NBA Playoffs 2011 - Predictions and Winners

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Hey all,

Didn't see a post on this subject yet, but playoffs just started yesterday and it's already off to a fun and unpredictable start!

Lifelong Lakers fan, and I don't see any team getting in their way of a 3peat unless we face the Celtics in the Finals where it could go either way.

Who are you rooting for and who do you think will win it all this year?
  • Profile picture of the author AdamWagner
    Lakers! The boys gotta get one more ring for good ol' Phil so he can go out on top!
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Let me chime in with my two fellow Laker fans.

    Looks like we're going to work our way through this late season slump as we played horrible defense yesterday against the Hornets and even lost the game.

    I was expecting a sweep but that's not going to happen.

    Maybe this title will be like our championship of 1988 where we had to win at least 3 seven game series in order to win the championship.

    I agree, no one in the west can beat us.

    All The Best & Go Lakers!!!!!!!!!!!!

    TL
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    It looks like the Big 3 (Celts, Lakers, Spurs) may be the "Old 3". I thought one of them would win it all this year, but none looked very good in their first games.

    My heart is with my Nuggets, but they are really banged up right now and about the only team they've struggled with are the Thunder....Just match ups. Durant just kills us.

    My Nugget pet peeve: How we can't win it all without a superstar. I tend to agree, however no one was picking us when we had Carmelo either and we are definately a better team without him. These new "Knugget" players are all pretty good...
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Nice to see the Lakers lose yesterday!

      I'm pulling for the Nuggets, The Thunder or the Bulls.
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      • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Nice to see the Lakers lose yesterday!

        I'm pulling for the Nuggets, The Thunder or the Bulls.

        Tim, I'm looking forward to our second round match up with the Thunder.

        They're a year better, we're a year older so this time it will take 7 games to send them fishing.

        I know you probable don't want to hear it, but we want the men in green again.


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        • Profile picture of the author Kurt
          Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

          Tim, I'm looking forward to our second round match up with the Thunder.

          They're a year better, we're a year older so this time it will take 7 games to send them fishing.

          I know you probable don't want to hear it, but we want the men in green again.


          TL

          Someone's counting their chickens before they hatch.

          BTW, the Nuggets have outplayed the Thunder in a couple of these recent games, but couldn't hit free throws. And these are guys that are career 85% FT shooters...The last 3 weeks we can't make a free throw for some reason.

          But the Nuggets biggest problem right now IMO is that both point guards Ray Felton and Ty Lawson have sprained ankles and both are speed guys that rely on being faster than Westbrook. When Ty's healthy and at full speed, Westbrook can't cover Ty Lawson.
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          • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

            Someone's counting their chickens before they hatch.

            BTW, the Nuggets have outplayed the Thunder in a couple of these recent games, but couldn't hit free throws. And these are guys that are career 85% FT shooters...The last 3 weeks we can't make a free throw for some reason.

            But the Nuggets biggest problem right now IMO is that both point guards Ray Felton and Ty Lawson have sprained ankles and both are speed guys that rely on being faster than Westbrook. When Ty's healthy and at full speed, Westbrook can't cover Ty Lawson.

            I hear you Kurt. (see below)

            Denver can score, but can they defend?

            ( this question has plagued the Denver franchise since the days of Issel, Kikki and Alex )

            Denver can not beat Durant & The Thunder if those two are not 100% and playing great.

            I do feel for GK as I predict that he will never hoist the crown.

            But, it's a long war and this is just another campaign.

            One day/someday the Nuggets will overcome.

            I don't want anyone here to think I'm arrogant but winning has it's privileges.

            I do salute the competitiveness of the Nuggets.

            They've always been a scrappy, troublesome bunch.


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            • Profile picture of the author Kurt
              Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

              I hear you Kurt. (see below)

              Denver can score, but can they defend?

              ( this question has plagued the Denver franchise since the days of Issel, Kikki and Alex )

              Denver can not beat Durant & The Thunder if those two are not 100% and playing great.

              I do feel for GK as I predict that he will never hoist the crown.

              But, it's a long war and this is just another campaign.

              One day/someday the Nuggets will overcome.

              I don't want anyone here to think I'm arrogant but winning has it's privileges.

              I do salute the competitiveness of the Nuggets.

              They've always been a scrappy, troublesome bunch.


              TL
              The Nuggets have been a very good defensive team since the trade.

              And I don't buy the Nuggets can't beat the Thunder. The Nuggets were up by 1 with a little over 2 minutes to go, when the refs blew an offensive goal tending call, giving the Thunder the go-ahead basket. This is a game where the Nuggets shot 22 0f 33 free throws.

              While I'm not saying we'll win, I don't accept that you can simply declare the series is over. Plus, it isn't guaranteed the the Lakers will win either. You're not exactly playing great the last 2-3 weeks, with a loss to the Nuggets starting your losing streak.

              >I don't want anyone here to think I'm arrogant but winning has it's privileges.

              What has OC won again?
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              • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
                Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                The Nuggets have been a very good defensive team since the trade.

                And I don't buy the Nuggets can't beat the Thunder. The Nuggets were up by 1 with a little over 2 minutes to go, when the refs blew an offensive goal tending call, giving the Thunder the go-ahead basket. This is a game where the Nuggets shot 22 0f 33 free throws.

                While I'm not saying we'll win, I don't accept that you can simply declare the series is over. Plus, it isn't guaranteed the the Lakers will win either. You're not exactly playing great the last 2-3 weeks, with a loss to the Nuggets starting your losing streak.

                >I don't want anyone here to think I'm arrogant but winning has it's privileges.

                What has OC won again?
                Kurt, how on earth could I be referring to OC when I said that winning has it's privileges?

                They are a bunch of unproven upstarts just like the rest of the power centers in the provinces.

                To speak ill of the king ( the Lakers ) is an treasonable offense and I think you know what the penalty is.

                Because your team has been one of our most loyal subjects we will have mercy and understanding of your intemperance.

                I have tasted the maggots in the minds of the universe and I was not offended, for I knew I had to rise above it all or drown in my own _______.

                I hope you do beat OC as it will make our path to another crown easier.

                All The Best!!

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                • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
                  Can the Lakers stop Chris Paul? Who do they have who can cover him? Fisher? Kobe? Artest? Nope. All too old and slow. They can only hope he and the Hornets have an off night.
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                  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
                    Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                    Can the Lakers stop Chris Paul? Who do they have who can cover him? Fisher? Kobe? Artest? Nope. All too old and slow. They can only hope he and the Hornets have an off night.

                    Tim, you just gave me a very hearty laugh - thanks!!

                    This situation reminds me of a couple of series with the Spurs.

                    Tony Parker goes off in the first game of the series and then we find a solution for the troublemaker.

                    I suspect, Mr. Paul will be ruffed up tonight and/or he will be forced to hit jumpers but that penetration will be stopped enough for us to get a win.

                    I also suspect, that Gasol will be more involved with the offense and also Bynum will get a lot more touches down low.

                    We're a bit too tall for them and we're going to take advantage of that.

                    Lakers 105 Hornets 92


                    All The Best!!

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  • Profile picture of the author John Alves
    Finals: Lakers vs Heat

    Lakers win.

    I want the Knicks to win because I am a Knicks fan, but they aren't good enough.
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  • Profile picture of the author wilfredoc11
    I'm a fan of nuggets ever since. So I hope nuggets will win this 2011 playoffs.
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    Da Bulls - for the win.
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    3 peat it! Kobe is on a mission again.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    The battles resume tonight!
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  • Profile picture of the author Harley101
    Thunder Season tickets holder here, so lets go Thunder!
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    People outside the Chicago area don't realize how good the Bulls are. They're about to find out.

    I remember how full of hope you were during last seasons playoff regarding the future prospects of the Bulls.

    The Bulls have their own trio of top 60 players in Boozer, Deng and Mr. Rose.

    I predict your Bulls won't get out of the east this year but next year they will be an even bigger problem for the teams of the eastern conference.

    Enjoy the ride while it lasts my friend and remember, it's a long war and your 6 NBA championships and domination of the 1990's rate a serious honorable mention in the annuls of NBA lore.

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    • Profile picture of the author The Niche Man
      Oklahoma Thunder will shock the world!
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      • Profile picture of the author TrumpiaTim
        Nice to see this thread alive and kicking!

        I don't see the Thunder getting past the Spurs in round 2, and I think the Bulls have a legitimate chance at getting to the NBA Finals.
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

      No, you disremember that I told you that the Bulls would do very, very well at the beginning of this season. They are the top seed in the NBA for good reason. They have beaten all comers. I see no reason for them not to continue.

      If the Bulls were a New York team, the press would be going nuts over them.

      Derrick Rose is already the best player in the NBA, and he's just getting started. The Bulls have the deepest bench, a cadre of talented young players, and a canny coach.

      Miami lacks the depth to beat them. The Celtics have lost a step. Orlando, too, lacks the depth.

      I worry more about teams like Indiana and Atlanta.

      I hope to see Oklahoma come out of the west. That would be the beginning of a new generation of basketball.


      How dare you insinuate that I will tolerate such a diabolical kaleidoscope of insults???

      I have therefore changed by prediction concerning the Bulls.

      We now want the men in green or red. ( we have a score to settle with both )

      Thanks to your insolence, we have issued a new decree.

      Although he danced to the rhythm of the flashlight, Sir Nose remained devoid of funk.

      Now aligned with the bump-noxious RumpOfSteelSkin,

      ...this dull duo (The green & The red) from the "Zone Of Zero Funkativity" once again attempts to syndronize the planet,...

      ...for in the face of the fury of the funk - they remain cool.

      Seeing so this be, Miken renders to Kobe, this decree.

      Gather the baddest master funkers from throughout the galaxy and do the Underwater Boogie down Bininy road until you get off at the function.

      Hark and mark forward.

      Be ye aware of the motor booty.

      ( in other words - that's your ass dude )

      You have earned the wrath of the Laker nation and we look forward to your day at court.


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  • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
    I think they will make it to the finals at least. If they play Miami, I think that will be a great series.

    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    People outside the Chicago area don't realize how good the Bulls are. They're about to find out.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Congrats to Lamar Odom for winning the NBA Six Man Of The Year Award this season.


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  • Profile picture of the author sryan
    I'm pulling for the Celtics. I just hope they can dig deep like they have in the past. That being said the Bulls look really good and as a previous poster said, I think they will only get stronger next year.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Last night we soundly defeated the Hornets 87-78 without Kobe and Gasol having decent games.

    Kobe had only 11 points on 3 of 10 from the field and Pau - only 8 points on 2 of 10 from the field.

    That's a combined 5 of 20 for only 19 points from our two superstars.

    We don't need those two to have a great game in order to beat the Hornets.

    But...

    It was a must win game for us and we came through with flying colors. ( purple, the color of royalty and gold )

    They never got closer than 7 points after halftime.

    As I predicted...

    ... we got a lot rougher with Mr. Paul as he was not a major problem except for a couple of end of quarter 3 pointers of which we gladly dared him to hit - and he did.

    Kobe guarded Mr. Paul most of the evening and effectively shut him down by...

    1: laying off of him: ( stopping his penetration )

    2: Not switching & also trapping him:

    ( so that Mr. Paul wouldn't continue to make a monkey out of any big man trying to guard him- one on one because of the pick and roll switch)

    3: Getting physical: ( to wear him down )

    Mr. Paul also played for 43 of the 48 minutes and often complained about elbows to the hit area.


    Odum, Artest and Bynum picked up the slack with 16, 15 and 17 points respectively.

    The Laker bench of Odum, Barnes, Brown & Blake played well as the Lakers gained 10 points on average when any of these players were on the court.

    Odum received his 6 man of the year award before the game.



    We're looking forward to getting rid of the hornets in 6 games at the most but 5 games would be better.

