Just when you thought you'd seen it all, water is useless

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According to the EU and their version of the FDA, water does NOT prevent dehydration. LoL Where do they get these "scientists?"

www telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8897662/EU-bans-claim-that-water-can-prevent-dehydration.html
  • Profile picture of the author ThomM
    I was reading that earlier.
    I think they heard about us classifying pizza as a vegetable because of the tomato sauce (which is a fruit by the way) and figured they would top us in stupidity.
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  • Profile picture of the author Doran Peck
    What you are seeing is "Money" influencing leadership. Obviously the science is flawed but someone has an agenda and wants the law to be a certain way so to gain an advantage in their own market.

    Just recently a client of mine...a health food store, told me there is a law against displaying any kind of educational information right next to a product if it is organic or natural. The BigPharm industry pushed for this law and got their way.

    What the common man or woman still today hasn't fully digested is that there are very few laws ever made that aren't for the benefit of the Rich, or corporate strong.
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    • Profile picture of the author David McKee
      Originally Posted by Doran Peck View Post

      Just recently a client of mine...a health food store, told me there is a law against displaying any kind of educational information right next to a product if it is organic or natural. The BigPharm industry pushed for this law and got their way.
      I plan on breaking that law in my website - I am placing all kinds of nutritional information and ebooks, courses, etc. right next to links to purchase organic food. Sometimes you just have to tell the law-makes to stuff it where the sun don't shine.

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  • It is just AMAZING the world has survived up until now without this knowledge!

    How have plants and animals adapted to this worthless liquid?

    Does the Koala know something we don't know?

    Good thing we have Coca Cola, and "sports drinks" to save us now

    I expect the law of gravity to be repealed at any moment - if you want to keep your stuff from floating away...you best tie it down...
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post

      It is just AMAZING the world has survived up until now without this knowledge!

      How have plants and animals adapted to this worthless liquid?

      Does the Koala know something we don't know?

      Good thing we have Coca Cola, and "sports drinks" to save us now

      I expect the law of gravity to be repealed at any moment - if you want to keep your stuff from floating away...you best tie it down...
      I might be wrong, but doesn't a koala get most of its moisture from the leaves? And coke never advertised that it rehydrates. What is the point? Even BEER could, though alcohol can dehydrate.

      And HOW does this law, whichever way it goes, benefit the rich? OBVIOUSLY, SOME drink wants to advertise that it contains water, and thus rehydrates. Can you name ANY drink that DOESN'T contain like over 50% water? Comeon, just ONE. I can't name any. OK, MAYBE if you had 200 proof vodka, but does THAT even exist?

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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Well, you know, water should not be used as the sole way to rehydrate. That isn't a new idea. I believe it was the coach for the florida gators that came up with gatoraid as an answer to it.

    Of course it is fine over time, and maybe even in short bursts, but way too much, and it could kill. Don't forget that woman on that radio contest.

    Why is a drink company trying to use it as a selling point anyway? I hink about 100% of all drinks have a fair amount of water in them. So it is misleading on its face!

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  • Just being a bit waggish, mate - the point being that animals like the Koala and the Panda basically sleep all day and eat the rest of the time because they get no real sustenance from the food they eat...then we are worried that they are endangered? Kind of ironic they have survived this long if you ask me...Koalas eat nothing but eucalyptus leaves, and Pandas bamboo...no nutrition at all. You'd think they would have figured that out by now - :confused:

    It's like that old joke Sam Kinison used to say about people who live in the desert who are hungry and thirsty all the time...DUH - you live IN A FREAKIN' DESERT! Go to where the freakin' food and water is!

    Coke WANTS you buy their bottled water...they make more profit on that than anything else. Remember when you were a kid? - When you were thirsty, where did you get a drink?
    From the garden hose - no big thing -

    And you can die from drinking too much water...

    Years ago I jokingly proposed we make a beer and coffee with the RDA of vitamins and minerals and cut out the middleman...maybe I should look into that again...:rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post

      Just being a bit waggish, mate - the point being that animals like the Koala and the Panda basically sleep all day and eat the rest of the time because they get no real sustenance from the food they eat...then we are worried that they are endangered? Kind of ironic they have survived this long if you ask me...Koalas eat nothing but eucalyptus leaves, and Pandas bamboo...no nutrition at all. You'd think they would have figured that out by now - :confused:

      It's like that old joke Sam Kinison used to say about people who live in the desert who are hungry and thirsty all the time...DUH - you live IN A FREAKIN' DESERT! Go to where the freakin' food and water is!

