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yukon

Banned 13 years ago

OMG!

What the $#%&...

What is wrong with those people?

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Sunfyre7896

13 years ago

There's something seriously wrong when people can just walk and ride by like nothing happened. I've seen people do this to homeless who were hurt and even saw a video of a woman in a hospital who was either dying or dead in the waiting area of the emergency room for several hours before someone even noticed because she didn't look affluent. Sad, just sad. But this is a toddler dressed in clothes and all. Did they think the child was just some homeless kid to shirk off from helping? Even still, help the child. And how do the drivers of the 2 vehicles not watch where they're going? This is just wrong all the way around. I'm glad I don't live in China. Who would want to raise their children in an environment like that. Just plain ludicrous, insanity. I'm speechless after that.

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Elizabeth Fee

13 years ago

That just brought tears to my eyes. I have 3-year old twins and could not imagine or bear to think about leaving (IGNORING) a child that way. Makes me sick to my stomach, and now I must go hug and kiss my kids.

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thunderbird

13 years ago

This kind of news has always upset me, but now that we have a toddler at home, it is even more upsetting to me.

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QuickSurf

13 years ago

Hate to say it but this happens a lot over there and for whatever reason people just don't care or rarely do anything. I've see so many vids of people just hit, run over, sometimes literally severed in half by trucks over there... and people just casually walk on by and only sometimes do people help but only after minutes or 10's of minutes have passed by. I don't know what it is with people in the region when it comes to stuff like this.

Now apparently it's b/c god forbid you help you can be sued by the family and even charged b/c now they think you caused more injuries by helping said person/child that was hit. I don't think they have "good samaritan" law over there... which is some bs, so glad I don't live there.

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thunderbird

13 years ago

Originally Posted by QuickSurf

Hate to say it but this happens a lot over there <snip>

Where's "over there"?

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QuickSurf

13 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

Where's "over there"?

Uhhh China... think that was pretty clear? It took place in China if you didn't know. You can find thousands of videos like this (not just toddlers but people in general) getting hit or other accidents "over there" and people just casually walk on by. Pry b/c there's no "good samaritan" law over there that protects like there is in the U.S. I remember seeing a vid of a person in china run over by a truck who was barely alive (whole lower body crushed) yet people walked by like it was normal... then eventually a few people came to help. Or a vid of a pedestrian being hit crossing and flung through the air, and cars just continue driving around said person lying in the street. You won't exactly see nonchalant reactions like that in the U.S for example if something like that happens.

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thunderbird

13 years ago

Originally Posted by QuickSurf

Uhhh China... think that was pretty clear? It took place in China in you didn't know. You can find thousands of videos like this (not just toddlers but people in general) getting hit or other accidents "over there" and people just casually walk on by. Pry b/c there's no "good samaritan" law over there that protects like there is in the U.S. I remember seeing a vid of a person in china run over by a truck who was barely alive (whole lower body crushed) yet people walked by like it was normal... then eventually a few people came to help.

Did you live in China? You seem to be very sure of your expertise on the subject.

Here in Vancouver, a woman got swarmed by a bunch of teens and kicked and beaten. Nobody stopped to help and several minutes went by before someone called 911. I recall various such incidents in the United States. Remember this from right here?
http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...-poor-man.html

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QuickSurf

13 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

Did you live in China? You seem to be very sure of your expertise on the subject.

Here in Vancouver, a woman got swarmed by a bunch of teens and kicked and beaten. Nobody stopped to help and several minutes went by before someone called 911. I recall various such incidents in the United States. Remember this from right here?
http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...-poor-man.html

Nope, but have a good friend from there who will agree with me, as we just chatted online about this. the laws over there don't protect citizens if they try to help, you can be setup, charged or sued by the family even if they think that your "help" (i.e. moving the child off that pathway) caused more damage.

no offense but for the incidents you posted, you could find hundreds of similar vids like of people getting run over etc there and people barely batting an eye.

