LOL @ Checking Out IM "Gurus" Houses On Google Earth!

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Hey guys,

Just thought I would share something a little funny, a lot of the self proclaimed "gurus" at internet marketing will send you email after email (mostly landing in your junk box).

But isn't it funny when you see them say "follow the exact formula I am sharing here and you will be a millionaire!" - Then you check out their address from their PayPal address, and well, why would a millionaire own a pretty average house or flat?

HAHA

Not always the case but worth it to check if they are the real deal!
#off topic forum #checking #earth #google #gurus #houses #lol
  • I think that's because they are smart people. I know a few millionaires who live the same way. Big flashy houses and toys are totally overrated.
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    • We've been down this road before and I'm sick of it.

      I live in a $130,000 home and quite content with it.

      Why do I need more just because I can afford it? For what? For 2 people? How
      many rooms could we possibly need?

      Plus, I hate moving. I'd rather live in a ditch than have to pack up all this
      sh*t and move.

      Plus, most of the money I make goes towards things that have nothing to do
      with the size of my home, such as my home recording studio that I have
      spent 10s of thousands of dollars on or on my Magic The Gathering collection
      which is now about 35,000 cards and features Black Lotus and the whole
      power 9 collection.

      Please, don't judge the "gurus" by the size of their homes.

      It would be the same as judging a man by the size of his penis.

      Just because it's big doesn't mean he knows how to use it.
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  • I agree with Steve. I've had the big house, pool, etc., but always low on liquidity. Felt awful. Now I've got smaller digs, spend less money and got more in the bank. Feel much better.

    These are not the times to be putting money into expensive fixed assets. I'd much rather see more CDs in my bank.
  • hahaha that is so hilarious dan, not saying guru are liars but man i do get tonne of rubbish in my junk mail box every day.
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    • Do you like my "house"?

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  • Good timing. I'm in the process of sending most of them there because that's all they are: total garbage email that is nothing but pure spam. This was prompted after getting the same spam e-mail from the same jack off who titles each e-mail "HELP NEEDED" and then repeats his same tired line, with a link to whatever 20 page squeeze he's promoting that day. Junk mail is too kind. Its really more deserving of a phishing tag as it reminds me of those lame Nigerian scam e-mails that were going around for a few years before better spam filters weaned them out completely.

    If this type of crap is the best a "Guru" can pull off with his list, then "Guru" is a very over-rated and misused title. And I suspect the house you are seeing is the one owned by their parents while they dwell in the basement down below.

    Note that I'm not lumping them all into the same category (nor has the OP). But until proven otherwise, I'm going to continue to assume that most are posers.

    -Spyder
  • Hmm... perception is reality man, so I can kind of see this to a point. However, what if made $1000+ online every month, lived in a large beautiful house, but had three room-mates? What would you think then? Just because one makes money online (or through a J.O.B) doesn't mean they are supposed to spend money frivolously.

    Guru: An influential teacher or popular expert.

    Where exactly does it say in the definition that there is a housing or monetary requirement?

    The expectation that Guru's are supposed to live a Rock star life style is the biggest misconception about our industry. Hell for me, Internet Marketing is just side income. Mad money of sorts--so that I don't have to rely on credit cards.

    Not saying I'm a guru, but I am well versed with many concepts.

    There is no denying that many people make money online by selling products on how to make money online, however, there are also some of us that are trying to build legitimate businesses (or in my case just make more money per month).

    Regardless, I use a PO Box for my PayPal account, so have fun finding me!
  • Read "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" and you'll quickly find out why a house is not always an "asset" or something you should put a ton of money into.
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    • Don't need a book, just look at the housing market.
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  • Instead of guru houses, how about some guru horses?

    ‪Quick Draw Mcgraw-Bow Wow Bandit‬‏ - YouTube
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  • Security - Stalker!!!!!

    j/k - if you want a good description explanation of real wealth in America then read The Millionaire Next Door by Thomas Stanley and William Danko. A giant house and fancy cars do not always indicate great wealth....

    --Jack
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    • I've got two friends that are millionaires.
      You couldn't tell by looking at them or their properties that they had a quarter let alone a million bucks.

