does anyone have any experience with mass profit sites?

by alefa
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i just came across this program . and i am looking for some honest feedback from people that have tried it. or knows someone that has

thank you for some feedback. i love forums
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  • Profile picture of the author Tek Scavenger
    No experience but overviewing it there is one major flaw: it uses subdomains. This means those sites are not likely to get nearly the SEO results promised, so you'd probably still be stuck doing the manual backlinking and social marketing to get people to see it.

    I could be wrong, but there's have to be some real "magic" in the code if I am.
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    • Profile picture of the author alefa
      Thank you Tek Scavengar

      i am such a newbie i don't even know what back linking is.
      can i ask you what do you do to make money online?
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  • Profile picture of the author Tek Scavenger
    I started with IFW trading which so far has been the only thing that was profitable from the start but a pain to manage and not sustainable ("offers of doom" are abound and you run out of options quickly).

    I searched a few other programs and found PIPS as the most promising for a sustainable income. I haven't made a penny on it yet (not even breaking even) but the model is right, so I'm convinced if I keep at it I will eventually succeed. I'm Kind of in crisis mode right now which has led to a state of disorganization which is costing me big right now, not pretty. Basically, I'm not the guy to ask for marketing advice right now (still pretty noobish and not successful).

    On the other hand I am a Linux expert and a former ISP tech support rep with some computer science schooling from WPI, so from a technical standpoint I do know what I'm talking about. Usually (I apparently can still misread signs).

    If you are relying on a website to bring in customers/clients/future associates or affiliates or whatever, you need to get that site tuned for a given keyword, and do some various tasks to get that site up to the front page of search engines, especially Google. There are some various rules to Search Engine Optimization (SEO) you need to follow to get your ranking as high as possible. One of the first is to use your main keyword in your root domain whenever possible. The root part is important, as that's all the search engine is looking at for both name and content.

    A subdomain is a prefix to a root domain. Say you have website.com as your root (which will automatically load with www.website.com), you might have a support.website.com and blog.website.com to quickly jump to different pages with their own directory structures to make them easier to manage. Subdomains are pretty much ignored by a search engine as the search engine is looking at the root content and looking at the subdomain as an extension of the root domain and not as a separate site. This makes ranking for a subdomain very difficult to almost impossible. As long as there are incoming links, a subdomain will get indexed but generally it will not be treated as its own site so simply doesn't rank; you have to do a VERY specific search to even find it.

    Another rule for SEO is generally, the more links that point to your site, the more credibility or authority your site has, especially if those links come from sites with similar content as yours. Thus, to help your rank you'd go out and plaster your link in as many places as you can get away with. This is called backlinking. Everyone hates it, but it many times is a necessary evil. Done smart it is good for advertising.

    The content of your site itself is also important. When writing pages and building articles, you want to use your keyword when you can, but you also want to use related keywords. Simply spamming your keyword all over your page will actually get you blacklisted or sandboxed, so you want to write "organic" easy to read posts which include various related keywords. Google's own keyword tool is one of the best to use to figure out which other keywords you should be including.

    I'm writing this long post not so much for or against Mass Profits Sites as more a quick pointer that may help you with PIPS or any other site you may run as well. It also helps if you can plan things out a bit. I didn't know quite what I was getting into when I first started PIPS so I chose a bad domain name for this project. Knowing what it is now I would have chosen something very different but I'm pretty committed now and at least with the chosen name and free hosting I do have some flexibility which I will exploit when I have more time (which is very lacking right now, I'm more busy trying to save my apartment).

    Hope this gives you some ideas.
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    • Profile picture of the author alefa
      Originally Posted by Tek Scavenger View Post

      I started with IFW trading which so far has been the only thing that was profitable from the start but a pain to manage and not sustainable ("offers of doom" are abound and you run out of options quickly).