Posting about people getting beat up and nobody helping is completely different then somebody being run over or hit by cars. People will be hesitant to help someone being beat up as who knows if they'll get hurt, what weapons the person could have etc. Verse a person run over or hit, where that equation is removed. Can't compare the two incidents.

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thunderbird

13 years ago

Originally Posted by QuickSurf

Nope, but have a good friend from there who will agree with me, as we just chatted online about this.<snip>

I lived in China and speak the national language. I still don't possess the expertise on the country that you believe you have.

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QuickSurf

13 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

I lived in China and speak the language. I still don't possess the expertise on the country that you believe you have.

what expertise that I have :rolleyes: , could careless you speak the language. I guess my friend who lived there 27 years knows quite a bit more than me and seems to agree with me, so take that as you will. Do some research online and you'll see how common issues like this are in that region. Sure does bs happen in other countries like here in the states or canada, yup, but I'd bet cold hard cash that for each incident you find here you could find much much more there.

You can't compare the incidents you posted to this, a citizen(s) may not help durring a beating for fear of being hurt themselves, stabbed, shot whatever. A child is run over, what are you going to do, be afraid the 2 year old is going to pull a knife on you? Here's some info on the situation regarding samaritan law over in China: Bystander effect prompts call for Good Samaritan law in China - What's On Xiamen

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thunderbird

13 years ago

Originally Posted by QuickSurf

what expertise that I have :rolleyes: <snip>

Your ignorance is showing. With all due respect, you're full of sh*t.

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QuickSurf

13 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

Your ignorance is showing. With all due respect, you're full of sh*t.

huh? ok.. keep trying to twist my words around. Exactly where am I full of sh!t?

I guess my eyes are blind and I didn't read this
Bystander effect prompts call for Good Samaritan law in China - What's On Xiamen

"Bystander Effect" is a well known issue in China and researched plenty of times, you living there should know that. If not, well then you can see where your ignorance is showing.

Seems your trying to twist it to be racially motivated, if that's your thought of mind... then don't see how that's possible when I have some close friends from different regions of Asia. Like how you don't respond to the other info in the post like comparing the incidents, keep on carrying on "snipping"

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thunderbird

13 years ago

Originally Posted by QuickSurf

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Seems your trying to twist it to be racially motivated, if that's your thought of mind... <snip>

QuickSurf, I apologize. I never once thought you were bigoted or whatever. You've always struck me an an A-OK person, even when I wrote that crap. My nastiness was stupid and uncalled for and I won't try to justify it. I am sorry.

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QuickSurf

13 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

QuickSurf, I apologize. I never once thought you were bigoted or whatever. You've always struck me an an A-OK person, even when I wrote that crap. My nastiness was stupid and uncalled for and I won't try to justify it. I am sorry.

No problem, fig'd it just caught you on a bad day and anyone seeing this story would have their blood pumping. I realize what I wrote could sound like I was talking down China, which in no way was it intended to do so. I was actually just up in MI visiting, and one of them brought this up as he has been there a lot for business.... just a sad story.

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HeySal 13 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

Your ignorance is showing. With all due respect, you're full of sh*t.

TB - um....what's on, guy? It's not your style to attack someone for talking. You were in China - but that was a long time ago. Things change. Just like they did here in that last few decades. Take it easy. This is definitely an upsetting video - but people all over the world are doing some extremely upsetting things lately.

That's why we need to sit up and take notice. Real fast.

Quicksurf posted a good link. Let loose of him. I remember when people got so bad over here they had to post the same law.
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Kay King

13 years ago

For shock value, this is a biggie (and was posted here earlier by someone else).

But - I don't need to see videos like this. I can't stop what happened or help in any way. All it does is make me feel bad without the ability to do anything positive about it.

Don't mean to be crass - but there's no benefit for anyone half a globe away to see such a callous act. To me, this is a downside of the "communication age" - sometimes we see more than we need to see.

