Who just felt that earthquake??

Not me? Where are you located? Most people I know on the east coast are waiting to see if Irene comes to visit us or not this week.

Yeah, I think it threw off all my Google rankings. :p

No, in all seriousness, I'm in Central PA and definitely felt it. Scared the **** out of the kids. Never experienced anything like that. Whole house was shaking like a truck was driving on the roof.

News is saying 5.9...centered near Charlotteville...update:Mineral.


Bet that shocked the **** out of people back east..

In California, a 5.9 is called 'Wednesday'

I felt it and they talking about aftershocks over the next couple days. I am not experienced with this kind of stuff, so, I am thinking an emergency trip is in order.

Makes you appreciate life and spiritual contemplation.

Thursday hurricane irene is suppose to cause some serious damage on the east coast. I suspect it will cause massive floodings.

Keeping fingers crossed.

I haven't even made all the monies yet!

Upstate South Carolina, didn't know about it until after watching the news.

It's Global warming, :p

I've lived in Va for over 40 years and this is the first time in my life I have felt an earthquake,much less one of such a magnitude! I live about 30 miles from the epicenter.
It literally felt like the 2nd floor of my house was going to fall down. Went outside and saw my vehicle in the driveway shaking like an 800 pound gorilla was jumping on it.

Yeah ... I know. I live in Virginia 32 miles from epicenter. It sounded like an enormous military helicopter was falling on our house. The whole house just shook and rumbled for at least 40 seconds. It was frightening.

Steven, my nurse was doing a home visit when it struck and she knew what it was before I did.
But the quake did little damage from what we can tell so far,It was scary as hell though.
As for anything else, I'm just trying to get back to a bearable condition.

Seem to be quite a few big ones going around.
Japan had a 4.8 12 hours ago and now the US get a really big one.
Take care guys .. sure is nice to be in London today.
Earthquake's live

yeah it felt so weird, my family in Cleveland also called me and said they felt it also!

My worst earthquake experience was a time back in about 1980. I was traveling, pulling a little 14ft travel trailer. I was visiting relatives and had just watched the original Halloween movie and went outside to my trailer to go to sleep.

I just drifted off when the entire trailer started shaking. Because I was in between sleep and being awake, I thought "Jason" was shaking the trailer trying to get in. I eventually realized I was in California and it was just a small earthquake, but for a about a minute I was as frightened as I've ever been in my life.

I felt the earthquake.

And in light of the event (sorry if it turns out to be serious) read this thread: http://www.warriorforum.com/mind-war...ml#post4528152

This was my first earthquake experience.. so it was pretty freaky.

Strange - was reading today Colorado (southern) had an earthquake - (edit:largest) one since 1967.

Man, the poor east coast - floods, heatwave and now this and hurricane on the way ...

Nothing strange here in California Earthquake country except my computer is making a strange sound off and on.

Not to minimize the scariness for those not used to this, but those are real small earthquakes - it's the ones over 6 that get heavy and serious toward 7.

With that said, everything is relative of course and it makes a big difference on how your house is constructed - not to mention whether you are on sand, landfill or bedrock - as to what damage etc would be experienced at what magnitude.

Sleep tight, guys - hope it wasn't a 'fore-shock' and that there are few 'after-shocks'.

I felt it at work in Newtown Square, PA about 18 miles west of Philly.

Wouldn't it be nice if they took global warming by the horns?

One of the things that i'd like to eradicate completely.

On another note:
Aren't you excited about the aftershocks that are going to come? Woohoo

I'm in Canada at the moment and I felt it up here.

... crazy stuff.

No one seems to be talking about the aftershocks...my preliminary research says that the after shocks could be stronger than the first one.

Any thoughts?

I/you could be dead when the next one hit.

Better appreciate my humor while i'm hear!!

Well, the shake is caused by the effect of the plates moving. If they are big enough, it could be felt over a LARGE distance, and not be very powerful. Imagine how much force a bomb would have to have to destroy as many buildings as the northridge eathquake in 1994! It was powerful, and covered a good portion of the county. It was big enough to maybe cover a couple states, if the faultline went across them.

