What Internet Businesses Have You Tried Without Achieving Any Success?

14 years ago

I've tried selling sand art. Didn't go so well.

Thought it would be an awesome idea.

Bought a bunch of colored sand.

Started making stuff.

Realized that...

a) Sand art does not ship well.

b) Who buys sand art anyway?

And, thus, my dreams of being the first millionaire sand artist died.

Anyone need some sand?

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E. Brian Rose 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

I've tried selling sand art. Didn't go so well.

Do it yourself ice kits were a big flop too.
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- Dan C. Rinnert 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose
  
  Do it yourself ice kits were a big flop too.
  
  Selling hamsters and gerbils online didn't work out well either.
  
  Apparently, they chew through cardboard.
  
  The post office begged me to stop.
  
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- Mister Dave 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose
  
  Do it yourself ice kits were a big flop too.
  
  You beat me to it EBR
  
  I sold ice sculptures over the internet...I guess paypal disputes for 'item not as described'. Who would have guessed ice melts even over the internet.
  
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bretski 14 years ago

Well, I had been studying for a long time about Internet Marketing. I had bought a couple of courses and tried what they said but I found very little success in selling these "widgets". Everybody talked about how well they would sell if I just followed their examples but I made exactly $0 from all my hard work of trying to sell widgets.

I felt abused, hurt and dismayed from my months of hard work with no results. So I contacted the vendors that sold me these courses and asked for a refund. They told me that I should box up my computer and ship it to them. I figured that it must be a problem with my computer also so I kindly obliged.

Now, here I sit typing this out on a Commodore 64. Thank God I still have my AOL dialup though!

I'm ready to learn anew... Hey! What's that? Maybe I'll click on the links in your sig and find out how to make money on the interwebs!
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- Dan C. Rinnert 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by bretski
  
  They told me that I should box up my computer and ship it to them. I figured that it must be a problem with my computer also so I kindly obliged.
  
  I've had that happen to me too. I figured it was another scam, so I ignored them. After another round of refund requests, they started offering me money for my computer. Big money.
  
  After that, I splurged on a big screen TV. 27"! So, here I am, typing this out on my WebTV.
  
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JDArchitecture

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jonat2005

Though many people strive to make money on the internet, but only a few have been successful so far.

Only a few? Interesting.

In your personal internet business journey, what internet business have you tried without achieving success?

The ones I haven't launched.

And what do you think was the problem behind it.

Not making the transition from brain to web.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by JDArchitecture

Originally Posted by jonat2005

Though many people strive to make money on the internet, but only a few have been successful so far.

Only a few? Interesting.

JD. You have got to remember that people who have failed, think the rest of us are faking success.

After all, if they cannot succeed with an online business, it is highly doubtful that others could ever succeed with an online business.

So they only count those whom they know cannot be faking it.

It stands to reason that the reason I have not had a job in six years must be that I am making my wife support me.

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bretski 14 years ago

Originally Posted by tpw

It stands to reason that the reason I have not had a job in six years must be that I am making my wife support me.

I got to get me one of them wifes then... sure sounds a lot easier than trying to make money on the internet
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- Dan C. Rinnert 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by bretski
  
  I got to get me one of them wifes then... sure sounds a lot easier than trying to make money on the internet
  
  It ain't any easier finding one of them wives, not when eHarmony rejects you.
  
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  tpw 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert
  
  It ain't any easier finding one of them wives, not when eHarmony rejects you.
  
  I found mine in a Cracker Jack box.
  
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  bretski 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by tpw
  
  I found mine in a Cracker Jack box.
  
  Won't they chew their way out... like hamsters or gerbils or was yours in a state of suspended animation like our aforementioned gerbils and hamsters?
  
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  Dan C. Rinnert 14 years ago
  
  I grabbed business.com a long time ago, then I realized that was stupid since my business name wasn't Business. What a stupid, stupid name. I don't know what I was thinking.
  
  So, I never paid the bill that Network Solutions sent me. $70? What was I, made of money?
  
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  JohnMcCabe 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by tpw
  
  It stands to reason that the reason I have not had a job in six years must be that I am making my wife support me.
  