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HeySal

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

For shock value, this is a biggie (and was posted here earlier by someone else).

But - I don't need to see videos like this. I can't stop what happened or help in any way. All it does is make me feel bad without the ability to do anything positive about it.

Don't mean to be crass - but there's no benefit for anyone half a globe away to see such a callous act. To me, this is a downside of the "communication age" - sometimes we see more than we need to see.

I can't agree with that. I think it's exactly what we need to see. There are abuses and flagrant disconcern for life going on all over the globe. If we sweep it under the rug, we don't have to deal with the discomfort it causes to see pain or abuse inflicted.......but.........we need to see things which cause such discomfort so people can actually "SEE" what they are becoming. You can hear about it all day long and it won't really sink in like watching it happen. When we watch that film we can understand what humans are becoming. It gives us pause to question ourselves and become aware of what we are doing.

You are right - seeing this doesn't change that it happened - it won't bring that little girl back.......but the next time someone who watched this film sees someone in trouble, they may just stop and help. If things are degrading to the point this type of thing is an every day occurrence - our societies are breaking down faster than I had thought.

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Justin Says

13 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

I can't agree with that. I think it's exactly what we need to see. There are abuses and flagellant disconcern for life going on all over the globe. If we sweep it under the rug, we don't have to deal with the discomfort it causes to see pain or abuse inflicted.......but.........we need to see things which cause such discomfort so people can actually "SEE" what they are becoming. You can hear about it all day long and it won't really sink in like watching it happen. When we watch that film we can understand what humans are becoming. It gives us pause to question ourselves and become aware of what we are doing.

You are right - seeing this doesn't change that it happened - it won't bring that little girl back.......but the next time someone who watched this film sees someone in trouble, they may just stop and help. If things are degrading to the point this type of thing is an every day occurrence - our societies are breaking down faster than I had thought.

Absolutely agreed.

The response the guy made prior to yours was way off.

Imagine if we didn't know of something like this. Imagine if we didn't know of what happened during the holocaust or any major event in history. We'd never learn from our mistakes as the human race.

I personally would have done something. That's all I can say. I can share this video to show others how cold people can be and it cause them to rethink how they live life.

These types of things absolutely change people, even if it's in a small way. I can't change the event, but I can try my best to prevent something like this happening around me.

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Joe Mobley 13 years ago

Originally Posted by webcore

That's actually made me furious and I completely resent having watched it.

I was concerned that I might feel this way about the video.

Originally Posted by Kay King

But - I don't need to see videos like this.

Agreed. So I decided not to watch the video. There is enough conversation to carry the point without punishing myself.

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HeySal

13 years ago

Aoie. I might be one of the most stoic people in here - but that one was unbelievable. The lack of humanity is shocking. Even in countries where so many are dying in the streets that people become immune to stepping over them because there are too many to help - well, that is upsetting, but you can see how they can HAVE to shut down or it will drive them crazy. This situation wasn't shut down - this was just "don't give a rip".

Secondly, I am shocked that drivers over there would just hit and run like that. Aren't they subject to hit and run laws there? We get hit and runs, too, when people are scared of what will happen to them if they don't "disappear" fast - and pedestrians here are becoming so brain dead that they walk right out in front of moving cars. This kid didn't do that - she was already in the road in an area of slow traffic. How was she not seen in time to stop? The first driver committed what would be a criminal act here by leaving. What about the second driver? 2 hit and runs? Did he just not know it was a human he hit or was this also just didn't give a rip?

I have to go look for a "good news" story now to balance this out in my brain.

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Jonathan 2.0

Banned 13 years ago

I would have been over there like a bullet.

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waterotter

13 years ago

Every bystander who is of legal age should be charged and held accountable. I don't know how they live with themselves.

This is becoming all to common everywhere, nobody wants to get involved. Sickening, just absolutely sickening.

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alistair

13 years ago

I don't know why nobody helped the child, they are pretty callous.

