What Do You HATE about Internet Marketing?

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Hi warriors...

I'll try my best to help you out...

What do you hate the most about internet marketing?

When I first started it was being told that it was easy and required hardly any work

What about you?
#hate #internet #marketing
  • Profile picture of the author mediaspree
    All my friends and family wanting to "know what I do" and when explaining it getting blank stares.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
      Originally Posted by mediaspree View Post

      All my friends and family wanting to "know what I do" and when explaining it getting blank stares.
      Ha ha thats a good one..

      Here's what I say now. I make websites for people .. Works every time
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    • Profile picture of the author lee168
      Hi Gavin,
      IM is just like UFO for those who never getting in with internet!
      But after know about IM, what I hate are writing articles and some offsite optimization: backlinking and boost up the traffics.
      But with your 50 Daily Traffic Challenge, I hope it can help me to stay away from the "HATE" in IM.
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    • Profile picture of the author hireava
      Originally Posted by mediaspree View Post

      All my friends and family wanting to "know what I do" and when explaining it getting blank stares.
      I kinda can relate to this situation.
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  • Profile picture of the author David McKee
    All the scammyness that makes life difficult for those of us who are trying to create real, useful, high quality products and services, and want to actually earn the money we make through hard work.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
      Originally Posted by David McKee View Post

      All the scammyness that makes life difficult for those of us who are trying to create real, useful, high quality products and services, and want to actually earn the money we make through hard work.
      Hey David, that is one I am coming across now.. It's getting harder and harder to break through all the clutter and crap thats out there.

      A lot of people have been made to believe it takes a few clicks and money will pop out the other end. When I see clickbank sales videos I cant believe people actually fall for the lies.

      It actually blows me away. Scammer products seem to me making the most of the money these days
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      • Profile picture of the author Linda_C
        Originally Posted by GavinStephenson View Post

        Scammer products seem to me making the most of the money these days
        I don't think they are. The loudest person in the room isn't always the most effective person in the room. They're just the loudest.
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        • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
          Trust me Linda they are making big money on the backend. I happen to be friends with some of the CB guys but that crowd isn't for me. It's just good to have friends in high places.

          Originally Posted by Linda_C View Post

          I don't think they are. The loudest person in the room isn't always the most effective person in the room. They're just the loudest.
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          • Profile picture of the author Linda_C
            Originally Posted by GavinStephenson View Post

            Trust me Linda they are making big money on the backend. I happen to be friends with some of the CB guys but that crowd isn't for me. It's just good to have friends in high places.
            The post I replied to said "scammer products" are making the money. Not all CB guys are scammer products, though some are.

            What I'm saying, though, is that "scammer products" aren't the only ones making big money. For example, I know lots of merchants making a LOT of money online without being scammers. They're just not "loud" so they're less visible. One of my clients makes over a million/year and you'd never know it because they rake in cash very quietly. lol.

            Also... people who build sustainable businesses (ebay, google, plentyoffish, dell, vocus, pixability, etc) make way more than scammers in the long term. That's kind of my point.
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            • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
              Originally Posted by Linda_C View Post

              The post I replied to said "scammer products" are making the money. Not all CB guys are scammer products, though some are.

              What I'm saying, though, is that "scammer products" aren't the only ones making big money. For example, I know lots of merchants making a LOT of money online without being scammers. They're just not "loud" so they're less visible. One of my clients makes over a million/year and you'd never know it because they rake in cash very quietly. lol.

              Also... people who build sustainable businesses (ebay, google, plentyoffish, dell, vocus, pixability, etc) make way more than scammers in the long term. That's kind of my point.
              Coooll totally get you now
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  • Profile picture of the author yankforlife41
    Originally Posted by jmasterson View Post

    I hate how people waste time talking about things they hate instead of talking about something productive like how they can add value to a marketplace in exchange for money. Marketing tactics, copywriting, product creation, etc.

    This discussion of talking about things you hate about internet marketing is probably the least productive thing you can be doing with your time.
    Knew that reply was coming lol
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    The isolation.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
      Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

      The isolation.
      In numerology im the number 11.. 11's are the isolation type. Having company with me sometimes doesn't rub well with me.. but sometimes it does get boring.
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      • Profile picture of the author Andrew O
        Originally Posted by GavinStephenson View Post

        In numerology im the number 11.. 11's are the isolation type. Having company with me sometimes doesn't rub well with me.. but sometimes it does get boring.
        Off topic, but I looked up numerology after I saw your post, and this one site said that my birth day (22) determines my personality and it was EXTREMELY specific and accurate.

