

                      Like it or not, many people did. If you don't like that? Then I guess there's no need to comment. Not being rude sir but it's a fact.
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                      • Profile picture of the author tpw
                        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                        Like it or not, many people did. If you don't like that? Then I guess there's no need to comment. Not being rude sir but it's a fact.

                        I suspect that he is not exactly mad at Wags for his comments specifically...

                        I suspect that he is mad at Wags for making light of this new penalty that is going to wipe out his search engine rankings too!!
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                      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                        I think it should really be WHO ELSE WANTS TO MAKE IT ONTO THE FORBES LIST ... etc. etc. because "How I ..." is a little too original, by comparison. Everyone uses "Who Else Wants To ...".
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                        • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
                          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                          I think it should really be WHO ELSE WANTS TO MAKE IT ONTO THE FORBES LIST ... etc. etc. because "How I ..." is a little too original, by comparison. Everyone uses "Who Else Wants To ...".
                          COPYWRITNG CONTEST!!

                          Who can write the best sales copy headline for Bill's forthcoming WSO about exploiting the Google Original Content rule?

                          Imran Naseem will judge the entries.

                          err.... nevermind...
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                          • Profile picture of the author Lance K
                            Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post


                            Imran Naseem will judge the entries.

                            err.... nevermind...
                            LOL...I couldn't figure that one out. Haven't been around as much lately. After some brief research, I sorta get it.
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                            • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
                              Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

                              LOL...I couldn't figure that one out. Haven't been around as much lately. After some brief research, I sorta get it.

                              He finally got the ban hammer a while back.

                              I just sort of used him as the posterboy because he would likely be one to get caught up in the cornfusion of Bill's Google Original Content Rule and release a $7 version of his own Foolproof Billionaire-creating System after downloading Bill's pirated original from BH World.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
            I laughed, it was very sharp......

            Originally Posted by royj View Post

            Was that supposed to be funny?:confused:
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            • Profile picture of the author tpw
              Originally Posted by royj View Post

              I didn't. I didnt think it was funny at all.

              But there you go, some people find things funny , some don't

              So, you are reading the comments...

              What are you missing here?

              {Scratches head...}

              Did you read all of the comments?
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          • Profile picture of the author SantiSantana
            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            I just tapped into a Skype conversation between Matt Cutts and Mark
            Zuckerberg.

            Here is a partial transcription

            Matt: Mark, I just got an email about some dumbass thread over at the WF

            Mark: What's it about?

            Matt: Some dorkwad named Bill Platt spreading original content penalty rumors

            Mark: Bill Platt...didn't he play the chief on Get Smart?

            Matt: That's Edward Platt.

            Mark: I thought he played Oliver Babish on West Wing

            Matt: That's Oliver Platt you wingnut.

            Mark: But didn't he play Tweedle Dee in March Of The Wooden Soldiers?

            Matt: That's Oliver Hardy you jackass. Look, this is serious.

            Mark: So what do you want me to do about it?

            Matt: I want you to get on that rag of a site of yours and deny the
            rumors. Remember, the only reason you've even got a search engine
            ranking is because you're sleeping with my cousin Gertrude and you're
            the only one desperate enough to go near her. Now get on the horn
            and deny, deny, deny.

            Mark: What's the guy's name again?

            Matt: Bill Platt.

            Mark: Didn't he play (click)...Hello? Hello? Matt...you there?...Dickhead.
            CanĀ“t stop laughing at this one! pure genius!
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  • Profile picture of the author craig1983
    Good job all my content is unique I never have to worry about these rumors.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by craig1983 View Post

      Good job all my content is unique I never have to worry about these rumors.
      This isn't a rumour. This is True, Bills said so.

      All unique content sites are doomed. Panic, panic and oh more panic.
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    wait till you hear about about the internal linking penalty
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce NewMedia
    Bill, good trick, but I knew this was BS. Mainly because you took so long to build up and disclose the new 'penalty' ...pretty funny tho!
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by brucerby View Post

      Bill, good trick, but I knew this was BS. Mainly because you took so long to build up and disclose the new 'penalty' ...pretty funny tho!
      _____
      Bruce

      Bruce: I figured most people would catch on when I was talking about the "super paranoid"... LOL
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      • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        Bruce: I figured most people would catch on when I was talking about the "super paranoid"... LOL
        The first time I read the post I got an impression that you were high on cocaine or heroine.

        The second time I read the post I got an impression that I myself was high on something.

        The third time I read the post, I realized how big of a jackass I am

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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          This thread is a perfect testimony to Darwin's theory that man evolved
          from apes.

          Some men just haven't evolved as much as others.
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        • Profile picture of the author Sam England
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          This thread is a perfect testimony to Darwin's theory that man evolved
          from apes.

          Some men just haven't evolved as much as others.
          Wags...looks like you have a long ways to go then...

          Originally Posted by Mohammad Afaq View Post

          The first time I read the post I got an impression that you were high on cocaine or heroine.

          The second time I read the post I got an impression that I myself was high on something.

          The third time I read the post, I realize how big of a jackass I am
          ROFLMAO...Moh you crack me the F&&K up...you should become a comedian and do a gig with Bill...

          Stop...no the nightmares...
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        • Profile picture of the author paulie888
          Originally Posted by Mohammad Afaq View Post

          The first time I read the post I got an impression that you were high on cocaine or heroine.

          The second time I read the post I got an impression that I myself was high on something.

