Bad Chest Pains Last Night - Smoking

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In bed, severe tightening all aound my chest, couldn't breathe properly. Not sure... possible small 'heart attack murmur'?

Can only be down to smoking this past 16 years. Woke up, smoked one last one with my cup of tea, an hour later still on my mind thinking perhaps that was a warning shot over my bow - threw my tobacco in the trash and threw away all of my smoking paraphernalia 'crutches'.

No more little cancer sticks for me. High levels of crankiness to follow no doubt in the coming days and weeks. Preferable to sticking another one of those little blighters in my mouth. I'm sick of them.

Shook me up a bit those chest pains this morning, can still feel them slightly now. Tired of the breathlessness too.

From now on, I'm a non smoker. My commitment, contract with myself.

Updates, reports, non-smoking diary of progress to follow below...
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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    Here's something that may help. : )

    http://www.quitsmokingsupport.com/benefits.htm

    (Scroll down to see the immediate and long term benefits of stopping smoking.)

    Cheers.
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  • Profile picture of the author ThomM
    Sounds like the Pericardial Effusion that hit me last May.
    I was smoking two packs a day when it happened. I didn't quit smoking yet, but I've cut down to a pack and will continue to cut down till I'm at 5 cigs. a day and will conceder quiting from there.
    I also started taking Omega 3 with D3 and of course started back up drinking ACV in spring water at 2 teaspoons in 16 oz. of water with a little Agave Nectar added for sweetness.
    The AVC will lower your blood pressure and take care of the bad cholesterol, among other things.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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      Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

      Sounds like the Pericardial Effusion that hit me last May.
      I was smoking two packs a day when it happened. I didn't quit smoking yet, but I've cut down to a pack and will continue to cut down till I'm at 5 cigs. a day and will conceder quiting from there.
      I also started taking Omega 3 with D3 and of course started back up drinking ACV in spring water at 2 teaspoons in 16 oz. of water with a little Agave Nectar added for sweetness.
      The AVC will lower your blood pressure and take care of the bad cholesterol, among other things.
      Just thinking about all of that stresses me out Thom.

      I'm going cold turkey. Simple as that. Otherwise it's just more crutches.

      We don't need special treatment. We / I just need to stop doing what is harmful to our mind, body and spirit.

      Oh dear, I can already feel the crankiness creeping in.

      I'm going for a walk on the beach just up the road from here, need some fresh air in my lungs...

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      • Profile picture of the author ThomM
        Originally Posted by Pete Walker View Post

        Just thinking about all of that stresses me out Thom.

        I'm going cold turkey. Simple as that. Otherwise it's just more crutches.

        We don't need special treatment. We / I just need to stop doing what is harmful to our mind, body and spirit.

        Oh dear, I can already feel the crankiness creeping in.

        I'm going for a walk on the beach just up the road from here, need some fresh air in my lungs...

        I understand what you're saying Pete. Bottom line is you have to do what works for you. What I talked about with the Omega 3, D3, and AVC is not to help quit smoking, but to strengthen the body and heart. In a way it will help you quit though, the healthier you are the harder it is to smoke.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lori Kelly
    Pete, sorry to hear about that. Maybe you can try to patch, gum, or the electronic cigarettes.

    Crankiness will no doubt follow in the coming days. That's okay. We'll tolerate it. It is for a good cause.

    Good luck and stay strong! You can do this!
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    • Profile picture of the author scrofford
      Originally Posted by Lori Kelly View Post

      Pete, sorry to hear about that. Maybe you can try to patch, gum, or the electronic cigarettes.

      Crankiness will no doubt follow in the coming days. That's okay. We'll tolerate it. It is for a good cause.

      Good luck and stay strong! You can do this!
      If he is having chest pain from smoking, the last thing he needs is the patch or gum because it's full of nicotine just like cigarettes, which tightens the arteries and veins and makes the heart have to work harder. OP you should probably go get checked out by a doctor.
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      • Profile picture of the author DesignontheGrind
        For the love of pete get to a doctor. Get an EKG done STAT.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
    Hey Pete. I hope you get better soon. We take life for granted and abuse our bodies with too much food, smoking, drinking and little or no exercise. We all are guilty of this but applying these simple daily routines will change your life:

    1. Take half an hour out and admire nature - trees, sea, fields, featured birds, wildfire.

    2. Go for a long walks

    3. Eat more vegetables, fruits, wheat, yogurt. Cut down on meat.

    4. Watch comedy films.

    5. Cut down on IM by a few hours

    6. Get a dog to motivate you to go for walks

    7. Never argue

    8. Forgive your mother-in-law

    9. Make new friends

    10. And finally Appreciate each day. ''Add life to days NOT days to life''

    My yoga teacher taught me that and has really helped me.