    We need all the rest we can get to continue to defend the kingdom from the conspirators who lust after our crown.

    TL

    Note: All stats from NBA.com
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      TL, the Lakers didn't "soundly defeat" New Orleans. LOL. NO is not a strong or deep team and the Lakers, in a must win game, never put them away until the final few minutes. This Laker team is not playing like a Championship team.

      By the way, it's Odom, not Odum. :-)
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      • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        TL, the Lakers didn't "soundly defeat" New Orleans. LOL. NO is not a strong or deep team and the Lakers, in a must win game, never put them away until the final few minutes. This Laker team is not playing like a Championship team.

        By the way, it's Odom, not Odum. :-)
        The hornets may have gotten as close as 6 points in the 2nd half and the lead was up to at least 13 - maybe 15 and stayed around 10 points for most of the 2nd half.

        After the beginning of the 2nd half, I never felt threatened.

        But...

        I agree that we are not playing championship ball right now.

        We're in a late season slump and we're going to play our way out of it.

        Luckily we're playing the Hornets who we can beat without being at our best.

        We will be ready by the 2nd round to do whatever it takes to defend.

        All The Best!!

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        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        TL, the Lakers didn't "soundly defeat" New Orleans. LOL. NO is not a strong or deep team and the Lakers, in a must win game, never put them away until the final few minutes. This Laker team is not playing like a Championship team.

        By the way, it's Odom, not Odum. :-)
        Who cares!!

        F Odom! ( however you want to spell it )
        F Kobe!
        F Gasol!

        and most importantly...

        F Phil Jackson!!!

        GO BULLS!

        I would even rather see Tim Duncan and the Spurs take it again rather than the Lakers... BOOOOO!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sunfyre7896
    All of the top 4 seeds are going to win the first round. Some of the teams have made it a close series so far, but the top 4 teams are all better than their lower seeded counterparts. . . After that I see Miami and Chicago in the Eastern Finals and L.A. against OKC. Yes, I just called an upset. For the NBA Finals, I'm going to call L.A. vs. Chicago. This matchup intrigues me and I can't wait to see MVP vs. former MVP squaring up for the title. I think L.A. wins this one in 6 or most likely 7 due to experience only. . . As for Miami, they may have 3 superstars, but they don't have a deep bench, can't figure out who is taking the last shot, and don't play as well together as some might think will all of those egos on a team. Denver before the trade and now N.Y. are finding that out. You have to have good chemistry, a good bench, and play some D. Something that all of those teams lack.
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    Good win Lakers!
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  • Profile picture of the author EconomicalDomains
    I was hoping that the Pacers could of at least won 1 game. The Bulls were looking good though, I think they have a good chance.
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  • Profile picture of the author macgfx
    my bet goes for Lakers.. again. haha!
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    I didn't see much of the last night's game due to watching the movie Batman & Robin with the kid so I can't give an opinion as to why we lost to them again.

    Once again Mr. Paul had a very good game and it seems that as he goes so go the Hornets.

    We are now tied at 2 games apiece and we need to get rid of them ASAP.

    The winner of game 5 normal wins most 7 game series and that will be on Tuesday night.

    The only other surprise for me during this years' playoff season is how Atlanta has a 3-1 game lead over the Magic.

    You may now break out the Lakerhateraide.

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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      You missed a good game TL. Paul was amazing. Kobe had an off night with his first scoreless half in the playoffs since 2004. Then he hurt his foot late in the game. Here's a good article on the game. Note the story about the youtube video about some buffalo that as a group attacked some lions to save a calf that inspired the Hornets.

      Lakers must slow down Paul, swarm of Hornets

      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      I didn't see much of the last night's game due to watching the movie Batman & Robin with the kid so I can't give an opinion as to why we lost to them again.

      Once again Mr. Paul had a very good game and it seems that as he goes so go the Hornets.

      We are now tied at 2 games apiece and we need to get rid of them ASAP.

      The winner of game 5 normal wins most 7 game series and that will be on Tuesday night.

      The only other surprise for me during this years' playoff season is how Atlanta has a 3-1 game lead over the Magic.

      You may now break out the Lakerhateraide.

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  • Profile picture of the author drewsg
    Memphis having a 2-1 lead over the Spurs is the biggest surprise. What I thought would be the most boring series in the playoffs has turned out pretty interesting and I can't wait for game 4 tonight, should be pretty good.. If the Grizzles play well tonight, I think they *can* take the series since the Spurs seem to have no answers for the size of Gasol and Randolph in the middle.

    The entire playoffs has been interesting. I've watched more basketball in the past 2-3 weeks than I have in the last 5 years or so
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  • Profile picture of the author TrumpiaTim
    Memphis to knock out Spurs? Impressive!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by TrumpiaTim View Post

      Memphis to knock out Spurs? Impressive!!!


      I never believed in the Spurs but I thought they would at least get by the Grizzlies.


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      • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
        I am pretty surprised by Memphis. They have a good solid team with a front court that is impressive. They seem to play good defense also. This will be only the second time in history a #8 has beaten a #1. The 1st was my Warriors a few years ago when they upset Dallas.

        Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

        I never believed in the Spurs but I thought they would at least get by the Grizzlies.


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  • Profile picture of the author pamellad2711
    I don't like lakers in the first place, they've been a champions for a long time and I guess it's time to give it to the others. Sorry for that.
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by pamellad2711 View Post

      I don't like lakers in the first place, they've been a champions for a long time and I guess it's time to give it to the others. Sorry for that.
      You'll truly be sorry for your insolence.


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  • Profile picture of the author H.Miller
    I'm a Celtic fan so lets go Celtics. Get 18!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    After being down by 9 in 1st period, Lakers pull away in 2nd half and pound Hornets 106-90.

    Lakers doubled the Hornets on points in the paint and 2nd chance points.

    Kobe had 2 monsterous posterizing dunks to spark the Lakers.

    The Lakers bench outscored the Hornets' 29-14.

    No Laker had more than 19 points and six were in double figures.

    Hornets were shutdown in 2nd half as they scored only about 33 points in the half with 2 minutes to go and the game was already decided.

    When winning Game 5, the Lakers are 22-4 all-time as they hope to close out the series Thursday at New Orleans.


    Game 6 is Thursday in New Orleans.


    NOTES: Before the game, Artest received the J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award, recognizing his tireless year of mental health advocacy.


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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post


      The Lakers bench outscored the Hornets' 29-14.
      Yeah, this Hornet team isn't deep at all and if you have Belinelli starting that shows how weak the team really is. Heck, Belinelli had trouble getting minutes for the Warriors. The Hornets have one great player and a few other decent players and yet the Lakers are struggling to win this series.
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      • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Yeah, this Hornet team isn't deep at all and if you have Belinelli starting that shows how weak the team really is. Heck, Belinelli had trouble getting minutes for the Warriors. The Hornets have one great player and a few other decent players and yet the Lakers are struggling to win this series.
        I agree.

        The Lakers are going to have to play a lot better when we beat either Dallas or Portland in the next round.

        Then...

        It looks like OKC has a clear path to the conference finals ( since San Antonio will be eliminated )...

        ...where it will probaley take all 7 games to get rid of them also on our way to the NBA finals and finally tying the Celtics for the most NBA titles.

        Here are the brackets.

        PLAYOFFS 2011 Playoffs at a Glance | NBA.COM


        All The Best!!


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        • Profile picture of the author JimmyKellogg
          Nice Thread I go for Bulls And Mavs..goodluck NBA 2011 championship..:p
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        • Profile picture of the author music4life
          I'd like to see the Bulls win it all! However, they are down 3-1 in the series, it's going to be hard for them to dig out of the hole.
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  • Profile picture of the author xtinedayle72
    I'm a fan of spurs!even if they will not be winning spurs is still the champion for me.
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      Originally Posted by xtinedayle72 View Post

      I'm a fan of spurs!even if they will not be winning spurs is still the champion for me.
      I'm also a big fan of SPURS, for me also they are the champions and the MVP is Manu Ginobili.
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    I think Lakers or Boston will win.
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  • Profile picture of the author cheesee
    MIAMI HEAT all the way! King James and D Wade are unstopable! Bosh is good too
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  • Profile picture of the author TrumpiaTim
    Lakers facing the Mavs in Round 2!
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Lakers dust off scrappy Hornets 98-80.

    25-26 from free throw line.

    Hornets averaged only 40 points per half in the last 3 halfs played.

    Phase 1 complete.

    Dallas starting on Monday night.

    The series may go 7, but Lakers will move on to phase 3 - western conference finals.

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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    San Antone has been removed from the list of powers.

    It may be the end of an era.

    Memphis moves on to face Mr. Durant and the Thunder in the Western conference semi-finals.

    Left Standing:

    Eastern Conference:

    Miami vs. Boston

    &

    Atlanta vs. Chicago


    Western Conference:

    Dallas vs. Los Angeles

    &

    Memphis vs. Oklahoma City


    There can only be one!


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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Woityra
    Come on everyone....Miami Heat all the way!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Only 8 teams remain.

    Lakers give up first game in this series also 96-94.

    We lead by at least 16 in middle of 3rd period.

    We can not continue to temp fate or the crown will be lost.

    I believe this series will go at least 6 games.

    Chicago loses 1st game vs. Atlanta also.

    Atlanta could be a real problem for them.

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  • Profile picture of the author TrumpiaTim
    I can't remember the last time I've been this upset with the Lakers! Up by 16 points in the 3rd quarter and they blow the lead... ugh.
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by TrumpiaTim View Post

      I can't remember the last time I've been this upset with the Lakers! Up by 16 points in the 3rd quarter and they blow the lead... ugh.
      We got away from going inside and instead got into a jump shooting/fastbreak game with them and it cost us.

      Phil should have stopped it but he never calls time outs.

      All this means is that we'll have to go 7 games with them but don't be surprised if it only goes 6.


      All The Best!!

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      • Profile picture of the author joebel
        I'm really upset that the SPURS lost in the First Round. I think the LAKERS and HEAT will face in the Finals. Also think it will go down the wire.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jerome15
    i like bulls to win the finals, congrats to derrick rose for winning the mvp awards
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      I wonder if the Mavs will play the Thunder or Grizzlies?
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      • Profile picture of the author joebel
        Oh Lakers lost from Mavericks, they down 0-2. Is this the end of the Lakers championship streak? NBA playoffs this year is very unpredictable, no one knows who will be the champions. The most surprised me is the MEMPHIS they defeated Spurs then they win game 1 against the Thunders.
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      • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        I wonder if the Mavs will play the Thunder or Grizzlies?

        The Laker bench goes 6 for 23 from the field in 2nd game loss.

        Going 2 of 20 from downtown and going 10 of 20 from the free throw line did not help our cause.

        The Cuban is happier than a punk in boys town and the German continues to be a thorn in our side but...


        Although the kingdom is in serious, serious trouble, and the upstarts - the Mavs defeated us twice on our home court we shall return the favor in the next two games in Dallas.

        We're surrounded on all sides and outnumbered but that's just the way we like it.

        This will be the most glorious Laker NBA championship season in our wonderful and illustrious history.


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          • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
            Hardy-har-har.

            Very funny Tim, I knew I could count on you.

            The Laker season may be decided tonight.

            I'm going to have to pull out all the stops tonight

            If we go down 3-0 then I will throw in the towel.

            Scratch that!!

            Until they get 4 victories - we are the champions and Laker hope springs eternal.

            All The Best!!

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            • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
              haha. You know, if it wasn't the Mavs I would agree with Charles Barkley and say the Lakers are dead, but the Mavs are famous for choking. Remember the Finals against the Heat? These Mavs seem to be different though. They are very deep. Should be a good game.
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              • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
                Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                haha. You know, if it wasn't the Mavs I would agree with Charles Barkley and say the Lakers are dead, but the Mavs are famous for choking. Remember the Finals against the Heat? These Mavs seem to be different though. They are very deep. Should be a good game.
                I remember that series.