  So that's what they mean when they say "that Bill is a real go-getter"...
  
  Time for her to get off work, so he'd better go get'er.
  
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  Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert
  
  It ain't any easier finding one of them wives, not when eHarmony rejects you.
  
  Originally Posted by tpw
  
  I found mine in a Cracker Jack box.
  
  They too can chew their way out of boxes. :p
  
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  bretski 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert
  
  It ain't any easier finding one of them wives, not when eHarmony rejects you.
  
  Yeah, that eHarmony banning still is a bit of a black mark on my record...
  
  But back on topic!
  
  Maybe if we froze the hamsters and gerbil and put them in a state of cryogenic suspension? Maybe that would solve the whole problem of them chewing out of the boxes? Want to do a JV?
  
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- VanessaB 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by bretski
  
  I got to get me one of them wifes then... sure sounds a lot easier than trying to make money on the internet
  
  BRET!!! How dare you call me 'easy'?!
  
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  bretski 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by DanielleS
  
  BRET!!! How dare you call me 'easy'?!
  
  Easy on the eyes baby... easy on the eyes
  
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VanessaB 14 years ago

Porn. Tried selling it online, but I couldn't figure out where to put the VHS tapes into the computer.
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JDArchitecture 14 years ago

Originally Posted by tpw

It stands to reason that the reason I have not had a job in six years must be that I am making my wife support me.

I must be damned good at faking it. Just last night I told my wife she could quite her job... And she actually believed me!

Oh, oh. Anyone have that amway link handy?
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Ben Armstrong

14 years ago

Originally Posted by tpw

JD. You have got to remember that people who have failed, think the rest of us are faking success.

I realize the term 'failure' is very subjective, but are you saying you've never failed at anything you've done online?

And I'm not trying to be clever here. I just assumed that even the most successful Internet Marketers would have failed at something, at some stage in their online endeavors.

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tpw

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ben Armstrong

I realize the term 'failure' is very subjective, but are you saying you've never failed at anything you've done online?

And I'm not trying to be clever here. I just assumed that even the most successful Internet Marketers would have failed at something, at some stage in their online endeavors.

I should have phrased it as, "are failing".

Not to be cute or clever, I have never said that I have never failed.

In fact the truth would be I fail all the time, but I get up off my ass and keep climbing...

So many folks in this forum are happy to fall down, then whine about their failure, never learning the important lessons that come with failure.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by BIG Mike

The difference with Internet Marketers, especially newer ones, is that they allow their egos/emotions to get in the way of looking at their results objectively. This results in what I consider to be the only true failure, which is to stop trying.

Following this line, most new Internet Marketers have delusions of adequacy in the skill department.

How many newbies complain that their content is 'high quality' only to show examples riddled with spelling and grammar errors? How many do things 'because so-and-so does it and he makes a lot more money than me' without pausing to understand why so-and-so did whatever it was? I could go on, but the point isn't to bash new folks.

And how many will turn around and blame some gooroo for their lack of skill or insight?

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bretski 14 years ago

All the above is true and it is more than just trying to put a positive spin on what many might perceive as failure by saying "I learned what didn't work"... but at least by TRYING you win. Sitting for weeks on end not doing anything other than reading about the "how" of how to make money online is an epic fail. By simply doing something, even if it's complete crap you put things in motion that will lead to success.

Ok... enough serious stuff for me for today... OH! And Bill... nobody ever accused you of being either "cute of clever"... BURN!
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Ben Armstrong

14 years ago

Originally Posted by BIG Mike

I suspect the difference is that those who tend to be successful online (or off), have learned to embrace failure as a learning tool.

To me failure isn't subjective - something worked (satisfied all of the test criteria) or it didn't (satisfied some, but not all or none of the test criteria). Just ask any researcher/scientist about failure - it's expected, looked for and then used to reach a successful conclusion.

The difference with Internet Marketers, especially newer ones, is that they allow their egos/emotions to get in the way of looking at their results objectively. This results in what I consider to be the only true failure, which is to stop trying.

Not being clever either, but my wife likes to tell people I don't know how to fail. She's right - the ideas don't fail, but the process in getting them to work may involve a lot of failed experiments. None of that is ever wasted effort though - it's part of a process.