        Where did you get 11 from? How do I learn more about this numerology stuff?
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      Jonny I hear you bro
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  • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
    Originally Posted by jmasterson View Post

    I hate how people waste time talking about things they hate instead of talking about something productive like how they can add value to a marketplace in exchange for money. Marketing tactics, copywriting, product creation, etc.

    This discussion of things you hate about internet marketing is probably the least productive thing you can be doing with your time.
    Why are you here?
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  • Profile picture of the author danielp
    WOW...numerology...now there's a niche! lol

    But seriously i have to agree people have to quit looking for that magic button and get rid of the shiny object syndrome and just go into this like it's a p/t job at the beginning but one that offers the best perks! There's no getting past the fundamentals learning curve other than just implementing what you've learned.
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  • Profile picture of the author JackPowers
    Depending on Google for 95% of my income.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew O
    Friends/family making me do favors for them because I'm the one who "doesn't have a job" :p
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  • Profile picture of the author guzie
    Hype I hate it with a passion. Seems everyone including legit marketers get caught up in it. I do my best to market without hype and yes sometimes the results are less than desirable.

    Sure would like to know how many more members agree with me on this?
    Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author abigailmarketing
    I hate all the criticism about IM. I know not all people are aware of the profit we are getting from IM.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Miranda
    I hate expenses. Why Can't it all be profit?
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    • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
      Originally Posted by danielp View Post

      WOW...numerology...now there's a niche! lol

      But seriously i have to agree people have to quit looking for that magic button and get rid of the shiny object syndrome and just go into this like it's a p/t job at the beginning but one that offers the best perks! There's no getting past the fundamentals learning curve other than just implementing what you've learned.
      Words of wisdom for sure bro.

      Originally Posted by JackPowers View Post

      Depending on Google for 95% of my income.
      thats some scary S*** I don't know how you do it. You using Gsniper?

      Originally Posted by Andrew O View Post

      Friends/family making me do favors for them because I'm the one who "doesn't have a job" :p
      YEAHHHH THAT IT A PAIN!!! You free time just got more busy ha ha

      Originally Posted by guzie View Post

      Hype I hate it with a passion. Seems everyone including legit marketers get caught up in it. I do my best to market without hype and yes sometimes the results are less than desirable.

      Sure would like to know how many more members agree with me on this?
      Paul
      I have found the HYPEY emails get opened more HYPEY Squeeze pages covert better ive never tested a hype sales letter.


      Originally Posted by Steven Miranda View Post

      I hate expenses. Why Can't it all be profit?
      Yeh I hate that, LOL but well worth it .. It's easy money you just have to lose a little first
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  • Profile picture of the author WAWarrior
    The Noise level is terrible... you can never have peace in Affiliate marketing even if you are working in isolation with all the shiny objects out there! After a while you get wiser...
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Benjamin
    I'm GRATEFUL I have 3 computers, internet service,
    and the ability to CHOOSE how much money I want
    to make at any given time.

    Seriously. *I* get to CHOOSE what lifestyle I want?

    It doesn't happen in a lot of areas of the world. We
    are lucky we had the opportunity to DO what we're
    doing right now posting what we dislike about some-
    thing MOST people would cherish everywhere else.

    This isn't an attack on this thread, nor am I preach-
    ing how it's *unproductive* this thread is here...

    rather, it's an appreciation.

    For I can talk about how much I hate driving traffic,
    writing all the time, getting the sales message right,
    spending money to MAKE money, etc.

    But is it really a bad thing compared to alternatives?

    Manual laboring in the sun in Africa or someplace in
    India where a computer is luxury and unfordable to
    the masses?
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  • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
    I hate this too:

    Someone just called my product Elementary? my response:

    Elementary WTF are you serious?

    Are you making money online bro?

    The headline for the thread was 'make your first sale online in less than 7 days'.

    Why would buy it if your not a newbie.. ?

    Apply s*** man. if you did you would had made a profit either way .. (my product is double your money back)

    Stop jumping from product to product and do something..

    Your $7 mealy bucks is going back into the next pill of junk you buy good luck

    refund sent


    Don't get on the wrong side of me. I'll blow your flaws out the water HA HA
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    • Profile picture of the author bhuff85
      Originally Posted by GavinStephenson View Post

      I hate this too:

      Someone just called my product Elementary? my response:

      Elementary WTF are you serious?