                They lead 2-0 but the two wins were on their own home court.

                I didn't think that was much of a choke job since the 2 wins were on their home court.

                But they lost 4 in a row much the same as the 76'ers did to Portland in 1977. ( I think )

                This situation is a lot different but I hope they choke!!!


                All The Best!!

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                • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
                  The Mavs won the first two games and then had a 13 point lead with only six minutes left in the game. They then started the choking. Dirk had a chance to tie the game at the end and missed one of two free throws. Remember also the Mavs were the first #1 seed to lose to an 8th seed team, The Warriors, four years ago.

                  Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

                  I remember that series.

                  They lead 2-0 but the two wins were on their own home court.

                  I didn't think that was much of a choke job since the 2 wins were on their home court.

                  But they lost 4 in a row much the same as the 76'ers did to Portland in 1977. ( I think )

                  This situation is a lot different but I hope they choke!!!


                  All The Best!!

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        • Profile picture of the author Sunfyre7896
          Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

          Although the kingdom is in serious, serious trouble, and the upstarts - the Mavs defeated us twice on our home court we shall return the favor in the next two games in Dallas.

          This will be the most glorious Laker NBA championship season in our wonderful and illustrious history.


          TL
          I respect your confidence but I have to honestly disagree. There's nothing to say that the Mavs will just lie down and give the Lakers the next 2 games at home. The Mavs have a deeper bench, the Lakers can't defend Dirk, Barea is too fast for your guards, and Chandler is doing what he wants inside. I will grant that the Lakers have a better coach in Jackson and the better player in Kobe, but the Mavs are more solid top to bottom so it will be a hard fought next two games. I see L.A. winning either games 3 or 4 but not both games. I predict Dallas in 6.
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  • Profile picture of the author siwelso
    I'm watching the The Heat against the Celtics, KG verses Lebron, and i gotta say, Miami are up 43 against Celtics 38. Dwayne is unstoppable. I'm thinking the Heat could take the Celtics down.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    The Heat will come out of the east.


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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    It may be time to turn out the lights for my Lakers but I can not give up hope until we have been completely defeated.

    Yes, even though it's like they scored 5 touchdowns in the 2nd quarter and the game is over at halftime or they have scored 10 runs in the top of the 9th to go up by 10 runs, all hope is not lost as long as we have breath in our bodies.

    Once again, this will be the most glorious championship in Laker, scratch that, in NBA history.


    Laker Fan #1 out.
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    No team has ever done it. But if there's ever going to be a first, I'd have to say that it could be done by a Phil Jackson team. It would definitely make for some great basketball that's for sure.

    Plus if there's ever a team that I would want it to happen against, it would be Mark Cuban's team. If for nothing else but to watch that big baby cry.
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      Go Bulls It has been awhile
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    Wow... I take back what I said. After watching 2 flagrant fouls in a row, I'd just throw in the towel if I were Phil jackson. What an embarrassment some of these idiot players are.
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  • Profile picture of the author TrumpiaTim
    Pathetic way to go out Lakers! I'm still a fan, but I thought we had a bit more fight and class, I'm very disappointed in the way we went out.

    In any case, I'm rooting for the Bulls to win it all now, DRose is such a workhorse, and I love his humble yet hungry attitude.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    I was going to give TL some "stuff" for the Lakers losing, but as a fellow sports fan, I think he's being punished enough.

    That wasn't good...
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Well, the other three series are turning out to be interesting. If Boston wins the next one at home the pressure will be on Miami. By the way, that performance by Rondo Saturday was amazing and inspiring. I have a gained a lot of respect for him and Boston. They have a lot of heart.

      Two big underdogs, The Hawks and Memphis are surprising many.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    It is with profound sadness and deep regret that I announce to the world that:

    1: The barbarians (non Laker fans) have smashed through the gates, there will be a "new" NBA champion this season and we are forced to relinquish the crown.

    2: I am ashamed of the performace of my Lakers this playoff season.

    BTW...

    This is also the 2nd mother's day massacre we have suffered in our storied history.

    3: I make no apologies for my haughtiness & arrogance in earlier posts to this thread - after all, champions have rights & privileges that commoners do not.

    4: Congratulations to the Mavericks of Dallas as they have served us royally.

    5: You have not seen the last of us and we shall return to power soon.

    Laker Fan #1 TL
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      It is with profound sadness and deep regret that I announce to the world that:

      1: The barbarians (non Laker fans) have smashed through the gates, there will be a "new" NBA champion this season and we are forced to relinquish the crown.

      2: I am ashamed of the performace of my Lakers this playoff season.

      BTW...

      This is also the 2nd mother's day massacre we have suffered in our storied history.

      3: I make no apologies for my haughtiness & arrogance in earlier posts to this thread - after all, champions have rights & privileges that commoners do not.

      4: Congratulations to the Mavericks of Dallas as they have served us royally.

      5: You have not seen the last of us and we shall return to power soon.

      Laker Fan #1 TL
      But without Phil Jackson though. Who will be the next Lakers head coach? L.A. Times:
      Names being mentioned include Brian Shaw, Rick Adelman, Byron Scott, Doc Rivers and others.


      And do you think Jackson will coach somewhere again in the future?

      Mike
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      • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
        Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

        But without Phil Jackson though. Who will be the next Lakers head coach? L.A. Times:
        Names being mentioned include Brian Shaw, Rick Adelman, Byron Scott, Doc Rivers and others.


        And do you think Jackson will coach somewhere again in the future?

        Mike
        Brian Shaw is rumored to be the next head coach for the Lakers.

        I'm not sure if Bryon Scott is available.

        Doc Rivers is with the men in green.

        Don't bother with Rick Adelman for he is a cave man coach and not good with adjustments and x's and o's.

        Phil will not coach again.

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        • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
          Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

          Brian Shaw is rumored to be the next head coach for the Lakers.

          I'm not sure if Bryon Scott is available.

          Doc Rivers is with the men in green.

          Don't bother with Rick Adelman for he is a cave man coach and not good with adjustments and x's and o's.

          Phil will not coach again.

          TL
          LOL - it's already begun on the NY sports radio shows... the talking heads already speculating whether the Knicks front office will try to woo him (not next season - lockout looming...) and whether Phil will get the itch after a year off.

          Should be entertaining.

          Oh - and never say never.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sunfyre7896
    I'm hoping to play OKC in the Conf. Finals as they are the less deep team of the two. I want Chicago and Boston to win but I don't think Boston will so I'm pulling for Chicago so that they can take care of the classless Heat. America's team is anyone playing the Heat. I can't wait until they get ousted so I can read and hear all of the ridiculous excuses as to why an all star team didn't win. Go Mavs, Bulls, Celtics, Thunder, and Grizzlies in that order or whoever is playing them. I hate the Heat.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
    The Memphis/OkC three overtime game was terrific. Either one of those two teams will give the Mavs a tougher series than the one they just had. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and pick the winner of this series to beat the Mavs.
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    • Profile picture of the author garyv
      Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

      The Memphis/OkC three overtime game was terrific. Either one of those two teams will give the Mavs a tougher series than the one they just had. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and pick the winner of this series to beat the Mavs.

      I too thoroughly enjoyed that game. But it's hard to pick any team over the Mavs after the way they so handily dismantled the Lakers. However, I am predicting that the Bulls will regroup, Rose's MVP head will deflate, and they'll dominate from here on out. Including making Mark Cuban throw several tantrums, thus making everyone forget about the Laker's shenanigans.
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

      The Memphis/OkC three overtime game was terrific. Either one of those two teams will give the Mavs a tougher series than the one they just had. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and pick the winner of this series to beat the Mavs.
      It was a fantastic game!


      The team that knocked the Lakers out of the playoffs will go to the NBA finals.

      My pick for the finals is Dallas verses Miami.



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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    I wonder where LA will trade Bynum? I'm hoping Minnesota.
    Paul Gasol will be traded before Bynum gets traded IMHO.

    Look out for another Laker blockbuster deal involving either Dwight Howard, Chris Paul or some other highly coveted free agent.

    D. Fisher needs to retire and Steve Blake was not a lot of help so we need someone else to start at point guard.

    Your Bulls will not get out of the eastern conference this year - maybe next year.

    Miami will once again play Dallas in the NBA Finals.

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    Go Lakers! Lakers for the win!
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    Originally Posted by TrumpiaTim View Post

    Hey all,

    Didn't see a post on this subject yet, but playoffs just started yesterday and it's already off to a fun and unpredictable start!

    Lifelong Lakers fan, and I don't see any team getting in their way of a 3peat unless we face the Celtics in the Finals where it could go either way.

    Who are you rooting for and who do you think will win it all this year?
    Well, BYE BYE Lakers.

    The only team who will take the championship is the HEAT.

    I want them to win but don't forget that I am a BIG raptors fan since I live here in Toronto.

    Even though Chris Bosh left T.O to join the HEAT, I want him and his team to win and take it all. Chris deserves it.

    Tal
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  • Profile picture of the author MissLauraCatella
    How about the Celtics' chances of coming back from this slump against the Heat....


    I know it's a slim chance especially with my MAN Rondo hurt, but I want them to go to the ship so badly.

    Celtics!!! The quintessential team! Damnit!
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  • Profile picture of the author tsuccess
    How about those Lakers? Oh it's too late for them...Lol.

    Poor Kobe, Ha Ha! Ok Ok, I won't rub it in anymore.

    I just want either Dallas or Miami to win.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Niche Man
      Wow!... I was watching a fight and a basketball game broke out!

      Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom should personally apologize to the following ..

      Jerry West
      Elgin Baylor
      Gail Goodrich
      Magic Johnson
      Kareem Abdul Jabbar
      James Worthy
      Shaq Oneal
      Kobe Bryant
      and Others ... including Laker Fans For the embarrassment and smudge they put on the Laker Legacy they helped to create and build.
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        Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

        Wow!... I was watching a fight and a basketball game broke out!

        Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom should personally apologize to the following ..

        Jerry West
        Elgin Baylor
        Gail Goodrich
        Magic Johnson
        Kareem Abdul Jabbar
        James Worthy
        Shaq Oneal
        Kobe Bryant
        and Others ... including Laker Fans For the embarrassment and smudge they put on the Laker Legacy they helped to create and build.
        Did you hear Magic and Worthy's comments? They aren't even mad, it's past that, they're sad and hurt.

        I'm so glad the Lakers were too stupid to trade Bynum to my Nuggets for Carmelo. That's the best trade we never made!
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      • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
        Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

        Wow!... I was watching a fight and a basketball game broke out!

        Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom should personally apologize to the following ..

        Jerry West
        Elgin Baylor
        Gail Goodrich
        Magic Johnson
        Kareem Abdul Jabbar
        James Worthy
        Shaq Oneal
        Kobe Bryant
        and Others ... including Laker Fans For the embarrassment and smudge they put on the Laker Legacy they helped to create and build.
        You forgot the first great Laker - Mr. Miken.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Robert Tractor Traylor was found dead in his apartment in Puerto Rico today at the age of 34. That's too young.

    RIP
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    • Profile picture of the author jeffrey73
      Well, it's good to finally see the Lakers get swept. I never imagined that would happen, even in the slightest. Phil can now retire as the best coach ever.

      All Laker fans should be embarrassed for the terrible sportsmanship shown by Artest, Odum, and Bynum. And give props to Kobe for taking his losses in stride, and being the most respectable player on the team.

      As far as who wins, the HEAT should sow this one up pretty easily. I think Lebron will get his first ring in Miami, although the competition is still stiff.
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      • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
        Originally Posted by jeffrey73 View Post

        Well, it's good to finally see the Lakers get swept. I never imagined that would happen, even in the slightest. Phil can now retire as the best coach ever.