    Cheers

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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      I wish you very well with it, Pete, and look forward to the updates.

      My question is: are you going to have to change your email address to "nonsmokinghotcopy"? :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
    Pete, I wish you the best. Until a little over a year ago, I smoked for about as long as you did and I had the occasional chest pains that scared the **** out of me. I haven't had one since I quit.
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  • Profile picture of the author Roaddog
    What I do is stop smoking during the day first, your already then quitting the hardest 'one' to quit, which is the first one in the morning.

    Then to be able to sleep...have 3-4 towards bed time, that way helping you rest and help with the crankiness.

    Subjecting yourself to all the absolute 'cold turkey' stress isn't good for ya either.


    That's worked for me like 43 times...:p
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  • Profile picture of the author dlawhh
    You can always invest in an ecig, still get the nicotine without the extra stuff which tends to cause health issues down the road. I stopped after almost 19 years and I am coming up on my 2 year smoke free mark. Good luck, its not an easy battle (but it can be done)!
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  • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
    Originally Posted by Pete Walker View Post

    In bed, severe tightening all aound my chest, couldn't breathe properly. Not sure... possible small 'heart attack murmur'?

    Can only be down to smoking this past 16 years. Woke up, smoked one last one with my cup of tea, an hour later still on my mind thinking perhaps that was a warning shot over my bow - threw my tobacco in the trash and threw away all of my smoking paraphernalia 'crutches'.

    No more little cancer sticks for me. High levels of crankiness to follow no doubt in the coming days and weeks. Preferable to sticking another one of those little blighters in my mouth. I'm sick of them.

    Shook me up a bit those chest pains this morning, can still feel them slightly now. Tired of the breathlessness too.

    From now on, I'm a non smoker. My commitment, contract with myself.

    Updates, reports, non-smoking diary of progress to follow below...
    Simplistic answer to a complex problem

    As they say on TV, if pain persists see a doctor
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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      Originally Posted by oncewerewarriors View Post

      Simplistic answer to a complex problem

      As they say on TV, if pain persists see a doctor
      It's my own silly fault, I'm not wasting the doctors time or tax payers money for something that's my own fault.

      No way am I going to see a doctor. Typical British guy, avoid those guys like the plague. Just need to get on with it and deal with it.

      Several hours in, feeling great so far. Rewiring my syntaxes as we speak, turning receptors off and switching other valves on. Copywriting inside my braincells. Seems to be working fine so far.
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      • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
        Originally Posted by Pete Walker View Post

        It's my own silly fault, I'm not wasting the doctors time or tax payers money for something that's my own fault.

        No way am I going to see a doctor. Typical British guy, avoid those guys like the plague. Just need to get on with it and deal with it.

        Several hours in, feeling great so far. Rewiring my syntaxes as we speak, turning receptors off and switching other valves on. Copywriting inside my braincells. Seems to be working fine so far.
        Good luck, but at least you have the godsend of socialised medicine as you deserve and need it.

        Maybe if i get a chest pain i might have to take up smoking?
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        • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
          I agree with Floyd. Go to the DR first to make sure all is well. My aunt had similar symptoms for a few days but didn't tell anyone till she heeled over.

          Lucky she survived her heart attack. But had she gone to the doctor when she was feeling chest pains the damage would have been less severe. She did quit smoking after that.
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      • Profile picture of the author Pauline60
        Originally Posted by Pete Walker View Post

        It's my own silly fault, I'm not wasting the doctors time or tax payers money for something that's my own fault.

        No way am I going to see a doctor. Typical British guy, avoid those guys like the plague. Just need to get on with it and deal with it.

        Several hours in, feeling great so far. Rewiring my syntaxes as we speak, turning receptors off and switching other valves on. Copywriting inside my braincells. Seems to be working fine so far.
        Pete - I admire your determination but if you are still having pain you MUST go to the doctor. That is why we have a health service and you are not wasting their time nor taxpayers money - that is what it is there for.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Pete, I hope you find this encouraging...

    I was up to two packs a day when I quit smoking. I quit cold turkey, too. The temptation to smoke was strong for a few days, then subsided dramatically. By a week's time I knew I had won the battle. You can do it.