Unfortunately it isn't that surprising or shocking and maybe that's the most disturbing thing.

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MissTerraK 13 years ago

Oh my Gosh!

These are the most despicable, horrendous, unacceptable acts of cruelty I have ever seen! It's like all of those passersby are like zombies without a heart or soul!!

I just cannot relate to or understand that at all!

But after I settled my nausea down and wiped the tears from my eyes, the first question that popped into my head was where was the mom or caregiver?

What the heck? When my children were toddlers, they were never out of my site nor are my grandbabies, now!

I understand little ones can try to meander away, but gone for a full seven minutes?

I can't help but think that if the mother were right there, the girl never would have had to suffer the back tires of that vehicle or anything that followed.

So tragic, so sad.

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Justin Says

13 years ago

Wow...

I was really hoping that this was fake.

I mean like seriously... what the hell is wrong with those idiots?

I organize a large community of motorcycles and when we see a pedestrian hurt, we go over and help them. No matter the cause or situation, we help.

But to see a child on the ground and no one helping?! Wow... this just blows me away and shows me the type of world we really live in.

One more thing...

I watched it again.

And I CRIED.

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Jonathan 2.0 Banned 13 years ago

I know what you mean Justin: It's worse the second time. : (
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lodgey

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Justin Lewis

Wow...

I was really hoping that this was fake.

I mean like seriously... what the hell is wrong with those idiots?

I organize a large community of motorcycles and when we see a pedestrian hurt, we go over and help them. No matter the cause or situation, we help.

But to see a child on the ground and no one helping?! Wow... this just blows me away and shows me the type of world we really live in.

One more thing...

I watched it again.

And I CRIED.

I'm glad someone else has come on and admitted that, the first time I watched that video it brought tears to my eyes. Absolutely sickening that no one stopped to help.

The fact the driver even realised he had run her over and then just continued.

I know someone mentioned the laws in China but how could anyone worry about money when they can hear a child in pain!

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QuickSurf 13 years ago

Originally Posted by lodgey

I know someone mentioned the laws in China but how could anyone worry about money when they can hear a child in pain!

Agree, and it's sad.
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Justin Says

13 years ago

Originally Posted by lodgey

I'm glad someone else has come on and admitted that, the first time I watched that video it brought tears to my eyes. Absolutely sickening that no one stopped to help.

The fact the driver even realised he had run her over and then just continued.

I know someone mentioned the laws in China but how could anyone worry about money when they can hear a child in pain!

Yep, I'm right there with ya. Screw my life. If someone else is in pain, I'd be right there beside them. I think people need to rethink how they go about living life.

As for those that are complaining, I'm going to be honest and quite blunt. SHUTUP. Stop fighting over stuff. If you don't have something nice to say, don't say it. Just leave the forum and go do something else with your time.

I hate when people begin disrespecting something like this aghkdDSKJ!

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cashtree

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Justin Lewis

Wow...

I was really hoping that this was fake.

I mean like seriously... what the hell is wrong with those idiots?

I organize a large community of motorcycles and when we see a pedestrian hurt, we go over and help them. No matter the cause or situation, we help.

But to see a child on the ground and no one helping?! Wow... this just blows me away and shows me the type of world we really live in.

One more thing...

I watched it again.

And I CRIED.

I cried too brother

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derekwong28

13 years ago

This is now on the frontpage of CNN international and was on the frontpage of BBC and other networks.

If one or two heartless individuals passed, then it could just be an anomaly. But when there are at least 18, then that has definitely got to do with the local culture. The sad thing is that if the first few had intervened, the girl would not have been hit by the second car. I agree all those who passed should be identified, named and shamed.

Foshan is one of the last cities in China you would expect this to happen. It is China's "garden city" and one of the most livable in China. Its inhabitants are supposed to have a very high degree of civic pride. It is also backdrop of the "Yip Man" movie. But things have moved on so far in China that you don't really know. For example, 5 times more people own cars than 10 years ago.