          The third time I read the post, I realized how big of a jackass I am

          Bill can be very subtle at times, and as a result some people fail to see the humor or intent in his posts, resulting in them being very peeved and indignant, which has been absolutely evident in the enraged and furious responses we've seen so far today!
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    Very confused with google new algorithm penalty.
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  • Profile picture of the author aandersen
    Oh noes, WSO time...

    Google UCF changed the game...

    "Subway Sandwich Artist goes from Five-Dollar Footlongs to making $9,742.00 in under 30 days just by scraping content off EzineArticles"

    I stole his secrets and I'm sharing them with you

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  • Profile picture of the author Biggy Fat
    I've never use(d) dupcon in my three years of IM, so I will be abiding by this new rule anyhow.
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  • Profile picture of the author marketwarrior06
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    its not possible. real content can't be screwed up. so the writers will always remain in their valuable position as they are.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimG
    I'm short selling Copyscape as I type this......muahahahaha!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
    Thanks for the warning, Bill. It makes sense when you think of it. Look how many AP stories get into the top search results, and just about every newspaper reruns their stories.

    Meanwhile, stuff that's truly unique gets buried on page 100 of the search results.

    It's so frustrating. Just imagine how much wealthier J.K. Rowling would be if she had let everyone copy Harry Potter and just give it away. She'd no doubt be rolling in the dough by now.

    Dang Google for punishing originality in this day and age when we really need more of it. But, I guess they are just following Hollywood's example. Bury the unique stuff and hype up the recycled garbage everyone is sick to death of watching.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

      Dang Google for punishing originality in this day and age when we really need more of it. But, I guess they are just following Hollywood's example. Bury the unique stuff and hype up the recycled garbage everyone is sick to death of watching.

      Well, it is like that other newbie said the other day, "Everything on the Internet is rehashed. There are no original ideas left."
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by wallstr33t View Post

      Sounds like a joke to me...

      Don't stop at reading just the original post, but continue to read the comments...

      You will learn more by doing that than reading the OP.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

        So... about that thing.... you about ready with your WSO?

        HOW I MADE IT ONTO THE FORBES LIST IN 12 HOURS EXPLOITING GOOGLE'S SECRET ORIGINAL CONTENT RULE!
        I've got your product name ... the Original Content Loophole. Gotta be a hit. Loopholes are always big hits.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          I've got your product name ... the Original Content Loophole. Gotta be a hit. Loopholes are always big hits.
          Nah. It's gotta be the Original Content Loophole Blueprint to get sales.
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          • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
            Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

            Nah. It's gotta be the Original Content Loophole Blueprint to get sales.

            Nah. It's gotta be the Original Content Loophole Ninja Blueprint to get sales.

            Everybody knows that...

            ~Bill
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            • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
              No Bill have you learned nothing Original Content Loophole Ninja Blueprint "On Crack"

              I your products are not under the influence of some narcotic you can never make sales.


              Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

              Nah. It's gotta be the Original Content Loophole Ninja Blueprint to get sales.

              Everybody knows that...

              ~Bill
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              • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
                Originally Posted by Cathy Shelver View Post

                No Bill have you learned nothing Original Content Loophole Ninja Blueprint "On Crack"

                Cathy - Nice try, but...

                Original Content Loophole Automated Ninja Blueprint on Crack

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                • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
                  Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

                  Cathy - Nice try, but...

                  Original Content Loophole Automated Ninja Blueprint on Crack

                  Nope. That's not good enough either. You gotta go big!

                  Killer Original Content Loophole Automated Ninja Master Crusher Blueprint on Crack - Deluxe Platinum Package
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                • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
                  Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

                  Cathy - Nice try, but...

                  Original Content Loophole Automated Ninja Blueprint on Crack

                  You guys are all wrong, it should be:

                  [RAVE REVIEWS] Original Content Loophole Automated Ninja Blueprint on Crack
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                  • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
                    Originally Posted by Mohammad Afaq View Post

                    You guys are all wrong, it should be:

                    [RAVE REVIEWS] Original Content Loophole Automated Ninja Blueprint on Crack
                    Too slow, dude. (So, is this the "LOTS" of work you're doing tonight?)
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                    • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
                      Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

                      Too slow, dude. (So, is this the "LOTS" of work you're doing tonight?)
                      Well no but I happen to be best friends with procrastination and that's why I am here
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                  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
                    Originally Posted by Mohammad Afaq View Post

                    You guys are all wrong, it should be:

                    [RAVE REVIEWS] Original Content Loophole Automated Ninja Blueprint on Crack
                    No, no, you have it all wrong.

                    [ENDORSED BY DAN C. RINNERT] Under The Radar Unique Content Loophole Gets You #1 Rankings On Google - So Easy To Do You Can Hand The Task Over To Your Pet Monkey!
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                    • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
                      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

                      No, no, you have it all wrong.

                      [ENDORSED BY DAN C. RINNERT] Under The Radar Unique Content Loophole Gets You #1 Rankings On Google - So Easy To Do You Can Hand The Task Over To Your Pet Monkey!
                      Ok I got the best one:


                      [ENDORSED BY DAN C. RINNERT] Under The Radar Unique Content Loophole Gets You #1 Rankings On Google While You Scratch Your Ass And Drink Pina Colada On a Beach
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                      • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
                        I'm gonna get rich off the licensing fees I'm going to charge Paul and Moh for the use of my name! Cha-ching!
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          I've got your product name ... the Original Content Loophole. Gotta be a hit. Loopholes are always big hits.
          Here's a possible headline...

          Who Else Wants to Get Rich Using Writers You Don't Have to Pay?