    Hope you're feeling well now.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Pete - the urge to smoke starts to decrease in strength and frequency fairly quickly.

      It's not the nicotine withdrawal that's hardest - it's all those daily things you associate with lighting up. Change your habits a bit to avoid automatically reaching for cigs.

      Not much worthwhile is easy - but as another quitter I know you'll be happy you did it. Stick with it!

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      • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Pete - the urge to smoke starts to decrease in strength and frequency fairly quickly.

        It's not the nicotine withdrawal that's hardest - it's all those daily things you associate with lighting up. Change your habits a bit to avoid automatically reaching for cigs.

        Not much worthwhile is easy - but as another quitter I know you'll be happy you did it. Stick with it!

        kay
        Thanks everyone btw for your comments and encouragement.

        Kay... I can't automatically reach for anything. I saved nothing in reserve, just emptied the tobacco into the depths of one particularly large and very spiky plant in the garden. It's digestive system is probably still wondering what the hell has hit it.

        It is funny though, getting out of the office chair to go take a cigarette break only to realize that nope, you're now a non smokier.

        Spin around on the spot, mark the craving out of 10 on a scale of manageability (2-3), spin round again not used to this new pattern of behaviour, mutter a 'bother' under the breathe at the absurdity of your actions, grin, go the kitchen, make a cup of tea, go for a piddle, sit down and start writing again.

        I knew I was eccentric before but now I'm fully convinced I'm going stark staring bonkers.

        But it ain't gonna get the better of me. I'm pretty determined this time. I am going to do this and my sense of humor will pull me through.

        It's amazing actually the hold the chemicals in tobacco have on your mind, especially given the very harmful effects thrown into the equation. It is equally weird that these little cancer sticks are allowed to be sold in almost every shop worldwide. Given the harm they do, the cost to women and mens, children too their personal lives and health, it's astonishing that it's legal for them to be sold at all.

        Hmmmmm...
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
    Originally Posted by Pete Walker View Post

    In bed, severe tightening all aound my chest, couldn't breathe properly. Not sure... possible small 'heart attack murmur'?

    Can only be down to smoking this past 16 years. Woke up, smoked one last one with my cup of tea, an hour later still on my mind thinking perhaps that was a warning shot over my bow - threw my tobacco in the trash and threw away all of my smoking paraphernalia 'crutches'.

    No more little cancer sticks for me. High levels of crankiness to follow no doubt in the coming days and weeks. Preferable to sticking another one of those little blighters in my mouth. I'm sick of them.

    Shook me up a bit those chest pains this morning, can still feel them slightly now. Tired of the breathlessness too.

    From now on, I'm a non smoker. My commitment, contract with myself.

    Updates, reports, non-smoking diary of progress to follow below...
    I suffered the same a few months ago. I'm an ex smoker of 4 years. I think it was due to my diet too which I've recently overhauled. I used to weightlift which kept me healthy but I had to stop temporarily due to an injury and my heart hasn't been getting it's exercise.


    My symptoms were:

    * Tightness in the chest as though someone was grabbing my heart.
    * Sickness. Stomach turns over. I thought it was hunger and made myself beans on toast!
    * Dizzyness.
    * Breathing problems.
    * Left arm / hand begins to numb.
    * Feeling of doom - to be expected!


    Before the attack I had these symptoms:

    * Insomina
    * Breathing Problems / Wheezing.
    * Significantly raised heart rate.
    * Thoughts flooding in and out of my head as though I'd had 10 coffees.


    I take 10mg Propranalol (beta blocker) and an aspirin when any small symptoms appear and I've ramped up on my cardio weightlifting with lighter weights over a greater amount fo time. Lost 14lbs or so too as a result of my diet.

    I felt so much better within a mere two weeks of just changing my diet alone. Resting heart rate is so much better and I'm able to sleep like a baby.

    In laymans terms it is / was a partial blockage. A full on heart attack is a full blockage leading to unconciousness or death. Kick the cigs in the nuts and stay safe!!
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  • Profile picture of the author misharuski
    Yea I used to smoke and have bad chest/back pains now that I have fully quit it has stopped =)
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  • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
    Pete, you need to get ahold of a doctor now to find out what is going on.

    It may just be from the smoking, or it could be something more serious (like a blocked artery) that needs to get fixed asap.