      I searched a few other programs and found PIPS as the most promising for a sustainable income. I haven't made a penny on it yet (not even breaking even) but the model is right, so I'm convinced if I keep at it I will eventually succeed. I'm Kind of in crisis mode right now which has led to a state of disorganization which is costing me big right now, not pretty. Basically, I'm not the guy to ask for marketing advice right now (still pretty noobish and not successful).

      On the other hand I am a Linux expert and a former ISP tech support rep with some computer science schooling from WPI, so from a technical standpoint I do know what I'm talking about. Usually (I apparently can still misread signs).

      If you are relying on a website to bring in customers/clients/future associates or affiliates or whatever, you need to get that site tuned for a given keyword, and do some various tasks to get that site up to the front page of search engines, especially Google. There are some various rules to Search Engine Optimization (SEO) you need to follow to get your ranking as high as possible. One of the first is to use your main keyword in your root domain whenever possible. The root part is important, as that's all the search engine is looking at for both name and content.

      A subdomain is a prefix to a root domain. Say you have website.com as your root (which will automatically load with www.website.com), you might have a support.website.com and blog.website.com to quickly jump to different pages with their own directory structures to make them easier to manage. Subdomains are pretty much ignored by a search engine as the search engine is looking at the root content and looking at the subdomain as an extension of the root domain and not as a separate site. This makes ranking for a subdomain very difficult to almost impossible. As long as there are incoming links, a subdomain will get indexed but generally it will not be treated as its own site so simply doesn't rank; you have to do a VERY specific search to even find it.

      Another rule for SEO is generally, the more links that point to your site, the more credibility or authority your site has, especially if those links come from sites with similar content as yours. Thus, to help your rank you'd go out and plaster your link in as many places as you can get away with. This is called backlinking. Everyone hates it, but it many times is a necessary evil. Done smart it is good for advertising.

      The content of your site itself is also important. When writing pages and building articles, you want to use your keyword when you can, but you also want to use related keywords. Simply spamming your keyword all over your page will actually get you blacklisted or sandboxed, so you want to write "organic" easy to read posts which include various related keywords. Google's own keyword tool is one of the best to use to figure out which other keywords you should be including.

      I'm writing this long post not so much for or against Mass Profits Sites as more a quick pointer that may help you with PIPS or any other site you may run as well. It also helps if you can plan things out a bit. I didn't know quite what I was getting into when I first started PIPS so I chose a bad domain name for this project. Knowing what it is now I would have chosen something very different but I'm pretty committed now and at least with the chosen name and free hosting I do have some flexibility which I will exploit when I have more time (which is very lacking right now, I'm more busy trying to save my apartment).

      Hope this gives you some ideas.
      -Tek
      thank you so much for your insight and input. i really appreciate it
      now i know what back linking is

      soon as i have some feedback or some helpful tips i will most certainly give back

      thank you.
      alefa
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      • Profile picture of the author Darryl Smith
        alefa
        Backlinking is, as noted by Tek an absolute pain in the bad place. I have not heard anyone say it is easy or that they like doing it - except as a service. There are a lot of people who are out there who are quick to take your money and then run. However, there are some genuine people who are there to help.

        I stumbled across a backlinking system which I have found recently and now use. Please check out my signature box below.

        There is no magic bullet, but there are some targeted helpers!

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        • Profile picture of the author alefa
          thank you Darryl i will def check it out
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          • Profile picture of the author alefa
            Originally Posted by alefa View Post

            thank you Darryl i will def check it out
            hey daryll,

            i checked out the social monkey and am trying tha free trial. it seems to be legit and very helpful.. how long have you been using this service ? did you upgrade?

            i have been reading that spinners give you a high percentage of getting shutdown because of duplicates and things like that.
            have you heard of this?

            also do you have any personal tips or strategies for this service ?

            thank you
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    • Profile picture of the author alefa
      hey tech can i ask you if you took advantage of any of the paid marketing that pips is recommending . if so which ones ? and what kind of experience did you have

