WHAT THE ZUCK IS GOING ON?

by Peter Gehr 12 replies
Did you know that it's now possible for Facebook to follow you even when you are logged out of your Facebook account?

Surprised?

No, me neither.

However, there are some who are excited about the new changes Zuckerberg and his team have implemented, and, as per usual, those that aren't.

A technology expert in Australia exposed the fact that FB can track your internet activity even after you log out of your account, and, although it's been kind of obvious by the fact that if you visit a site with a FB button, you generally see your pretty face right there next to the comment section. Therefore, it was a no-brainer to me that FB uses tracking cookies to follow your every move.

Apparently, our browsers are sending input back to Zuckerberg's systems, so if you'd rather not, you may want to consider using a different browser for your internet surfing, i.e. Firefox for Facebook, and Chrome for going elsewhere online--or whatever browers you use.

With the ever-increasing willingness (or numbness) to share private information, an online advertiser would give anything for such information on 800 million customers wouldn't they?

What would you do if you were given the opportunity to direct such qualified, verified and fully profiled customers and their data on your particular niche?

This information is obviously for commercial purposes so that they can continue assembling a detailed profile on you so that they can advertise with precise input from your online shopping, blogging, interests, and habits.

Pretty smart, huh?

OK, so it's a little creepy, and all the privacy advocates are up in arms again, and I personally tend to agree with them, but I know a lot of people actually aren't bothered by the blatant infringements.

It appears that the Timeline feature offers users the ability to track their entire history in chronological order within FB, including who they have removed from their friends list and when.

With a current valuation of US$100 billion, the power of the social networking behemoth seems unstoppable.

Put it this way, the "log out" button in Facebook should probably be renamed, and here are a few ideas:

"Zuck out"

"Zone out"

"Don't bother"

"See you on the other side"

"You can't be serious?"

"It's not going to happen"

"We never sleep, sucker!"

Lastly, probably most of us were made aware of the hoax posts going around that Facebook was going to start charging monthly fees for your account, however, don't believe it.

If Facebook were to implement fees, that would be the best thing that could ever happen for g+ in that most people would jump ship, and I'm pretty sure Zuckerberg is not silly enough to lose his empire so easily.

Just a few thoughts...
#off topic forum #facebook #privacy #timeline #zuckerberg
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Originally Posted by Peter Gehr View Post

    Did you know that it's now possible for Facebook to follow you even when you are logged out of your Facebook account?

    Surprised?

    No, me neither.

    However, there are some who are excited about the new changes Zuckerberg and his team have implemented, and, as per usual, those that aren't.

    A technology expert in Australia exposed the fact that FB can track your internet activity even after you log out of your account, and, although it's been kind of obvious by the fact that if you visit a site with a FB button, you generally see your pretty face right there next to the comment section. Therefore, it was a no-brainer to me that FB uses tracking cookies to follow your every move.
    It would, ironically, be a SECURITY breach if the logon were purely API driven, etc... so you can bet that ANY such thing does it with a regular call, and they may be able to track with a REGULAR cookie.

    Apparently, our browsers are sending input back to Zuckerberg's systems, so if you'd rather not, you may want to consider using a different browser for your internet surfing, i.e. Firefox for Facebook, and Chrome for going elsewhere online--or whatever browers you use.
    If they ARE using a normal cookie, ALL browsers would track. If you found one old enough that didn't(maybe they existed about 20 years ago), it wouldn't be useful for much. of course, the OLD cookies only work with certain things, like objects pulled from facebook(EVEN A LOGO GRAPHIC), or properly setup API calls. So if you go to amazon, and get ANY such thing from facebook, facebook may know you were on amazon.

    With the ever-increasing willingness (or numbness) to share private information, an online advertiser would give anything for such information on 800 million customers wouldn't they?

    What would you do if you were given the opportunity to direct such qualified, verified and fully profiled customers and their data on your particular niche?

    This information is obviously for commercial purposes so that they can continue assembling a detailed profile on you so that they can advertise with precise input from your online shopping, blogging, interests, and habits.

    Pretty smart, huh?
    Don't you *****DARE***** try to give credit for this garbage to zuxckerberg. It is NOT a new idea. In fact, DECADES ago, before the internet was even opened up, before the WWW existed, before zuckerberg did ANYTHING with this, a bank GAVE stores checkout systems! WHY!?!?!? To see what people were buying! #here was a huge uproar when people found out, and they were supposedly removed. There is OBVIOUSLY mining of credit card data ANYWAY! Even CHECK data! So "smart"?