    Seriously, if you don't do this, you could die tomorrow and all effort that went into quitting smoking will go to waste.

    You did do this to live longer right?
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Pete - I'm the same way - if it seems to be broke, I fix it myself. But I've put about 30 years of research behind my attitude. Have you backed up your attitude with enough info to save your life in a pinch?

    I think Floyd might be right about this one. For cripes sakes, isn't it free over there to do so? Take advantage of it -- none of us over here get that kind of luxury.
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    • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Pete - I'm the same way - if it seems to be broke, I fix it myself. But I've put about 30 years of research behind my attitude. Have you backed up your attitude with enough info to save your life in a pinch?

      I think Floyd might be right about this one. For cripes sakes, isn't it free over there to do so? Take advantage of it -- none of us over here get that kind of luxury.
      Sal, even if it cost him money, I'd wager it would be money well spent.

      About a month ago, I found a lump under my left breast....yeah, I immediately went to the doctor (didn't even make an appointment, which I got chewed out for lol)...and even though it diagnosed as a lump of fat, I don't feel bad about getting it checked out one bit.

      It's what you don't know about that can kill you.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher View Post

        Sal, even if it cost him money, I'd wager it would be money well spent.

        About a month ago, I found a lump under my left breast....yeah, I immediately went to the doctor (didn't even make an appointment, which I got chewed out for lol)...and even though it diagnosed as a lump of fat, I don't feel bad about getting it checked out one bit.

        It's what you don't know about that can kill you.
        That's true, Floyd - even if you know how to fix stuff, sometimes you need help to find out what's going on so you can do it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post


      I think Floyd might be right about this one. For cripes sakes, isn't it free over there to do so? Take advantage of it -- none of us over here get that kind of luxury.
      It's not free.

      It's a welfare state with the service covered by National Insurance contributions and it's not anything anyone will say a good word about here in the UK.

      You might not consider it such a "luxury" when you witness the abysmal state of the service which your mandatory tax is getting pumped into.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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        Originally Posted by webcore View Post

        ...it's not anything anyone will say a good word about here in the UK.

        You might not consider it such a "luxury" when you witness the abysmal state of the service...
        What a load of piffle. A massive sweeping generalisation. Most people actually praise up the NHS to the hilt and think it's a wonderful service. Like any very large and extremely complicated organisation it makes mistakes but on the whole, the NHS is superb.
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        • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
          Originally Posted by Pete Walker View Post

          What a load of piffle. A massive sweeping generalisation. Most people actually praise up the NHS to the hilt and think it's a wonderful service. Like any very large and extremely complicated organisation it makes mistakes but on the whole, the NHS is superb.

          What's "piffle" is you sitting there with a chronic problem and not doing anything about it, sporting the "I don't want to use people's taxes to treat a self induced life threatining ailment" excuse instead of realizing there's more people than you who'd suffer if you popped your clogs, getting up to get some further educated experience of a service which you regard so highly, joining the large pool of others who do use it and have lesser praises to provide.

          If on the off chance you do have a great branch of NHS services in your area, that's a blessing. Go use them. I'd sooner see my hypothesis be wrong than you sit and sing the praises of something which you don't even take advantage of - if only for the reasons of common logic alone...
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          • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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            Originally Posted by webcore View Post

            What's "piffle" is you sitting there with a chronic problem and not doing anything about it, sporting the "I don't want to use people's taxes to treat a self induced life threatining ailment" excuse instead of realizing there's more people than you who'd suffer if you popped your clogs, getting up to get some further educated experience of a service which you regard so highly, joining the large pool of others who do use it and have lesser praises to provide.

            If on the off chance you do have a great branch of NHS services in your area, that's a blessing. Go use them. I'd sooner see my hypothesis be wrong than you sit and sing the praises of something which you don't even take advantage of - if only for the reasons of common logic alone...
            Whatever sunshine whatever.
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            • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
              Originally Posted by Pete Walker View Post

              Whatever sunshine whatever.
              Rest assured, ignorance and patronization won't keep you healthy even if you are feeling a bit Janette Cranky from withdrawl.

              Typical British guy, avoid those guys like the plague.
              Your initial retort was glowingly ironic given that this is your "massive sweeping generalization" (employing the word "typical" no less) since I myself and many British others are seeing doctors, though maybe another "whatever" in your eyes...


              Either way, best of luck.
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      • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
        Originally Posted by webcore View Post

        It's not free.