        All Laker fans should be embarrassed for the terrible sportsmanship shown by Artest, Odum, and Bynum. And give props to Kobe for taking his losses in stride, and being the most respectable player on the team.

        As far as who wins, the HEAT should sow this one up pretty easily. I think Lebron will get his first ring in Miami, although the competition is still stiff.
        Being from the Valley Of The Sun, I truly understand your glee at the Lakers being removed from the list of powers for this season.

        Therefore...

        For the crimes of what you wrote above...

        You have revealed yourself (like in the movie, Beneath The Planet Of The Apes) ...

        ...as an enemy of the realm and from this day forth you have been declared an ...

        ...OUTLAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ...

        ... to be hunted till the end of your days, until your carcass is carrion for foxes and crows.

        Laker Fan #1 TL



        Ps. We're on the same page with Miami.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Q
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    Definitely no more ring for Kobe this year, but I hope LeBron and his brats will not also get past to the NBA Finals. They did beat the Celtics 4-1, but East Finals is not going to be easy for them.

    I'm routing for my MVP Derrick Rose and the Bulls to finish the Hawks in 6! And to embarrass the Heat, just like the Mavs did to the Lakers!
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    After LA Lakers loss don't feel like watching NBA Playoffs 2011.
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  • Profile picture of the author ND
    I'm afraid the Heat will take it all. I hate the Heat.
    I am a Knick fan rooting for boston to beat them..it feels weird! LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    No question about it.....

    Heat will beat the Bulls.

    I am not sure if they are going to sweep them but they are going to the finals and I pretty much think that they will go against the Mavs and beat them too.

    GO HEAT even though I am a raptors fan.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      The Heat aren't deep enough to beat the Bulls. I have to agree with Whitlock below.
      We've never seen anything like the pairing of James and Wade. It's better than Jordan and Pippen.

      We've also never seen anything like James, Wade and Bo's supporting cast. Mario Chalmers, Mike Bibby, Joel Anthony, Juwan Howard, James Jones, Eddie House, Mike Miller, Zydrunas Ilgauskas and coach Erik Spoelstra might be a nine seed in the NCAA tournament.

      Remember when the New York Jets beat the New England Patriots to advance to the AFC Championship Game? Remember LaDainian Tomlinson crying and the Jets celebrating like they'd just won the Lombardi Trophy?

      That's how the Heat looked after finishing Boston. They turned the Boston series into a personal NBA Finals. They spent too much emotional capital on getting past a broken team. You can go to that emotional well only so many times.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sunfyre7896
    For all of you rooting for the Heat that aren't a Heat fan or from Florida are ridiculous. I'm guessing band wagoners? Yes? . . . I don't see how anyone that wasn't already a Heat fan or from Florida could possibly root for a team without much class. Anytime you have to have a one hour tv show to announce how you screwed over your team that you said you loved and a whole city to go play on an all star team just demonstrates how arrogant, classless, and despicable you really are. I can't wait to see them get beat. I might go run down the street, fist in the air in celebration. I'm just glad that most people see that and his "legacy" is forever tarnished. He'll never be a Jordan, a Kobe, or possibly a D. Rose the way he's going. He'll just be a talented player that couldn't do it without the help of 2 other superstars. Good job bro. . . As Jordan once said. I could've tried to get on a team with Bird and Magic, but hell no, I don't want to play with those guys. To be the best you have to beat the best and I want to beat them.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by Sunfyre7896 View Post

      For all of you rooting for the Heat that aren't a Heat fan or from Florida are ridiculous. I'm guessing band wagoners? Yes? . . . I don't see how anyone that wasn't already a Heat fan or from Florida could possibly root for a team without much class. Anytime you have to have a one hour tv show to announce how you screwed over your team that you said you loved and a whole city to go play on an all star team just demonstrates how arrogant, classless, and despicable you really are. I can't wait to see them get beat. I might go run down the street, fist in the air in celebration. I'm just glad that most people see that and his "legacy" is forever tarnished. He'll never be a Jordan, a Kobe, or possibly a D. Rose the way he's going. He'll just be a talented player that couldn't do it without the help of 2 other superstars. Good job bro. . . As Jordan once said. I could've tried to get on a team with Bird and Magic, but hell no, I don't want to play with those guys. To be the best you have to beat the best and I want to beat them.

      Ironic, since Jordan never beat Bird and the only time he beat Magic was after Magic got HIV, retired for a short time, then tried to make a comeback....Jordan won ZERO titles when Bird or a healthy Magic were in the NBA.
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      • Profile picture of the author garyv
        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        Ironic, since Jordan never beat Bird and the only time he beat Magic was after Magic got HIV, retired for a short time, then tried to make a comeback....Jordan won ZERO titles when Bird or a healthy Magic were in the NBA.

        Actually Bird Retired in 92 at the end of the season when Jordan had won his 2nd NBA Title.
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          • Profile picture of the author Sunfyre7896
            Originally Posted by jeffrey73 View Post

            Sunfyre should enjoy this:

            NBA Rankings: The Top 10 Most Overrated Stars in NBA History | Bleacher Report[/url]
            That was very awesome, thank you, I needed that. Now I feel better someone else thinks the same way I do. I'm not doubting that LeBron is good but he's no Jordan or Kobe. I like how Melo and Amare are 2 and 3 and are on a team and couldn't make it out of the first round. . . I think the most overrated on that list might have to be Big Shot Bob. What's he got like 8 rings? He has to be the luckiest guy ever as far as rings are concerned. He got 3 in L.A. on the coattails of Kobe and Shaq, then 2 in Houston on that dreamish type team, and then 3 in San Antonio all the while only coming in for like 20 minutes a game and making some 3 pointers. Definitely not Hall worthy.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kurt
          Originally Posted by garyv View Post

          Actually Bird Retired in 92 at the end of the season when Jordan had won his 2nd NBA Title.

          Technically you are correct, however: (Wikipedia)

          Bird's body, however, continued to break down. He had been bothered by back problems for years, and his back became progressively worse. After leading the Celtics to a 29-5 start to the 1990-91 season, he missed 22 games due to a compressed nerve root in his back, a condition that would eventually lead to his retirement. He had off-season surgery to remove a disc from his back, but his back problems continued and he missed 37 games during the 1991-92 season. During the 1992 Eastern Conference semi-finals against the Cleveland Cavaliers Bird missed 4 of 7 games in the series due to his back problems.
          Jordan never won a championship with either a healthy Magic or Bird in the NBA in 7 seasons. He basically had to wait until Magic and Bird got old and broken before winning it all.
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          • Profile picture of the author garyv
            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

            Technically you are correct, however: (Wikipedia)



            Jordan never won a championship with either a healthy Magic or Bird in the NBA in 7 seasons. He basically had to wait until Magic and Bird got old and broken before winning it all.

            True, and I won't argue with you that Bird was probably the best shooter of all time. I loved watching Jordan, but probably the only other player I liked watching more was Bird. I still love watching re-runs of any games he played in.


            ps - How bout them Bulls? The Heat may be in trouble.
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            • Profile picture of the author Kurt
              Originally Posted by garyv View Post

              True, and I won't argue with you that Bird was probably the best shooter of all time. I loved watching Jordan, but probably the only other player I liked watching more was Bird. I still love watching re-runs of any games he played in.


              ps - How bout them Bulls? The Heat may be in trouble.

              My point really is that Jordan didn't dominate Bird or Magic...

              ...But, IMO the greatest PURE shooter of all time (wish I could find a better video):


              And the Bulls looked great, hope they beat the Heat.
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    Miami Heats!
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    I think the Bulls have this one. After all The Heat have yet to beat the Bulls this year.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jerome15
    for eastern finals, i like either of Bulls and Miami and for West finals i'll root for the Mavs
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    I was really surprised at Miami for not coming out as strong as they should.

    Bench players have to score more.

    Plus, Miami's Dfence has to improve a whole lot better because it was not that good. If they don't, Bulls will take it and sweep them very fast.

    James has to also step it up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    I didn't watch the entire game and was switching back and forth...But how about Dirk?

    The guy has 15 shots and scores 48 points and didn't make a single 3 pointer. Unbelievable!
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    • Profile picture of the author jeffrey73
      Yes, he is un-real. It's hard to see OKC even taking more than 1 game in this series. They will definitely NOT win in 6. I'd say they have a much better chance of losing in 5 or 6, as much as I hope I'm wrong.

      2-1/2 men need to step it up. If they play the same way throughout this series, they will get stomped!

      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      I didn't watch the entire game and was switching back and forth...But how about Dirk?

      The guy has 15 shots and scores 48 points and didn't make a single 3 pointer. Unbelievable!
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      I didn't watch the entire game and was switching back and forth...But how about Dirk?

      The guy has 15 shots and scores 48 points and didn't make a single 3 pointer. Unbelievable!

      Dirk was fantastic!

      He said his secret is his shot selection and since his jumper is so deadly, he can also go to the bucket easier and get fouled a lot in the process.

      He set a new NBA playoff record by going 24 for 24 from the free throw line last night.

      OKC must play better defense cause Dallas is hot and full of confidence at beating the defending NBA champs.

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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Dirk couldn't miss. The Thunder need to change their game plan against him. Maybe double team him more. Plus, Westbrook had a bad game: 3-15 with only 3 assists!? Terrible. The Thunder can definitely win the series, but Westbrook has to play better. Durant and the others did their part.

      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      I didn't watch the entire game and was switching back and forth...But how about Dirk?

      The guy has 15 shots and scores 48 points and didn't make a single 3 pointer. Unbelievable!
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Comment on Bulls withheld until Bulls Fan #1 gives an update.

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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      I don't know about Bulls Fan #1 TL, but I think the Bulls blew a chance to go up 2-0. Terrible shooting. It wasn't because of great defense by the Heat either. They were missing wide open jump shots and layups. Rose 7-23, Deng 5-15, Boozer 3-10 and Korver 1-7! 3-20 on threes?! 34% overall. Ugly.
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

      Don't know about #1, but the Bulls had a poor shooting night.

      Bulls in 6.

      If I remember correctly, Miami has the #2 or 3 defense in the league and they had a lot to do with the poor shooting night of the Bulls.

      Miami has found the cure for Mr. Rose.

      Simply control his penetration and the rest is history.

      Mr. Haslem is back and will make a tremendous impact on this series equalizing the bench play and if Erick Dampier & Zydrunas Ilgauskas play in this series the task will be easier.

      My original prediction will hold firm of Miami in 6.

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      • Profile picture of the author Sunfyre7896
        Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

        If I remember correctly, Miami has the #2 or 3 defense in the league and they had a lot to do with the poor shooting night of the Bulls.

        Miami has found the cure for Mr. Rose.

        Simply control his penetration and the rest is history.

        Mr. Haslem is back and will make a tremendous impact on this series equalizing the bench play and if Erick Dampier & Zydrunas Ilgauskas play in this series the task will be easier.

        My original prediction will hold firm of Miami in 6.

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        Coming from a long time Mavs fan, you better hope Damp is only in there to pick up fouls as he is the most worthless center Dallas ever had. Well, except for club hands, no coordination Shawn Bradley.
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        • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
          Originally Posted by Sunfyre7896 View Post

          Coming from a long time Mavs fan, you better hope Damp is only in there to pick up fouls as he is the most worthless center Dallas ever had. Well, except for club hands, no coordination Shawn Bradley.
          As a good friend of mine used to say...

          "He has 6 (fouls) to give" and a few rebounds per game to earn.


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      • Profile picture of the author jeffrey73
        Don't count your chickens before they've hatched. This is going to be a battle!

        Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

        Wishful thinking will do you no good. The Bulls wil continue to control the boards and send Two and a Half Men home in 6. Haslem, Dampier and Ilgauskas will only make the disparity more apparent.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by jeffrey73 View Post

      Originally Posted by Sunfyre7896 View Post

      That was very awesome, thank you, I needed that. Now I feel better someone else thinks the same way I do. I'm not doubting that LeBron is good but he's no Jordan or Kobe. I like how Melo and Amare are 2 and 3 and are on a team and couldn't make it out of the first round. . . I think the most overrated on that list might have to be Big Shot Bob. What's he got like 8 rings? He has to be the luckiest guy ever as far as rings are concerned. He got 3 in L.A. on the coattails of Kobe and Shaq, then 2 in Houston on that dreamish type team, and then 3 in San Antonio all the while only coming in for like 20 minutes a game and making some 3 pointers. Definitely not Hall worthy.
      As a Nugget fan, I've watched Melo his whole career. I watched at least parts of 75 Nugget games this year.

      I believe Melo is the most overrated player in the NBA. He "lead" the Nuggets out of the first round of the playoffs just one time...And that was only after Chauncy Billups joined the team.

      I don't think that's a coincidence. On the other hand Chauncy has been to the conference finals at least 7 times (maybe more?).

      Some say Melo is a great offensive player. No he's not, he's a great SCORER. He does nothing to help the other players score.

      He's what I call a "slow scorer". He has possesion of the ball for long periods of time, causing the other 4 players to stand and watch, because they're not involved.

      I'll take Alex English over Melo any day of the week and twice on Sundays. English didn't slow down the offense. His first look was for cutters to the basket. If not, he'd make a decisive move and either shoot or pass quickly. As a matter of fact I remember coach Doug Moe once in a while yelling at English to shoot MORE.

      IMO Melo is more in a class with World B. Free than the all time greats. He can put up numbers but really doesn't help his team win...And he has to have the ball for long periods of time.

      I'm not saying he's a bad player, but I do think he's a "neutral" player and I felt the Nuggets would have about the same record without him as they did with him, as we did throughout his career when he missed games. I was wrong. We had a better record without him.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin AKA Hubcap
        Reminds me of Dominique Wilkins and Vince Carter. Able to score and put butts in the seats but couldn't take their teams deep into the playoffs.

        I like OKC in the West and Miami in the East. I won't be surprised if Miami puts Chicago in a 3-1 hole by winning both games in south florida.

        Teams that really surprised me---the Magic and the Spurs---- in a bad way and Memphis in a good way.


        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        As a Nugget fan, I've watched Melo his whole career. I watched at least parts of 75 Nugget games this year.

        I believe Melo is the most overrated player in the NBA. He "lead" the Nuggets out of the first round of the playoffs just one time...And that was only after Chauncy Billups joined the team.

        I don't think that's a coincidence. On the other hand Chauncy has been to the conference finals at least 7 times (maybe more?).

        Some say Melo is a great offensive player. No he's not, he's a great SCORER. He does nothing to help the other players score.

        He's what I call a "slow scorer". He has possesion of the ball for long periods of time, causing the other 4 players to stand and watch, because they're not involved.

        I'll take Alex English over Melo any day of the week and twice on Sundays. English didn't slow down the offense. His first look was for cutters to the basket. If not, he'd make a decisive move and either shoot or pass quickly. As a matter of fact I remember coach Doug Moe once in a while yelling at English to shoot MORE.

        IMO Melo is more in a class with World B. Free than the all time greats. He can put up numbers but really doesn't help his team win...And he has to have the ball for long periods of time.

        I'm not saying he's a bad player, but I do think he's a "neutral" player and I felt the Nuggets would have about the same record without him as they did with him, as we did throughout his career when he missed games. I was wrong. We had a better record without him.
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    Westbrook will play better and the Thunder win tonight in Dallas.. Lets see what happens..
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    lebron james is the truth
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    Miami all the way!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Hey TL...

    Give Kareem a statue already. Putting a statue of Gretsky in LA before Kareem gets one? C'mon man!
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Hey TL...

      Give Kareem a statue already. Putting a statue of Gretsky in LA before Kareem gets one? C'mon man!


      WTF???

      That's not right!

      I'm thinking about starting a petition.

      I found this article.

      http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...bar.html?cat=9


      Thanks

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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

        WTF???

        That's not right!

        I'm thinking about starting a petition.

        I found this article.

        Hey Lakers! Give Kareem Abdul-Jabbar a Statue - Associated Content from Yahoo! - associatedcontent.com


        Thanks

        TL
        Hey TL...

        Guess you missed it...Yesterday Kareem was all over ESPN talking about it.

        Kareem isn't the most friendly guy, but still, he isn't a bad person, he's just a loner. It's a shame how this has caused some to forget how good he really was.

        IMO, he was the best BBall player of all time. I'd take him over Jordan as the Sky Hook was simply unstoppable. Just feed Kareem down the stretch and the ball is going in the hoop.
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        • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          Hey TL...

          Guess you missed it...Yesterday Kareem was all over ESPN talking about it.

          Kareem isn't the most friendly guy, but still, he isn't a bad person, he's just a loner. It's a shame how this has caused some to forget how good he really was.

          IMO, he was the best BBall player of all time. I'd take him over Jordan as the Sky Hook was simply unstoppable. Just feed Kareem down the stretch and the ball is going in the hoop.

          He was a most awesome offensive weapon.

          The next statue should feature Kareem, Kobe, Shaq and Miken and that should do it for quite some time.

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    Thunder will go all the way!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author KeithAdam
    I just hope a western team wins. As a Boston fan, I can't stand the Heat and not crazy about Chicago either.
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    Miami sweeps Dallas in the finals
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    • Profile picture of the author Sunfyre7896
      Originally Posted by Dubturbo View Post

      Miami SWEEEEEPPPP. The end.
      Originally Posted by pianopro View Post

      Miami sweeps Dallas in the finals
      How you feeling now? I wanted Dallas to win first and foremost because I'm from Fort Worth and have been a Mavs and local Dallas team fan all my life. But secondly for things like this. The hype incarnate dished out by people that thought that Dallas was too soft, would choke, Queen James was the best player in the world and possibly all time, Miami was "the better team," the triumverate would just own, and that it would prove that superstar filled superteams would easily dispatch a complete team.

      Now to reality. Justice was served and I loved LeBum's comments about how we're all going to have to wake up to face the reality that we don't have millions like he does and are not as "loved," and as famous. Whatever bro. My teams a champion with rings (actually Cuban wants to give them something other than rings because that's just too "old school." I love that he's a good owner, spends the dough, and is a fan owner that spares no expense for his fandom, but this is just stupid, asinine, and ridiculous.) and you're still a loser. Way to get with dumba#$ Wade and make fun of Dirk. I loved Kurt's comment by the way of them actually not making fun, but mimicking their choking skills. Who choked now Wade and LeBaby?

      But to end this. Congratulations to my team, to Dirk for solidifying his legacy as did Kidd and possibly Terry and to our fans that were true and finally to Donald Carter, our first owner that's always believed in us. Great job. Great season. Great championship.
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      • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
        Originally Posted by Sunfyre7896 View Post

        How you feeling now? I wanted Dallas to win first and foremost because I'm from Fort Worth and have been a Mavs and local Dallas team fan all my life. But secondly for things like this. The hype incarnate dished out by people that thought that Dallas was too soft, would choke, Queen James was the best player in the world and possibly all time, Miami was "the better team," the triumverate would just own, and that it would prove that superstar filled superteams would easily dispatch a complete team.

        Now to reality. Justice was served and I loved LeBum's comments about how we're all going to have to wake up to face the reality that we don't have millions like he does and are not as "loved," and as famous. Whatever bro. My teams a champion with rings (actually Cuban wants to give them something other than rings because that's just too "old school." I love that he's a good owner, spends the dough, and is a fan owner that spares no expense for his fandom, but this is just stupid, asinine, and ridiculous.) and you're still a loser. Way to get with dumba#$ Wade and make fun of Dirk. I loved Kurt's comment by the way of them actually not making fun, but mimicking their choking skills. Who choked now Wade and LeBaby?

        But to end this. Congratulations to my team, to Dirk for solidifying his legacy as did Kidd and possibly Terry and to our fans that were true and finally to Donald Carter, our first owner that's always believed in us. Great job. Great season. Great championship.
        Congrats on your first Title and welcome to the club.

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    Mavs VS Heat
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Dallas holds on to win game #3, 93-87.

    Dirk & Jason Terry shot a combined 10 for 33 and Dallas still won.

    The team that wins game #3 has won close to 80% of all NBA playoff series.

    Both teams must win this game tonight because big pressure will be on the loser in game #4.

    Nothing's like watching your fav team battle for the championship but it's still great basketball.

    I'm not sure whether I like the NBA or the NFL better.


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    • Profile picture of the author jeffrey73
      Yes, it's quite a hard decision there.

      - #1 Cardinals Fan

      Looks like TL was right on. The Bulls are deep, but Miami has the edge in toughness and in talent. In the west, Dallas easily has this won. I'm very disappointed in OKC.

      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post


      I'm not sure whether I like the NBA or the NFL better.


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      • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
        Originally Posted by jeffrey73 View Post

        Yes, it's quite a hard decision there.

        - #1 Cardinals Fan

        Looks like TL was right on. The Bulls are deep, but Miami has the edge in toughness and in talent. In the west, Dallas easily has this won. I'm very disappointed in OKC.
        It's not over between the Bulls & the Heat just yet but if the Bulls lose tonight I'm ready to declare victory in my mission to help slow down the Chicago drive for more championships.

        Note: I put a curse on them as far as basketball goes but wish them all the best in all other areas of life.


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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Heat use 4th period spurt to finish off Bulls 96-85 and go up 2 games to 1.

    Game 4 will be in Miami and the Bulls must be very careful.

    Bulls averaging only 80 points per game vs. Heat in last 2 games.

    Is it poor shooting or good defense or a combo of both??

    Dallas visits OKC tonight and OKC must win or go down 3 games to 1.

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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Well, turns out the Thunder aren't quite ready yet. They had a slogan "Why not now" that was in response to their inexperience and young age average of their players. I guess that slogan is gone. Westbrook was disappointing throughout the series. His stats weren't bad tonight but to me he wasn't very effective. again. I tell you what. He isn't anywhere near the player that Monta Ellis is. Monta is a true star who should have been on the all star team instead of Westbrook.
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      • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Well, turns out the Thunder aren't quite ready yet. They had a slogan "Why not now" that was in response to their inexperience and young age average of their players. I guess that slogan is gone. Westbrook was disappointing throughout the series. His stats weren't bad tonight but to me he wasn't very effective. again. I tell you what. He isn't anywhere near the player that Monta Ellis is. Monta is a true star who should have been on the all star team instead of Westbrook.
        Westbrook and Durant going 16 of 44 from the field was not helpful in the biggest game of their careers.

        OKC needs a point guard or Westbrook will have to learn to be a better one.

        Also, as soon as Harden fouled out it seemed like the Thunder went to pieces.

        I also agree, Monta should have been on the all star team instead of Westbrook.

        Jason Kidd is savvy and as productive as ever and helped out with 17 points and 3 4 6 from 3 point land and Dirk was Dirk in the 4th period when it mattered the most.

        Dallas is ready but will the eastern conference rep agree???

        TL


        Ps. Durant walked again last night on another of his dunks.
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        • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
          I've seen Westbrook have great games, but in a series he has problems. He wasn't very good throughout the playoffs. I heard someone say Westbrook thinks he's better than Durant. If that's the case he is also delusional.

          Jason Kidd is playing unbelievable for a 38 year old. No. Make that for anyone. I remember when he was younger he couldn't make those threes. Now, it's a big part of his game. Smart, tough player.

          I have no problem with Dallas winning it all. I like all the players and the coach. I'll be rooting for them unless Chicago comes back to beat Miami.

          ps... Kobe was spot traveling last night again also. From the sofa to the fridge watching the game from home. hehe

          Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

          Westbrook and Durant going 16 of 44 from the field was not helpful in the biggest game of their careers.