          Subhead...

          Just push the button and head for the beach while others slave away on your website - They make you rich without even knowing they are doing it!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Ratliff
    This is an epic post...period.

    Marketing psychology working on a marketing forum...love it.

    I didn't know your last name was Stern, Bill (kidding)
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    About time someone kicked googles ass. They think their GOD!. They can lick my brown hole
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    Figured it was a joke Wasn't 100% sure until I read the first few comments.

    Good point that you made with this!
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  • Profile picture of the author King Shiloh
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    I never saw the post as a BREAKING NEWS! I saw it as a Billing News!

    Bill's Back Breaking Badass Broadcast (B raised to the power of 5).
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  • Profile picture of the author TimG
    This thread has taken a life of its own. Won't be long now before word spreads over the Internet of original content's impending doom!!

    Respectfully,
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by TimG View Post

      This thread has taken a life of its own. Won't be long now before word spreads over the Internet of original content's impending doom!!

      Respectfully,
      Tim
      Tim, I actually mentioned the possibility of this occurring over on Bill's thread...and at the time of writing this, Dennis has observed that this thread is already #7 on the first page of Google.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by TimG View Post

      This thread has taken a life of its own. Won't be long now before word spreads over the Internet of original content's impending doom!!

      Respectfully,
      Tim

      The most beautiful part is how many Google page one listings this thing will have in its arsenal, as this story continues to develop.

      Of course, it will never be as cool as the recent discovery of planet Xectarious Troy by NASA's Orenthal Probe.
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      • Profile picture of the author King Shiloh
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        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        The most beautiful part is how many Google page one listings this thing will have in its arsenal, as this story continues to develop.

        Of course, it will never be as cool as the recent discovery of planet Xectarious Troy by NASA's Orenthal Probe.
        Did I hear you say "most beautiful"?

        Anyway, it's still part of the rumor.

        The story...sorry the rumor continues...:p
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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by King Shiloh View Post

          Did I hear you say "most beautiful"?

          Anyway, it's still part of the rumor.

          The story...sorry the rumor continues...:p

          As long as the Unique Content Penalty rumor remains primarily on the WF, then it will always only be a rumor...

          But if some person with an audience pops into the forum and reads only the OP, and communicates the Unique Content Penalty rumor through another website, the rumor will become a story.

          Have you ever played the game where 20 people stand in a circle, and the first whispers something, then the second person whispers the story to the third, etc.?

          The more people between the source and the story teller, the more likely the story will change and become something that it was never intended to convey.

          That is exactly how the Duplicate Content Penalty Myth got started....

          And here we are standing upon the precipice of launching another Google search myth, one that could develop a life of its own, but one that Warriors could laugh about until the end of times...

          All it is going to take is one person with an audience coming to read about the Unique Content Penalty rumor, as outlined here in the forum, read the post as fact and share the story with the world through their website.

          Once this story finds publication somewhere else, outside of the WF, it is outside our control, and a new search engine myth will be born.

          We already know through this test that people do come in and read only the original post, and take it at face value as a real Google penalty.

          And like Moh said, when he finally realizes that it is a joke, the story will already be in the wild, and he will realize what a Jack Ass he had been.

          The morning that I open one of my favorite newsletters and see someone trying to dispel the Unique Content Penalty, I will dance with joy, because suddenly people might stop to realize that the Duplicate Content Penalty is also a myth...

          After all, it will be so obvious to people that they will have to stop drinking the kool-aid and start using what God put between their ears, when it comes to making educated decisions about promoting their businesses online...
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          • Profile picture of the author paulie888
            Originally Posted by tpw View Post

            As long as the Unique Content Penalty rumor remains primarily on the WF, then it will always only be a rumor...

            But if some person with an audience pops into the forum and reads only the OP, and communicates the Unique Content Penalty rumor through another website, the rumor will become a story.

            Have you ever played the game where 20 people stand in a circle, and the first whispers something, then the second person whispers the story to the third, etc.?

            The more people between the source and the story teller, the more likely the story will change and become something that it was never intended to convey.

            That is exactly how the Duplicate Content Penalty Myth got started....

            And here we are standing upon the precipice of launching another Google search myth, one that could develop a life of its own, but one that Warriors could laugh about until the end of times...

            All it is going to take is one person with an audience coming to read about the Unique Content Penalty rumor, as outlined here in the forum, read the post as fact and share the story with the world through their website.

            Once this story finds publication somewhere else, outside of the WF, it is outside our control, and a new search engine myth will be born.

            We already know through this test that people do come in and read only the original post, and take it at face value as a real Google penalty.

            And like Moh said, when he finally realizes that it is a joke, the story will already be in the wild, and he will realize what a Jack Ass he had been.

            The morning that I open one of my favorite newsletters and see someone trying to dispel the Unique Content Penalty, I will dance with joy, because suddenly people might stop to realize that the Duplicate Content Penalty is also a myth...

            After all, it will be so obvious to people that they will have to stop drinking the kool-aid and start using what God put between their ears, when it comes to making educated decisions about promoting their businesses online...
            Bill, this was the very real concern I was voicing out on Dan's thread about the "new" FTC rules. As you've stated above, all it takes is one or two people with a large following to latch on to it, and pretty soon you have myth taking on the appearance of reality.

