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A Thank You To Allen. How long have you been here? Makesmiles, Two*****

by Tim_Carter
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If you know what those last two words mean you have been a Warrior for a long time.

I think it was 1992 when I started my quest to make money on the internet. Saw this page selling access to the Warriors for $20 or something like that.

It gave access to a single page full of rights Allen had purchased. He talked a lot about obtaining rights to other peoples products and reselling them,

There wasn't even a forum back then, but for the time it was revolutionary.

I accessed it on and off for a few years and then forgot about it. When I decided to get serious again I looked it up again and found the old forum.

I got started and never look back.

So thank you Allen. I owe you a lot for putting me on my path to success.

Tim Carter
#allen #long #makesmiles
  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Tim,

    You joined 5 years before he founded it? Wow. You really ARE an old-timer.

    I joined in 97 or 98. I can never remember. I do recall having to send a check, because there was no way to pay online. And yes, I remember what those two words are, and how to complete the second.

    When I joined it was either $37 or $47, and the forum already existed. The place was infested with the early version of email spammers. Cleaning that out was... fun.


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    • Profile picture of the author DiamondWinnings
      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

      Tim,

      You joined 5 years before he founded it? Wow. You really ARE an old-timer.

      I joined in 97 or 98. I can never remember. I do recall having to send a check, because there was no way to pay online. And yes, I remember what those two words are, and how to complete the second.

      When I joined it was either $37 or $47, and the forum already existed. The place was infested with the early version of email spammers. Cleaning that out was... fun.


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      How do you feel like being a veteran here?
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      • Profile picture of the author noangel
        I received an email from Allen in 97 or 98 saying he was starting a
        forum and asking if I would like to join.

        There was a membership fee and we had ID numbers in the order
        we joined and I was amongst the first 5 people to join :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

      When I joined it was either $37 or $47, and the forum already existed. The place was infested with the early version of email spammers. Cleaning that out was... fun.
      Considering you were the first mod and only mod for the longest time...yeah, that had to be some fun.

      That makesmiles was the login and password for the secret stash of stuff Allen kept around for paying customers.

      Fun times for sure.
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    Lol. I guess time flies when having fun. My memory isn't what it used to be.

    So yes - I am an old timer based on my memory of years at least.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    http://www.ebookfix.com/I know the last two words,what I want to know is do you still have the page bookmarked?

    I joined about 97 or 98. I heard about it through Teresa King who was very active at EBooksWholesaler.net and here back then. I believe it was $37 or $47 too. I must have been just behind Paul because I think I paid via Paypal (probably makes it in around '98).

    Remember when Paypal was new and had a refferal program? They would give you $10 for sending someone their way,then it dropped to $5,then they stopped it completely.

    Anybody remember the one and only product I created? EBookFix,which fixed the "broken ebooks" that SP1 created with XP,but it was soon obsolete when it was fixed with SP2. I just uploaded the basic page (without graphics and such) but you can get the general idea. Here.

    Back then everybody helped everybody.

    AH,those were the days.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by KimW View Post

      I know the last two words,what I want to know is do you still have the page bookmarked?

      I joined about 97 or 98. I heard about it through Teresa King who was very active at EBooksWholesaler.net and here back then. I believe it was $37 or $47 too. I must have been just behind Paul because I think I paid via Paypal (probably makes it in around '98).

      Remember when Paypal was new and had a refferal program? They would give you $10 for sending someone their way,then it dropped to $5,then they stopped it completely.

      Anybody remember the one and only product I created? EBookFix,which fixed the "broken ebooks" that SP1 created with XP,but it was soon obsolete when it was fixed with SP2.

      Back then everybody helped everybody.

      AH,those were the days.
      warriorpro recently lapsed. It was up for a LONG time though.
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      • Profile picture of the author KimW
        Originally Posted by Alan Petersen View Post

        Wow I see that e-book everywhere in the PLR world! You were the source if it?

        Dinner Parties Made Simple: Master Resale Rights - Master Resell Rights: Master Resale Rights - eBooks, and Software with Master Resell Rights

        I always wonder when I see these e-books that seem to be alive and kicking for years in the PLR circuit if whomever wrote knew it would live on and on and on like that. Cool.
        Alan, I don't think anybody has/had PLR rights to that if it was bought by EBookWholesalers. I know MRR were given to members.

        Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

        warriorpro recently lapsed. It was up for a LONG time though.
        Steve, Wow, I had forgotten about WarriorPro.
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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
          Floyd,
          Considering you were the first mod and only mod for the longest time...yeah, that had to be some fun.
          If you remember a time when there were five or fewer moderators here, you qualify as an old-timer.

          I'm glad Kim mentioned Teresa King. I doubt even many of the old-timers realize just how much of an influence she was on the way the culture of this group developed over the first few years. She's a class act.


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        • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
          Originally Posted by KimW View Post

          Alan, I don't think anybody has/had PLR rights to that if it was bought by EBookWholesalers. I know MRR were given to members.



          Steve, Wow, I had forgotten about WarriorPro.

          The deal was for EbookWholesalers to have exclusive rights to sell it for 6 months - meaning no one else but me and EbookWholesalers members could sell it.

          Since then, I have offered MRR on the ebook. I don't think I ever issued PLR - but really, who knows? I did on at least one of my other ebooks, Install Your Own Scripts. I may have done PLR as a WSO once.

          Alan - I wrote that really as a lark. I wanted to write and someone here on the forum (the old Unisol one, of course) said "Write about something you know".