    You want to give credit for that to someone? That person may have died hundreds or even THOUSANDS of years ago! NO, people like zuckerberg are just trying to push the envelope to get ANYTHING they can, so they can trade it for as much as they can! That was referred to even in the old testament, so that dates back thousands of years, and there are records that go back over 10 thousand years.

    People like zuckerberg just stop being interested in security when they see that a breach can make them a lot of money.

    OK, so it's a little creepy, and all the privacy advocates are up in arms again, and I personally tend to agree with them, but I know a lot of people actually aren't bothered by the blatant infringements.

    It appears that the Timeline feature offers users the ability to track their entire history in chronological order within FB, including who they have removed from their friends list and when.

    With a current valuation of US$100 billion, the power of the social networking behemoth seems unstoppable.

    Put it this way, the "log out" button in Facebook should probably be renamed, and here are a few ideas:

    "Zuck out"

    "Zone out"

    "Don't bother"

    "See you on the other side"

    "You can't be serious?"

    "It's not going to happen"

    "We never sleep, sucker!"

    Lastly, probably most of us were made aware of the hoax posts going around that Facebook was going to start charging monthly fees for your account, however, don't believe it.

    If Facebook were to implement fees, that would be the best thing that could ever happen for g+ in that most people would jump ship, and I'm pretty sure Zuckerberg is not silly enough to lose his empire so easily.

    Just a few thoughts...
    You think g+ doesn't track? If they don't. it would be ODD!!!!! Most of their sites, and probably all, DO track!

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    BTW I only say this because:

    1. I HATE seeing people get credit for something they DIDN'T invent.
    2. I HATE seeing an OLD problem shown as if it were new.
    3. I HATE seeing some OLD things attributed to NEW technology.
    etc....

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Anything that messes with Google pride (and profits) is good for me... so, Go FB!!

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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    BTW this data is FAULTY! Just yesterday, I went to a restaurant, and the guy offered me WHEAT bread! WHAT!!?!? Why WHEAT? I mean he KNEW I liked cookies, turkey, and swiss cheese. WHY wheat? Do you think MAYBE it is because ONE time, out of a half dozen, LAST time, that I ordered wheat? WHY did I order wheat? They were OUT of WHITE!

    One anecdote I have is how a hotel once gave me a little welcome plate of goodies, and included a butterfinger. WHY? That is ODD! I HATE those! They stick to yur teeth, and are harder to chew. WHY? WHY WHY!?!?!? Do you think it is because when I left a few days earlier that I had a wrapper for one in my trash? WHY? I slipped up, got it from the vending machine, and when I was STARVING, ATE IT!

    I could give you even more off the wall things. Some are TOTALLY wrong. But even the above are good examples of why "data mining" is not perfect. BTW "data mining" IS a real term! Data mining - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia So this is not new at all! At times, I have eaten things I have HATED simply because they are the only available. And let's not forget...Maybe a GUEST had that butterfinger! They COULD have!

    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
      I agree with Steve. The database of Visa, Amex, etc. has on their customers would make Facebook and Zuck blush. And they mine that bad boy for profit all the time.

      But seems no one cares about that anymore. We've caved.

      Ever wonder why some offline stores ask for your zip code when checking out?
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      • Profile picture of the author KimW
        Originally Posted by Alan Petersen View Post

        I agree with Steve. The database of Visa, Amex, etc. has on their customers would make Facebook and Zuck blush. And they mine that bad boy for profit all the time.

        But seems no one cares about that anymore. We've caved.

        Ever wonder why some offline stores ask for your zip code when checking out?
        And I wonder if they wonder why I make a different one everytime they ask!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sunfyre7896
    Regardless of whether you like or hate the new changes they've been making, you'll most likely still be using Facebook instead of Google +, or at least using both. I don't see many people starting over and having to get used to Google +. I read an article stating that Google + was having issues because many of the unique things they offered that Facebook did not, Facebook went ahead and implemented them to negate those factors. If it wasn't for the fact that Google is so huge, I could see the Plus folding.
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  • Profile picture of the author zhianzee
    Zuckerberg is doing so much for this site. Can't he just keep the essential features?!
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  • Profile picture of the author albertosm
    good thing i don't have facebook, life is complicated enough
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  • Profile picture of the author mongsky
    what ever they do to FB or G+, people will still be using them no matter what other say
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