What's More Valuable Than Gold?

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Answer: Copper.

Electric cars and the bogus hybrid cars use lots of copper, much of which comes from environment-destroying copper mines. Invest in copper. It'll make you more money than gold.
  • Profile picture of the author FizzaKevil
    Well, Diamonds !!!
    And I just love to observe different kind of stones.
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  • Profile picture of the author LarryC
    I just saw a news story that some people are stockpiling pennies as an investment because of their copper content. It's only pennies earlier than a certain year -I think it's 1982. And they're hoping it will one day be legal to melt down the pennies for their copper value, which is a lot more than the face value. As of now, it's illegal -though I'm sure there are black market opportunities if you know where to look.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Gomez
    more valuable than gold.......

    frankincense and myrrh
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  • First, we should analyze why gold is so valuable in the first place - it has been coveted for eons merely because it is pretty and malleable.Up until recently, it's conductive values did not even come into play...
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  • Profile picture of the author Rick B
    I always get a kick out of it when people tell me that they buy gold in case the entire world economy crashes. If you're worried about that it seems more likely to me that food will be what's really valuable. If you're starving a can of tuna is worth more than its weight in gold.
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    • Profile picture of the author frankhill
      Originally Posted by Rick B View Post

      I always get a kick out of it when people tell me that they buy gold in case the entire world economy crashes. If you're worried about that it seems more likely to me that food will be what's really valuable. If you're starving a can of tuna is worth more than its weight in gold.
      I couldn't agree more, Rick. You might also need someing to defend yourself and family, and ward of someone who wants to take that tuna from you.

      Frank
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      Originally Posted by Rick B View Post

      I always get a kick out of it when people tell me that they buy gold in case the entire world economy crashes. If you're worried about that it seems more likely to me that food will be what's really valuable. If you're starving a can of tuna is worth more than its weight in gold.
      It depends on our definitions...If it's just the economy that crashes, IMO then gold will be valuable.

      However, if society crashes, then gold will be almost useless. It's too heavy to carry and has few constructive uses. Plus, it's too hard for the average person to tell if it's real or fake.

      I'll take copper. Copper and some magnets and rotary motion will create electricity.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Diamonds aren't the big one as far as gemstones go. Alexandrite and quality red beryl command a heftier price than diamonds.

    Copper is becoming scarce. Within a decade it is expected that the only source of copper will be recycling. Yet there are many modern conveniences that would not exist without it. So in about a decade we are screwed unless we can recycle every bit of it ever used. It would take almost a 2/3 population decrease (rapid one) to be able to stretch global copper supply to cover everyone's needs past the end of next decade at the latest. So, yeah -- it's beyond valuable now. It's worth actually stockpiling any that you find anywhere. I pick up any little piece of it I run across. When paper money crashes, metal and rare earth minerals will continue to have trade value.
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  • Profile picture of the author Russel Mogul
    Silver - don't even debate it. Just go buy a crap load of it and thank me in 10 years, ok ?
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    True love.
    I agree with you there
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  • That would depend...is it Dolphin Free Tuna? :rolleyes:

    (and packed in oil - or water?...cause' I prefer it in water)

    (and how are you fixed for mayonnaise?)
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  • Profile picture of the author thesuccesscoach
    plain and simple happiness

    all the gold in the world may bring false happiness however you can´t buy happiness,
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    • Profile picture of the author Dave Patterson
      Originally Posted by thesuccesscoach View Post

      plain and simple happiness

      all the gold in the world may bring false happiness however you can´t buy happiness,

      Money can't buy you happiness, but it can buy you a yacht big enough to pull up right alongside it.

      -David Lee Roth
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        • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
          Originally Posted by drcag View Post

          I think internet
          Facebook worths 5 billion dolar and it is lighter than 1 gram
          All of the hardware they use to run the site would not be lighter than 1 gram, lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mikorist
    Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

    What's More Valuable Than Gold?

    Freedom of speech.
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    • Profile picture of the author LarryC
      Originally Posted by Mikorist View Post

      Freedom of speech.

      If you have enough gold, you generally have freedom of speech, wherever you live.
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  • Profile picture of the author Russel Mogul
    Water, enough said
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by Russel Mogul View Post

      Water, enough said
      Anyone investing in real estate should keep that principle on the forefront of considerations.
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    • Originally Posted by Russel Mogul View Post

      Silver - don't even debate it. Just go buy a crap load of it and thank me in 10 years, ok ?
      Originally Posted by Russel Mogul View Post

      Water, enough said
      So...which is it Russ? You seem to be flip-flopping on this...

