Wisdom of the Ancients.

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In ancient Greece (469 - 399 BC), Socrates was widely lauded for his wisdom. One day the great philosopher came upon an acquaintance who ran up to him excitedly and said, "Socrates, do you know what I just heard about one of your students?"

"Wait a moment," Socrates replied. "Before you tell me I'd like you to pass a little test. It's called the Test of Three."

"Test of Three?"

"That's right," Socrates continued. "Before you talk to me about my student let's take a moment to test what you're going to say. The first test is Truth. Have you made absolutely sure that what you are about to tell me is true?"

No," the man said, "actually I just heard about It."

"All right," said Socrates. "So you don't really know if it's true or not. Now let's try the second test, the test of Goodness. Is what you are about to tell me about my student something good?"

"No, on the contrary..."

"So," Socrates continued, "you want to tell me something bad about him even though you're not certain it's true?"

The man shrugged, a little embarrassed.

Socrates continued. "You may still pass though, b ecause there is a third test - the filter of Usefulness. Is what you want to tell me about my student going to be useful to me?"

"No, not really."

"Well," concluded Socrates, "if what you want to tell me is neither True nor Good nor even Useful, why tell it to me at all?"

The man was defeated and ashamed. This is the reason Socrates was a great philosopher and held in such high esteem.
  • Profile picture of the author Sunfyre7896
    Dang it. You got me. I was waiting for the punchline in the end. I seriously thought it was a joke the way it began and was reading. Sorry, it really is a good point, just the way it was written, I thought it was going to be a joke. I'm sure the end could've been redone to make it a joke. Nevermind. I'm sorry. I fail the test of 3. I wish sometimes, people would follow this before they speak to me though.
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  • Profile picture of the author gareth
    Socrates was a pansy and an outcast.

    Real men wore dead animal skins and cut each other up with daggers back in the day.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by gareth View Post

      Socrates was a pansy and an outcast.

      Real men wore dead animal skins and cut each other up with daggers back in the day.
      I think you forgot to mention that to Alexander the Great.
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      • Profile picture of the author jimbo13
        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        I think you forgot to mention that to Alexander the Great.
        But Kurt, Gareth wrote 'back in the day.'

        As Alexander was born after Socrates died we must presume that 'back in the day' starts sometime prior to 356BC

        Did you not know that?

        We need to know what Perdiccas II and Archelaus I were wearing to go 'back in the day'

        Dan
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        • Profile picture of the author Kurt
          Originally Posted by jimbo13 View Post

          But Kurt, Gareth wrote 'back in the day.'

          As Alexander was born after Socrates died we must presume that 'back in the day' starts sometime prior to 356BC

          Did you not know that?

          We need to know what Perdiccas II and Archelaus I were wearing to go 'back in the day'

          Dan
          No, I don't have to "presume" anything about "back in the day". Did you not notice I bolded Real men wore dead animal skins and not "back in the day"?

          Unless you're claiming that Alexander wore animal skins, your point is n/a. And since my comment was about a specific phrase in that sentence, I can name ANYONE that didn't/doesn't wear furs.

          BTW, I was (am) fully aware that Alexander and Socrates weren't comtemporaries.

          But since you're the expert on Greek fashion of the period, how did the Greek's fashions change in the 50-60 years or so between Socrates' death and Alexander's birth?
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          • Profile picture of the author jimbo13
            Think you've rather missed the point.

            Read again if you wish. The post wasn't aimed at you.

            Dan

            PS: None of them are Greek
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    Great post. I reposted it on FB,hope you don't mind.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    "Man Know Thyself"
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    • Profile picture of the author jimbo13
      Indeed.

      Dan

      PS: I do apologise Kurt, the difference is actually in our sense of humour so maybe a re-read won't help after all.
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