      I ACTUALLY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF PAULS BACKLINKING WHERE YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO GET LIKE 50N WEBSITES TO BACKINK AND I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT RECOMMEND THIS SERVICE IT WAS EIGHT DOLLARS AND I AM TRYING TO GET MT MONEY BACK RIGHT NOW(GO FIGURE $8 get wat u pay for) out of the 50 some like 22-23 was not able to
      access or should i say get the job done so u get the point

      when i do have something to recommend that i find works i will def share it

      alefa
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    • Profile picture of the author kent499
      Thanks Tek!
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      • Profile picture of the author Melford Bibens
        I figured I owed my fellow warriors this.

        A proof video I shot a couple of days ago of only member sites-my team didn't make any of the sites you're about to see-

        Proof | Mass Profit Sites

        Don't worry, it's a pure proof video, doesn't even have a buy button on it.

        Those of you that really know me, know how much my Wife Concetta and I put into our products.

        I hope this video clears the air.

        Thanks, Melford Bibens
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        • Profile picture of the author jdjenkins
          Hi Melford - I was just wondering how many sites we can make with your software, as I don't think the sales video mentions this point,

          thanks,

          Jon.


          Originally Posted by Melford Bibens View Post

          I figured I owed my fellow warriors this.

          A proof video I shot a couple of days ago of only member sites-my team didn't make any of the sites you're about to see-

          Proof | Mass Profit Sites

          Don't worry, it's a pure proof video, doesn't even have a buy button on it.

          Those of you that really know me, know how much my Wife Concetta and I put into our products.

          I hope this video clears the air.

          Thanks, Melford Bibens
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        • Profile picture of the author Marita23
          Hello, what about hosting? traffic? any monthly payments? Do you have just amazon and clickbank, not CJ or CPA and GOOGLE ADSENSE?
          Thank you,

          Marita
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          • Profile picture of the author RobertoMejia
            Originally Posted by Marita23 View Post

            Hello, what about hosting? traffic? any monthly payments? Do you have just amazon and clickbank, not CJ or CPA and GOOGLE ADSENSE?
            Thank you,

            Marita
            Hosting is free. There are no monthly payments. They only offer ClickBank and Amazon. No CJ or Adsense.

            Traffic is up to you to generate. They do fill your website full of content so that traffic should naturally come to your website, but I would not count on it. Personally, I would rather rely on building some backlinks myself.
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            • Profile picture of the author TBRosie
              Originally Posted by RobertoMejia View Post

              Hosting is free. There are no monthly payments. They only offer ClickBank and Amazon. No CJ or Adsense.

              Traffic is up to you to generate. They do fill your website full of content so that traffic should naturally come to your website, but I would not count on it. Personally, I would rather rely on building some backlinks myself.
              You are so wrong Robert,
              I am charged almost $50 a month, some are paying $100 a month
              I get to generate a site a day if u pay the $100 a month you get more sites

              BUT it is a sub domain and I was told to just let them do it.. but if i wanted i could go to the FAQ and get some ideas.. well the ideas they gave me are so out dated and is info that was going around the net years ago.. there is NO blog to join to ask questions or get ideas.. I think they deliberately keep members apart so that we don't get talking among ourselves... not hard to work out what most of us would be saying

              here is a link to an eg of what you get.. take note of the old info that is so out of date but is passed off as new info.. (Top right hand corner .. Blue text) Darn I cant post links grrr

              Remember it is a sub domain so u have to go to the second page


              I'm not allowed to post images or links here.. if you want profe PM me and i will show you what I get (got) for my monthly $50 fee

              stuff all is stuff all in anyones language

              EDIT

              Since I dont have a post count of 50 I cant send PMs.. so in theory this site prevents you finding out the truth...