      Are you making money online bro?

      The headline for the thread was 'make your first sale online in less than 7 days'.

      Why would buy it if your not a newbie.. ?

      Apply s*** man. if you did you would had made a profit either way .. (my product is double your money back)

      Stop jumping from product to product and do something..

      Your $7 mealy bucks is going back into the next pill of junk you buy good luck

      refund sent


      Don't get on the wrong side of me. I'll blow your flaws out the water HA HA
      No offense, but a simple refund without all of the additional commentary would've sufficed. That's poor customer service, no matter what people say. There will be people who don't like what they buy from you. That's business. Simply give a refund and move along. A reply like that could damage any credibility you may have been able to save.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Benjamin
      Originally Posted by GavinStephenson View Post

      I hate this too:

      Someone just called my product Elementary? my response:

      Elementary WTF are you serious?

      Are you making money online bro?

      The headline for the thread was 'make your first sale online in less than 7 days'.

      Why would buy it if your not a newbie.. ?

      Apply s*** man. if you did you would had made a profit either way .. (my product is double your money back)

      Stop jumping from product to product and do something..

      Your $7 mealy bucks is going back into the next pill of junk you buy good luck

      refund sent


      Don't get on the wrong side of me. I'll blow your flaws out the water HA HA
      I used to do something similar when I first started
      selling products, and *learned* that it's all just a
      part of doing business.

      Not everyone will be happy with my products and
      or service. I learned to accept that. Refund. And
      move one.

      Aside from that, it's a huge waste of time to give
      customers a piece of my mind when I'm too busy
      making money or building lists.

      I'm a little surprised that you're still doing this con-
      sidering how long you've been around...
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      • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
        I have no issues with providing refunds..

        My problem with this one in-particular is that he told me he is making thousands of dollars a month and my course is Elementary?

        This is my headline for my product: I Can Help Your Make Your First Commission In Less Than 7 Days...

        What was he expecting? It cost $7 to get the product to me thats just stupid.

        But ohh well I guess my response was kind of crazy...

        I have no problems with refunds but things like that piss me off.. Im rich but i want my $7 back ... I gave him his money back before I even responded.

        I guess I just wanted him to wake up and smell the trees



        Originally Posted by bhuff85 View Post

        No offense, but a simple refund without all of the additional commentary would've sufficed. That's poor customer service, no matter what people say. There will be people who don't like what they buy from you. That's business. Simply give a refund and move along. A reply like that could damage any credibility you may have been able to save.
        Originally Posted by WhoIsBenjamin View Post

        I used to do something similar when I first started
        selling products, and *learned* that it's all just a
        part of doing business.

        Not everyone will be happy with my products and
        or service. I learned to accept that. Refund. And
        move one.

        Aside from that, it's a huge waste of time to give
        customers a piece of my mind when I'm too busy
        making money or building lists.

        I'm a little surprised that you're still doing this con-
        sidering how long you've been around...
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi Gavin,

      NICE!!! Take a look at the mindset people. I am assuming your full time!
      Yes and you correctly identified the reason for the nature of my response.

      Elementary WTF are you serious?

      Blah....
      Wrong mindset. If you believe their reason for refunding, then they are actually helping you to adjust your business positively. They presumeably felt that the sales page was misleading. You should thank them. If you don't believe their reason, put it down to experience and move on.

      Hi Andrew O,

      How do I learn more about this numerology stuff?
      HERE
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        What I hate most is having to put up with all the loud screaming, car screeching, crashes, gun shots, police and ambulance sirens, helicopters, crying, whimpering, etc while I'm trying to work.
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        • Profile picture of the author ExRat
          Hi Paul,

          What I hate most is having to put up with all the loud screaming, car screeching, crashes, gun shots, police and ambulance sirens, helicopters, crying, whimpering, etc while I'm trying to work.
          You need to turn the TV off mate

          Seriously though, I deliberately chose a place to live/work with plenty of leafy greenness around and a wonderful view of the bay.