But 5.9? WOW, you guys really ARE new to earthquakes, huh? I was in one state, I believe IOWA, and WE felt the earth quake. That may have been close to 5.9! They were using explosives!

I'm from california. We usually laugh at earthquakes smaller than 6. Even while those new to them try to grab the walls and down dramamine!

Steve

I'm in Southwest Colorado so I wonder if my ground will be shaking sooner rather than later.

Was in one quake when I lived in Cali. Last all of two seconds and shook everything off my walls.

I'm just glad that the two nuclear reactors at the epicenter automatically shut down and 4 diesel generators automatically fired up to keep cooling operations on.

Now that this is over all we have to do is brace ourselves for Hurricane Irene, a major hurricane, by the way. No pissy little hurricane.

I know it does not compare to the west coast earthquakes in magnitude but in all honesty, when people in DC & NYC feel buildings shake....an earthquake is NOT the first thing that comes to mind....especially with the 10 yr anniversary of 911 only a few weeks away....

I felt it in my building in NYC- took me a second to figure out what was going on

Yeah I felt it, first time in my life I've ever experienced one. Haven't felt any aftershocks yet...

Not sure what is going on right now, but if everyone remembers all the large quakes last year? Okay -- those were all at depths of 10 and 35 kms. All the little quakes and clusters of barely there shakes were the same depth.

Well - right now the US is experiencing clusters of 5 km deep quakes and other quakes less than 10 km deep. They've been going on all up and down the West Coast now for around 3 weeks -- and now Virginia, Oklahoma shakes lightly now and again and is now regiserting small, and very shallow ones. All of Colorado's have been 5 km deep so far.

I don't know what this means to have them all lining up so shallow and to see clusters of the small ones going off -- but I can say this. After 6 years of quake tracking, I'm concerned about this one. There is a fault line down The Mississipi in the Central region - around Missouri, might run into upper AR - that area anyhow - that has produced some large (8 mag type large) quakes. I don't even want to know about an 8 mag right there.

Then we have the Western area with a major fault line (San Andreas) with these little shallow quakes rippling up and down it --- and the Cascadia Subduction zone late to be blowing -- OR, WA, BC -- with the same small shallow quakes hitting it.

Then there's the ones in Alaska and on down through the Japan area -which shakes all the time anyhow, but not at these depths, um....or lack thereof. Indonesia is another one further south of that that shakes a lot anyhow but is getting clusters of small shallow quakes right now.

So anyhow -- you folks in the middle regions by the Mississippi and those in the West need to bone up real good on your earthquake safety info. Serious.

I'm not sure yet whether these little clusters are a good thing or a real bad omen. They happened before the big quakes. They could also just be the crust adjusting from the magnetic pole shift. That's what the large quakes were last year so some of the crust might just be following it up.

I'll keep watching and if I can figure anything out from all this I'll sure say something -- right now my concerns are the Cascadia and the Mississippi.

Little levity now...

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PS: Y'all should listen to Sal...she knows her quakes for sure!!

thats surprising good to see there was no death or anything

Hey guys, I live just outside of Charlottesville - approx. 30 miles from the epic center. This is the first time I have ever experienced anything like this. My kids and I were home when the quake struck. Our Chocolate Lab was acting strange just prior to the event. She was going back and forth room to room acting as if she was hearing something. (not acting herself) Then suddenly the shaking began. It lasted approx. 35-40 seconds. I have also heard that animals know of something to occur before humans. I honestly think this was the case. I hope to never experience anything like this ever again. Thank God I do not live on the west coast. I am just thankful that no one was seriously injured or there was no major damage.

Just found this article about the damages at the epicenter, a small rural county of 33,000 people. A fair amount of damage there, particularly to schools, where ceiling tiles and light fixtures fell down and large bookshelves fell over.

And the Washington Monument has cracks and is closed indefinitely. Also some other structural damage in some DC buildings and damage to cars and store windows from falling trees.

Out here with all the very tall very old trees we have, falling trees is something we think about a lot. We try to take down the ones that appear to be weakening before a hurricane hits.