            Disturbing, but very possible. Let's hope that people have the common sense to see that we're only contriving a farce here.
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            Originally Posted by tpw View Post

            As long as the Unique Content Penalty rumor remains primarily on the WF, then it will always only be a rumor . . . and communicates the Unique Content Penalty rumor through another website . . . That is exactly how the Duplicate Content Penalty Myth got started . . . All it is going to take is one person with an audience coming to read about the Unique Content Penalty rumor . . . The morning that I open one of my favorite newsletters and see someone trying to dispel the Unique Content Penalty, I will dance with joy, because suddenly people might stop to realize that the Duplicate Content Penalty is also a myth

            ROFMLAO... I see what you did there Mr. Ex-SEO-Firm Owner


            EDIT: I just checked, and this thread is currently on Page 2 (position#12) for the search term Unique Content Penalty...

            If someone here who has SEO resources could throw some quick backlinks at it, I'm sure we could bump it to page 1 pretty easily. Come on, let's do it, and get this rummer going for real (for the greater good, of course).
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              Originally Posted by aandersen View Post

              ROFMLAO... I see what you did there Mr. Ex-SEO-Firm Owner


              EDIT: I just checked, and this thread is currently on Page 2 (position#12) for the search term Unique Content Penalty...

              If someone here who has SEO resources could throw some quick backlinks at it, I'm sure we could bump it to page 1 pretty easily. Come on, let's do it, and get this rummer going for real (for the greater good, of course).
              You absolutely have to read the description under the title -

              "Dec 29, 2010 ... Matt: Some dorkwad named Bill Platt spreading original content .... that is "Unique content penalty" myth, Myth, myth, myth....oh I give up. ..." - LMAO!!
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                Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

                You absolutely have to read the description under the title -

                "Dec 29, 2010 ... Matt: Some dorkwad named Bill Platt spreading original content .... that is "Unique content penalty" myth, Myth, myth, myth....oh I give up. ..." - LMAO!!

                Ohh that's too funny

                Out of every word in this post, this is the one that they choose for the description.

                Coincidence? Hmm...
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                  Originally Posted by aandersen View Post

                  Ohh that's too funny

                  Out of every word in this post, this is the one that they choose for the description.

                  Coincidence? Hmm...
                  Actually, I've tried checking everywhere on this thread, and those comments are nowhere to be found? LOL
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              • Profile picture of the author tpw
                Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                Bill, thanks for the inspiration for yet another classic Wags article.

                I wonder how many views that one is going to get.

                Okay, I'm having way too much fun with this.

                That was a great article Wags...

                Thank you for the mention...



                Originally Posted by Mohammad Afaq View Post

                Okey dokey, this thread is also ranking #1 for Content Penalty Rumor

                Now let's see how long it is before some "Pro-IM blog" picks it up

                Wags article is currently ranked #5 on the same search in Google.



                Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

                Originally Posted by aandersen View Post

                ROFMLAO... I see what you did there Mr. Ex-SEO-Firm Owner

                EDIT: I just checked, and this thread is currently on Page 2 (position#12) for the search term Unique Content Penalty...

                You absolutely have to read the description under the title -

                "Dec 29, 2010 ... Matt: Some dorkwad named Bill Platt spreading original content .... that is "Unique content penalty" myth, Myth, myth, myth....oh I give up. ..." - LMAO!!
                Currently #9 in search results.





                We are beating them back on the search for the original content penalty...

                Still on page two of the search results, but now it reads:

                original content penalty - WarriorForum
                Dec 29, 2010 ... Originally Posted by paulie888 Richard, you're absolutely right. Bill picked a topic and scenario that is true for the most part, ...
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                  Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                  Still on page two of the search results, but now it reads:

                  original content penalty - WarriorForum
                  Dec 29, 2010 ... Originally Posted by paulie888 Richard, you're absolutely right. Bill picked a topic and scenario that is true for the most part, ...
                  I am famous! I am faaaaamous! Who would have thought, little old me on the first page of Google. My old Mum will be so proud....

                  If I knew where she was of course. I've forgotten where the home is I put her. Sure it's round here somewhere.
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                  • Profile picture of the author tpw
                    Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                    I am famous! I am faaaaamous! Who would have thought, little old me on the first page of Google. My old Mum will be so proud....

                    If I knew where she was of course. I've forgotten where the home is I put her. Sure it's round here somewhere.

                    Check your broom closet...
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                      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                      Check your broom closet...
                      It's ok Bill, she was in the garage.

                      I got there just in time too....to show her the rankings.
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                      • Profile picture of the author tpw
                        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                        It's ok Bill, she was in the garage.

                        I got there just in time too....to show her the rankings.

                        And to make sure she did not start the car and wonder off into the sunset, never to return home, ever again?

                        You know when people get above the age of 46, you gotta start watching out for stuff like that...

                        In fact, I would be very concerned about "Tiger" having the keys to his car, for this very same reason...
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                        • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
                          Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                          And to make sure she did not start the car and wonder off into the sunset, never to return home, ever again?

                          You know when people get above the age of 46, you gotta start watching out for stuff like that...

                          In fact, I would be very concerned about "Tiger" having the keys to his car, for this very same reason...
                          It's ok Bill she's chained up. She escaped once before and held up the post office.

                          Can't take that sort of chance again. It's a full moon here as well tonight. That never helps.
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                  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
                    Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                    I am famous! I am faaaaamous! Who would have thought, little old me on the first page of Google. My old Mum will be so proud....

