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SOPA & PIPA Would Fragment The Internet

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Mozilla pleads: 'Protect the Internet' from Stop Online Piracy Act
  • I've been yelling about this until I'm...well, you know...? :rolleyes:

    There is another link on this...you're welcome to pirate any link updates if you think it will help get more visibility...
    http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...-internet.html

    Otherwise...it's beginning to remind me of the Joni Mitchell lyric...
    "Don't it always seem to go...that you don't know what you've got til' it's gone..." -

    Here's a Whitehouse Petition: Tell Obama to tell SOPA 'Yo' Mama'...
    https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petition...ation/g3W1BscR



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    (Course' ya know, now...when "they" come to get us...I just have to make sure I run faster than YOU - )
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  • Spend 4 minutes...Watch This Video if you don't know HOW This BILL Will Work -

    PROTECT IP / SOPA Act Breaks the Internet
    PROTECT IP Act Breaks the Internet

    Petition included for you to participate...

    Congress needs to hear from you, or this bill passes the first step
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Do petition - and do know that petitions don't get the attention they used to.

    If you want your leaders to take you seriously -- start recall or impeachment petitions for reps in your area who are supporting this - or any other bill that violates our rights. It may take getting rid of them for the next in line to understand the seriousness of transgressing on your rights.
    Signature

    Sal
    When the Roads and Paths end, learn to guide yourself through the wilderness
    Beyond the Path

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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Do petition - and do know that petitions don't get the attention they used to.

      If you want your leaders to take you seriously -- start recall or impeachment petitions for reps in your area who are supporting this - or any other bill that violates our rights. It may take getting rid of them for the next in line to understand the seriousness of transgressing on your rights.
      Have you seen the LATEST! One politician ran a campaign, and the state is apparently LYING! THEIR claim is that they didn't have the signatures! It has hurt his campaign.

      Supposedly, the TRUTH is that the signatures were not collected by residents of the state and were thus IGNORED! And luckily one of the signers, hearing this, is now suing the state for effectively not allowing him to vote.

      One wonders how much longer it will be before they tell us all to just go to hell.

      BTW this is not meant to be political, or start any such war. Regardless of where you think you might be, this affects us ALL! HECK, if it can happen in the US, after happening in so many other places, it could happen ANYWHERE else!

      Steve
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  • Stanford Law Review:
    Don't Break the Internet


    Don't Break the Internet - Stanford Law Review
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  • Profile picture of the author Sunfyre7896
    Everyone had better hope that both SOPA and the NDAA don't get signed in. These are a shining example of why protests SHOULD happen, whether they get violent or not is another thing, but obviously just standing around like Occupy isn't changing ANYTHING. Sad day for America if these 2 pass, seriously.
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  • Profile picture of the author mr2monster
    Here's a list of all the companies backing SOPA... should you want to contact them with your disapproval.

    All the Companies Supporting SOPA, the Awful Internet Censorship Law—and How to Contact Them
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  • Profile picture of the author kokopelli
    Can't the President just VETO the bill(s)? If that is in fact his position ...
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by kokopelli View Post

      Can't the President just VETO the bill(s)? If that is in fact his position ...
      That requires backbone, no? Ain't no backbone in those parts.
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      Project HERE.

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      • 11 Days and Counting...

        Major Opposition to SOPA PIPA
        Major internet corporations are opposed to SOPA PIPA legislation set to pass in a 11 days, on Jan. 24, 2011. The major companies are: Google, Facebook, Twitter, Mozilla Firefox, Yahoo, AOL, Zynga Game Network, Linkedin Corp, and Ebay. The letter they wrote to the politicians who designed the two bills is below.

        Major Opposition to SOPA PIPA includes WordPress, who urged its 60 million users world wide to fight the bill and declare their opposition to censoring the internet, as well as Reddit and other major internet establishments.