      Coke WANTS you buy their bottled water...they make more profit on that than anything else. Remember when you were a kid? When you were thirsty, where did you get a drink?
      From the garden hose - no big thing -

      And you can die from drinking too much water...

      Years ago I jokingly proposed we make a beer and coffee with the RDA of vitamins and minerals and cut out the middleman...maybe I should look into that again...:rolleyes:
      Well, I don't think I ever drank from a garden hose,but such hoses today are made of plastics that are poisonous! As fo bear and coffee? Coffee is so hot that some vtamins wuld be lost. Beer has enough alcohol that it isn't practical.

      OH, and coke may sell water now. It may EVEN be the EXACT same water they put in coke. But that water will probably NEVER sell because it has the special property to hydrate. HECK, hydrate....hydr....ate! hydr=water, having to do wth water, etc.... ate=often means oxygenated, to give a quality to, or akin to "y". So it can mean watery, or that it has the ability to give you water. OK, WHO doesn't think/know tha taking water gives you water.

      I'm just trying to play devil's advocate here because WHY is some agency trying to use this in their ad? TECHNICALLY, in the US, that is ILLEGAL! NOT by the FDA(due to unsubsantiated medical claims), but by the FTC(for misleading implication)! The FDA COULD step in though because, in large quantities, it is dangerous!

      If you go to a hospital, and are dehydrated a LOT, they don't give you water, they give you saline! SURE MOST of it is water, but it has salt, and maybe other things as well, so the water doesn't deplete your electrolytes. BTW it is interesting Pepsi owns gatorade. I forgot about that.

      Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    MMM - bamboo is extremely nutritious. Don't know where you heard otherwise. It's not the same as eating regular wood.

    There are many animals whose bodies are adapted to turning their food into a water source - in the desert mice even get moisture from seeds. Stop and think of the amount they have to eat daily to do so though. Don't try to recreate the effect or you will be surprised at how fast you collapse.

    As far as water solving dehydration. It does, but you have to rehydrate correctly because an actual case of severe dehydration is scary dangerous.

    As far as water itself - with the crap that's in our drinking water in the US - it can kill you to drink it at all. REAL water without the crap dumped in it and filtered to get natural crap out of it is really good for you. It's just so hard to get anymore.

    Steve, the electrolyte imbalance is why it's so hard to rehydrate. I used pediolyte (sp?) to keep a puppy hydrated when he got parvo - saved him.
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  • Gee Sal, I saw a story on Pandas once that pointed it out that it was a reason they eat it for like 16 hours a day...they couldn't digest any value from it...
    I had never heard bamboo was highly nutritious (maybe shoots?) but it does make for a nice looking floor...
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I don't think I ever drank from a garden hose
      Wow - I thught every kid drank from the end of a hose at least once in his kidhood! You were deprived.
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Wow - I thught every kid drank from the end of a hose at least once in his kidhood! You were deprived.
        I didn't say I wasn't able to, I said I DIDN'T! I ALSO never shared food and drink directly from the same container. I tried to shower apart from everyone else. I don't have to worry about cold weather as much as others. I tend to not sit close to others, etc...

        In a lot of ways, I was and am different. Not deprived though.

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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post

      Gee Sal, I saw a story on Pandas once that pointed it out that it was a reason they eat it for like 16 hours a day...they couldn't digest any value from it...
      I had never heard bamboo was highly nutritious (maybe shoots?) but it does make for a nice looking floor...
      Shoots DO have more nutrition, etc... ALSO, they have MOISTURE! So pandas can get water from THAT. I think pandas and koala bears ALSO conserve energy.

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  • Profile picture of the author theebookcavern
    I saw this a few days ago on a fitness blog. The world truly has gone mad if scientists are being paid to make these kind of conclusions.

    What's next? Protein manufacturers cannot sell their supplements on the basis of protein's main function - "to build muscle".

    I understand that that the intention may be to prevent soft drink manufacturers from claiming that their drink is a good source of hydration but if you read some of the points in the actual article it gets even more ridiculous...