So my answer is that no, I've never failed at any one particular thing I've tried to do online. I've never "Not" made money in anything I've tried to do.

Excellent post.

Edison "failed" to make a working light bulb on all but his 1000th or so attempt.

When I said the term was subjective, I meant that it can mean different things to different people. As you've pointed out... some people personalize failure and make more meaning out of it than is useful to them. For example "I failed to make a sale with my last website", as opposed to "The strategy I used to make a sale on my last website failed".

The reason I like the premise of this thread so much is that I think many of us beginners have this misconception that everyone in here who makes a decent living did so by having some superior gift at IM from the outset. When in truth it probably undersells what many of the 'gurus' (I hate that term) went through to get where they are.

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Ben Armstrong 14 years ago

Originally Posted by JDArchitecture

Only a few? Interesting.

I assume he meant that very few people succeed compared to the number who make an attempt at internet businesses, and he'd be correct in that line of thinking.

Please be constructive here as people will learn from the responses.

I'll try and add to the multitude of valuable and insightful responses in here already ....

My first attempt at IM was as a clickbank affiliate using PPC.

I had my adwords account banned within 2 days.

My problem was taking bad advice from a 'guru'. Although I can't lay all the blame on someone else, in fact, I shoulder 100% of the blame...

I should have checked that everything I was being taught and was implementing was not against google's TOS. I didn't and I was punished for it.

It was a good learning experience though and probably worked out for the better as the path I'm travelling now is teaching me a lot more than I would have learned from those methods.

I'm sure even the guys on here bringing in the big dollars would have made at least a few mistakes and stuff ups along the way.

It would be nice of them to share their stories too.
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Mister Dave

14 years ago

I had one of the first porn sites in the 1990's. 'sex.com' Porn never did take off so im glad i sold it for $5.

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14 years ago

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Mister Dave

14 years ago

On a more serious note.

Most people will fail 95% of the time online.

It is the 5% who keep trying that succeed.

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bretski 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mister Dave

It is the 5% who keep trying that succeed.

Unless their sig file leads to some sort of "FREE" download site where you have to play a game or some other sort of CPA offer to supposedly download their report.
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Dan C. Rinnert 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mister Dave

On a more serious note.

Most people will fail 95% of the time online.

It is the 5% who keep trying that succeed.

Unfortunately, 67% of statistics are made up on the spot, but only 84% of the time.
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  Unfortunately, 67% of statistics are made up on the spot, but only 84% of the time.
  
  92% of posters disappear after asking a question.
  
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  Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert
  
  I started an online petting zoo, but had to shut that down after lawsuit threats from people who had gotten electrocuted by their computers.
  
  The same thing happened to me with my online 'pick your own fruit' stand .
  
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  JDArchitecture 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert
  
  I started an online petting zoo, but had to shut that down after lawsuit threats from people who had gotten electrocuted by their computers.
  
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Dwight Anthony

14 years ago

Definitely never buy one of those da*n cookie cutter sites. I lost out big time on one of those some time ago.

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Dan C. Rinnert 14 years ago

Originally Posted by danthony

Definitely never buy one of those da*n cookie cutter sites. I lost out big time on one of those some time ago.

Don't I know it. With the economy such that it is, people are settling for plain old round cookies instead of buying cookie cutters to make them in different shapes.

I feel sorry for this generation of kids that may never see fun shaped homemade cookies.
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14 years ago

I started a website for dyslexics but they could never find the site.

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VanessaB 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mister Dave

I started a website for dyslexics but they could never find the site.

I tried an Alzheimer's site, but no one could remember the link.
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  I tried an Alzheimer's site, but no one could remember the link.
  
  I tried selling sieves.
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14 years ago

I haven't given up on any of my online business lines yet, so I can't say I consider any of them a failure.

I'll be sure and update you if that changes.

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tpw

14 years ago

My biggest failure was when I started SpankMyWifesHiney.com, and she spanked mine.

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14 years ago

i just can't make it with Amazon.com i've tried several times and made almost zero results,actually i'm looking for a coach to help me on this,any recomendations?