                    If I knew where she was of course. I've forgotten where the home is I put her. Sure it's round here somewhere.
                    Richard, unfortunately your 15 minutes of fame is over. This is the current description now:

                    "Dec 30, 2010 ... Does it mean the duplicate content Myth becomes reality in essence? or am I Way off. ..... "original content penalty" - I love it ..."
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                      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

                      Richard, unfortunately your 15 minutes of fame is over. This is the current description now:

                      "Dec 30, 2010 ... Does it mean the duplicate content Myth becomes reality in essence? or am I Way off. ..... "original content penalty" - I love it ..."
                      Oh dear, never mind.

                      It was our moment of fame Paulie, documented here forever, to tell our children and their childrens children, blah, blah, blah.

                      We will always be famous now regarding this google penalty rumour
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                      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
                        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                        Oh dear, never mind.

                        It was our moment of fame Paulie, documented here forever, to tell our children and their childrens children, blah, blah, blah.

                        We will always be famous now.
                        You're absolutely right, Richard. It has been documented for posterity right here in this forum, and as they say everything on the internet is permanent and leaves an indelible mark.

                        Our achievements will be floating around on the internet for eternity, and we will always be remembered for them!
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        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        The most beautiful part is how many Google page one listings this thing will have in its arsenal, as this story continues to develop.

        Of course, it will never be as cool as the recent discovery of planet Xectarious Troy by NASA's Orenthal Probe.
        Now Bill, did you just pull those names out of a hat, or was that from some vague recollection of a long-lost Star Trek episode?
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    LOL, quite a long thread for Unique Content Penalty that Matt said would be implemented January 2011
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      Originally Posted by rapidscc View Post

      LOL, quite a long thread for Unique Content Penalty that Matt Cutts said would be implemented January 2011

      Oh good!! You found the date on a more official announcement!!

      Awesome!!

      I had just heard the rumor... I had no idea they were going to move so quickly with it...
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      Originally Posted by rapidscc View Post

      LOL, quite a long thread for Unique Content Penalty that Matt said would be implemented January 2011
      Thanks for giving us the news on when this will happen...now could you dig a bit deeper and give us an exact date for the event?
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    See this is why I love reading these forums, so many retards hell bent on making money... too bad 85% of people here have no brains.

    Best piss take post ever.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Joshyybaxx View Post

      See this is why I love reading these forums, so many retards hell bent on making money... too bad 85% of people here have no brains.

      Best piss take post ever.

      When it hits him, will he admit that maybe he wasn't using his when he made this post?

      Joshyybaxx, don't just read the first post, read a few responses first, before posting again... LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author Joshyybaxx
    Well if it changes after the first post and responses I'm guilty of being a mindless tard

    *re-reads the thread and hopes I'm not stupid*

    -edit

    I still think my point stands that the majority of warrior forum are idiots.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Joshyybaxx View Post

      I still think my point stands that the majority of warrior forum are idiots.
      Maybe so...

      You certainly would not be the first person to draw that conclusion...
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      • Profile picture of the author Alminc
        Original content penalty? Thanks God, finally something effective I can
        use to kill my competitors' websites and take over the #1 position
        on a shoestring budget.

        Here's my plan.

        Since the majority of #1 websites today are blogs I only need to post
        as much original content to their blogs as humanly possible. But since
        I'm very lazy I'm going to outsource the original content creation on a
        mass scale and get huge discount from content providers.

        I'm just not quite sure about the keywords...

        Bill, did Matt say anything about targeted original content penalty?

        Shell I optimize the original content for my competitors' best keywords?

        Would that kill them faster?


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        • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
          Anyone know any good duplicate content writers?

          Forget all these unique article writing thieves. I don't want anything spun either, some of those are a certain percent unique.

          I need some high quality writer who can copy stuff word for word. I'll pay $100 an article - Anyone?
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          • Profile picture of the author paulie888
            Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

            Anyone know any good duplicate content writers?

            Forget all these unique article writing thieves. I don't want anything spun either, some of those are a certain percent unique.

            I need some high quality writer who can copy stuff word for word. I'll pay $100 an article - Anyone?
            Richard, if you're offering $100 an article for duplicate content writers, you'll have more of them knocking down your door than you know what do with.

            You'll need to have some sort of selection criteria to judge them on the basis of their content duplication skills to weed out the inept ones, as you only want the really good duplicators out there.
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            • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
              Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

              Richard, if you're offering $100 an article for duplicate content writers, you'll have more of them knocking down your door than you know what do with.

              You'll need to have some sort of selection criteria to judge them on the basis of their content duplication skills to weed out the inept ones, as you only want the really good duplicators out there.
              Exactly Paulie, 100% un-unique or I'm not paying a dime.

              A simple copy and paste will suffice.

              There must be someone out there that does this??
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              • Profile picture of the author paulie888
                Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                Exactly Paulie, 100% un-unique or I'm not paying a dime.

                A simple copy and paste will suffice.

                There must be someone out there that does this??
                You probably don't even need to look online for people who can do this. Just visit your average slum area high school and you'll have more candidates than you can shake a stick at.
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                • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
                  Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

                  You probably don't even need to look online for people who can do this. Just visit your average slum area high school and you'll have more candidates than you can shake a stick at.
                  No, no, no no, no Paulie.

                  I don't want cheap $4 an article people. I need high quality duplicate content article writers. Thats why I'm offering $100 an article.

                  They must be able to copy and paste perfectly. You think anyone can do that? Of course not, it takes time, practise and many years of dedication to copy and paste Paulie. Thats why Google's hammering down on unique content. Any Tom, Dick and Harry can write original content.

                  Honestly Paulie, I thought you were a little sharper than that!! ()
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                  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
                    Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                    No, no, no no, no Paulie.