    "EU officials concluded that, following a three-year investigation, there was no evidence to prove the previously undisputed fact."
    So I'm guessing they didn't try testing the effects of withholding water for a few days and seeing if anyone became dehydrated?

    "Producers of bottled water are now forbidden by law from making the claim and will face a two-year jail sentence if they defy the edict, which comes into force in the UK next month.
    Even producers of bottled water. Cannot use the claim. If the drink is just water and no other added ingredients I cannot see any possible harm with this claim.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by theebookcavern View Post

      I saw this a few days ago on a fitness blog. The world truly has gone mad if scientists are being paid to make these kind of conclusions.

      What's next? Protein manufacturers cannot sell their supplements on the basis of protein's main function - "to build muscle".
      DIDN'T YOU HEAR!?!?!? Dr. Dean Edell, and others, have come out saying that protein is NOT needed to build muscle and that it and vitamins are not needed, PERIOD! Emphasis THEIRS.

      So I'm guessing they didn't try testing the effects of withholding water for a few days and seeing if anyone became dehydrated?
      Ironically, it wouldn't have proved much. Water is needed for a lot of reaction, etc... Maybe vitamin C prevents dehydration, but it can't work without water.

      Even producers of bottled water. Cannot use the claim. If the drink is just water and no other added ingredients I cannot see any possible harm with this claim.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Panda and Koala metabolism isn't the same as ours. It's that simple. We couldn't live on their diet any more than they could live on ours. That's why we are different animals.

    This kind of thing is what you see when corporations are allowed to run the world. They can crank their research around to say anything they want to -- and the sad part is that what they pay for is what doctors see. Look at all the people that die of diseases caused by Vitamin D deficiency because of their cranked research on sunscreen. They were able to pay to get false research results from doctors and it took 1.5 million deaths a year to get any REAL research out to dispute the crap that the corporations put out -- same with pharmaceuticals. What they are doing with vaccines is just criminal. And take a look at what it is doing to scientific weather research to have political editing. Warming happens in every interglacial period, that's what an interglacial period is -- they've cranked it around until they have made it something they can tax people for.

    Scientists are now going up against govs for the right to produce scientific research and results that will not be edited by politicians - will they win? Probably not. There's too many people making too much money feeding us complete crap so we will spend money. Health is not an issue - ecology is not an issue - - nothing but money is a stinking issue to these cannibals.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Panda and Koala metabolism isn't the same as ours. It's that simple. We couldn't live on their diet any more than they could live on ours. That's why we are different animals.
      I can't STAND eucalyptus, and think it is poisonous to us. And bamboo? NO THANKS!

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  • I hear bamboo makes for a pretty good bong though...:rolleyes:
    (course' - that's just what I heard...)

    That might be why those Pandas are such a bunch of layabouts :rolleyes: ....they're using that bamboo for all sorts of things... :p
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Steve - eucalyptus is used in things like cough drops, but I'd never ingest the crap. It's great for keeping bugs out of a house and making it smell fresh though. Also good to inhale if you have some congestion.

    I like bamboo if you put some stuff with it. If you eat it alone it just tastes like water chestnuts to me. Pretty bland. But if people need food, it is nutritious and grows fast so it can avert emergencies.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Steve - eucalyptus is used in things like cough drops, but I'd never ingest the crap. It's great for keeping bugs out of a house and making it smell fresh though. Also good to inhale if you have some congestion.

      I like bamboo if you put some stuff with it. If you eat it alone it just tastes like water chestnuts to me. Pretty bland. But if people need food, it is nutritious and grows fast so it can avert emergencies.
      You're right about that, but STILL, IN MODERATION! And yeah, I forgot about some soap and stir fry. In both cases I was talking about large quantities. Though I really DO hate eucalyptus leaves.

      Steve
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    This is why we have idiots like Perry that "don't believe in science".
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  • Profile picture of the author David McKee
    Originally Posted by Sunfyre7896 View Post

    According to the EU and their version of the FDA, water does NOT prevent dehydration. LoL Where do they get these "scientists?"

    www telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8897662/EU-bans-claim-that-water-can-prevent-dehydration.html
    This demonstrates without a doubt the insignificance, the stupidity, and the utter fact that government turns everything it touches into sh*t. Government attracts some of the stupidest, laziest, most incompetent people.

    If ever the wisdom of the book "Atlas Shrugged" was ever on display, here it is.

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