  • I'm sure you've heard the expression, "You can't judge a book buy its cover." That applies to people and their houses, too.

    A few decades ago I used to be part of a team that provided security for a former Wisconsin governor. He was seriously rich. I made something like $12 an hour. My house was nicer than his, IMO.

    Of course, he also had a winter home in the south, a cabin on a lake up north, and who knows what else. You'd never know that from Google Earth. The Millionaire Next Door that Jack Tackett recommended will paint a much better picture of what the average millionaire is like. Hint: most are not about a lavish lifestyle.
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    • I swear to God I'm going to do a free WSO called



      Inside the PDF will be one screenshot showing an UNSUBSCRIBE link.

      Sheeesh.
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  • And how much money did doing that make you?

    For your ballin' house?
  • This is a small minded thread to post. I know a couple of multi millionaires that live in 150k homes... Jokes on the OP here. I live in a 260k one, and its beautiful enough inside to live the rest of my life in, unless I change my mind and want something different.

    A 260k home where I live would cost a million probably on the west coast... go ahead and google me if you want to be an idiot... 4203 cherokee rd rogers arkansas.

    2200 square feet, and very ample and beautiful, with all the ammenities... granite counter tops...stone and wood floors... the whole deal. Vaulted cielings...

    You dont have to have a million dollar home to have a GREAT home that makes you happy....

    Like Steve W... I get sick of this small minded subject. Its very immature to post things like this.

    Ps. In this day and age, if a person can even afford a 100k home or a 50k one, and they do it ALL from working for themselves, then they are smarter than the people "gawking at them" and wishing they could figure out how to work for themselves without a boss... I give anyone one props who can make a living working for themselves PERIOD, instead of depending on a boss for their creation.

    Check them oput to see if they are the "real deal"? Lol... That thought process is soo "high school".
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    • You really should cover up faster getting out of the shower there.... John

      I may be blind for life.
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  • Haha settle down guys

    This was just meant to be a short amusing observation, in no way am I trying to generalize or stereotype anyone.

    If I was a millionaire I know I wouldn't get there by buying fast cars and big houses lol.

    I think IM is about living a comfortable and fulfilling lifestyle not bound by time or space. That's as simple as it gets
  • It's unfortunate but many IM still believe in the "Fake it till you claim it" school
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    • If they're in the IM niche that's an easy (though not terribly original or creative) approach to take that lends itself to that niche.

      That's what I like about self-help niches (or one of the things): I'm not selling prosperity. I keep it authentic and real, and stick to subjects I know that are also of high commercial intent, so no faking it is needed. There is also something distasteful about that ethically and from the POV of karma.

      I agree with the many others who've stated their modest homes are meaningless in terms of any kind of reflection on their income. If anything it tells me they're people of high self-esteem who don't feel the need to prove anything to anyone through superficial money flashing.

      And I take the opposite POV toward those who "proof" their pitch with pictures of sports cars, yachts, or luxury mansions that used only for promoting their pitch. Comparisons to ad copy for big business could me made but doesn't resonate with me and I don't believe the comparison valid.

      IMHO someone who resorts to using fake possessions to proof their pitch about their millions of income they make and as proof of the glamorous lifestyle that they are not in fact leading, they are one or more of the following:

      1) pathological narcissists;
      2) of very low self-esteem/self-worth
      3) pitifully desperate in a way that earns no pity from me;
      4) morally and/or intellectually bankrupt

      Harsh? Maybe. Its behaviour I would associate with fleecing a widow out of her social security on a BS promise without a second thought, so if its harsh I pretty much don't care. Its behaviour that gives IM a bad name and reflects on everyone else who isn't resorting to these tactics.

      -Spyder
  • It's according to the person mate.

    I have a friend that make more than $10k per month from IM, he just rent apartment. he don't want to buy any cars or motorcycle, just using taxi when he want to go.

    So, according to the people mate.
  • First of all I think stalkers are creepy - just because someone has some celebrity it doesn't mean they aren't entitled to have privacy. People need to get a life and mind their own business.

    I'll bet plenty of people use a P.O.Box, or 'alternative' address, etc. on the Internet. If not I bet they are kicking themselves now with Google Earth and other things that are a complete invasion of privacy.