          What I DO dislike is those days when either -

          a) those damn petrol leaf blowers/strimmers/hedgecutters are used unnecessarily in all of the lovely leafy greenness around, especially when it's hot enough to need the windows wide open (which is when it usually happens.)

          b) the powerboats are racing on the bay, which are extremely noisy (in an annoying way - they go vroom...vroom as the prop leaves the water when they wave hop) and make me jealous as I'd rather be on the water than looking at it

          What I love is starting work early (4.30am) and hearing nothing but birdsong through the window. It's musical heaven and really good for the health, particularly with sunrise thrown in as a bonus.
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        • Profile picture of the author Roaddog
          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          What I hate most is having to put up with all the loud screaming, car screeching, crashes, gun shots, police and ambulance sirens, helicopters, crying, whimpering, etc while I'm trying to work.

          lol..Your making me 'homesick' for L.A....I can hardly do anything without all that now.



          I don't love or hate anything about it.

          If I was to say something that was in any way negative, it's that I sit too much now.


          edit: How did we get in the basement?

          Come to think of it, that's how I found this place once upon a time...lol
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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    Originally Posted by GavinStephenson View Post



    What Do You HATE about Internet Marketing?

    I hate chat forum threads that ask me what I hate about my job.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lee Belch
    Scammers

    I hate them so much, i have had quite a few clients constantly asking me "does this service work" and "look at the proof of earnings from this guru"

    I then take a look at the sales page and the so called proof for adsense or clickbank has been edited so badly the text is not even the font it's meant to be.

    But people new to IM wouldn't spot this out,

    Makes me so angry that people would take somebodys hard earned cash and then supplying them a load of rubbish
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
    I really don't like SEO. I wouldn't say that I hate it, but its like trying to hit a constantly moving target 365 days a year--and what is considered "OK" today is banished tomorrow.

    I dislike it so much that I'm trying to move away from it. I'm looking for other ways to drive traffic to my sites and to tell you the truth its working far better than I ever imagined. I've also been creating sites to sell and its by far one of the easiest ways I've made money online.

    I'm about to dive head first into CPA offers and media buying soon... So I'm sure I'll have an updated "what I hate about IM" shortly haha.
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by BloggingPro View Post

      I really don't like SEO. I wouldn't say that I hate it, but its like trying to hit a constantly moving target 365 days a year--and what is considered "OK" today is banished tomorrow.
      Learn what the search engines want instead of what the "pro's" tell you to do to get rankings now. Google tells you exactly what they want from you and every algorithm change has reflected that and will do so in the future.

      Definitely learn how to generate traffic without search engines though. I think it's much easier. If you do nearly any other traffic generation technique with SEO in mind, you will still get search engine rankings...but they are more like a bonus instead of the main prize.
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      • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
        Originally Posted by petelta View Post

        Learn what the search engines want instead of what the "pro's" tell you to do to get rankings now. Google tells you exactly what they want from you and every algorithm change has reflected that and will do so in the future.

        Definitely learn how to generate traffic without search engines though. I think it's much easier. If you do nearly any other traffic generation technique with SEO in mind, you will still get search engine rankings...but they are more like a bonus instead of the main prize.
        Oh I definitely don't listen to the pro's. I've been reading about SEO for nearly four years now--I've heard just about every bull**** line there is when it comes to off-page optimization.

        I definitely enjoy the traffic and the victory feeling when you get a site ranked, but the race just gets old. Thankfully I outsource most of my SEO so these days its just a matter of managing and monitoring.

        I've always been a huge supporter of driving traffic through forums and I'm really starting to take advantage of Facebook. I would encourage others to do the same.
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  • Profile picture of the author williamrs
    There are things that I don't like, but I wouldn't say I hate something...

    For example, I don't like the income variation that I have with some CPA campaigns. Sometimes an offer gets paused or a CPC increases... These things make me have some months that are much better than others. Of course, I have a "minimum income" that I alwasy reach and there are months when I make a lot more money that I was expecting to make, so I can't complain... but I'm trying to cut down on the short-term campaigns and focus only on the ones that can last for several months.


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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    I hate all the competition we find online.

    I also hate seeing ridiculous products being sold only because many people spent a lot of money promoting them + have many affiliates, while good products are not sold because there is no-one promoting them like all the ‘famous’ products.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi clever7,

      I hate all the competition we find online.