Hong Kong is supposed to be a very greedy and heartless city as well, but I can't imagine something like this happening over here. I see people not giving up their seats in buses for very old people and heavily pregnant mothers here all the time. Yet when I was in China, they would give their seats up readily when my wife was pregnant years ago.

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

13 years ago

Forget it, Jake...

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michael26a

13 years ago

OMG, that is the most horrific and heart breaking video I have ever seen

My thoughts are with this poor toddler, how can people be so cruel and evil. I'm glad I wasn't there, I would have killed that person in the van who ran her over!

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paintingsgalore22

13 years ago

A very heartless act . . God doesn't sleep, someday you will get what you deserve. Karma! and for the parents of that kid. WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU???? Letting your kid roam around without any adult by her side..

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dagaul101

13 years ago

It's shocking the stuff that happens these days, and the attitude of members of the public who don't want to interfere because they don't want the hassle

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JustinDupre

13 years ago

Tsk tsk.. this is just so very wrong.

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Justin Says

13 years ago

Here's the report from CNN for anyone that wants to see it.

http://www.foxcrawl.com/2011/10/18/s...ross-internet/

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HeySal

13 years ago

I'm hearing talk of "bystander effect" -- where the hell is the crowd? I don't see a crowd. I see INDIVIDUALS passing by here and there but how does that translate into discussions of bystander effect? This problem is much more complex than can be explained by that issue. This is full blown depersonalization.

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QuickSurf

13 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

I'm hearing talk of "bystander effect" -- where the hell is the crowd? I don't see a crowd. I see INDIVIDUALS passing by here and there but how does that translate into discussions of bystander effect? This problem is much more complex than can be explained by that issue. This is full blown depersonalization.

Think it's a combination of those two and definitely desensitization, they do have a big problem with B.E., but with this child it was more like desensitization/depersonalization w/o a doubt. People said store owners/people in that area said to mind their own business to the few that tried to help. The driver apparently told the father of the child that what was his account number and how much money did he want. crazy.....

Imagine that happened, I don't, say here in FL. Kid get's run over in a plaza, no way in hell are store owners going to say "mind your own business" to people asking or trying to help.

here's another article that went further about those issues:
http://www.smh.com.au/world/toddler-...#ixzz1bBMuyUgn

A study by Professor Yunxiang Yan, an anthropologist at University of California, Los Angeles, found that China's traditional morality code still applies strictly to existing relationships but that it has struggled to adapt to a modern world where strangers frequently interact.

A reluctance to help has been exacerbated by prominent cases of extortion where Good Samaritans have been ripped off by those they have helped.

The argument is that the helper must have contributed to the injury otherwise they would not have helped.

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

13 years ago

The license and van (and second truck) is right there on camera...(albeit blurred to us, but it can be digitized)
They had to have at least made arrests in this open and shut case...those people drive and walk down that street everyday...

or at least they used to...

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whateverpedia

13 years ago

I didn't watch the video, couldn't bring myself to do it.

It also made SBS news here in Australia, but I didn't watch it on there either. I listened to the commentary, and it mentioned the graphic bits had been edited out, but I still couldn't bring myself to watch it.

I thought every living species had it hard coded into their DNA to protect the young.

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HeySal 13 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

I thought every living species had it hard coded into their DNA to protect the young.

There are a lot of instincts that are being subverted by laws, etc. People are hardwired to defend themselves, too - but when attacked they are not fighting back because of fear of prosecution -
People's brains will start working on prima facae - weighing whether it is safer to defend themselves or not and the result is hesitation that is sometimes fatal.

We are also programmed to be pack animals - not social in the same way as ants - yet we are now living in overcrowded societies. We don't have the personal connections with our own "pack" as we used to, and corporations are inducing an ant like worker specialization environment rather than a natural one.

We're lucky we have any working instincts at all right now.
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Kurt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

I didn't watch the video, couldn't bring myself to it.