              Just let me say.. I made no money and it cost me $50 a month for the pleasure.. and regardless of of what anyone tells you..I did what the top dogs told me to do and i till made zero.
              I would love to be sitting here telling you that i made a bucket of money.. but i didnt and nor will anyone else
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              • Profile picture of the author lloydforbang
                Originally Posted by TBRosie View Post

                You are so wrong Robert,
                I am charged almost $50 a month, some are paying $100 a month
                I get to generate a site a day if u pay the $100 a month you get more sites

                BUT it is a sub domain and I was told to just let them do it.. but if i wanted i could go to the FAQ and get some ideas.. well the ideas they gave me are so out dated and is info that was going around the net years ago.. there is NO blog to join to ask questions or get ideas.. I think they deliberately keep members apart so that we don't get talking among ourselves... not hard to work out what most of us would be saying

                here is a link to an eg of what you get.. take note of the old info that is so out of date but is passed off as new info.. (Top right hand corner .. Blue text) Darn I cant post links grrr

                Remember it is a sub domain so u have to go to the second page


                I'm not allowed to post images or links here.. if you want profe PM me and i will show you what I get (got) for my monthly $50 fee

                stuff all is stuff all in anyones language

                EDIT

                Since I dont have a post count of 50 I cant send PMs.. so in theory this site prevents you finding out the truth...

                Just let me say.. I made no money and it cost me $50 a month for the pleasure.. and regardless of of what anyone tells you..I did what the top dogs told me to do and i till made zero.
                I would love to be sitting here telling you that i made a bucket of money.. but i didnt and nor will anyone else
                Even though Melford keeps pointing us to this proof video which he made on the 1st of November to 'proove' that Mass Profit sites actually works, I am still skeptical because I am yet to meet or hear from anyone else who has made a single penny using Mass Profit Sites. I bought the programme on the 31st of October, which means I have now owned it for more than five weeks and have used it to create more than a thousand sites but am yet to see a single penny in sales! I would therefore be grateful if Mr Melford can come on this forum and show us any evidence (other than the now tired early "proof" video) to confirm his claim that Mass Profit Sites actually does work. I would really be overjoyed if he could explain why people who have spent more than a month using it and created more than a thousand sites a still making no money at all. Lloyd
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    • Profile picture of the author dragnhaze
      I haven't heard of the term PIPs before, can you explain what that is exactly? Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Louielou
        I bought into this system and it was a complete waste of time. When I asked for a refund they basically refused to give me a refund and was told to try harder. I asked again for a refund which they then only gave me a 25% refund as that is their policy. I went through the video and small print and found that this was not mentioned anywhere. I could be wrong but I didn't see it any where! So beware!
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      • Profile picture of the author Techono
        Originally Posted by dragnhaze View Post

        I haven't heard of the term PIPs before, can you explain what that is exactly? Thanks
        F Y I.
        PIPS stands for Plug In Profit System. There is a forum dedicated to it on the main Warrior Forum page: The Plug-In Profit Site Forum .
        By Stone Evans. Apparently there is a new version available.
        I can neither confirm nor refute the PIPS model.
        So do your due diligence (read about it, on Warrior and general internet).
        Hope to have helped
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        • Profile picture of the author dragnhaze
          Thanks Techono, will be looking at more info on it asap
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  • Profile picture of the author TBRosie
    Well Melford Bibens.. I dont know you but I am going to trust you.... cheers

    PS

    I just hope it is a once only payment and not a monthly payment as I have been stung before
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  • Profile picture of the author TBRosie
    Ok please clear this up for me

    I cancelled the $97 per month deal
    and subscribed to the $47 a month deal
    BUT now i have an invoice for both???

    Please fix this up as I have no way of maintaining the payments
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    • Profile picture of the author Lee Riddell
      Originally Posted by TBRosie View Post

      Ok please clear this up for me

      I cancelled the $97 per month deal
      and subscribed to the $47 a month deal
      BUT now i have an invoice for both???