      Initially, when I heard GW Bush bought a massive tract of land in Paraguay, I honestly thought it was because Paraguay does not have an extradition treaty with the United States...(for reasons we won't discuss) then I read that the land is sitting on one of the largest aquifers in the world...

      You crafty devil Dubya...sometimes he can be smarter than I gave him credit for...dumb like a fox - :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author Russel Mogul
        Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post

        So...which is it Russ? You seem to be flip-flopping on this...

        Initially, when I heard GW Bush bought a massive tract of land in Paraguay, I honestly thought it was because Paraguay does not have an extradition treaty with the United States...(for reasons we won't discuss) then I read that the land is sitting on one of the largest aquifers in the world...

        You crafty devil Dubya...sometimes he can be smarter than I gave him credit for...dumb like a fox - :rolleyes:
        LOL, my initial answer was based on the responses like " copper" etc but low and behold some Warriors chipped in with happiness and other intangible things.

        I stick by my guns though, Water is more important than gold.

        I would like to know the impact water would have on any real estate investment considerations....
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  • Well Russ,
    There might still be untapped aquifers around - but finding them is akin to searching for oil reserves these days, because the return on producing bottled water is better than oil. To get oil from shale and tar sands in Canada will also take massive amounts of water...it may have to be piped in from a distance...

    I think people would also be surprised to know how much fresh water the US sells to other countries, like China...

    We still have the oceans, and advancements are being made in desalination techniques, but if global warming keeps going as predicted...we may be "swimming" in water! - potable or not.
    As far as real estate goes, the next hot beach front for sale may be 5 miles inland -
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    • Profile picture of the author Russel Mogul
      Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post

      Well Russ,
      There might still be untapped aquifers around - but finding them is akin to searching for oil reserves these days, because the return on producing bottled water is better than oil. To get oil from shale and tar sands in Canada will also take massive amounts of water...it may have to be piped in from a distance...

      I think people would also be surprised to know how much fresh water the US sells to other countries, like China...

      We still have the oceans, and advancements are being made in desalination techniques, but if global warming keeps going as predicted...we may be "swimming" in water! - potable or not.
      As far as real estate goes, the next hot beach front for sale may be 5 miles inland -
      LOL that probably won't be for a while. I'm a science major (chemical eng) and I still don't believe in global warming. Each to their own I guess
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    • Profile picture of the author PhaedraDragon
      More valuable than gold? Food, Drink, a place to live, clothes to wear; and FREEDOM!
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    Health and water.
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    Major crime wave of copper theft. Organized crime is getting in on it:
    Copper Thieves Rip Metal From Train Tracks, Traffic Lights - ABC News

    Copper alternatives? Not yet. Here's an article on some:
    http://www.pwbrc.org/bmr/ecalt.htm
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  • Profile picture of the author SJ048998
    To be honest, I'd not got for diamonds after all or any other overpriced entity, which might turn to be useless one day, perhaps not tomorrow, not in next 50 years, but one day and if there's something to be left behind, some wealth, which is supposed to be inherited one day, I'd go for shares of companies such as Microsoft or invest money into companies, which develop new stuff, because there are incredible money coming from these intellectual property patents.
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by SJ048998 View Post

      <snip>incredible money coming from these intellectual property patents.

      I wouldn't bank on that myself with big-time bootlegging going on (possibly state-subsidized?). You can't bootleg the raw materials used to build things.
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  • Valuable commodities will always be governed by supply and demand...

    Just a few hundred years ago, salt was as valuable as gold...people were paid with salt (hence the word salary) People would literally KILL for a Cup of Coffee...
    but as techniques improve to obtain and cultivate these items - they become more obtainable.
    (though oz. for oz. - coffee is still pretty damned expensive )
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  • Profile picture of the author LeeLee
    I am loving this thread. More interesting posts than I have thanks for.

    I am mad about the news broadcasting the penny thing. I just got into the pennies a short time ago. Of course, I only have time to do it as a hobby.

    I have been getting a few dollars in rolls every few weeks. I know that is not much. But I have also noticed a decline already in the older pennies in the rolls. Which means they are being hoarded somewhere.

    And to think just a few years ago people were throwing pennies on the ground.
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  • Profile picture of the author chrislangley
    I suppose there are always raw materials when used wisely can get you more than the norm
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  • As you can see...I used the term "as predicted" as my "caveat cya" - :rolleyes:
    - ...better for political ambiguity and all...
    I didn't actually say it was/wasn't going to happen...just that it was "predicted"...
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  • Profile picture of the author grifone
    more valuable than a piece of gold is god(without l ) because everything can happened suddenly
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