    It is also entirely possible that even millionaires will live in average dwellings - most of the ones I have known are not extravagant or gawdy and I think that is one reason they have money - because they don't spend it like 'there is no tomorrow'. They lease out the good real estate, and see it as an investment or source of income. They continue to live frugally.

    In fact some I have known are rather 'cheap' - One guy who is a real estate millionaire I know, will drive all the way across town to get the generic diet soda - as if that extra quarter will make or break him.

    The point is people with money usually have investments and while they are worth millions 'on paper' (property,etc) it doesn't mean they have lots of 'liquid' income and even if they do they don't spend it necessarily.

    Either way - if they buy toys or not - it is their business - having a bunch of stuff doesn't mean anything either way - the toys you see may be gotten by credit, mortgages, loans, etc and they are in debt up to their ears. This is not wealth.

    So as they say 'you can't judge a book by its cover'.
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    • Google has become a vast and powerful entity that permeates society, with great power and influence, setting its arbitrary rules, accountable to no one. It invades privacy collecting photos of your home or workplace for anyone to see (including stalkers, serial killers, perverts), scoffs at copyright such as harvesting copyright images. It can make or break most internet marketers.
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    • I use WHOIS GUARD on the domains I buy from Name Cheap. I'm in the process of moving and my address is changing to a P.O. Box because there's no other mail delivery there (small town). Its not a permanent move, but the P.O. Box mail delivery system will follow me for exactly that reason.

      No celebrity factor here, its just the fact that there are too many freaks with issues online (and offline) to provide them a map and instructions to where I live. In addictions I saw enough psychopathic personalty types (not because addicts are psychopaths, but because psychopaths are more likely to develop substance abuse issues and wind up in treatment facilities... or prison... and usually back and forth from one to the other) to know the risks involved.

      Maybe they are slight, but we took them serious enough there at we had a no last name policy, and no schedule or contact information disclosure policy. Management was the exception, because they did just that - manage.

      The OP's intent was harmless enough, but read the news and you'll see how readily some develop these obsessions over things that make absolutely no sense to anyone but them - and which they take deadly serious (and sometimes to that degree, while other times short of it while still playing enough havoc to make it worthwhile to pre-emptively nip it in the bud).

      -Spyder
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  • @ Thunderbird and Road Dog,

    Its great that we have reached such technical sophistication... That doesnt mean we should be allowed to use it though, randomly. I could pat the guy on the back that made the atom Bomb, and say "Wow, you really forwarded technology, its good that we know this can exist...", But that doesnt mean everyone should have one in their home at their disposal.

    Google needs to be regulated. Im sure they are responsible for more stalkers than we can imagine. Talk about selling ammo to the enemy!

    Makes you want to build a house in the woods like Kay!
  • The world loves to judge a person by the type of car they drive, their house or their clothes. This is not a good way to look at other people as some of the richest people don't show it. Why do they need to show it off? Quite the opposite ... the people you see with the flashy cars and houses usually have 100k in debt and $0 in the bank.
  • Agree with everyone re what success means etc - I would rather stay cash than flash and more likely to keep re-investing in relatively successful offline business. However there are still those who wrap their sales copy in fake it until you make it type sales copy..need to be aware these guys who have only made money telling others how t make money. There again if you simply pay me $1million bucks tonight I will show you a way of getting $1m from a forum post....Amusing thread though
  • While I agree with a lot of sentiments here, it is important not to forget that

    There is a very strong correlation between income and the type of housing that once lives in

    It is true that people with high incomes may choose to live in ordinary housing. But still there are limits. You are not going to see Warren Buffet living in a slum.

    But it is very rare for people with low incomes to live in an expensive house unless they are in the process of bankruptcy.

    Therefore the fact that one lives in an ordinary may not mean that much, but living in a rich neighborhood is likely to mean something.

    The truth of the matter is that appearances count and many people do look at this. Therefore you must be very careful in how you present yourself or your business.
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    • Derek, the only truth in this is in the extreme examples. No, you won't find Bill Gates living in a slum, nor will you find someone getting by on 15k a year living in a McMansion. But generalizing beyond that is really not a good idea.