          OKC needs a point guard or Westbrook will have to learn to be a better one.

          Also, as soon as Harden fouled out it seemed like the Thunder went to pieces.

          I also agree, Monta should have been on the all star team instead of Westbrook.

          Jason Kidd is savvy and as productive as ever and helped out with 17 points and 3 4 6 from 3 point land and Dirk was Dirk in the 4th period when it mattered the most.

          Dallas is ready but will the eastern conference rep agree???

          TL


          Ps. Durant walked again last night on another of his dunks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sunfyre7896
    He always walks once or twice a game, just like he always does the arm swing with the ball to come down on the opposing players arms to draw the foul. I like how they just didn't give him the fouls like he expects and you could see it on his face last night. I like the guy. I'm a UT fan and I hope him the best, just not against my Mavs. . . I would say that was our greatest playoff win except for the game 7 against San Antonio in 2006 and possibly game 6 against Phx the same year ONLY because it got us into the finals but as far as just great victories, the San Antonio game 7 and last night were our best. Dirk proved he can take over a game late and not flop because he's soft as many assert. We need to just get it done on Wednesday and not mess around so we can get some rest. I predict 6 games in the East with the Heat winning games 4 and 6.
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by Sunfyre7896 View Post

      He always walks once or twice a game, just like he always does the arm swing with the ball to come down on the opposing players arms to draw the foul. I like how they just didn't give him the fouls like he expects and you could see it on his face last night. I like the guy. I'm a UT fan and I hope him the best, just not against my Mavs. . . I would say that was our greatest playoff win except for the game 7 against San Antonio in 2006 and possibly game 6 against Phx the same year ONLY because it got us into the finals but as far as just great victories, the San Antonio game 7 and last night were our best. Dirk proved he can take over a game late and not flop because he's soft as many assert. We need to just get it done on Wednesday and not mess around so we can get some rest. I predict 6 games in the East with the Heat winning games 4 and 6.
      I remember how amazed I was that Dallas beat the Spurs in 2006 when Dirk made that fantastic shot.

      Looks like Dallas is going to the NBA finals once again.

      The east has not been settled yet.

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  • Profile picture of the author Sunfyre7896
    I want Dallas because a: they are my team, b: I hate Miami with their Yankee-esque all star team, c: I would like to see all of the band wagon Miami fans whine and hear what forms of excuses they have for both losing to Dallas and why a team with 3 superstars couldn't win a title d: Miami doesn't deserve to win e: LeBron's an egotistically, arrogant cry baby f: I hate Miami g: I couldn't handle losing to D.Wade with the refs in his pocket shooting 30+ free throws a game and finally h: I hate Miami, they can all go take a long walk off a short pier. (Not to die, but to go take a looooooong swim for about 15 years)
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    A young Chicago Bulls ball club ( with the best regular season record )...

    ...have met their match and are now down 3 games to 1 as Lebron comes up big again - with an overtime win.

    Miller Time!!

    Mike Miller answers the bell with 12 points and leads a bench that shot 50% from the field and 4 of 7 from downtown.

    According to the NBA site, when Miller was in the game, the Heat outscored the Bulls by
    36 points in only 26 minutes of play.

    When Haslem was in the game the Heat outscored the Bulls by 25 points in 33 minutes of play.

    Miller's margin is the largest margin that I can remember for any player in any playoff game.

    Miller and Haslem also had 9 rebounds each to lead the Heat.

    My bottom line - the Heat bench gets the game ball.

    Miami also shot 16 more free throws than the Bulls - that's a lot to overcome and I have not heard anyone complain about the officiating.

    Secret Miami Defense:

    Control Mr. Roses' penetration and force him to shoot jumpers or just put Lebron on him in critical situations.



    Baring a very serious anomaly in the laws of NBA series percentages, it looks like it will be a rematch of the 2006 NBA Finals between the Heat Of Miami and the Mavericks Of Dallas.

    - Who we want to win is one thing and who we think will win can be another.

    Since the Mavs beat the champs (my team) and they don't have any championships, I wouldn't mind seeing them win this time.

    But I need to look at the stats before I give my prediction on the winner.

    Question??

    Will Lebron get the last laugh on his critics???


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    • Profile picture of the author jeffrey73
      TL is exactly right. The "hype" behind the 2 1/2 men has "overshadowed" how truly talented and tough the entire team is as a whole.

      Dirk will not lay-down this time, and neither will LeBron. This will be much harder fought this time around.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Hey, you already made your prediction. You picked the Mavs after they swept that other team whose name eludes me now.

      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      But I need to look at the stats before I give my prediction on the winner.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      TL, I just read that the Lakers signed Mike Brown as your new coach! I am so happy they did because he was one of those being considered to coach the Warriors and I think he sucks. Meanwhile we signed Jerry West to the front office. The tides are changing and to make sure they change I put my own curse on the Lakers so they won't win another Championship for at least two decades. Sorry. Nothing personal but it just had to be done.
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        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        TL, I just read that the Lakers signed Mike Brown as your new coach! I am so happy they did because he was one of those being considered to coach the Warriors and I think he sucks. Meanwhile we signed Jerry West to the front office. The tides are changing and to make sure they change I put my own curse on the Lakers so they won't win another Championship for at least two decades. Sorry. Nothing personal but it just had to be done.

        Mr. Brown came out of nowhere to coach the Cavs a few years back for a few years so I don't see how come the Lakers couldn't give Brian Shaw or even Byron Scott a chance to coach.

        Kobe has refused comment thus far.

        I guess I'll just have to pray on it and hope for the best.

        Wild Wild West:

        Mr. West is a part of the rebel alliance and a traitor. Take him away!!!!!!!!!!!

        He is banished to the land of Oak.

        Mr. Buss, tear down his statue and erect one of Kareem in its place.

        At least you folks have a championship to work with ( which is the same amount of championships Mr. West helped us win) and I welcome the competition.


        Regarding your anti-Laker curse, I'm not sure what to say except...

        ...we have secretly employed people for decades to ward off curses and to also rain the blessing of the basketball gods upon us.

        How to you think we've been so successful all these years?

        All The Best!!

        TL

        Ps. I'm putting a curse on your beloved Giants so that they don't win another title for a couple of decades.

        ( all I need is a Willie Mays baseball card for the ceremony. )
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      • Profile picture of the author jeffrey73
        I'm joining you on this one Tim and also putting my own special curse on the Lakers. You're right.. It HAS to be done!

        I'd think I'd rather see LeBron win 10 rings in a row, rather than to see Kobe win 1 more. He's definitely been way "over-hyped" by Spike Lee and other Laker fans as "better than Jordan", and "best player ever".

        It has finally been proven this year that he is not better than Jordan.

        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        The tides are changing and to make sure they change I put my own curse on the Lakers so they won't win another Championship for at least two decades. Sorry. Nothing personal but it just had to be done.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sunfyre7896
    The ugliness will surely come out once both series are finished officially and Dallas is set to take on Miami since they should have home court. Both sides will talk so much trash about the other including crazy Cuban, the fan owner that points out just how dirty the refs can be sometime, to the chagrin of people that think refs don't have bias or bet on games. Wasn't there a ref that got caught on that one? Hmmm. . . And also cry baby LeBron and why he hasn't won rings and why we should all admire him for his determination and blah, blah, barf. We'll see. Buying championships has worked for the Yankees. I don't see why it wouldn't work now for all their band wagon fans. But you NEVER really know and Dallas is hungry this time around. Battle scarred and ready for war.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Dallas puts a young OKC ball club out of their misery in 5 games with another late 4th period comeback 100 to 96.

    Shawn Marion AKA The Matrix surprises everyone with 26 big points.

    Dirk continues to be the MVP of the playoffs with 26 points himself.

    Perhaps the Finals can begin on Sunday night if Miami ends the Bulls season tonight in Chicago.

    I say get it over with.


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  • Profile picture of the author Sunfyre7896
    I'm wanting Miami Chicago to go at least 6, if not 7. Dallas could use some extra rest like they did after beating that team from L.A. . . . You get rewarded for beating teams quickly. And 12-3 in the playoffs is pretty quick including 5 straight road wins. Miami was the last one to win that many road wins in the playoffs in 05 I believe. . . I think Miami needs to get more shooters and a deeper bench to match up with Dallas, but with the league wanting the Heat to win and the refs calling whatever, anything can happen. Dallas is the better team, but Miami has more stars. We'll see what happens.
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by Sunfyre7896 View Post

      I'm wanting Miami Chicago to go at least 6, if not 7. Dallas could use some extra rest like they did after beating that team from L.A. . . . You get rewarded for beating teams quickly. And 12-3 in the playoffs is pretty quick including 5 straight road wins. Miami was the last one to win that many road wins in the playoffs in 05 I believe. . . I think Miami needs to get more shooters and a deeper bench to match up with Dallas, but with the league wanting the Heat to win and the refs calling whatever, anything can happen. Dallas is the better team, but Miami has more stars. We'll see what happens.

      You claim the league wants the Heat to win yeh??

      I doubt it.

      I haven't heard any Chicago complaints regarding the officiating. If it was so bad then I think somebody from Chicago would have spoken up and taken the fine.

      As you're a Dallas fan I understand you wanting the Miami/Chicago series to go at least 6 if not 7 games.

      Only time will tell who's the better team.

      I can't wait to find out.

      Looks like Miami will have home court advantage by a regular season record of 58-24 - just one game better than Dallas.

      TL

      PS. We're on the same page in rooting for Dallas but I'm not sure who will win.
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    Ok that was an impressive - and most depressing comeback by the Heat. Now 2 teams that I hate in the finals. I hope it's a hard battle full of injuries

    And just for fun, maybe a Lebron ball save where Mark Cuban gets crushed to death.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    Miami just came back in that game like I haven't seen in a while. I thought Lebron was just mailing in that game, then he just decides, "yeah I think we'll just win it now".

    Awesome game.

    The bulls have a very bright future though, they're just missing one "Scottie Pippen" type player to be the second scorer behind MVP.

    I think the finals are going to be a great show, can't wait.
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  • Profile picture of the author EBiz81
    Go Mavs!! I think this is the year they can do it. I will be watching!
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  • Profile picture of the author TrumpiaTim
    I'm hoping the Mavs take it, but what a game tonight huh?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Lebron vs Cuban...Who do I dislike the least?

    Go Mavs. At least I can root for Kidd and Dirk.
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  • Profile picture of the author muyenp
    I have to go with Dallas, Dirk Nowitski is just too accurate of a shooter.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    The game began to turn after a flagrant foul by Boozer on Lebron late in the 3rd period.

    After that flagrant foul by Boozer, it was a slow downhill spiral for the Bulls culminating with a stunning 18-3 run by Miami to end the game and to put the young Bulls and their fans out of their misery.

    Putting Lebron on Mr. Rose in the 4th period once again worked like a charm.

    Miami Thrice scored the Heat's last 33 points as once again all three members had at least 20 points each.

    Better luck next time to the rowdy Bulls faithful.

    ( There were chants of "Lebron sucks" when James was at the free throw line and chants of "bull****, bull****" when the faithful disagreed with a call )


    The Finals:

    Both teams are red, red hot and I do not expect this series to go less than 6 games but stranger things have happened as the Heat have the hc advantage.

    My big question is will Miami "dee up" Dallas much the same way they "deeed up" the Bulls?

    In the name of my Lakers and for Machiavellian reasons of better Laker franchise moral etc., I'll say once again,...

    ... the team that beat the champs will become the champs.

    Lending credence to my strong belief that if we had beaten Dallas we would have proceeded to win it all.


    Enjoy The Finals!

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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Tonight we start the process of crowning a "new" NBA champion.

    Interesting tidbits...

    - Miami has the home court advantage.