It also made SBS news here in Australia, but I didn't watch it on there either. I listened to the commentary, and it mentioned the graphic bits had been edited out, but I still couldn't bring myself to watch it.

I thought every living species had it hard coded into their DNA to protect the young.

Many species will canibalize their young.

Male bears and male lions will kill cubs to get the females to go into heat again.

Many mothers will abandon any offspring that are different or deformed. They may even kill a baby if they can smell anything wrong, such as disease.

I thought part of being human was to over-come these instincts and help those that can't help themselves.

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13 years ago

Whoa! I couldn't bring myself to keep watching that. I too have a difficult time understanding how that could happen.

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Jun Balona

13 years ago

It's sickening to say the least. If that first vehicle intended to escape and it happened in my hometown (and if many witnessed it), that guy wouldn't go anywhere (and he would definitely have some serious ass whooping by the bystanders).

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Riggs

13 years ago

My already cynical view of modern society just sank to a new low. I don't even know what to say...

It's depressing to think future generations will be forced to live in a world like this.

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waterotter

13 years ago

This story has hit the news airways big time in Ontario Canada.

People are outraged, rightfully so. They are reporting both drivers have been arrested. The first driver was talking on his cell phone when he hit the child.

I cannot believe she is still alive, but unfortunately should she live, she will be brain-dead. That is what is being reported here.

So sad and disturbing.

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HeySal

13 years ago

I saw that she's died Jody. After watching tires crush her tiny body, I expected that. I knew a very large man that was run over by a car when they were all horsing around in a driveway and it killed him although he survived a day or so.

The only thing more outrageous than the child being run over by someone talking on a cellphone (I've almost been hit while walking my dog by the same type of idiot), is that he actually offered to just pay daddy off. I think if the father had killed him on the spot it would have been excusable rage. -- He could have just said he was talking on a cell phone at the time, I guess, eh?

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seasoned

13 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

I saw that she's died Jody. After watching tires crush her tiny body, I expected that. I knew a very large man that was run over by a car when they were all horsing around in a driveway and it killed him although he survived a day or so.

The only thing more outrageous than the child being run over by someone talking on a cellphone (I've almost been hit while walking my dog by the same type of idiot), is that he actually offered to just pay daddy off. I think if the father had killed him on the spot it would have been excusable rage. -- He could have just said he was talking on a cell phone at the time, I guess, eh?

Well, I once knew a REALLY nice guy that once left a door open to his garage or something, and went to cut something with a power saw JUST as his little daughter scampered in and ran in between them. He said it was like the biggest scare he had in his life. Oh, she ended up fine. But MAN! Yeah, ANYTHING could happen.

If it were me, I might accept the deal, but HOW do you get like $1,000,000 or 200% of everything the person might make in a year for the rest their life, whichever is bigger, for every year they somehow manage to live, with a minimum of say $10B 1950 USD? How could you make it enforcable? I mean the experiences, the memory, the life, the future, and they think they can pay for it? INCREDIBLE! BTW does ANYONE even have 10B 1950 USD? I mean in TODAY'S dollars that might be like 200B or more! That might be more than anyone in te walmart family put together, and is more than soros, buffett, and gates put together.

As for those that passed by, I can understand it. If you come near the scene, or know about it, you may be deemed GUILTY! The same sort of thing happens in the US.

The idea of hitting, or running over a kid has NO excuse.

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imdec123 13 years ago

The little girl died... I saw it on the news today... So sad...
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waterotter

13 years ago

Sal, thanks for the update. I don't want to seem callus, but in the back of my mind, that was the outcome I was "praying" for.

What's your quality of life being connected to a life-support system....she was way to young to live a life dependent on machinery.

Every day there is something happening that makes me "like" this world just a little bit less. I know I won't have a hard time saying goodbye when my time comes.

This is where a gratitude journal can be really effective as the bad seems to out way the good.