        It's a welfare state with the service covered by National Insurance contributions and it's not anything anyone will say a good word about here in the UK.

        You might not consider it such a "luxury" when you witness the abysmal state of the service which your mandatory tax is getting pumped into.
        works just fine for me but im not in uk, i dont paying more tax for universal health cover and havent been to a doctor for a couple of years
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        • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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          Webcore, you've completely missed the point.


          Originally Posted by webcore View Post

          It's not free.

          It's a welfare state with the service covered by National Insurance contributions and it's not anything anyone will say a good word about here in the UK.

          You might not consider it such a "luxury" when you witness the abysmal state of the service which your mandatory tax is getting pumped into.
          Originally Posted by webcore View Post

          What's "piffle" is you sitting there with a chronic problem and not doing anything about it, sporting the "I don't want to use people's taxes to treat a self induced life threatining ailment" excuse...than you sit and sing the praises of something which you don't even take advantage of...
          National Insurance Contributions do not fund the NHS period.

          For more information visit...

          National Insurance and state benefits : Directgov - Money, tax and benefits

          The NHS (National Health Service) is funded by general taxation in the United Kingdom.

          The service is 100% free to all UK nationals.

          Again, I reiterate the point that most people in this country are indeed extremely thankful for the provision of the NHS. The service provided by the many hospitals, doctors, and nurses, midwives, homecarers, and all supporting staff is absolutely brilliant.

          Where else in the world can you or any foreigner involved in for example a terrible accident, be rushed into hospital by air ambulance or road ambulance, be operated upon, perhaps 'enjoy' weeks or months of healthcare and medicine, not to mention aftercare all provided completely free of charge?

          And you have the cheek, nay dare I say it, the disrespect to insinutate the service as rubbish? And further to spread the absolute falsehood that most people in this country hold the same to be true? :rolleyes: You sir are off your rocker!

          Countless lives saved. Countless childrens lives saved. And all the best care and attention 100% free. It is without fail one of the greatest institutions of this country!

          You want to see 'abysmal' in action? Go visit Somalia or some other field hospital in a war zone and you'll truly see what 'abysmal' really is on the ground.

          A 'life threatening condition'?

          Where on earth did you get that notion from? It seems to me you just can't help creating absolute sensationalism. For what underlying purpose to spread such false information on a marketing forum of all things - is just absurd and 100% completely ridiculous. You seriously don't know what side your bread is buttered on.

          You need to appreciate more of what we have actually got here instead of bitching about it. Travel the world... go visit some other hospitals in developing countries or try even the great US of A where healthcare will cost you an arm and a leg and then come back here and tell everyone what a crap service the NHS provides!

          Personally, having witnessed first hand the incredible healthcare in this country through personal experience in the past - I for one (and I'm absolutely certain millions more would agree with me, the greater majority in fact) that the NHS is overall superb.

          Their efforts, all the people behind it, those efforts should be applauded to the highest heaven not denigrated to your appalling opinion of this wonderful free healthcare system.

          Good grief man, get a grip.


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          • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
            Pete, although you've thrown a red herring in front of the general beef of the discussion, on the contrary NI (alongside general taxation - granted) does indeed contribute towards the NHS. Gordon Brown boosted it by a mere penny in an attempt to fix gaping holes in the NHS back in 2002 which raised controversy as to where the supposed, raised 40bn went when conditions barely improved - labelled as the biggest ever NHS investment. This segues nicely into my following point, concluding with a summary in bold...

            Originally Posted by Pete walker

            And you have the cheek, nay dare I say it, the disrespect to insinutate the service as rubbish? And further to spread the absolute falsehood that most people in this country hold the same to be true? :rolleyes: You sir are off your rocker!
            I maintain and reinforce my opinion of the NNS and I will continue to do so whilst I have first hand exprience of strings of hospitals (under the umberella of the "NHS") and witnessing reports by those who have suffered an ill fate and mistreatment because of it. A consideration that every large organization makes mistakes due to it's size isn't a strong argument given that hospitals deal with people lives and wellbeing. The margin for error should be tightened up tenfold, yet irresponsible mistakes are made, many hospitals are severely understaffed, undertrained and lacking in adequate facilities.

            Now before you think to yourself again that my claim above is absurd with your idea that we all live in a haven of expansive luxurious facility; it's not a case of relishing in what we have in comparison to another country or unfortunate circumstance. The fundamental argument - mine as well as those mentioned others, is the debate of what's going in and what's being put out.