      Please fix this up as I have no way of maintaining the payments

      just go to clickbank and cancel it there . also there was NO monthly deal when i bought it.. just a one time payment.
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  • Profile picture of the author TBRosie
    Thank you so much Lee, I will go do as u suggest

    I think that you need to check your account as it will be taking $97 out every month
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  • Profile picture of the author AndreeaA
    Hi guys. Paul' backlinks are pretty reliable, I bought the October package and I can see some of them already pointing back to my site in alexa.com. The package has around 65 in fact, and just 15 -16 could be seen there. But I built many other backlinks (not Paul's) and I cannot see them at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author freindly
      Originally Posted by AndreeaA View Post

      Hi guys. Paul' backlinks are pretty reliable, I bought the October package and I can see some of them already pointing back to my site in alexa.com. The package has around 65 in fact, and just 15 -16 could be seen there. But I built many other backlinks (not Paul's) and I cannot see them at all.
      I too agree with this guy.
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  • Profile picture of the author viki2viki
    Hi Melford,

    I'm using your product for the last 10 days. I have got 10 sites now and so far none of them are even listed in any search engines. If it takes more than 10 days to list my sites in search engines, those products i'm promoting in those sites won't be "Hot selling" anymore because they are already 10 days old !!! I sent a mail to support team and i got a generic reply telling that i can see traffic to my sites within a week which is not happening.

    Please Help !!!
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  • Profile picture of the author RobertoMejia
    Originally Posted by alefa View Post

    i just came across this program . and i am looking for some honest feedback from people that have tried it. or knows someone that has

    thank you for some feedback. i love forums
    To answer your original question, I bought it, and it works well.

    It is extremely store to use, and it creates fully maintained websites instantly. I was very surprised how easy it is to create a website. I have not seen any money from the sites yet, but it hasn't been very long.

    You read my full review at my website, http://massprofitsitesreviews.org/.
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    • Profile picture of the author alefa
      robertomejia

      thank you for your feedback,

      greatly appreciated
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  • Profile picture of the author dragnhaze
    I have an honest review of the program if you would like to check it out- check me, dragnhaze, out on hubpages.com There are no affiliate links to buying the product however there are links to more good honest information I hope you find it useful.
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  • Profile picture of the author chrislangley
    Right now I would be extremely cautious of any site promising mass profits, like any affiliate program, it is a numbers game, if you can get traffic that can convert then you stand a chance of making some cash, but steer clear of sites that promise you a fortune for an affiliate program that is no different from any other
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  • Profile picture of the author TBRosie
    why do we need to go to review sites?
    You are hearing it from the horses mouth...

    Dont waste yr money
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    • Profile picture of the author Lee Riddell
      Originally Posted by TBRosie View Post

      why do we need to go to review sites?
      You are hearing it from the horses mouth...

      Dont waste yr money
      I agree dont waste your money ive had a few of there sites up for a while and dont even see any evidence of a click yet alone a sale. It is a good idea but only if you are using your subdomains and not someone elses.

      Also when you do try to get a refund they try to pursude you to give it time which i did so asked again for a refund and this is the mesage i got back.

      We are sorry to hear that you have requested to cancel your Mass Profit Sites purchase. We have provided a wealth of training opportunities within the FAQ bonus materials which could help you succeed with our system.

      If you are experiencing any technical problems we have a dedicated support team standing by to help.

      Unfortunately our refund policy is to refund the purchase price of any defective products. We offer no guarantee for performance or satisfaction.

      We are issuing a 25% refund on your purchase; however, we will keep your account fully active so that you can make the most of the Mass Profit Sites system.

      Thank You

      Jill

      so i guess its legal now to rip people off
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      • Profile picture of the author TBRosie
        Clickbank refused my refund request...

        You have to now unsubscribe to stop the monthly payments.. that's the only way to get out of the expensive mess that you are in


        Now that I have seen how he operates I will NEVER buy or get involved in anything Melford or his wife are involved in
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        • Profile picture of the author Lee Riddell
          Originally Posted by TBRosie View Post

          Clickbank refused my refund request...