          After my divorce from my first wife I got "taken in" by a group of 8 women at the company I worked at (they felt sorry for me...LOL). Every Monday they used to have "Melrose Parties" where each week, one would host a dinner party, then watch Melrose, then have dessert, coffee, wine, and just talk. I was the only man ever invited to those - and man I could tell you stories of THEIR conversations

          Of course, I had to take my turn. I could always cook, but dinner parties were a new thing for me and I found I had a knack for it. Still do - I did this past Thanksgiving AND Christmas.

          That's the story of THAT ebook
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
    I joined in 2000. I know those 2 words too. I spent hours on that page

    There was an old Autoresponder script on that page, which was my first attempt at installing a CGI script - which ultimately lead to the start of my script installation business. Made good money doing that until the onset of PHP/MySQL scripts with auto-installers

    Kim - EbookWholesaler.net was my first real sale of a product on the internet. Tom Hua bought the rights to my first ebook (Dinner Parties Made Simple) for $600. I was on a cloud for a month. The inspiration to write the ebook was due to the WF and a thread I was participating in.

    Ah, the memories...
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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
      Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

      I joined in 2000. I know those 2 words too. I spent hours on that page

      There was an old Autoresponder script on that page, which was my first attempt at installing a CGI script - which ultimately lead to the start of my script installation business. Made good money doing that until the onset of PHP/MySQL scripts with auto-installers

      Kim - EbookWholesaler.net was my first real sale of a product on the internet. Tom Hua bought the rights to my first ebook (Dinner Parties Made Simple) for $600. I was on a cloud for a month. The inspiration to write the ebook was due to the WF and a thread I was participating in.

      Ah, the memories...
      Wow I see that e-book everywhere in the PLR world! You were the source if it?

      Dinner Parties Made Simple: Master Resale Rights - Master Resell Rights: Master Resale Rights - eBooks, and Software with Master Resell Rights

      I always wonder when I see these e-books that seem to be alive and kicking for years in the PLR circuit if whomever wrote knew it would live on and on and on like that. Cool.
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    Mike,
    I still belong to Ebookwholesaler,though sadly its not very active nowadays, though Tom still is.
    At one time he paid a small group of us $50 a month to review the potential ebooks for release by the site. He also gave me a testimonial for my program, EBookFix,which worked on a lot of his and many others ebooks. I might put up the index page one day for others to see how things have changed since then.
    Anyway, He used to give us a monthly payment. When I got sick I sent him an email telling him to stop sending my the money as I was unable to review books anymore for him. He continued to send me that money probably for another year.
    Tom's a decent guy.
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    Originally Posted by Tim_Carter View Post

    If you know what those last two words mean you have been a Warrior for a long time.

    I think it was 1992 when I started my quest to make money on the internet. Saw this page selling access to the Warriors for $20 or something like that.

    It gave access to a single page full of rights Allen had purchased. He talked a lot about obtaining rights to other peoples products and reselling them,

    There wasn't even a forum back then, but for the time it was revolutionary.

    I accessed it on and off for a few years and then forgot about it. When I decided to get serious again I looked it up again and found the old forum.

    I got started and never look back.

    So thank you Allen. I owe you a lot for putting me on my path to success.

    Tim Carter
    I was telling this to people for a long time, and I bet most didn't believe me. I think I paid $25, but the link to the forum came some time after that. I had too much to do, and had just kind of recovered from BBS's(What forums were called then, and they weren't REALLY on the internet), so I took a while to join. That was like 4 or 5 iterations back. I forget EXACTLY when.

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    Teresa helped me out a lot when I was first starting out,both at EBookWholesaler where she was THE go-to person and here at The Warrior Forum.
    I wonder what happened to her.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Wright
    I was a member of "The Article Network."

    You put up an article and somehow your article appeared on the net with links to other articles in the article network.

    I didn't have an article so I found one on the Internet and emailed the author of the article and asked permission to use his article as my own.

    He wrote back "sure, go ahead."

    I got an invitation from someone to join a "secret site."

    It all came together one day when I noticed the "Article Network," The Article I "borrowed" to put on the Article Network and this new "Warriors of Internet Marketing Secret Site" were ALL owned by Allen Says.

    He has probably forgotten long ago, but I still have nightmares of him probably laughing as I asked permission to republish his article on his article network and joining his secret site/later forum. Not knowing for a while I was dealing with the same person. It was almost like Allen was the first person on the Internet.

    And Paul was not the Mod. He was the Moderator.

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    • Profile picture of the author Tim_Carter
      Lol.

      Good one.

      Originally Posted by George Wright View Post

      I was a member of "The Article Network."

      You put up an article and somehow your article appeared on the net with links to other articles in the article network.

      I didn't have an article so I found one on the Internet and emailed the author of the article and asked permission to use his article as my own.

      He wrote back "sure, go ahead."

      I got an invitation from someone to join a "secret site."

      It all came together one day when I noticed the "Article Network," The Article I "borrowed" to put on the Article Network and this new "Warriors of Internet Marketing Secret Site" were ALL owned by Allen Says.

      He has probably forgotten long ago, but I still have nightmares of him probably laughing as I asked permission to republish his article on his article network and joining his secret site/later forum. Not knowing for a while I was dealing with the same person. It was almost like Allen was the first person on the Internet.

      And Paul was not the Mod. He was the Moderator.

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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      George,
      I didn't have an article so I found one on the Internet and emailed the author of the article and asked permission to use his article as my own.

      He wrote back "sure, go ahead."
      And then posted in the forum about it. He didn't mention your name, but he did comment on how he admired the spirit of the request. And how funny it was.
      And Paul was not the Mod. He was the Moderator.
      Actually, he was just 'Paul' back then. With only Allen and I having access to approve posts, we didn't need the titles. They still shouldn't matter, but folks need labels to accept things, it seems. Especially when you're dealing with large groups.

      We have more people viewing the WSO section right now than we had total members back then.


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