Town at epicenter assesses damage

I was just looking over stats on the New Madrid fault line because it's about 30 years past due to shake. There's a few other fault lines out there that could go, too - with the possibility of 1,500 miles of ground affected. Mississippi, Louisiana, Tennessee, Illinois, Missouri, Tennessee, and Kentucky mostly. The last time it went off was 1812 and it was an 8 mag - so strong that it made water of the Mississippi run backward.

I looked at the the USGS damage estimates of different size quakes.

What has to be understood about a quake in that area is that it's not plate boundary - it's intra-plate faults. The rock is different - less elastic, so the shaking travels further and is stronger. That means that the force of each point of magnitude is gets more exponentially damaging than the same increases on a plate boundary. The faults in that area are deep and not apparent above ground so they don't know much. The one running over through Kentucky was just discovered recently. There's no way to know just yet if there's more of them out that way. There's a lot of faults that they only find out about when they shake. Earthquakes are possible anywhere - even places they aren't expected (as those in VA just found out).

Anyhow - the estimates were only one or two deaths for anything up to a 7 mag, but a lot of structural damage. Over 7 mag there were up to 1 to 10% death tolls as the mag increased (7.0 - 7.2 - 7.4....), and they only went up to mag 7.6. They didn't post anything about estimates for another 8 mag. Last time it really shook, there weren't too many people out in that territory. Now there's major cities within range. Since the last one was a mag 8, I can't figure out why they stopped the estimates at 7.6.

The other one that is over-due is the Cascadia subduction zone.

I was at my desk here in Baltimore, Md and my monitors started to shake and my coffee mug was rumbling. It was very scary, I ran downstairs and ran outside and tried to make some calls but all cells were down. I had my phone in my pocket and was able to text and read facebook and saw that others felt the rumble.

I walked around the house to check for damage then went back in and our local news WJZ 13 broke in with a live report.

Was a first for me!

The biggest noise I heard sounded like my 2nd story dropping down on me.

Wow. It's not normal for even intra-plate quakes to travel that far. Kinda makes me wonder if something is going on in the mid-atlantic ridge that is pushing that plate inward. Doesn't sound like a fault slip. Sounds like something fractured. Any word of anyplace that looks like the ground buckled or any rises or dips that weren't there last week?

PLEASE say it isn't so!!!!! I heard that NOTHING was broke, NOBODY was hurt, etc.... OK, THAT I can believe, accept, GREAT! I'm happy! ******BUT****** I heard AIrports were CLOSED and people were ent home for the day! UNREAL! And someone said "EVERYTHING WAS SHAKING"!!!!!!!! ****OH NO**** what about the secondary foundation every building has attaching it to th sky so the roof stays stationary EVEN if the planet shifts? Didn't it work?

BTW the last couple statements were a joke, for those that can't tell. But shutting down airports? Was that a joke, or what?

Steve

BTW. usually, PERHAPS ALWAYS, earthquakes come in GROUPS. So you may well get more. At 5.9, this one was TINY. It may have been the REAL earthquake. If so, you ight not actually FEEL the others but liquids may move, chandelliers may shake, it may be on the news. It could EASILY last for WEEKS!

Steve

I am in northern NJ and I didn't feel any shaking here, yet it seems that people in areas around me did. I have experienced one before in NY state a few years ago and that was only around a 4.0.

tons of earthquakes these days around the world

visimedia - there's always been around this many (slightly higher in the last few years but not that much). What is different is that we have global tracking now. Even if a small quake happens where there is nobody to feel it we know about it. Before global tracking a very large quake could happen and as long as there was nobody around to feel it, nobody knew.

There is also a very much larger population and a LOT of people parking their homes right on fault lines, so we not only know about them, more people are being destroyed by them.

Pat - San Andreas is more well known than the Hayward - and much longer. It runs into the Cascadia Subduction zone. So all in all - the area it covers makes it more dangerous in ways --- However, Hayward is expected to shake in the next 30 years. Hayward is known for 7.+ quakes - 7.2 - 7.4, etc. As shallow as quakes have been in the last year, a 7 mag on Hayward would be disastrous. Is your home on rollers or skis? It will help the trip down the hill for sure. There's two faults north of it that some people consider part of the same fault - one south of you, and several other shorter ones scattered around out your way. Takes talent to avoid one out there.