            I don't have to visit Somalia or some other field hospital in a war zone since there's little to no money being pumped into the first and the latter is makeshift, thus the point you're trying to establish in contrasting our supposed fortune to their misfortune is void. What I might see would be a direct reflection of limited financial asset and inconvenience which I'd expect.

            Once again, you have the audacity to claim that I'm "spreading falsehood", whilst you yourself warrant your own ignorance of not seeking medical attention with the falsehood theory that British guys avoid seeking medical attention "like the plague" which they clearly don't. Your perpetuous, long winded argument about how amazing a service is, in contrast to you claiming that you won't use it is both hypocritical and ironic.

            Originally Posted by Pete Walker

            Countless lives saved. Countless childrens lives saved. And all the best care and attention 100% free. It is without fail one of the greatest institutions of this country!
            I've underestimated the extent of your naivety if you insist that treatment and care is 100% free and not a product of tax which you've already highlighted yourself.

            Originally Posted by Pete Walker

            A 'life threatening condition'?

            Where on earth did you get that notion from?
            You've confirmed now that your naivety knows no bounds if common sense alone doesn't tell you that the heart is the bodys primary vital organ and a heart attack however small needs to be assessed by a professional. You'd be forgiven for not being a cardiologist (we're meant to consult those) but everyone should have adequate capacity for simple and conclusive thinking - especially when it pertains to ones own health.

            Originally Posted by Pete Walker

            You need to appreciate more of what we have actually got here instead of bitching about it.
            No sir. As a person who is promoting but denying use of such facilities it's exactly what you need to do.
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            • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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              Quite honestly? You just seem argumentative to me and on this thread, I'm done communicating with you.

              If you want to discuss this further, pm me, but don't expect a fast reply.
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              • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
                I'm unsure why a long reply to an equally long post of yours which merely addresses your highlited points in a similar tone, deems me to be argumentative above that of yourself in a thread, which in all fairness is indeed an "argument" - sparked only by yourself...

                You know your sarcastic offer in your finishing line holds no practical value, so you're only perpetuating the very conflict which you've maintained throughout yet are suddenly claiming to bid against.

                We could build a foundry with this irony.

                Keep well.
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  • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
    Hey, let's all be friends.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christine2011
    I agree...consult a physician Great step made to quit smoking...
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  • Profile picture of the author foxtrot3
    Three years ago I bought the book "The easy way to stop smoking" by Allen Carr. You can get it at Amazon. That book plus the patches did it for me. It's great to be free of the ciggies.
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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    Pete, you really should see a doctor about this. You really need to know whether in fact a small heart attack had ocurred, or whether you had angina or something else. This is very serious and stopping smoking now may not prevent more dangerous episodes immediately.

    I have worked in the NHS before and have full confidence in them. This are the tests that are normally carried out.

    An ECG will give evidence of a past heart attack or angina
    Cardiac enzymes will give evidence of damage to the heart
    A chest X ray will show whether your heart is enlarged which would indicate this may have gone on for some time.
    They will also check your blood pressure, blood sugar, renal and live functions as well.

    Good luck
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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      Originally Posted by mojojuju View Post

      Hey, let's all be friends.
      Originally Posted by scrofford View Post

      If he is having chest pain from smoking, the last thing he needs is the patch or gum because it's full of nicotine just like cigarettes, which tightens the arteries and veins and makes the heart have to work harder. OP you should probably go get checked out by a doctor.
      Originally Posted by DesignontheGrind View Post

      For the love of pete get to a doctor. Get an EKG done STAT.
      Originally Posted by Christine2011 View Post

      I agree...consult a physician Great step made to quit smoking...
      Originally Posted by foxtrot3 View Post

      Three years ago I bought the book "The easy way to stop smoking" by Allen Carr. You can get it at Amazon. That book plus the patches did it for me. It's great to be free of the ciggies.
      Originally Posted by derekwong28 View Post

      Pete, you really should see a doctor about this. You really need to know whether in fact a small heart attack had ocurred, or whether you had angina or something else. This is very serious and stopping smoking now may not prevent more dangerous episodes immediately.

      I have worked in the NHS before and have full confidence in them. This are the tests that are normally carried out.

      An ECG will give evidence of a past heart attack or angina
      Cardiac enzymes will give evidence of damage to the heart
      A chest X ray will show whether your heart is enlarged which would indicate this may have gone on for some time.
      They will also check your blood pressure, blood sugar, renal and live functions as well.