    - Dallas has swept the season series vs. Miami the last 7 years.

    - Miami has averaged more points per game and gave up less points per game than Dallas in the regular season.

    - Dallas has averaged more made 3 pointers than any team in the playoffs and Miami has shot more foul shots per game than any other team in this years' playoffs.

    There couldn't be a bigger contrast in offensive philosophies than these two teams.

    Who will prevail???


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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      I pulling for Dallas of course TL. Wade's shoulder seems to be giving him real trouble lately and could be a factor.

      By the way, what do you think about Pippen calling James the greatest player ever? I was surprised. It's too soon to say something like that especially after Lebron's performance in the playoffs last year. Maybe Pippen and Jordan aren't getting along.
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        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        I pulling for Dallas of course TL. Wade's shoulder seems to be giving him real trouble lately and could be a factor.

        By the way, what do you think about Pippen calling James the greatest player ever? I was surprised. It's too soon to say something like that especially after Lebron's performance in the playoffs last year. Maybe Pippen and Jordan aren't getting along.
        For reasons state above, I like to see the Mavs win it but I have very some real concerns.

        I was also surprised to hear Pippen say what he said and I think it a wee bit premature.

        And maybe Scotty wanted to take a shot at Jorden just for fun but Pipen was courtside during that fantastic comeback vs. Chicago last week.

        All The Best!!

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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        I pulling for Dallas of course TL. Wade's shoulder seems to be giving him real trouble lately and could be a factor.

        By the way, what do you think about Pippen calling James the greatest player ever? I was surprised. It's too soon to say something like that especially after Lebron's performance in the playoffs last year. Maybe Pippen and Jordan aren't getting along.
        IMO, neither Jordan or Lebron are the greatest players ever...

        I'll take:
        Kareem
        Wilt
        Russell
        ...And maybe even Magic over either Lebron or Jordan.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sunfyre7896
    Thanks guys. At least there was a streak of about 4 or 5 where people were pulling for the Mavs of the light over the evil that is the team in black. Ironic color I might add. Tonight starts the war between the light warriors that represent everything that is good and right versus the barbaric and savage horde that represents death to the world of Basketballitum. May BasketGod have mercy on the good souls. . . And to Kurt. I like your honest, very unique opinion. It's not everyday that you see a player put over Jordan. And you have THREE to FOUR. Very impressive.
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      Originally Posted by Sunfyre7896 View Post

      Thanks guys. At least there was a streak of about 4 or 5 where people were pulling for the Mavs of the light over the evil that is the team in black. Ironic color I might add. Tonight starts the war between the light warriors that represent everything that is good and right versus the barbaric and savage horde that represents death to the world of Basketballitum. May BasketGod have mercy on the good souls. . . And to Kurt. I like your honest, very unique opinion. It's not everyday that you see a player put over Jordan. And you have THREE to FOUR. Very impressive.
      The game has changed and the big, talented centers seem to be a thing of the past.

      I watched Kareem when he was young and he dominated. And he did it against players like Nate Thurman, Bob Lanier, Walton, Wilt, etc.

      With Wilt, people bring up that he played against short white guys, which he did. But I remember a playoff game where Wilt blocked 6 or 7 of Kareem's sky hooks. And this was at the end of Wilt's career when he was past his prime. Kareem did have something like 40 points, but it's Wilt's athleticism that should be noted. And I don't recall Olajuwon blocking any sky hooks.

      Let's be honest, once every couple of seasons Kareem would get his sky hook blocked and it made every sports show highlights when it happened...To block 6-7 in a single game to me shows just what an athlete Wilt really was.

      Some people don't realize that Wilt was a border-line Olympic calibre hurdles sprinter in high school, or that he played point guard for the Globetrotters in the off-season.

      Think about a 7-footer today that would be a world-class hurdle sprinter? I don't see many.
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  • Profile picture of the author forcory
    No sir! It ain't that easy son! Its the MAVS vs the Heat today!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dubturbo
    Miami SWEEEEEPPPP. The end.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Miami outscores Dallas 92-84 in game #1 as Miami Thrice strikes again.

    - The Heat trailed by 8 points in the third quarter before turning things around.

    BTW, the game 1 winner has won the NBA finals 73% of the time.

    16 offensive rebounds by Miami a big factor. ( Dallas had only 6 )

    When you play a lots of zone as Dallas did last night, in an attempt to limit Miami's penetration, you normally leave yourself open to lots of second chance opps.

    Will Dallas abandon the zone?

    It's clear, Miami does not care how bad they're shooting, as long as their opponents shoot worse.

    Interesting stats...

    - Dallas made more free throws than Miami. ( 25-19 )

    - Miami made more 3pointers than Dallas. ( 11-9 )

    - Not one Dallas player had a positive effect, on the game for them according to the NBA.

    The NBA actually measures point differential while a player is in the game.

    - Both teams missed 7 foul shots.

    - Dallas bench goes 4 of 22. Miami's Charmlers scores 12 off bench on 3 of 7 from 3 point land.

    - Jason terry was the missing link as he scores 12 first half points but zip in the second half.






    If Dallas is to win this series someone must help Dirk.

    - Nowitzki tears tendon in left middle finger on his non shooting hand.

    - Heat undefeated at home this playoff season and Dallas must win at least 1 in Miami in order to take the crown.

    All the stats at NBA.com


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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    Well I tip my hat to Miami, they are a great team this year. I'm still hoping for a Dallas miracle, but when Lebron can so easily hit a shot from 3 feet past the 3 point line - and with a hand in his face - then there's not much hope for the opposite team.

    If nothing else, at least I'll get to see Mark Cuban cry.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sunfyre7896
    Great. Now I get to hear things like Miami Sweep and LeCrybaby is the greatest player ever for at least 2 days straight. . . When you make ridiculous lucky shots that fall only about 10% of the time and you also have the refs calling mostly a one way game in an entire half, it's hard to beat that. Everyone knows the league hates Dallas because of Cuban and wants Miami because they are their new darlings. As well as the media is biased hardcore towards Miami because they have 3 superstars despite having a worse overall team. And now we all get to listen to the 15% of basketball fans that also happen to be bandwagon Heat fans flap their mouths on and on as if this is the greatest team to ever suit up in any sport. My hats off to you for picking an obvious winner to root for. This way you'll never lose.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      I thought Dallas played real good defense most of the game. They just have to shoot at around 50% to win I think. Stojakovic and Barea shot terrible and they did have open shots. I don't think this will be a sweep.
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        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        I thought Dallas played real good defense most of the game. They just have to shoot at around 50% to win I think. Stojakovic and Barea shot terrible and they did have open shots. I don't think this will be a sweep.
        You're right Tim.

        If Dallas is going to win any games I think they need to score close to 90 points.


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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Goodbye Shaq...It was a lot of fun.

    Here's one of my all-time favorite sports related commercials Shaq did early in his career...It's seems really appropriate now, and still very cool:

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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Wellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll...
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Miami stunned by Dallas 95-92.

    Dirk and Terry show up in last 5-6 minutes of game.

    Dallas's "sag defense" worked to perfection - the last 6 minutes of the game.

    It was a total offensive and defensive breakdown by Miami.

    Will Dallas take 4 in a row and return the favor the Heat visited upon them in 2006???

    As far as I'm concerned, anything can happen after that 22-5 run in less than 6 minutes to end the game2.

    Miami should not have lost that game but they did.

    I thought the game was over when Wade hit that 3pointer to give Miami a 15 point lead in the 4th.

    Will the series return to South Florida??

    It was fun to watch.

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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      I thought it was over also TL. It just didn't look like Dallas had the fire in them to come back. Supposedly the celebration by Wade and Lebron after that 3 right in front of the Mavs bench pissed off the Mavs and may have sparked the comeback.

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      I thought the game was over when Wade hit that 3pointer to give Miami a 15 point lead in the 4th.
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        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        I thought it was over also TL. It just didn't look like Dallas had the fire in them to come back. Supposedly the celebration by Wade and Lebron after that 3 right in front of the Mavs bench pissed off the Mavs and may have sparked the comeback.
        At that point, I thought the Miami defense had also shut the Mavs down again but something got them started. LOL!

        Magic said it was Rick Carliae simply saying something like...

        there's plenty of time, let's keep pushing and playing hard.

        And whatdoyouknow...

        Big stats of the game:

        - Dallas shoots 48% from field.

        - Dallas out rebounds Miami by 11

        - Dallas bench out plays Miami's by 11 points.

        - 13 point positive differential for the Mavs when Terry was in the game and a 12 point minus when Haslem was in the game.

        - The Matrix had 20 points on 9 of 14 from the field.

        If he keeps playing like this, and Terry plays a decent game, the Mavs will be hard to beat.

        All The Best!!

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  • Profile picture of the author Sunfyre7896
    This is why people should take a look at what Wade and LeBron are all about. Once again proving to me that they are not worthy of being considered clutch players or all time greats. You never celebrate with so much time on the clock. Jordan would never have done that. Kobe wouldn't do that. You don't celebrate until the game's over. They'll be great. They'll be hall of famers. But they have a long ways to go to be considered all around elite greatness. They're like college players that don't know any better. I'm glad they did that. That sparked the fire under Dallas' a#@. That led to one of the best comebacks in NBA Finals history. One guy on the radio here for Fox News put it like it was 28 - 7 in the 4th quarter of an NFL game. That is not only a backbreaker, but demoralizing. Way to be Miami. Way to be. Proves Dallas is the classier, well put together team. Not to mention deeper and with a better head coach. If Dallas plays the way they should, I don't care about the 3 superstars because they don't have near the bench Dallas does, Dallas will win this series hands down. Better teams usually win a 7 game series but like I said, usually. We'll see.
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      Originally Posted by Sunfyre7896 View Post

      This is why people should take a look at what Wade and LeBron are all about. Once again proving to me that they are not worthy of being considered clutch players or all time greats. You never celebrate with so much time on the clock. Jordan would never have done that. Kobe wouldn't do that. You don't celebrate until the game's over. They'll be great. They'll be hall of famers. But they have a long ways to go to be considered all around elite greatness. They're like college players that don't know any better. I'm glad they did that. That sparked the fire under Dallas' a#@. That led to one of the best comebacks in NBA Finals history. One guy on the radio here for Fox News put it like it was 28 - 7 in the 4th quarter of an NFL game. That is not only a backbreaker, but demoralizing. Way to be Miami. Way to be. Proves Dallas is the classier, well put together team. Not to mention deeper and with a better head coach. If Dallas plays the way they should, I don't care about the 3 superstars because they don't have near the bench Dallas does, Dallas will win this series hands down. Better teams usually win a 7 game series but like I said, usually. We'll see.
      I'd like to see Dallas win for many reasons but I wouldn't bet my life or any money on it.

      Time will tell who the better team will be.

      If Dallas wins game #3, I believe there will be an extra amount of pressure on Miami to not lose game #4 and go down 3 games to 1.

      I guess the same can be said for Dallas.

      Some people believe everything will revolve around the bench play and so far the bench play has been a huge factor in each teams' win.

      I can't wait for game #3 in Big D.

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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    FYI:

    Since the NBA Finals moved to a 2-3-2 format in 1985, when the teams are tied at 1 game each, the team that wins game #3 has won the series all 11 times.

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      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      FYI:

      Since the NBA Finals moved to a 2-3-2 format in 1985, when the teams are tied at 1 game each, the team that wins game #3 has won the series all 11 times.

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      Wow, now that's an interesting stat. It will be fun to watch this next game. As much as I hate both teams, the rivalry is keeping it fun to watch.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Dallas achieved it's primary goal in Miami by getting a split.

    Now the pressure is clearly on the Heat to win at least 1 game in Dallas to return back home to Miami for games 6 and 7.

    ---- In 1989 my Lakers returned home down 3 games to 2 but still prevailed vs. the Pistons.

