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End of Censorship? Peer to Peer DNS

by thunderbird
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People who don't want corporate or government meddling into their lives may also be wary of the vulnerability of Internet to censorship. Some also are wary ICANN and its power over the internet and it's money funneling practices. Technology may offer avenues that aren't vulnerable to such censorship. I never imagined I'd link to a rag like TIME, but here goes:

How the Internet Evolves to Overcome Censorship | Techland | TIME.com
#internet censorship #peer2peer #sopa
  • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
    On one hand I don't think tampering with DNS is enough to totally censor the internet. DNS just translates pretty readable names to IP addresses.

    And I also think that if a decentralized DNS is put in place to thwart censorship efforts by government, well then government will look to other ways to silence those they wish to.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by mojojuju View Post

      And I also think that if a decentralized DNS is put in place to thwart censorship efforts by government, well then government will look to other ways to silence those they wish to.
      They always have had ways to shut people up......but if they start disappearing the masses of people that they want to silence now, it's not going to go unnoticed.
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by mojojuju View Post

        And I also think that if a decentralized DNS is put in place to thwart censorship efforts by government, well then government will look to other ways to silence those they wish to.
        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        They always have had ways to shut people up......but if they start disappearing the masses of people that they want to silence now, it's not going to go unnoticed.
        Actually, there IS one little piece of the internet that is GARBAGE! I've thought for YEARS about how to remove all the problems. I was looking for a project and this might just be it. It might be the only piece that *****NEEDS***** to change, if you want peer to peer networking. The ONLY problem is that **MY** vision DOES require a central repository. Of course, people can decide to take chances, if the repository is down, and STILL have something better than NOW. I didn't do it earlier, because it won't work unless MANY know about it and are willing to use it.

        But if they want to stop people from creating communication methods to replace the internet, it is EASY! Just go back in time a few hundred years, and kill all the people developing radio, telegraphs/telephones, electronics, computers, etc.... SIMPLE!

        Well, I CAN think of several problems there of which perhaps the least is that time machines don't exist.

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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        They always have had ways to shut people up......but if they start disappearing the masses of people that they want to silence now, it's not going to go unnoticed.
        You mean like this group?

        Dead Scientists
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    DNS HAS to be centralized! It is like the phone service. Do you think that you can simply switch phone companies? *****HA*****! The switches, lines, etc... HAVE to be the same, and you end up going through THEM. You may pay another company, etc... but.... It is like a cell phone, where a given cell takes control of your call for a time.

    Peer to peer sounds nice, but HOW do you locate them? And what if they go down? WHAT if they CONFLICT? And you CAN'T use NON rutable IPs because, if you do, you break ALL sorts of things, and have TONS of conflicts! So WHO now registers the ROUTABLE IP addresses? The silly little secret is that DNS was NEVER a PURE monopoly. If you get the industry to accept you, they can update their lists for new TLDs. At least one company DID manage to do THAT! BUT they ALL have to change it! EVEN with SSL, you can have the browser companies accept you as a C/A. Again, some companies HAVE done THAT.

    But it really isn't as easy as it sounds. ALSO, you would have to use tunnel protocols, and get visitors to tweak their systems to use existing networks/software and STILL have control. You COULD have master nodes, and simply link THEM through the existing system, so each country could see local sites if the main system goes down, and maybe have an intermediate node act as a bridge if it does.

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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
    lol seasoned, your posts are always so INTENSE!!!

    but they always kinda make sense, so its all good
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    • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
      Originally Posted by Whos That Guru View Post

      lol seasoned, your posts are always so INTENSE!!!
      I can always tell if a post is by seasoned just by noticing his liberal use of CAPS. He sure does know how to express himself in text.
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    • Profile picture of the author iidesu
      Originally Posted by Whos That Guru View Post

      lol seasoned, your posts are always so INTENSE!!!

      but they always kinda make sense, so its all good
      intense? I don't quite think so. Anything from TIME should be reviewed, closely.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Yeah, I'm trying to add some reason to it. I'm sure many feel they can use routers and WIFI, etc... Through promiscuity, and SSIDs, and proxie software to handle it all, you COULD, but it is a lot of trouble. And trying to do that over the internet is even more problematic. There IS a reason why people haven't done it before.

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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    BTW if the rich people DID kill all the people developing radio, telegraphs/telephones, electronics, computers, etc...., they would probably get back here realizing that NOBODY was that rch, and they were POOR. MAYBE, they wouldn't even exist! When you think of how much such things changed the planet, YIKES! And a LOT can happen in a few hundred years. The LANGUAGE would probably even be different. There would be more accents. Less of the planet would understand english. The military would be smaller and more reluctant to go to war. The stores wouldn't be as big or stocked as well. Societies would be more homogeneous.

    Steve
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