                    I don't want cheap $4 an article people. I need high quality duplicate content article writers. Thats why I'm offerring $100 an article.

                    They must be able to copy and paste perfectly. You think anyone can do that? Of course not, it takes time, practise and many years of dedication to copy and paste Paulie. Thats why Google's hammering down on unique content. Any Tom, Dick and Harry can write original content.

                    Honestly Paulie, I thought you were a little sharper than that!! ()
                    In that case, I can refer you to just about any one of the elite private schools here, where students thrive on swift copying and pasting so that it doesn't cut down on their gym time, parties, socializing, sports and leisure time.

                    They are utterly dedicated to the art of perfect duplication as their very precious leisure time is at stake if they don't reach perfection in this area, and their high grade point averages cannot be sacrificed either.

                    They are in dire need of pocket money to buy the latest iPads and Prada bags, and will be more than happy to work for you at $100 per article.
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                      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

                      In that case, I can refer you to just about any one of the elite private schools here, where students thrive on swift copying and pasting so that it doesn't cut down on their gym time, parties, socializing, sports and leisure time.

                      They are utterly dedicated to the art of perfect duplication as their very precious leisure time is at stake if they don't reach perfection in this area, and their high grade point averages cannot be sacrificed either.

                      They are in dire need of pocket money to buy the latest iPads and Prada bags, and will be more than happy to work for you at $100 per article.
                      Oh great! Thanks Paulie.

                      PM sent!!
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            Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

            Anyone know any good duplicate content writers?

            Forget all these unique article writing thieves. I don't want anything spun either, some of those are a certain percent unique.

            I need some high quality writer who can copy stuff word for word. I'll pay $100 an article - Anyone?
            The only "robot" that can do it died this morning. What killed...?

            Rheumatism... sorry plagiarism.
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            • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
              Just a thought but if Bill alters the thread title to include "original content penalty" won't it stand a better chance still of ranking higher?

              Just a thought.
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              • Profile picture of the author tpw
                Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                Just a thought but if Bill alters the thread title to include "original content penalty" won't it stand a better chance still of ranking higher?

                Just a thought.

                If I change the title to include "original content penalty", it will help this thread to rank for that term.

                But that is only one ranking factor out of more than 100 ranking factors...

                I have been doing the SEO thing long enough that I know adding the target keywords to the title would help, but I also know that it is also an unnecessary step to take.

                We can rank these pages for the target keywords, without changing the actual URL of the thread. I thought about putting it in the original title, but I opted instead for the curiosity factor.

                To prove that the keyword phrase in the title can definitely impact a pages' ranking in Google, check the current results in Google for: new Google penalty, and you will find this thread in the #7 spot. Take note that the target keywords are not at the front of the title, but they are still in the title.



                As far as linking signals on specific target keywords, we do not even need to go off-site to get those links. We can build them all from within the Warrior Forum, and still get the job done.

                Long live the unique content penalty, and death-be-quick to the Duplicate Content Penalty myth!!!

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                • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
                  Bill,

                  I wasn't trying to teach you how to suck eggs. It was just a suggestion as that's all I thought the thread was "targetting".

                  I also know you've been around SEO long enough to lose teeth and hair, so don't think I'd be trying to teach you anything you already know.

                  Call it a school boy error on my part, I had know idea how deep the planning went into a thread like this. :rolleyes:
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                  • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
                    Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                    Anyone know any good duplicate content writers?

                    Forget all these unique article writing thieves. I don't want anything spun either, some of those are a certain percent unique.

                    I need some high quality writer who can copy stuff word for word. I'll pay $100 an article - Anyone?
                    There's further proof that people don't read all the comments. Otherwise, you would have several PMs and a few responses in the thread of those offering to "take up this job".

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                      Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

                      There's further proof that people don't read all the comments. Otherwise, you would have several PMs and a few responses in the thread of those offering to "take up this job".

                      Tina
                      You'd be surprised. I was inundated.

                      "Oooooh. Let me copy and paste, I'll do it for $5"

                      Yup, spent hours deleting them

                      In all honesty I was expecting some though!
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                  • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
                    Don't let Bill ever talk to you about SEO it could numb your brain, his planning is of "great pyramid" proportions.

                    Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                    Bill,

                    I wasn't trying to teach you how to suck eggs. It was just a suggestion as that's all I thought the thread was "targetting".

                    I also know you've been around SEO long enough to lose teeth and hair, so don't think I'd be trying to teach you anything you already know.

                    Call it a school boy error on my part, I had know idea how deep the planning went into a thread like this. :rolleyes:
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                  • Profile picture of the author tpw
                    Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                    Bill,

                    I wasn't trying to teach you how to suck eggs. It was just a suggestion as that's all I thought the thread was "targetting".

                    I also know you've been around SEO long enough to lose teeth and hair, so don't think I'd be trying to teach you anything you already know.

                    Call it a school boy error on my part, I had know idea how deep the planning went into a thread like this. :rolleyes:

                    I knew you were joking, but not everyone reading the thread would see that.

                    In fact, many would read your joke and then wonder why I did not do as you suggested.

                    You would be surprised how much planning went into something like this.

                    I had to pick a topic that would generate interest. I would have to figure out how to build suspense and expose the joke. I had to figure out what keywords to include in the thread. I have to word the title for maximum open rates.

                    Then I had to schedule it to run when I would actually be around to feed it and to nurture it.

