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Don't know if these are all true, but entertaining none the less


  • Next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water temperature isn't just how you like it, think about how things used to be. Here are some facts about the 1500s:

  • Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May and still smelled pretty good by June. However, they were starting to smell, so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor.

  • Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children - last of all the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water."

  • Houses had thatched roofs - thick straw, piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the dogs, cats and other small animals (mice, rats, and bugs) lived in the roof.

  • When it rained it became slippery, and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof, hence the saying, "It's raining cats and dogs."

  • There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could really mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into existence.

  • The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt, hence the saying "dirt poor." The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (the straw left over after threshing grain) on the floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they kept adding more and more thresh until when you opened the door it would all start slipping outside. To prevent this, a piece of wood was placed in the entrance way - hence a "thresh hold."

  • They cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes the stew had food in it that had been there for quite awhile, -- hence the rhyme, "peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old."

  • Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man "could bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and "chew the fat."

  • Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with a high acid content caused some of the lead to leach on to the food, causing lead poisoning and death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

  • Most people did not have pewter plates, but had trenchers (a piece of wood with the middle scooped out like a bowl). Often trenchers were made from stale bread that was so old and hard that they could use them for quite some time. Trenchers were never washed and a lot of times worms and mold got into the wood and old bread. After eating off wormy, moldy trenchers, one would get "trench mouth."

  • Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, "the upper crust."

  • Lead cups were used to drink ale or whiskey. The combination would sometimes knock them out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up hence, the custom of holding a "wake."

  • England is old and small and they started out running out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a "bone-house" and reuse the grave. When reopening these coffins, one out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive. So they thought they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the "graveyard shift") to listen for the bell. Thus, someone could be "saved by the bell" or was considered "a dead ringer."
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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    Originally Posted by Roaddog View Post

    they took their yearly bath in May
    Doh!!!

    I knew there was something I forgot to do in May.
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    Don't you guy's wait for summer..downundah...
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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    Phew. that's alright then. I can wait until November.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Originally Posted by Roaddog View Post

    Don't know if these are all true, but entertaining none the less


    • Next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water temperature isn't just how you like it, think about how things used to be. Here are some facts about the 1500s:

    • Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May and still smelled pretty good by June. However, they were starting to smell, so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor.
    DOUBT IT! I've heard weekly, but YEARLY!!?!?

    • Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children - last of all the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water."
    They actually threw the bath water out, and sometimes out a window above the first floor. I doubt it was because they could lose someone.


    • Houses had thatched roofs - thick straw, piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the dogs, cats and other small animals (mice, rats, and bugs) lived in the roof.
    In WHAT country? They certainly COULD build better homes back then.


    • When it rained it became slippery, and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof, hence the saying, "It's raining cats and dogs."
    With the straw and all, it couldn't have been TOO slippery!

    As for the dead ringer, how did it come t mean "IDENTICAL!"

    But hey, you ARE talking about 500 years ago! The US didn't exist, MANY countries didn't exist. HECK, Berlin isn't much more than 1000 years old. Shakespeare was born around 1564.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Thanks Jim. This was entertaining. I've always liked this kind of history trivia.
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
    Originally Posted by Roaddog View Post

    The floor was dirt.
    Dirt? LUXURY!



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    • Profile picture of the author Roaddog
      LOL... Frank...

      Is that Marty Feldman I see? A very young Marty?


      I'd thank you for that Frank, but I seem to be exceptionally polite today, outta thanks...lol

      Serves me right... karma...I'm supposed to be working....:rolleyes:

      Edit: I got your answer below Frank. I was going to say John Cleese too? but you've already told me.
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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
        Originally Posted by Roaddog View Post

        Is that Marty Feldman I see? A very young Marty?
        Yep, that's Marty. Only two Pythons in the original sketch, but it became one of their best-known.
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        • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
          Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

          Yep, that's Marty. Only two Pythons in the original sketch,
          Along with Tim Brooke Taylor from the Goodies. Not sure if the Goodies were ever shown in the US, but during the 70's and early 80's they were very big in Australia. no doubt the UK too.
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          • Profile picture of the author Roaddog
            Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

            Along with Tim Brooke Taylor from the Goodies. Not sure if the Goodies were ever shown in the US, but during the 70's and early 80's they were very big in Australia. no doubt the UK too.

            You know whatever, may I call you what? (definite Abbot and Costello material)

            Anyway seriously I met many many Aussies when I was in the far east, they have a great sense of humor as far as I'm concerned.
            And it does surprise me that we don't have more exposure to Aussie comedians here in the states.