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HelpingYouBeAnExpert 14 years ago

I tried to sell a sure push a button make money and gave a million dollar guarantee if you don't make a million dollars in one hour after you push the button I give you 10,000 times your money back and it was only 3 easy payments of $47. But people where to smart to buy a get rich scheme so I failed.
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  I tried an Alzheimer's site, but no one could remember the link.
  
  Should have done it before you got it, silly.
  
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  My made up factoid: 5% of the people do 95% of the work so they deserve 95% of the money.
  
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  Back in the early days of the Internet, I started a bull**** delivery business.
  
  I was young and naive and forgot to trademark my product.
  
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  I decided there was no money in bull**** after all and quit the business.
  
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Dan C. Rinnert

14 years ago

Originally Posted by nagidr

i just can't make it with Amazon.com i've tried several times and made almost zero results,actually i'm looking for a coach to help me on this,any recomendations?

I tried it for a few hours, but then I got a nasty eMail from Jeff Bezos demanding his domain name back.

He threatened to cancel my Amazon Prime account, so I gave him his domain back right away.

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14 years ago

I tried posing in the nude, but the director told me that no one was searching pasty white boys online, and I was canned immediately.

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Dan C. Rinnert

14 years ago

Someone once advised me to start a porn website--said that was where the big money was online.

He suggested that I find a bunch of foxes, photograph them in the nude, and charge a monthly subscription fee to the site.

It didn't work out well at all. Apparently, dogs don't have credit cards.

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Kay King

14 years ago

I decided there was no money in bull**** after all and quit the business.

Tina - You quit too soon. Should have taken your biz offline. My #2 son had a "virtual BS business" and made money with it.

Originally, he sold little paper bags of ginkgo berries to kids for Halloween - $1 a bag and he sold out every time. Then he branched out to gag gift ginkgo bags to local college fraternities.

Ginkgo berries smell just like very strong, fresh dog poop - and so does your shoe if you step on them. Eventually, I made him close his business due to the fragrance of his storage facility (my garage).

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Ginkgo berries smell just like very strong, fresh dog poop - and so does your shoe if you step on them. Eventually, I made him close his business due to the fragrance of his storage facility (my garage).

Geez. Parents and government... always trying to squash the entrepreneurial spirit.

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fudiloveties

14 years ago

for me ,selling cufflinks on ebay is not successful. I have not made any sale yet

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by fudiloveties

for me ,selling cufflinks on ebay is not successful. I have not made any sale yet

You have to learn to target your audience with your sig links. Internet marketers, for example, aren't interested in cufflinks. They don't wear suits. They just sit around in their underwear and make more money before 9:00 a.m. than most people make all day.

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bretski

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

You have to learn to target your audience with your sig links. Internet marketers, for example, aren't interested in cufflinks. They don't wear suits. They just sit around in their underwear

That's scary! Is my webcam on or something? Can you see me? Are you really Santa, Dan?

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Dan C. Rinnert 14 years ago

Originally Posted by bretski

That's scary! Is my webcam on or something? Can you see me? Are you really Santa, Dan?

Watch it. I'm making a list.
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- tpw 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert
  
  Watch it. I'm making a list.
  
  He leaves the "checking it twice" for his elves...
  
  Be sure to send me the backup Dan...
  
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jparo1000 14 years ago

I don't have success in weight loss product.
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tpw

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

You have to learn to target your audience with your sig links. Internet marketers, for example, aren't interested in cufflinks. They don't wear suits. They just sit around in their underwear and make more money before 9:00 a.m. than most people make all day.

Underwear?!? Speak for yourself...

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WebPen

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

You have to learn to target your audience with your sig links. Internet marketers, for example, aren't interested in cufflinks. They don't wear suits. They just sit around in their underwear and make more money before 9:00 a.m. than most people make all day.

9am? What a slacker.

By 9am I've sailed halfway around my private tropical island with the 5 most beautiful women you can ever hope for.

In my pajamas.

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tpw

14 years ago

Originally Posted by AYoungMillionaire

9am? What a slacker.

By 9am I've sailed halfway around my private tropical island with the 5 most beautiful women you can ever hope for.

In my pajamas.