My thoughts and prayers are with she and her family.

R.I.P. little angel.

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derekwong28

13 years ago

There is a massive Internet campaign to identify all the passers-by, to confront and shame them. Of the few who have been identified, they have said either they didn't see the child or thought she wasn't seriously injured. The "good samaritan" who eventually called for help have been awarded thousands of dollars by the local government which she said will be donated to the child's family.

Still it doesn't hide the fact that what has happened is probably the norm in that city and many places in China as a whole. This incident happened to be captured by a video camera. The chances are that there are even worse incidents that are not recorded.

In the meantime, more troublesome details have emerged. It is probably that nearby shopkeepers saw what happened as well and they did not do anything either. In fact, angry customers have now confronted the shopkeepers. The driver of the first car knew he had run over the toddler. But he drove off, running over her again perhaps in the hope that he would pay less compensation if she were dead. I think there is definitely a good case here of attempted murder.

The child appears to be still alive. Her mother is quoted as crying ""Give Mom another chance to love you". But the prognosis is extremely bad. But make no mistake about it, this is the moment of shame for China and for Chinese all over the world.

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thunderbird

13 years ago

Originally Posted by derekwong28

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Still it doesn't hide the fact that what has happened is probably the norm in that city and many places in China as a whole. This incident happened to be captured by a video camera. The chances are that there are even worse incidents that are not recorded. <snip>

As you know, Derek, China is huge and complex. With that in mind, how can generalizations be accurate? China has 56 officially recognized ethnic groups and dozens of languages. Ghuizou Province alone has 13 distinct ethnic groups with their own distinct languages. Canada is a light cakewalk compared to China, yet generalizations of people on my block in Vancouver wouldn't be accurate, never mind the culture of Vancouver as a whole vs Sudbury, Ontario or small towns in Saskatchewan. Or how about Quebec where French is the main language or First Nations people. See what I mean? Pointless speculation at best and accuracy is impossible.

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seasoned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by derekwong28

But the prognosis is extremely bad. But make no mistake about it, this is the moment of shame for China and for Chinese all over the world.

Well, it could be said that this is not necessarily the worst for china, but chinese people are like people everywhere else. There are good and bad.

It IS ironic that if people knew there were cameras there, the driver would likely have been more careful, so it may not have happened. The bke rider would have known there was evidence to exonerate him on claims, and he might have seen a direct benefit, and reported it.

It is ALSO ironic that the behavor of police and "law" may have made this more likely!

Things like this happen ALL over! I WISH we could say it was limited to China.

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derekwong28

13 years ago

This is a "Josef Fritzl moment' for China. Just as Josef Fritzl does not represent the whole Austria, nor does this incident represent the whole of China. But what both indicates is that there is something wrong going on in those countries that is conducive to this sort of behavior.

Just asked anyone over the age of 40 in China and I am sure most will agree that there has been a profound deterioration in morals and ethics over the past 30 years. It used to be said that China is one of the countries in the world where a tourist can lose their wallet anywhere and can be assured that it will be found. Just how many places in China can you say this now? The truth is after the Tienanmen massacre, the Chinese government open encouraged greed in order to make the young people less idealistic. This is why so many people in China are nostalgic of the Mao era.

Now in Hong Kong, nobody here will disagree that we have got a very greedy, selfish and uncaring society here. Here, nobody knows who their neighbors are. One radio station commentator lamented recently that in Hong Kong, the only conversation is money and nothing else. But at least based on the records of past accidents here, if the same accident had occurred, the likelihood is that the first driver would have been dragged from his car and got beaten up.

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ibnujusup

13 years ago

it really make you hate so much of these people... :-(
whats wrong with helping this child...crazzy minded people...

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rootz91

13 years ago

wtf this vid is uncensored??
so miserable the prople are...when I saw the vid on TV it's completely censored and I can't see what actually happened. Good thing that the kid has been hospitalized. But screw the pedestrians