            By the way what are you doing up? Isn't it like 3:30 am 2012 over there right now?
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            • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
              Originally Posted by Roaddog View Post

              You know whatever, may I call you what?
              My Mum calls me Steven, my friends call me Steve. Everyone else calls me Oy You.

              Anyway seriously I met many many Aussies when I was in the far east, they have a great sense of humor as far as I'm concerned.
              The Aussie sense of humour, like our country is bone dry. Black and irreverent as well. A prime example is that anyone (everyone) with red hair is automatically given the nickname Blue.

              And it does surprise me that we don't have more exposure to Aussie comedians here in the states.
              There wouldn't be much of it on US TV, as the TV execs and advertisers seem to have something against that type of humour, or just don't understand it at all.

              A lot of our comedians play and are well received at the big international comedy festivals (Edinburgh and Montreal), but not surre if they do many gigs in the US. Big market, hard to crack I guess.

              Do a search on YouTube for names such as Rodney Rude, or for a combination of music and comedy, search for Kevin Bloody Wilson. Or even just Australian comedians. Take it from there.

              By the way what are you doing up? Isn't it like 3:30 am 2012 over there right now?
              It's early in the afternoon (or it was when I first posted, it's just after midnight at the moment). Being self-employed, I sleep whenever I'm tired, no matter what the time of day.

              Oh yeah, and BTW, The Goodies was actually a UK show. Mention them to any Aussies between the ages of 35 and 55, and you'll get a warm smile of reminisence from them, Everybody watched their show, and has fond memories of it. I'm sure they were big in NZ, Canada and of course the UK as well.
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              • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
                Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

                Oh yeah, and BTW, The Goodies was actually a UK show. Mention them to any Aussies between the ages of 35 and 55, and you'll get a warm smile of reminisence from them, Everybody watched their show, and has fond memories of it. I'm sure they were big in NZ, Canada and of course the UK as well.
                Yeah. I have fond memories of that trio. Although, I watched a recent tribute where they showed some original clips and I was...meh. I didn't think their comedy had aged that well.

                On the subject of Aussie comedians, I caught a show from Tim Minchin in London last year and was blown away. A huge talent, IMO.


                Frank

                PS Sorry for the thread hijack, Jim.
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                • Profile picture of the author Roaddog
                  Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

                  Yeah. I have fond memories of that trio. Although, I watched a recent tribute where they showed some original clips and I was...meh. I didn't think their comedy had aged that well.

                  On the subject of Aussie comedians, I caught a show from Tim Minchin in London last year and was blown away. A huge talent, IMO.


                  Frank

                  PS Sorry for the thread hijack, Jim.
                  Frank,
                  Your more than welcome to say whatever you want...

                  Thanks for the name to look up.


                  There wouldn't be much of it on US TV, as the TV execs and advertisers seem to have something against that type of humour, or just don't understand it at all.

                  A lot of our comedians play and are well received at the big international comedy festivals (Edinburgh and Montreal), but not surre if they do many gigs in the US. Big market, hard to crack I guess.

                  Do a search on YouTube for names such as Rodney Rude, or for a combination of music and comedy, search for Kevin Bloody Wilson. Or even just Australian comedians. Take it from there.
                  whatever...er Steve, thanks for names to look up too.

                  One great thing about the net is I'm not stuck with one point of view of anything (although 'they' (the Illuminati ) are trying )

                  I understand Aussie humor just fine.

                  It's strine(?) that I have to translate once in a while. Aussies are heavy on the slang.


                  That's cool you can sleep and work whenever, whatever... the Internet dream.

                  Good on ya...
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                  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
                    Originally Posted by Roaddog View Post

                    It's strine(?) that I have to translate once in a while. Aussies are heavy on the slang.
                    Struth, stone the crows, and whack the diddle-o, what do you mean by that cobber? We Ostrayuns are easy to understand.
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                • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
                  Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

                  I watched a recent tribute where they showed some original clips and I was...meh. I didn't think their comedy had aged that well.
                  Not much different to Monty Python. A LOT of their stuff hasn't travelled well either. Fawlty Towers though, I think will always be funny ("Don't mention the war" ).
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            Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

            Along with Tim Brooke Taylor from the Goodies. Not sure if the Goodies were ever shown in the US, but during the 70's and early 80's they were very big in Australia. no doubt the UK too.
            Used to watch it on PBS
            Funny I was thinking the other night about what my favorite TV series are and almost all of them are British.
            Not in order, but some of them are.
            Faulty Towers
            Goodies
            Python
            Dr. Who, then and now
            Torchwood
            Robin Hood
            The new Sherlock Holmes
            I know I'm missing quite a few so that would be the short list.
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