      I also hate seeing ridiculous products being sold only because many people spent a lot of money promoting them + have many affiliates, while good products are not sold because there is no-one promoting them like all the 'famous' products.
      Looks like a challenge to me, rather than something to hate.
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  • Profile picture of the author dexignz
    Nothing lasts forever, as technology changes you have to try new SEO tactics, as Affiliate Network product offers stop you have to keep finding new ones that work and convert. Constant research unless you are selling your own product!
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  • Profile picture of the author David McKee
    Originally Posted by jmasterson View Post

    I hate how people waste time talking about things they hate instead of talking about something productive like how they can add value to a marketplace in exchange for money. Marketing tactics, copywriting, product creation, etc.

    This discussion of things you hate about internet marketing is probably the least productive thing you can be doing with your time.
    And yet you also posted...
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  • Profile picture of the author yohi5000
    I think the "waiting" game and people selling so many lies
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  • Profile picture of the author Buxx
    Buzzwords irk me. The most recent one I keep seeing is "OverDeliver." It sounds so smarmy and toolish. I think I have a subject for my first podcast rant.
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  • Profile picture of the author uebomoyi
    I wasn't too happy with the STEEP learning curve for SEO as well as other marketing methods...
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  • Profile picture of the author bravo75
    Marketing in general is a load of Bs. There is always an agenda. Nothing is ever real, or out of the deepness of anyone's heart. There is always a few bucks lingering in the backround.

    Satan's work. Capitalism/Debtism/
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    I wish I had gotten into it earlier so I would be more established now as the popularity of IM is increasing. The biggest drawbacks for me are:

    1. The lack of a strict schedule means I spent so much time working I forget to do things besides work.
    2. My eyes get really dry from looking at the monitor all day.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
      Originally Posted by AmandaT View Post

      I wish I had gotten into it earlier so I would be more established now as the popularity of IM is increasing. The biggest drawbacks for me are:

      1. The lack of a strict schedule means I spent so much time working I forget to do things besides work.
      2. My eyes get really dry from looking at the monitor all day.

      ha ha my eyes are red right now.. I need to turn down the brightness on my screen.

      Look up the 'Pomodoro technique'. Its really effective time management tool. You basically work in 25 minute intervals then take a 5 minute break then do another 25 minutes then take another 5 minutes break.

      You do that 4 times then have a 30 Minute break.

      On your breaks you reward yourself by looking at what you accomplish doing 25 minutes of focused work

      Works like a charm
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      • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
        Originally Posted by GavinStephenson View Post

        ha ha my eyes are red right now.. I need to turn down the brightness on my screen.

        Look up the 'Pomodoro technique'. Its really effective time management tool. You basically work in 25 minute intervals then take a 5 minute break then do another 25 minutes then take another 5 minutes break.

        You do that 4 times then have a 30 Minute break.

        On your breaks you reward yourself by looking at what you accomplish doing 25 minutes of focused work

        Works like a charm
        Ya, I do use that technique a lot actually. My problem is that I end up working for 12 hours a day rather than taking a break to do other things.
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  • Profile picture of the author realpph
    All the FAKE BS you have to deal with all the time!
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  • Profile picture of the author Morriskl
    The laziness that comes along with it!
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  • Profile picture of the author anderson24
    Black-hat technique used by SEO Professionals.
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    My biggest peeve is the extortional claims, mainly aimed at getting newbies to sign up, thinking they could make drastic amounts of money in a short time, when in fact it's a ruse to get their business and move along, tarring all in the industry with the same brush
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Cole
    Hate about Internet Marketing ? Nothing, I love being able to get up when my eyes open in the morning, no alarm clock needed, except maybe for some early morning fishing.

    Some Internet Marketers on the other hand, the ones that think that being sneaky, tricky or stealthy, in a word, dishonest, they make you want to slap them stupid, but you're way too late.

    A 'Ninja' is someone dressed all in black that sneaks up on and kills unsuspecting victims, not really a good thing, but a good copywriter can make ANYTHING sound good, even being a sneak thief killer.

    I love Internet Marketing but loath scammy Internet Marketers.
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  • Profile picture of the author MagicShovels
    I would say it's definitely all the dwelling on all the things I should have done. E.G. Stuck to X for over a year and not quit after 2 weeks and not jump from one thing to another like I have ADD, would have been rich by now!
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  • Profile picture of the author Stephen Gilbert
    One simple word, traffic! Also, i hate how there's so many different methods. I find it's harder to accomplish things when you first start out because it's hard to focus on just one thing :/
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    love IM to death, do not favor some of the dodgy people out there
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    It's an eye-opener for everyone!
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