Okay - the cracks in your walls. You have no clue how many quakes you have going on there. Until a quake hits mag 3 or so you aren't going to feel it unless you are really paying attention. You might see a cupboard shake or a lampshade sway. If you're in bed you might feel the slightest vibration if you are still awake. But those little tremors do move earth and that moves your foundation -- especially considering the rock you are sitting on there - greywacke, siltstone, carbonaceous sandstones, shale -- well you get the drift. In some areas it's BIM rock - (blocks in matrix) which are strong rock blocks encased in weaker rock. Nothing you are sitting on is particularly strong unless you have one of the granite areas under you. I don't walk around out there, I'm not sure how much granite there is, but I know there's a lot of the weaker rock - So you are sitting basically on rock that degrades rapidly, meaning the foundation is not secure. It's even less secure when it rains if you have greywacke under you - it will expand and break apart. So all those little shakes are breaking apart the shale, sandstones, etc underneath you. If you are in a very new building, at least there will have been a geo-technical scientist advising on foundation materials and bedding, etc. If it's an old building - well, um..never mind.

Okay - now here we come to the cracks in the walls. Would you like to see a couple days of earthquakes in your area? Here ya go - here's the 23rd, 24th, and what you've had so far today. This is why you have cracks in your walls.



Mag. Date Time Lat Long Depth Location
2.1 2011/08/25 01:17:06 38.840N 122.829W 2.4 5 km ( 3 mi) NNW of The Geysers, CA
1.8 2011/08/25 00:31:41 38.622N 122.768W 9.9 9 km ( 5 mi) E of Healdsburg, CA
1.9 2011/08/24 23:01:12 37.383N 121.741W 6.7 8 km ( 5 mi) ENE of Alum Rock, CA
1.0 2011/08/24 18:21:28 37.744N 122.138W 7.6 4 km ( 2 mi) NNE of San Leandro, CA
1.0 2011/08/24 14:40:07 38.749N 122.706W 1.6 3 km ( 2 mi) SSW of Anderson Springs, CA
1.0 2011/08/24 14:39:23 38.748N 122.704W 1.9 3 km ( 2 mi) SSW of Anderson Springs, CA
1.6 2011/08/24 12:51:35 37.327N 122.099W 0.7 5 km ( 3 mi) S of Los Altos, CA
1.4 2011/08/24 12:10:02 37.751N 122.149W 6.6 4 km ( 3 mi) N of San Leandro, CA
1.6 2011/08/24 11:33:37 37.746N 122.138W 7.6 4 km ( 3 mi) NNE of San Leandro, CA
1.6 2011/08/24 10:48:37 37.747N 122.141W 6.7 4 km ( 3 mi) NNE of San Leandro, CA
1.7 2011/08/24 10:37:10 37.747N 122.140W 7.0 4 km ( 3 mi) NNE of San Leandro, CA
1.4 2011/08/24 10:12:03 37.747N 122.145W 6.0 4 km ( 3 mi) N of San Leandro, CA
3.5 2011/08/24 09:57:44 37.751N 122.138W 9.2 5 km ( 3 mi) NNE of San Leandro, CA
1.4 2011/08/24 07:46:42 38.830N 122.790W 2.1 4 km ( 2 mi) NNE of The Geysers, CA
1.2 2011/08/24 07:04:45 38.830N 122.791W 2.1 4 km ( 2 mi) NNE of The Geysers, CA
1.1 2011/08/24 05:23:13 38.813N 122.811W 3.7 2 km ( 1 mi) NNW of The Geysers, CA
2.0 2011/08/24 05:09:36 38.832N 122.792W 2.5 4 km ( 2 mi) NNE of The Geysers, CA
1.9 2011/08/24 04:50:47 38.824N 122.804W 3.4 3 km ( 2 mi) N of The Geysers, CA
1.4 2011/08/24 04:03:55 38.825N 122.826W 2.7 3 km ( 2 mi) NNW of The Geysers, CA
1.8 2011/08/24 03:59:27 37.752N 122.140W 7.9 5 km ( 3 mi) NNE of San Leandro, CA
1.4 2011/08/24 02:33:47 38.832N 122.832W 1.3 4 km ( 3 mi) NNW of The Geysers, CA
1.5 2011/08/24 01:32:53 37.748N 122.141W 7.5 4 km ( 3 mi) NNE of San Leandro, CA
2.2 2011/08/23 23:41:53 37.751N 122.147W 8.3 4 km ( 3 mi) N of San Leandro, CA
3.6 2011/08/23 23:36:54 37.744N 122.149W 8.1 4 km ( 2 mi) N of San Leandro, CA
2.0 2011/08/23 20:15:47 38.835N 122.778W 2.8 5 km ( 3 mi) NNE of The Geysers, CA
1.4 2011/08/23 18:23:10 38.839N 122.801W 2.1 4 km ( 3 mi) N of The Geysers, CA
1.2 2011/08/23 17:32:40 38.806N 122.738W 2.8 4 km ( 2 mi) SSW of Cobb, CA
1.4 2011/08/23 16:19:18 38.825N 122.826W 0.0 3 km ( 2 mi) NNW of The Geysers, CA
1.7 2011/08/23 13:35:18 38.837N 122.776W 2.6 5 km ( 3 mi) W of Cobb, CA
2.4 2011/08/23 08:47:51 38.762N 122.734W 1.8 4 km ( 2 mi) WSW of Anderson Springs, CA
1.3 2011/08/23 03:52:12 38.987N 122.551W 5.3 8 km ( 5 mi) ENE of Clearlake, CA
1.2 2011/08/23 02:29:26 38.837N 122.812W 2.9 4 km ( 3 mi) N of The Geysers, CA
1.0 2011/08/23 00:05:24 38.817N 122.796W 3.0 2 km ( 1 mi) NNE of The Geysers, CA