      Good luck
      Thanks guys, I am listening to you and taking on your advice.

      The previous poster I'm completely ignoring his comments.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Louis Monk
    Giving up smoking might be one of the times that goes against the saying; "quitters never win". In the "living" stakes, winning might be about quitting (smoking).
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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      Bromsgrove eh? Had a girlfriend from there many, many years ago. Italian lass. Drop dead gorgeous. Actually got engaged to her. Although these days some 25 years later I hear she's gone a bit plump and wrinkly.

      Quite a disturbing thought given her astonishingly good looks when she was younger.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Louis Monk
    Was her mother considerably older and what did she look like? That would have been a good indication of what to expect, but when you got engaged, I expect it was not for looks alone.

    Smoking affects some people in the way they look, for example, their skin and that is only what you can see on the outside. Looking at a pair of lungs as they do in autopsies should be enough to put a smoker off smoking.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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      Originally Posted by David Louis Monk View Post

      Was her mother considerably older and what did she look like? That would have been a good indication of what to expect, but when you got engaged, I expect it was not for looks alone.

      Smoking affects some people in the way they look, for example, their skin and that is only what you can see on the outside. Looking at a pair of lungs as they do in autopsies should be enough to put a smoker off smoking.
      Lets not get on the subject of her mother! May her soul rest in peace. The most argumentative fiery old bint I've ever clapped eyes on.

      I hope they sell ear plugs in heaven. Blimey could that woman bloomin' go on about the most inconsequential things! Throw her hands up in the air and talk at a very high exaggerated rate of knots. The slightest thing and like a wound up clockwork toy, off she'd go at a 1000mph.

      In some ways finishing with this chick was a blessing in disguise. Mind you, the woman I eventually married she was a right wotsit too lol. I'll stay single I think, much safer now I'm divorced.
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  • Profile picture of the author KingOfMusic
    Congratulations on quitting smoking.

    This is the first thing I thought of after reading the topic: snopes.com: Cough CPR

    Cough CPR. Coughing to prolong getting into full cardiac arrest. But better read it because I'm not a MD and it seems that it would be successful if done right.

    Good luck and don't touch that cigarette!
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  • Profile picture of the author draker
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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      Originally Posted by draker View Post

      I never had one after I quit.
      A great if rather funny quote lol.

      Welcome to the WF.
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  • Profile picture of the author pickthat apple
    Originally Posted by Pete Walker View Post

    In bed, severe tightening all aound my chest, couldn't breathe properly. Not sure... possible small 'heart attack murmur'?

    Can only be down to smoking this past 16 years. Woke up, smoked one last one with my cup of tea, an hour later still on my mind thinking perhaps that was a warning shot over my bow - threw my tobacco in the trash and threw away all of my smoking paraphernalia 'crutches'.

    No more little cancer sticks for me. High levels of crankiness to follow no doubt in the coming days and weeks. Preferable to sticking another one of those little blighters in my mouth. I'm sick of them.

    Shook me up a bit those chest pains this morning, can still feel them slightly now. Tired of the breathlessness too.

    From now on, I'm a non smoker. My commitment, contract with myself.

    Updates, reports, non-smoking diary of progress to follow below...
    Hi Pete, excellent decision you took there, certainly your body will thank you for it.

    I do think though that it would have been wiser to zoom to an A&E, just to be on the safe side.
    In fact I was in one just the other day and in front of me a man reporting exacly the same scenario as you. They gave him of course priority on everybody else and in the end, all must have been fine, off he went cheerfully on his way.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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      Yes, yes, yes, yes, yesss stop naggin' you lot. I'm going to the doctors on Tuesday, after the bank holiday Monday day off.

      And I'll get myself on some patches or something and do a take 2.

      Yes, I bloomin' relapsed but at least this week I know what to expect in terms of withdrawal. And the patches or whatever will help with the nicotine cravings.

      And maybe I'll get the old ticker looked at too.

      Bahhhh. This place is like my mother sometimes I swear. You have to go just to shut the rambling masses up. But I know you all care which actually is rather nice. And appreciated. Just feeling a bit, well, cheerfully cantankerous today.

      Better get back to my course writing for a new product.

      Faggggg!
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  • Profile picture of the author M A Kay
    Smoking has really contributed the chest pain that you've suffered that time..visit to nearer clinic and let it checked by some specialist. Do not wait until severe symptoms occur..go as early as possible
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