    If Miami continues to shoot more 3pointers than free throws they will be in big trouble.

    --- 55 3point attempts and only 50 free throw attempts in the first 2 games.

    Miami had been shooting free throws at a top 5 historic clip in this playoff season but they are not doing it vs. the Mavs and as far as I'm concerned it means big trouble for the Heat.

    Mr. James has shot only 6 fts in the first 2 games!!??!!!!

    Meanwhile...

    The Mavs have continued to make 3pointers at a top 5 playoff historic clip during this series vs. the Heat.

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  • Profile picture of the author drewsg
    With the exception of 6 minutes of basketball, Miami has pretty much dominated this series... Heat in 6
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by drewsg View Post

      With the exception of 6 minutes of basketball, Miami has pretty much dominated this series... Heat in 6

      Once again the Heat shot more 3pointers than free throws and still won 88-86 with Dirk missing a 19 footer from one of his favorite spots on the floor at the buzzer.

      He had a good look but it "rimmed-out".

      D. Wade lead the way for the Heat with 29 points on 12 of 21 from the field and a big 11 rebounds.

      Earlier in this thread I said something to the effect of ... if Dallas does not score at least 90 points they will not beat Miami in a game.

      So far I'm on point.

      Of course anything can happen but if I were a betting man I'd now have to pick Miami in no more than 6 games.

      - Now Dallas must beat Miami 3 times in the next 4 games if they are to win the title.

      I just don't see Dallas putting up enough points to beat Miami 3 more times in the next 4 games.

      Amazingly, Miami is beating Dallas in the 3point game and their bench played much better as all their bench players had a net positive effect on the game for them.

      Mario Charmers was 4 4 6 from 3point land and ended up with 12 big points off the bench.

      Miami outscored the Mavericks by a 40-22 margin in the paint which may be the big stat of the day.

      Miami had at least eight dunks.

      Even though Dallas had a 11-2 run to end the first half and a huge 17-3 run in the third quarter the Heat still prevailed.

      Dallas is in big trouble unless Jason Terry explodes and the bench plays much better the rest of the series.


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  • Profile picture of the author Jerome15
    Dallas still not showing the way they play as they did in OKC, i hope they will play like that again to win the finals series
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    Mario Chalmers had a big game for Miami, I was impressed with how he stepped up to the plate for such a young player.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      What happened to Barea? He played so well throughout the playoffs, then gets to the finals and is terrible, missing wide open layups and threes. Plus 4 turnovers last night with only one assist in 19 minutes. If he was playing at the level he was against OKL Dallas would be up 3-0. And it ain't the Miami defense.
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      • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        What happened to Barea? He played so well throughout the playoffs, then gets to the finals and is terrible, missing wide open layups and threes. Plus 4 turnovers last night with only one assist in 19 minutes. If he was playing at the level he was against OKL Dallas would be up 3-0. And it ain't the Miami defense.

        You're right Tim.

        Mr. B. has been a big letdown in the finals.

        He's only 5 of 23 from 2point range and 1 for 8 from 3point land.

        Many of his shots are in and outs.

        I'm not sure it would be 3-0 with Miami's ability to overcome but it might be 2-1 in Dallas's favor.

        I say it is Miami's defense when it comes to Mr. B's penetration but he is missing a bunch of wide open jumpers.


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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    It's do or die for Dallas tonight.

    If they win tonight, anything can happen in this series but...

    If they go down 3 games to 1, I won't be expecting any miracles.

    I think Dallas will win tonight.


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  • Profile picture of the author Sunfyre7896
    Dallas role players and bench are just cold right now. It's not all Miami's D. Dallas is missing wide open looks. That won't happen every game and the scrubs on Miami's bench won't be hot every game, like making a 3 from nearly half court. That was the difference in the last game. Albeit, things might have gone differently, it put Dallas down by 7 at that point and Dallas only lost by 2. Speaking of which, each game has been close and anything can happen. Biggest stat point. Dallas has played like absolute dogsh#$, except for Dirk, including worrying about fouls, thus leading to open dunks and layups and Miami is barely winning. I wouldn't call that extreme dominance. Look for Dallas to be in a must win and possibly a much needed flagrant one hard foul in the lane. Not to put someone out, just to send a message that we're not soft and you're not just going to score with a pansy swipe breeze on your neck while you do. Put Wade on the floor and make them think twice about just coming inside every time. Dallas evens this series tonight.
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by Sunfyre7896 View Post

      Dallas role players and bench are just cold right now. It's not all Miami's D. Dallas is missing wide open looks. That won't happen every game and the scrubs on Miami's bench won't be hot every game, like making a 3 from nearly half court. That was the difference in the last game. Albeit, things might have gone differently, it put Dallas down by 7 at that point and Dallas only lost by 2. Speaking of which, each game has been close and anything can happen. Biggest stat point. Dallas has played like absolute dogsh#$, except for Dirk, including worrying about fouls, thus leading to open dunks and layups and Miami is barely winning. I wouldn't call that extreme dominance. Look for Dallas to be in a must win and possibly a much needed flagrant one hard foul in the lane. Not to put someone out, just to send a message that we're not soft and you're not just going to score with a pansy swipe breeze on your neck while you do. Put Wade on the floor and make them think twice about just coming inside every time. Dallas evens this series tonight.
      IMHO, the bench play has determined the winner of each game.

      Regarding Dallas getting rough, that's not going to stop Miami.

      In game #3, Jason Kidd almost clawed out Chris Bosh's eye and he's the one that hit the winning shot.

      In game #2 a Mavs did something extra rough that had Haslem asking that Mav player - like come on man, what are you doing?

      The teams almost started the process of fighting but I can't remember the specifics.

      But I don't remember any flagrant fouls in this series.

      Getting rough is not going to bother Miami.


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      • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
        Dallas just needs a couple others besides Dirk to play well. I do like their defense in this series though. Someone else just please make some shots.

        On a side note, my Warriors hired Mark Jackson to be coach. "Mama, there goes that man again". Seems like a big gamble since he has zero coaching experience. Plus, the owners said they were looking for a coach with experience then hire Jackson.
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        • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
          Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

          Dallas just needs a couple others besides Dirk to play well. I do like their defense in this series though. Someone else just please make some shots.

          On a side note, my Warriors hired Mark Jackson to be coach. "Mama, there goes that man again". Seems like a big gamble since he has zero coaching experience. Plus, the owners said they were looking for a coach with experience then hire Jackson.
          I am also baffled by that hire and will monitor the situation.

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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by Sunfyre7896 View Post

      Dallas role players and bench are just cold right now. It's not all Miami's D. Dallas is missing wide open looks. That won't happen every game and the scrubs on Miami's bench won't be hot every game, like making a 3 from nearly half court. That was the difference in the last game. Albeit, things might have gone differently, it put Dallas down by 7 at that point and Dallas only lost by 2. Speaking of which, each game has been close and anything can happen. Biggest stat point. Dallas has played like absolute dogsh#$, except for Dirk, including worrying about fouls, thus leading to open dunks and layups and Miami is barely winning. I wouldn't call that extreme dominance. Look for Dallas to be in a must win and possibly a much needed flagrant one hard foul in the lane. Not to put someone out, just to send a message that we're not soft and you're not just going to score with a pansy swipe breeze on your neck while you do. Put Wade on the floor and make them think twice about just coming inside every time. Dallas evens this series tonight.
      IMHO, the bench play has determined the winner of each game.

      Regarding Dallas getting rough, that's not going to stop Miami.

      In game #3, Jason Kidd almost clawed out Chris Bosh's eye and he's the one that hit the winning shot.

      In game #2 a Mavs did something extra rough that had Haslem asking that Mav player - like come on man, what are you doing?

      The teams almost started the process of fighting or at least pushing each other but I can't remember the specifics.

      But I don't remember any flagrant fouls in this series.

      Getting rough is not going to bother Miami.


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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    I want this series to go the full 7 games because after it's over we move into what I call the "dead season" no football, no basketball, only baseball which I do not watch until the world series - if I watch it then.

    Also, the longer they play this finals the longer my team remains NBA champs until a new champ is crowned.

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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin AKA Hubcap
      A few points:

      1. Dallas needs another shooter who can score consistently. Nowitzki is a beast. I remember when his post game close to the basket wasn't that strong.

      Now he can post up, turn and face, and hit the outside jumper. He's a seven footer with small forward athleticism. Causes a lot of match up problems.

      2. Miami is slow to rotate to the double team when Dirk gets the ball. Maybe try some ball denial because whenever he touches it he's a threat.

      3. Something happens to Miami when they go up by ten or more. They get lazy. No ball movement (passing) on offense. They spread the floor, isolate, dribble for 20 seconds and and end up taking bad shots. Keep the ball moving. It's easier to find the free man and break down the defense.

      4. Look for both teams to come out fast and furious tonight. Dallas does not want to go down 3-1 and for Miami, well, they smell blood in the water.
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      • Profile picture of the author jeffrey73
        Miami just does not have that "killer" instinct that people thought they would have earlier on ( including me ). Wade clearly was not thinking when he drove for that lay-up to be down by one. Did he expect Dallas might miss a free-throw? LOL

        This series is way too close to call at this point. Dirk has so many skills for a big man it's crazy!
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      • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
        Originally Posted by Kevin AKA Hubcap View Post

        A few points:

        1. Dallas needs another shooter who can score consistently. Nowitzki is a beast. I remember when his post game close to the basket wasn't that strong.

        Now he can post up, turn and face, and hit the outside jumper. He's a seven footer with small forward athleticism. Causes a lot of match up problems.

        2. Miami is slow to rotate to the double team when Dirk gets the ball. Maybe try some ball denial because whenever he touches it he's a threat.

        3. Something happens to Miami when they go up by ten or more. They get lazy. No ball movement (passing) on offense. They spread the floor, isolate, dribble for 20 seconds and and end up taking bad shots. Keep the ball moving. It's easier to find the free man and break down the defense.

        4. Look for both teams to come out fast and furious tonight. Dallas does not want to go down 3-1 and for Miami, well, they smell blood in the water.
        You were dead on as far as #'s 3 and 4 are concerned.

        Whenever Miami has any type of lead like 7-10 points, it seems like they go into shutdown mode and Dallas comes roaring back.

        I found the initial flurry by Dallas very amusing and then 4 minutes later the score is tied at only 6 each.

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    • Profile picture of the author jeffrey73
      This is the part that Tim & I wish would happen SOONER than LATER.

      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      Also, the longer they play this finals the longer my team remains NBA champs until a new champ is crowned.

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      • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
        Another ugly game. I'm glad Dallas won but I really don't like the offensive game played by either team. Plus, I just don't buy the idea that the defense is so tough that it's hard to score. I see players missing wide open shots over and over. I think Jackson mentioned the same thing tonight. Yes, defense is important, but making shots is just as important.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Tim has a point.

    The offensive miscues had me chuckling on many occasions.

    Dallas survives and they did not have to score 90 points.

    As soon as the game started I noticed that the fix was in.

    Lebron played the game in what we call "hostage mode", as if his family was being held hostage and he was instructed to throw the game or else.

    But what I didn't realize was...

    It was Wade!!!!

    Anyways, the Dallas bench thoroughly outplayed Miami's and the rest is history.

    Dallas can win this series especially if they go back to Miami up 3 games to 2.

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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin AKA Hubcap
      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      Lebron played the game in what we call "hostage mode", as if his family was being held hostage and he was instructed to throw the game or else.
      Where was Lebron all night. When the team needed him to SCORE he's nowhere to be found.

      If the Heat win last nigh and go up 3-1 it become awful hard for Dallas to comeback. Instead Lebron's a no-show offensively, Miami breaks down again and the series is tied.

      And let's not forget Dirk had a sinus infection and fever.

      If Lebron wants to be the man he needs to be there in the clutch.
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