Okay - I know most of those are N or S of you but it's only a few days of quakes there - there were a few almost under you. The little ones cluster like that. So you can figure you are getting those clusters right under you fairly often where you are. Mostly - you won't hear about a quake until a lot of people feel it.

Had a bit of an aftershock last night around 1am. Bed started shaking a bit. I didn't even get up. I think I'm getting used to it. lol.

Heysal:

What prompted your obsession with earthquakes?

I mean I am a weather tracker too, but, not nearly at the depth you are. I gotten into weather largely because of my dislike for places where weather is not nice and to avoid natural disasters.

BTW: The people on city-data forum would love your input/participation in the weather area on their,lol.

Just felt an aftershock last night at around 1:00 am. Strongest aftershock I've felt so far.

The earthquake was big news because it was a surprise. We don't get them. This is the real deal though.

Irene Cometh

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Heysal who are you?

LOL,

when you say it wont take too long to find out what do you mean, in terms of within a few years?

Suzanne,
I have always been amazed at how often we lose power since I moved to the Richmond area. I spent over 20 years in Northern Virginia and we never lost power as much there.

If it's any consulation any damage you get I probably will get some of too...

Trees down, winds, and, rain.

If this goes as they say, I think it maybe more rain then usual which will cause flooding in some areas like they had in Pa. not too long ago.

That's just my feeling. I haven't heard anything from meteorologist stating that as fact.

We'll see

I worked in Reston for 10 years before moving here.
The Post Office on Sunset Hills Road and of course the Herndon Post Office.

No, I don't have a generator, would love one but have been unable to get caught up financially to get what would be considered a luxury at this point.

And you are exatly right, the wind blows too strong and we lose power.Anything will make us lose power it seems. But I fould that works also with windshields. NOrthern Virginia with Rt66 and/or the beltway, never had a broken windshield.Seems we average at least one a year here.
We are about to get hit with a bad storm,so I am getting off here,With all its faults, I still like where I am now than Northern Va.

Oh God - more catastrophy - Stay safe everybody.