I am from Oklahoma. I have to settle for sheep.

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Ben Armstrong

14 years ago

I had a website where I'd punch myself in the crotch on webcam 24/7.

Probably should have monetized it somehow

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WebPen

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ben Armstrong

I had a website where I'd punch myself in the crotch on webcam 24/7.

Probably should have monetized it somehow

Dude people would pay CRAZY money to see that! People getting hurt is always a seller.

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tpw

14 years ago

Originally Posted by AYoungMillionaire

Originally Posted by Ben Armstrong

I had a website where I'd punch myself in the crotch on webcam 24/7.

Probably should have monetized it somehow

Dude people would pay CRAZY money to see that! People getting hurt is always a seller.

I don't care if Ben punches himself in the balls on camera, but I can think of a few people that I would pay to see that happen to, on continuous loop.

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Justin Newcastle

14 years ago

My first failed online venture was an eBook on How To Read Music.
Do I hear you laughing?
The flaws in this idea are painfully obvious aren't they?
In my newbie excitement, I was blissfully blind.
Since then I've been carefully crafting a system to choose profitable niches.

Is learning to read music an urgent problem (for most people) on par with say, curing their hemorrhoids or marrying the girl of their dreams? Did I hear you say NO?
Are people willing to pay $27 for a pdf book from a suspicious website on how to read music when they could buy a copy of masterpiece on the subject on Amazon for a few dollars or buy fun training software for the same price? Hell No.
Do people (besides nerds like me) get pumped up thinking about learning to read music? Do they lie in bed at night and fantasize about their future proficiency? Nope.
Are there other profitable products on reading music on Clickbank and Google Adwords? Practically none.
Are there active forums and blogs dedicated to learning to read music? Very few.

I was doomed from the start.
And these are just some of the flaws in the market itself. I didn't mention the weak website and the crappy copy because it's irrelevant. I lost before I started because I was barking up the wrong tree. If I considered even one of the marketing questions above before I dove in, I could have saved myself two months of drudgery banging out that book.
But I'm thankful for the experience. I invested just a couple hundred dollars and the education I received in return was priceless...that's a nice ROI. That's more than I could expect from a single course at my school which costs over 3K.

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blillard

14 years ago

I tired ewhoring when I first started lol. I got bored trying to seduce men.

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bretski 14 years ago

One time I tried selling NFL tshirts online... of course, I did it when it wasn't football season. My main method was to spam forums. People didn't like me and I got banned right away... very sad
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VanessaB 14 years ago

I tried to sell my kids on ebay.

Then I got a visit from the state...
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- Dan C. Rinnert 14 years ago
  
  I tried to start a sweatshop using kids I bought on eBay.
  
  Didn't work out. No one buys sweat.
  
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  VanessaB 14 years ago
  
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  I tried to start a sweatshop using kids I bought on eBay.
  
  Didn't work out. No one buys sweat.
  
  I also tried selling breast milk on ebay, but ebay put the kibosh on that real quick.
  
  They also didn't look too fondly of my idea of selling a kidney either...
  
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  I tried to sell kidney stones, but they are hard to come by.
  
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  JohnMcCabe 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert
  
  I tried to start a sweatshop using kids I bought on eBay.
  
  Didn't work out. No one buys sweat.
  
  I'm surprised, since buying it is so much easier than making your own.
  
  Maybe if you'd pitched it to IMers as "outsourcing sweat"...
  
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dagaul101

14 years ago

Going into Internet Marketing with simply the aim of making money when you don't enjoy what you do can make it a hard slug

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14 years ago

PPC was awful in my case...

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furryCuds1z

14 years ago

I tried to sell acne medicine but it was too competitive. Didn't rank well.

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tpw 14 years ago

Originally Posted by furryCuds1z

I tried to sell acne medicine but it was too competitive. Didn't rank well.

Dare I suggest that if you fail to rank in the search engines that there are other ways to get traffic for your websites?

You should never fail, simply because you could not rank in Google.

While Google is big, it is not the only source of traffic online.
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dagaul101

14 years ago

I think getting involved in selling of products when you can't defend said product is a big mistake, consumers can easily see you just want the sale and don't care about anything else

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