        The Letter was addressed to the major sponsors and co-authors of SOPA and PIPA who are:
        Patrick Leahy
        Chuck Grassley
        Lamar Smith
        John Conyers

        Major Opposition to SOPA PIPA A Letter to Congress:

        ” The undersigned Internet and technology companies write to express our concerns with legislative measures that have been introduced in the United States Senate and the United States House of Representatives, S. 968 (The Protect IP Act”) and H.R. 3261 (the “Stop Online Piracy Act”).

        “We support the bills’ stated goals– providing additional enforcement tools to combat foreign “rogue” websites that are dedicated to copyright infringement or counterfeiting”.

        “Unfortunately, the bills as drafted would expose law-abiding U.S. internet and technology companies to new uncertain liabilities, private rights of action, and technology mandates that would require monitoring of websites.

        We are concerned that these measures pose a serious risk to our industry’s continued track record of innovation and job-creation, as well as to our Nation’s cybersecurity. We cannot support these bills as written and ask that you consider more targeted ways to combat foreign rogue websites dedicated to copyright infringement and trademark counterfeiting, while preserving the innovation and dynamism that has made the internet such an important driver of economic growth and job creation”.


        The letter continues to point out the bills would seriously “undermine” the DMCA which is the Digital Millenium Copyright Act of 1998 which protects the internet companies who act in good faith to remove infringements to copyright already.

        A comment from Eric Schmidt, Chairman of Google ” the solutions are draconian” “there’s a bill that would require internet service providers to remove URL’s from the Web, which is also known as censorship last time I checked”. Major Opposition to SOPA PIPA is growing by the day as the reading of the bill draws near more opposition grows from the public.

        The Job of Policing Hollywood Belongs to Hollywood not the Whole World Wide Web

        The main problem with these two bills is that it punishes the whole industry with the task of policing the internet, which will be duplicated at many stages.

        Those who are promoting the bills in Hollywood

        The different factions of internet access from a search engine, a hosting company, a website all will be policing the web which duplicates the efforts and wastes man hours of employee time. This duplication of efforts is in itself a redundant, waste and in the midst of a long stagnant economy of 10 years will be a huge hit on the economy. In terms of the work required to monitor millions of websites, it makes the bill a catastrophic loss of income both private and government taxpayers funds.

        The bills would be censorship in its truest form, censorship of media, censorship of information, and censorship of a freedom as basic as human rights. The measures would also hoard the internet for larger corporation media and drown out the smaller independent businesses and will present a lopsided society.

        The Damage to the US Economy

        The notice to lawmakers points out the pitfalls in their bill, plus the damage the bill would do to the economy, to jobs, to small business es and to freedom of the press. If you look at this bill carefully, it will hardly stop piracy, but places an enormous economic burden on an already damaged economy.

        To add SOPA FIPA to the only area where the US excels would be a disaster that politicians who do not understand the internet cannot comprehend.

        The bill was badly written, giving government authority to order internet providers, search engines to shut down sites on one complaint, leaving room for abuse, monopolies by larger corporations and the task of policing the internet to every business involved.

        The bills will not stop piracy experts say, which is caused by offshore agents, that will find new methods to bypass the overbearing restrictive bills.

        The main players here are Hollywood movie firms, the music industry and video outlets that claim their property is being stolen by offshore pirates and this is the only way to stop them which is not true.

        The Hollywood money in Congress given to the politicians who are putting forward this bill is a system of corruption itself, a system that is long overdue for reform. The internet represents millions of small businesses which will be put out of business, jobs will be lost and the economy will take a big hit again.

        In addition, the bills would have US technology and jobs to move offshore to prevent the type of misplaced control of the internet.

        Again, Congress displays its lack of intelligence and knowledge of how important the internet is to the future of America’s technological advances.

        The recent declaration by Congress that pizza is a vegetable is proof enough.



        Read more: Major Opposition to SOPA PIPA - Politicol News
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Can gizmodo PLEASE hire an English speaker to edit their lists, etc?