... but I just saw this thread and think it may be related to the earthquakes on the East Coast - couldn't just be a coincidence I don't think.

http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...oard-risk.html

Yeah, you are gettin' hammered. Hope all goes well. Just hope it stays a category 3 (or slows down). I'm not familiar with those storms so I was a bit surprised at evacuations. I didn't realize that they were that scary until they hit a 4. So I guess you can tell you need a different tracker on this thread for those things.

I'm really hopeful for everyone that their power isn't out too long - and all else goes with minimal damages, too. Will be thinking of everyone Sunday.

Earthquake...earthquake...really terrifying for me.

Be safe those who are in the affected areas

So I guess Irene the Hurricane is enough for the East Coast to worry about right now - I hope it will be downgraded - usually when there is tons of hoopla and panic they are.

Nobody is wrong more than the poor weatherman - they are rarely right in fact.

However the story about the 4200 quakes in the Canary Islands does look pretty ominous and I still don't think it is a coincidence but then what do I know - just a guess.

... Just a feeling I had the day the East quakes happened that it was from something else that was going on - had not heard the Canary Island story yet (and in my tin foil addled brain I was more thinking like HAARP or some secret underground explosion).

I hope you are right, Sally that it means nothing.

El Hierro Earthquake Count Exceeds 4200 - Irish Weather Online

Oh, the Canary Island quakes mean something - they could just mean the volcano's getting ready to blow. But they aren't connected to the earthquakes in the US. Ours right now are ground shift. But we have some majorly dangerous areas and if things are shifting something could just cut loose.

If you are into tinfoil at the moment though - here's a thought to keep you sporting your favorite tinman suit for a few: in 2005 there was legislation making it illegal to control the weather. That said, if they were legislating against it, it's very obvious someone has the capability. They don't just legislate non-existent crap for something fun to do. Now was the law directed at HARRP? Who knows. It's not like anyone is going to tell us about it. The legislation was pretty covert. I only found out about it accidentally while searching their records for something else.

But - in reality, we were due for a pole shift anyway. It's been 160 years since the last one.

Probably - Do hurricanes ever hit Oklahoma? There are frequent quakes there - but I've never seen anything over a 4 mag. Don't really know much about what's going on there that they get them, but if they get hurricanes it's really likely they've been hit with both at the same time.

OMG - wouldn't you know they would rush to legislate against something that could've helped someone - for instance the drought stricken Somalia?

Wouldn't it be nice - ok don't create rain - how about just redirecting it from somewhere that is frigging flooding???

Yeah - I have no doubt HAARP can do that (control the weather) - I don't know why but just based on my extensive phD in reality television - hehe

I don't really think there is an association with hurricanes and earthquakes (again based on my extensive knowledge of 'feelings')

but #1 you had me scared ****less one time about some volcano in one of our national parks I can't remember Wyoming or somewhere and what would happen if it went off.

but #2 I know this: (actually) we had been in a drought in CA when Loma Prieta hit in 1989 - and as soon as that was over it began to rain - I don't think we have had a drought since - at least not that bad. So in my mind I associate this and I hate the feeling when there is no rain. I can't breathe in the first place and in the second place when it doesn't rain I am sure we are gonna have a 'big one'.

That is why I always live near water - not sure what it is - ions or whatever - I grew up 6 blocks from Ocean Beach (the ugliest beach in America) in SF and it was a world of fog even when it was hot everywhere else - I thought the sky was actually gray until I was 17 and moved away from the 'Sunset' district. LOL.

Now of course I live on the bay and I thank God every hot day that it is windy here even when it is hot and also that the water lets hot hell cool off at night (or wee hours) when those few hot days we have happen here.

Here is a present for you - don't worry about the 1st video - it is nothing (and has a cheesy mobile1 commercial to boot) The story should be good enough. (you can see some images at http://news.google.com/)

A ROCK for Sally Rock Hound

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Thanks Kurt - I feel better now. hehehe

Sleep tight everybody - we are living in a world of horror and terror - every day could be the last - so make it a good one!

Crap Kurt - that volcano is in the Canaries? For some reason I remembered it as being on the African coast. Yep, that makes the tremors there hella spooky. Glad I'm inland - I hate to swim.