          You have to now unsubscribe to stop the monthly payments.. that's the only way to get out of the expensive mess that you are in


          Now that I have seen how he operates I will NEVER buy or get involved in anything Melford or his wife are involved in
          Im not paying any monthly fees for this, i only payed the one time payment of £32.58 + Tax: £6.52 Total:£39.10

          And my refund is 25% of the price £9.78 so ive been robbed £30

          Think il hand this over to consumer services here in the uk that deal with customer complaints
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  • Profile picture of the author Lee Riddell
    One more thing, he claims that his software picks out the best product based on what is selling best on the internet.

    One of the products i was told was selling best on the internet by the software was about Anal Sex, like yeah thats the best selling product.
    The amazon products and blog articles are not even related to what ever product your selling.

    if you dont like the product it has requested just hit the back button and it will pick another, so i guess it just picks any clickbank product at random.
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  • Profile picture of the author TBRosie
    I doubt u will get anywhere getting more money back .. but in saying that you have made me thinking about trying to get at least my 25% back LOL

    I feel sorry for affiliates selling his product because the refunds statistics must be very high
    The guy just jumps from one product to another.. no support for anything you get from him.. he takes your money and runs
    I look at it this way learning is learning about bad as well as good.. we just had our lesson on bad.. remember his name and move on

    So many others try and help you along.. try to stick with guys who have a good name/reputation, I get surprised how much effort some give
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    • Profile picture of the author lonegunman
      Thanks for the info guys... I am new to internet marketing and was just about to hit the add to cart button... Glad i checked WF first saved me $97
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  • Profile picture of the author Aussiegazz
    Stay away from it no sales and will suck you dry
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  • Profile picture of the author Aussiegazz
    Avoid Mass Profit Sites it's a scam with plenty of promises and that is all and you will not get your money back during the 60 day period I have tried and purchased the 50 sites a day have over 4,000 websites not made a cent. Trying to get my money back through click bank.
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  • Profile picture of the author TBRosie
    AussieGazz you're not the aussie guy he mentions in his promotion of the product are you?

    Beware he has quiet a few other offers out there guys so always check before you buy.
    His lack of help or communication is good enough reason to avoid him, even if he was to sell something that might work

    ... gaz drop me an email
    look at my name, the tb stands for what john williams sings about, it could be a red head or a fight
    " hey t.. b... rosie then just add gmail
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    • Profile picture of the author georgieboy628
      I have 5,272 MPsites now and have not made one CENT!
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      • Profile picture of the author psresearch
        Somebody just posted on my blog:
        "I purchased the 50/day site builder, with the $97.00/month daily content update. First off everything works but the part where you make money. I am now at 118 days, and have 5900 sites built (that's right 5900), to date they have not made one red cent, nor have i seen any of mine listed on any search engine.

        I have over $700.00 invested as of this writing, do you think I could get my money back (Ha Ha). From this nothing else need be said, except I'd like to find someone who has made some money from this program???"
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        • Profile picture of the author georgieboy628
          Hi - I have 10,490 sites now - when building then I also get backlinks from several softwares and sites as well as submitting then to multi search engins - I also get pins for all sites - but as yet have still not made one cent - Google will not list my sites for siome reason - they are all on a subdomain - cannot get any ranking - waste of time and money - I keep trying only to get my investment back - Or should I call it losses back!!! George youtube =: themoneypadsite
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  • Profile picture of the author kevinmartinjr
    Any internet marketing program, especially if their asking for your money, should be properly researched. Careful what review sites you check as well because there are paid review sites the company pays to operate
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      Originally Posted by kevinmartinjr View Post

      Any internet marketing program, especially if their asking for your money, should be properly researched. Careful what review sites you check as well because there are paid review sites the company pays to operate
      yeah I agree with you on this 100 %
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    Yes, I have experience with services. Online services. Some such as hosting.
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