      Fact: many extremely rich people are extremely thrifty. None of their money is on display because its invested in portfolio you can't see from the car they drive or the house they build.

      Fact: many people in Western nations (I'm not going to say many people in the USA because its not unique to the US by any stretch) use flashy displays of wealth to prop up their own ego. Or because they're poor with money management, or don't realize the difference between wealth building and superficial displays of wealth to impress friends, neighbours, people they're seeking to attract, or for a whole other variety of reasons. What do you think sparked the S&L crisis? It wasn't just relaxed lending rules, it was the many people willing to borrow far beyond their means to lead (display) a lifestyle they truly couldn't afford.

      Its a flawed line of reasoning to assume, outside the extremes, that there is "a strong correlation" between income and flashy displays of wealth.

      And one final point: correlation is a statistical term that has use in different types of research as a tool to apply an inference from research to test a hypothesis. The very first thing you learn about correlation is that correlation != causation. You are using stereotypes and empty statments wrapped around a statistical term which only demonstrates you shouldn't be using words whose meaning you have no grasp on as a basis to stereotype.

      Note that when you put your statement in bold like that then you really catch attention - it may not be what you had in mind, but there it is.

      -Spyder
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    • It is evidence in a certain direction, yes, but foreclosures on expensive homes has been on the rise. A friend of mine used to be a bodyguard for wealthy and powerful people. More than once, he saw apparently wealthy people lose everything in one fell swoop, just by getting fired. They were living pay check to pay check to maintain their exorbitant lifestyles.
    • It can mean something, but it often doesn't.

      At my last house the neighbor across my backyard fence was a multi-millionaire, but you'd never know it to talk to him or see his house. He was (he passed on about a year ago) one of the biggest farmers in the state. Farmers don't flaunt their wealth. He lived in an average house in an average neighborhood.

      I wouldn't be surprised if one of my current neighbors is a millionaire. He was born and raised in the house he lives in, inherited it from his parents so he's never had to make house payments. He's in his eighties and owns a funeral home and has for decades. He's got money, but his house is worth about 80k, far less than mine. A half a block away is a 4-story multi-million dollar mansion. Next door to it is a run-down apartment house I'd guess is worth about 40k.

      Again, we can't judge a book by it's cover. That applies to people, the homes they own, and the neighborhoods they live in. There are just too many unknown factors. Rich neighborhoods are often populated with many home owners in debt up to their eyeballs because they wanted a lifestyle they can't afford.
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    Another story about a guy I worked with.

    The guy was an electrican by trade, he flipped houses in the 80's on the side, before it got popular.

    This guy was very modest in how he spent his money. He saved everything he made in flipping old houses, & bought about 20 acres on the edge of town.

    He paid about $120,000 to have a new street built.

    Once he built the street (outsourced) he built a new house for his family that would also act as a model home for the new houses he would build on his street.

    That new street had 36 houses on it!

    He broke even on all expenses & paid for his own house (model home) after selling only 4 houses on his new street.

    My point here is, he was a millionaire before he sold 1/2 the new homes on his street.

    The model home was worth maybe $130,000 back in the 80's when it was new.

    If you didn't know this guy personally, & know his story, you would never know he was a millionaire, or at one time he owned the entire neighborhood (every single home).

    Just an average guy that worked hard & was smart about how he spent his money. His best vehicle was a work truck, you know, the kind with little doors all over the sides of the truck bed.
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  • I don't really have a fixed address, so mine is set to my friends place that gets my mail for me... So she needs to get her act together so it looks like I have a nicer place!
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  • Nice thread dadamson !

    Made WF members think and comment on something non-virtual
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    • But perhaps that's not a good analogy. Buffet lives in the same stucco house he's lived in for 40+ years.
  • It's true looks can be deceiving...I have a friend in car sales - One time a scruffy looking guy in overalls came in to look at a basic truck - no frills - The city sales guy blew him off...
    My friend knew right away what he was there for - and sold him a fleet of 12 trucks for his ranch.
  • Comic sans? -Why?
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    • Because I wanted to...??? Here, I posted in Verdana if that makes you happy
  • Thanks. My eyes feel a lot better.
  • You really should go check out the lifestyle of Warren Buffet.


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