                    There was actually a full 36 hours of mental planning before I sat down to write it up and release it. Then I wrote it up in half an hour and set it free.
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                    • Profile picture of the author aandersen
                      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                      I had to pick a topic that would generate interest. I would have to figure out how to build suspense and expose the joke. I had to figure out what keywords to include in the thread. I hate to word the title for maximum open rates.

                      Then I had to schedule it to run when I would actually be around to feed it and to nurture it.

                      There was actually a full 36 hours of mental planning before I sat down to write it up and release it. Then I wrote it up in half an hour and set it free.
                      ^^^ signs of a real writer ^^^

                      Good job, for real... I would say your experiment tuned out quite successful
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            • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
              Bill, thanks for the inspiration for yet another classic Wags article.

              I wonder how many views that one is going to get.

              Okay, I'm having way too much fun with this.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by Joshyybaxx View Post


      I still think my point stands that the majority of warrior forum are idiots.
      I certainly wouldn't disagree with you on that point, and I feel that this thread has hammered it home.
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        Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

        I certainly wouldn't disagree with you on that point, and I feel that this thread has hammered it home.
        Hey

        Compare first post and last posts in this thread. Now we are discussing completely different topics :p
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    Well, the "Matt: Some dorkwad named Bill Platt spreading original content" part was in Wags' post #102, but the rest isn't in this thread at all.
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      Originally Posted by aandersen View Post

      Well, the "Matt: Some dorkwad named Bill Platt spreading original content" part was in Wags' post #102, but the rest isn't in this thread at all.
      It's curious that they would pluck a phrase from a seemingly random post to use for the description, and I'm still perplexed as to where the rest of that description came from...lol!
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    It came from a Google employee for sure... pretty funny, really
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      Originally Posted by aandersen View Post

      It came from a Google employee for sure... pretty funny, really
      That's what I'm thinking too - this thread must have really caught their attention, because it's extremely rare for Google to do something like this with a description!
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      Originally Posted by aandersen View Post

      It came from a Google employee for sure... pretty funny, really
      No I think it was written by Steve Wagenheim on his spoof transcript, way back now.

      EDIT. Actually it's above this again now
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      • Profile picture of the author aandersen
        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

        No I think it was written by Steve Wagenheim on his spoof transcript, way back now.

        EDIT. Actually it's above this again now
        I get that. That's why I said

        Originally Posted by aandersen View Post

        Well, the "Matt: Some dorkwad named Bill Platt spreading original content" part was in Wags' post #102, but the rest isn't in this thread at all.
        However, the reset of the description:

        "myth, Myth, myth, myth....oh I give up. ..."

        is no where in this thread at all, and was obviously added on manually by someone. At least that's my theory.
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          Originally Posted by aandersen View Post

          I get that, that's why I said :



          However, the reset of the description:

          "myth, Myth, myth, myth....oh I give up. ..."

          is no where in this thread at all, and was obviously added on manually by someone. At least that's my theory.
          Sorry chap, I missed that bit. I was looking at the "for sure" comment, then I spotted it.
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          • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
            Believe it or not, there are 3 results for "unique content penalty" and 2 of
            them were posted long before this thread.

            So either two people were joking around or stupidly dead serious that such
            a thing would exist.

            But Bill, you're right...as this is the # 1 Internet marketing forum on the
            planet, this thread just might start something that we're all going to laugh
            at for years to come.

            Remains to be seen.
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    No worries!!

    On that note, I still think we should try to rank it. I doubt Bill would object to being called a dorkwad on the first page of google. I mean, he's been called a lot worse LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    Okey dokey, this thread is also ranking #1 for Content Penalty Rumor

    Now let's see how long it is before some "Pro-IM blog" picks it up
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      Originally Posted by Mohammad Afaq View Post

      Okey dokey, this thread is also ranking #1 for Content Penalty Rumor

      Now let's see how long it is before some "Pro-IM blog" picks it up
      I predict that we'll see a flurry of activity in the first two weeks of the New Year. Some IMer is going to read the first few sentences and start panicking, after which he'll post to his blog and let everyone on Twitter/Facebook/his list know about the impending doom from Google...lol!
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        Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

        I predict that we'll see a flurry of activity in the first two weeks of the New Year. Some IMer is going to read the first few sentences and start panicking, after which he'll post to his blog and let everyone on Twitter/Facebook/his list know about the impending doom from Google...lol!

        Just go to some forum and drop a fearful post about the new Google Penalty Rumor (currently #1 in Google), and tell them that they can find out about it in Google.

        Let em race to Google and find it. Then race here.

        If they are racing to learn about it, they are more likely to be racing to tell the world about it.
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        • Profile picture of the author paulie888
          Originally Posted by tpw View Post

          Just go to DP and drop a fearful post about the new Google Penalty Rumor (currently #1 in Google), and tell them that they can find out about it in Google.

          Let em race to Google and find it. Then race here.

          If they are racing to learn about it, they are more likely to be racing to tell the world about it.
          Well, I'm sure they'll be racing to tell everyone in no time at all, but do we really want to be this cruel and get so proactive about spreading the rumor?
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          • Profile picture of the author tpw
            Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

            Well, I'm sure they'll be racing to tell everyone in no time at all, but do we really want to be this cruel and get so proactive about spreading the rumor?

            Nah... No need to be proactive about it.

            It could very well find its way into the world without our tinkering with it.

            And honestly, it will be more powerful if it becomes a story on its own.

            But that does not mean we should not keep up the fun part of SEO for it... LOL

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            • Profile picture of the author paulie888
              Originally Posted by tpw View Post

              Nah... No need to be proactive about it.