    There is a statement saying:

    Note: the following firms have written in to say they were confusedly or erroneously included among SOPA supporters, and we've removed them from the list below:

    Morrison & Foerster LLP
    Davis Wright Tremaine
    Translation? The following list is a list of people that were on the list but do NOT Support SOPA. The following list includes only people that support sopa.

    So WHAT does that mean? DO they? Do they NOT? Was the list cleaned of those that don't, and the other list left off? I tried manually comparing and only 3 names on the first list don't appear to be on the second. I'm planning on comparing non manually.

    GOD GUYS, if you are going to facilitate a boycott, DO IT RIGHT!!!!!!!! However ANY company listed on the original bill should be BOYCOTTED! *****PERIOD*****! If they DON'T want to be, it is EASY! Just publically announce it on the news, and DEMAND that congress remove their name! That SHOULD cause it to start from scratch again since it should count as a change, and change arguments. THEN, when people see the name removed from the bill, they can start buying again.

    Boycotts SHOULD be to punish, but the end goal should always be CHANGE in the behaviour! DON'T believe the propaganda. The ONLY fact is that THEIR name and details are used to support the bill. That continues as long as they are LISTED as supporters of the bill! Of course, if they publically support it... ABC, disney, Pixar, touchstone, etc... are linked. If one is guilty, ALL ARE!

    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post

      If he is right, he must be WRONG!!!!!!!!!

      HE claims:

      There is nothing that would require Internet service providers or bloggers to "censor" the Internet.

      is TRUE!

      He FURTHER claims that:

      Since there is no basis for their complaints, one wonders what the bill's critics are really worried about. Perhaps they don't want to be held accountable for directing consumers to illegal websites. We know that's the case with Google.

      is TRUE!

      The second point must be correct to support the first point and STILL allow for detractors! ONE problem with that logic! Read that second part again... It says, in part: " they don't want to be(in other words they WILL be) held accountable for directing consumers to illegal websites."

      Ok, let's read that first part again:

      :There is nothing that would require Internet service providers or bloggers to "censor" the Internet." In other words, they WON'T be held accountable for directing consumers to illegal websites.

      OK Lamar, which is it? It MUST be both to support your argument, but they are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE! If A is right, B is wrong, and you have to come up with another excuse! If A is wrong, and B is right, your whole argument falls apart, and legally you must abandon support for the bill! SERIOUSLY, ALL members of the us government must take an OATH(They merely interpret "take an oath" to mean "mouthing sounds off a script") to "Defend the constitution against ALL enemies FOREIGN and DOMESTIC." CLEARLY, this is one such enemy.

      Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author Sunfyre7896
    Where does he live?
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  • Stay On Top of the Fight Against SOPA/PIPA with These Tools

    Stay On Top of the Fight Against SOPA/PIPA with These Tools
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  • "What do 1-800-Contacts, Adidas, Americans for Tax Reform, Comcast, the Country Music Association, Estee Lauder, Ford, Nike and Xerox all have in common? According to OpenCongress.org, they all have specifically endorsed H.R. 3261, the Stop Online Piracy Act. A total of 158 corporations have signed up in favor of the bill, and only 87 against. $21 Million has been donated to Congressmen who favor the bill, but only $5 Million to those against. Thanks to OpenCongress for these insights. This goes a long way towards explaining why this bill has so much traction, despite all its negative publicity."

    Who got what: (Who's on 1st...I don't know is on 3rd)
    H.R.3261: Stop Online Piracy Act - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress


    (I find it ironic two of the .orgs supporting SOPA are called "Let Freedom Ring", and "Center for Individual Freedom" :rolleyes: )

    Also:International Association of Fire Fighters ????

    SOPA Makes Strange Bedfellows - Slashdot
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  • H.R. 1981: SOPA Author Lamar Smith's New Internet Surveillance Bill Intensifies Threats to Online Privacy

    While people have been celebrating the victory over SOPA and PIPA, here's what has managed to slip by relatively unobserved, until now...

    H.R. 1981: SOPA Author Lamar Smith's New Internet Surveillance Bill Intensifies Threats to Online Privacy
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