Did you hear that Yellowstone is cooling? They think the plume has unhooked from the heat source. That doesn't mean that it's not still really hot and it doesn't mean that it can't still erupt - but it is cooling and if it has unhooked from the heat source, the pressure isn't building any more. The buffalo are no longer migrating away from the area. That's all some super volcanic good news to me. Not a guarantee of course - but it's a lot better than hearing that the dome is still growing. At least with the pressure off, if it did still explode, it wouldn't be quite as bad. Might only take half of us down instead of most of us.

We could always make the issue just a tad more fun and take bets on where the cap will land if it does blow. I'm thinking that central Idaho will get squashed. Too bad - Nice country out there.

Steve - I don't think the legislation rules out cloud seeding - although it might. If you've noticed, we've got a few very drought stricken regions and they aren't seeding the clouds in those areas for some reason - even the ones that have high risk of major forest fires. What the law concentrates on is the use of weather for control, power plays. It never fails though that people blame HARRP for earthquakes every time someone hears about one. People just generally don't realize that earthquakes are as prevalent as they are so get spooked when they start hearing news of another one.

Kurt - I know where the Canaries are, but didn't realize that was where the volcano was. I felt a little chill when I read your post revealing it was the same location. I've seen a lot of clusters throughout my years of tracking - but not one that intense. Yellowstone clusters now and again and it spooks me when it happens, but so far the clusters have been fairly small. Didn't realize they found animals in Nebraska, too - I know there were some to the SW, too with glass in the lungs - 1000 miles away. It's possible they just made it that far before bleeding out from the glass though. 800 mile radius was what I heard for the "kill" zone. 125 mile radius for immediate. It may sound obssessive, but I always check to see how far I am from that thing when I move. Always want to know how long I have to escape a danger zone. I'm around 750 miles from it right now so have a good chance of getting out of the area, but not sure if there will be anywhere best to go once the ash is dispersed worldwide. That's one of the blessings of that thing getting unhooked from the mantle, though - if it goes and it's unhooked, it will only have a fraction of the intensity and the longer it's unhooked, the smaller that thing will be.

And you are right - they thought it was getting ready to blow a few years back and are still watching it. The dome isn't increasing anymore and the ground temp in the spots it was going over 200 degrees has stopped getting hotter. The buffalo started migrating out at one point and officials were haggling over whether to evacuate the park and shut it down. They didn't do so. Not because it wasn't a real danger - but because nobody wanted to give up their tourist money. Go figure.

Makes me wonder if they said that it's unhooked just so people wouldn't panic and start moving, and stop visiting. Do you know the chaos that would ensue if they just came out and said it's getting ready to blow? I'm thinking they would probably rather sacrifice the people close enough for immediate kill rather than to get that one rolling.

They have done some studies in regions that are known for intense disasters yet are loaded with people now. Even though people know that they live in a danger zone, very few of them have preparedness items, and very few know what to do if a disaster hits. I guess that is considered optimism? I'm not sure if people think government is supposed to be able to save their butts any time something happens or what, but it seems if you live on a fault line, subduction zone, or volcano that you would be smart enough to learn what to do if one hits and have a plan of action.

This is where I always go off on an endless 'utter bulls***' mantra.

3/4 of earth is water - millions of people are dying and starving from drought.

and they don't know where to get fricking water????

Some countries that are smart enough, but maybe too stupid to care about anybody else, do have desalienation plants in operation (mid east) - you would think more would embrace the technology (don't say it is 'expensive' - so is going to fricking mars - for what???)

So maybe 2+2 doesnt = 4 - but somehow between being able to manipulate the weather and using the water that is everywhere, it just really pisses me off that nobody ever cares about Africa - except to take everything it has (diamonds, ivory, etc) and leave the people dying of starvation.

Don't give me logic that is going to tell me why it just can't be helped please - I am very emotional on this subject and I do not accept any of the tired excuses I always hear.

(i realize there are murderous demons there that sell the food we donate on the black market and this sort of discourages us from doing more in that respect). I don't think they will figure out how to steal rain from dying people.