              It could very well find its way into the world without our tinkering with it.

              And honestly, it will be more powerful if it becomes a story on its own.

              But that does not mean we should not keep up the fun part of SEO for it... LOL

              Bill
              Bill, I'm almost certain it will. No need for us to do any further work in disseminating this 'news'.

              Of course, we'll have to see how we can manipulate the SEO for even better rankings! LOL
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                Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

                Bill, I'm almost certain it will. No need for us to do any further work in disseminating this 'news'.

                Of course, we'll have to see how we can manipulate the SEO for even better rankings! LOL

                The best advice I would instruct on the SEO is to see which rankings point to internal thread pages, then build links to the first page in the thread with those keywords.

                It certainly would be better for example for the ranking on Google Penalty Rumor to point the the first page instead of the fourth page of this thread.

                If we are building links, we should try to point to all of the pages in the thread. Yet, the prominent links with bold on the phrase should always go to the first page in the thread.

                We want them to find this in the search engines, but it kind of kills the possibilities of the thread becoming a viral story, if the person landing here arrives on a page where the first post on the page clearly states that it is one huge joke...
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    If only it were true! There would be less clutter on the web.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sam England
      Bill...have you counted all the fish that you shot in that barrel?
      I see there are still a few swimming around...
      Time to reload the shotgun!
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        Originally Posted by Hambonz43 View Post

        Bill...have you counted all the fish that you shot in that barrel?
        I see there are still a few swimming around...
        Time to reload the shotgun!

        Actually, I wasn't shooting them fish with a shotgun.

        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        Michael: It is like shooting fish in a barrel, with a bazooka...
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      Originally Posted by Thaddaeus T. Hogg View Post

      I would be tellin you what ole Thad thought but, to be honest, I ain't got one clue in heaven what that fellar said!
      You totally wouldn't understand anyways! "YOU GOT PUNKED"

      Chet told me for you to go back to your shack in North Carolina...Zelda is waiting...better get back to Hog Huntin you Hillbilly Redneck...
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    Between us, the search results description for unique content penalty is actually content that does appear in the thread on page 3...

    The first sentence of course is Wags comment... The second part beginning with "Unique content penalty" is what Richard had said on the same page about half-way down the page.




    The description was not commented by a Google employee, but it sure does look like that, doesn't it?
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      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      The first sentence of course is Wags comment... The second part beginning with "Unique content penalty" is what Richard had said on the same page about half-way down the page.
      Damn, you're right.

      That's what I get for wanting to believe in Google conspiracy theories. Oh well...

      I actually searched thread for the text "myth, myth, myth" before coming to the conclusion that Google was out to get you, but obviously I missed that post by Richard.

      I still think it's pretty funny that out of all the posts in this thread those are the ones G uses for the description.

      Anyway, Viva La Unique Content Penalty!!
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        Originally Posted by aandersen View Post

        Damn, you're right.

        That's what I get for wanting to believe in Google conspiracy theories. Oh well...

        I actually searched thread for the text "myth, myth, myth" before coming to the conclusion that Google was out to get you, but obviously I missed that post by Richard.

        I still think it's pretty funny that out of all the posts in this thread those are the ones G uses for the description.

        Anyway, Viva La Unique Content Penalty!!
        I was fooled too, in my rush to look through the posts I had never imagined the possibility that they'd just combine seemingly random statements from the thread in the description. I've never seen this happen before, so it had never even entered my mind yesterday to do a more in-depth search.
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          FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
          December 31, 2010

          Google Inc.
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          Mountain View, CA 94043
          United States

          Matt Cutts, head of Google's Webspam team, releases
          video to dispel Original Content Penalty myth started by
          a Mr. Bill Platt at WarriorForum.com:

          http://tinyurl.com/original-content-penalty


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            UPDATE:

            Bill O'Reilly (of Fox News fame) comments on Matt Cutts' video
            dispelling the Original Content Penalty myth started by a
            Mr. Bill Platt at WarriorForum.com.

            See video link below for details, and remember...
            "The Spin Stops Here, Because We're Looking Out For You!"

            http://tinyurl.com/fox-news-the-factor


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            • Profile picture of the author Alminc
              WARNING: You guys are still posting original content in this thread.
              Are you mad?
              STOP IT IMMEDIATELY!
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              • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
                Originally Posted by Alminc View Post

                WARNING: You guys are still posting original content in this thread.
                Are you mad?
                STOP IT IMMEDIATELY!
                WARNING: You guys are still posting original content in this thread.
                Are you mad?
                STOP IT IMMEDIATELY!

                There is that better? Aaaargh, done it again.

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                  Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                  WARNING: You guys are still posting original content in this thread.
                  Are you mad?
                  STOP IT IMMEDIATELY!

                  There is that better? Aaaargh, done it again.

                  Shouldn't that be "OOPS, I did it again..."?:p
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                    Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

                    Shouldn't that be "OOPS, I did it again..."?:p
                    Ah John, a secret Britney Spears fan.

                    I knew it.
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              Originally Posted by JoeCool View Post

              UPDATE:

              Bill O'Reilly (of Fox News fame) comments on Matt Cutts' video
              dispelling the Original Content Penalty myth started by a
              Mr. Bill Platt at WarriorForum.com.

              See video link below for details, and remember...
              "The Spin Stops Here, Because We're Looking Out For You!"

              http://tinyurl.com/fox-news-the-factor

              I watched the first video promptly. I just now caught this one.

              Awesome.

              That is definitely melting down on camera...
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