New Photo Captures Eerie Circle Of UFOs Over Minnesota Lake

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Here is another interesting UFO photograph, courtesy of the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON).

The photograph was taken July 7. 2011 near an unnamed Minnesota lake by an individual. I have enlarged and cleaned the photo to give you a clearer view of this anomaly. I am not sure what it is, but it does resemble some classic UFO sightings.

Any Warrior UFO buffs have an opinion?

Link to photo: New Photo Captures Eerie Circle Of UFOs Over Minnesota Lake - UFO News & Analysis - UFO Files Released
  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    I think it's a fake. The circle isn't symmetrical, the lights aren't spaced evenly, and it seems like you see the background clouds where it should be solid..
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    • Profile picture of the author lastreporter
      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      I think it's a fake. The circle isn't symmetrical, the lights aren't spaced evenly, and it seems like you see the background clouds where it should be solid..
      Part of me agrees; part of me disagrees. The photo looks legitimate, but it could have been created by using a previous UFO shot and superimposed it.

      Today, with Photo Shop, anything is possible.

      However, having said that, the composition of the photo rings true to my eyes and the report he wrote did also. But this is based only on a gut feeling.

      Like I said, it is really hard to tell.

      Thanks for your input.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by lastreporter View Post

        Part of me agrees; part of me disagrees. The photo looks legitimate, but it could have been created by using a previous UFO shot and superimposed it.

        Today, with Photo Shop, anything is possible.

        However, having said that, the composition of the photo rings true to my eyes and the report he wrote did also. But this is based only on a gut feeling.

        Like I said, it is really hard to tell.

        Thanks for your input.
        By the way, my wife and I saw something more convincing than that coming home from dining out on Veteran's Day. Neither one of thinks it was a UFO though. As Carl Sagan used to say, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          As Carl Sagan used to say, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
          Ergo ... extraterrestrial claims require extraterrestrial evidence.
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        • Profile picture of the author lastreporter
          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          By the way, my wife and I saw something more convincing than that coming home from dining out on Veteran's Day. Neither one of thinks it was a UFO though. As Carl Sagan used to say, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
          Good point. I can't dispute your conclusion. But, I agree, there are some things that are just unknown.
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    Dust particles caught by the flash...


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    • Profile picture of the author lastreporter
      Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

      Dust particles caught by the flash...


      Heh,heh,heh...

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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        An interesting recent book on the subject is "UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on the Record" (August 2011) by investigative journalist and UFO skeptic Leslie Kean.

        Although over 95% of UFO "sightings" are identified as either misinterpreted visuals, natural phenomena, or elaborately fabricated hoaxes, there is definitely an element of the unexplained - Unidentified Flying Objects.
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        • Profile picture of the author lastreporter
          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          An interesting recent book on the subject is "UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on the Record" (August 2011) by investigative journalist and UFO skeptic Leslie Kean.

          Although over 95% of UFO "sightings" are identified as either misinterpreted visuals, natural phenomena, or elaborately fabricated hoaxes, there is definitely an element of the unexplained - Unidentified Flying Objects.
          I read the book. It was a convincing and sobering read. I agree, only a small percentage are real, but the real ones in the book sighted by the most credible witnesses where strong.
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    Let's ask the Ancient Astronauts guy:

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  • Profile picture of the author KingOfMusic
    Cool thread, especially just after seeing Close Encounters With The Third Kind yesterday. :p

    Aliens are surely real. A man got killed for leaking info when working in New Mexico:


    UFOs I'm pretty sure they exist too. Unsolved Mysteries has a lot of intriguing episodes. Really nice, here's one which I like:


    The famous Roswell incident.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    It's not ever going to be easy to know if a pic is real or not. Maybe a photo expert can tell, but just by looking at a picture, you can't always tell. I've seen some very weird stuff in the sky. But the most weird was so close to a military base that I'm pretty sure someone was able to identify it.

    My mind is open - but I've not any expertise to offer to debate it either way.
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  • Profile picture of the author PerfectSolution
    maybe all of this ufo stuff is part of the military experiment. and they knew it all along..
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    • Profile picture of the author lastreporter
      Originally Posted by PerfectSolution View Post

      maybe all of this ufo stuff is part of the military experiment. and they knew it all along..
      I think in part you are correct. I think many of the UFOs are in fact experimental aircraft prototype drones being developed by the United States. However, I still think some are unexplained.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by PerfectSolution View Post

      maybe all of this ufo stuff is part of the military experiment. and they knew it all along..
      Bingo! We have a winner! A provocative book reflective of origins in the Cold War espionage motive is discussed rather assertively in "Area 51: An Uncensored History of America's Top Secret Military Base" authored by Annie Jacobsen. It was just published last May, currently available on Amazon.

      The coverup of activities there apparently was the most successful hoax in history and is still self-perpetuating and powerfully effective even today for the continuing research in advanced aircraft technology.

      In some perspectives the UFO hoax is perhaps the best design in Cold War intrigue, espionage, disinformation, and propaganda which has effectively obscured the most impressive feats of aeronautical engineering that have ever been accomplished in history. It worked far beyond all imagination of its propagators, because even now no one really "knows" ... for sure - do they?

      UFOs are simply Unidentified Flying Objects. The almost universal tendency for people to immediately conclude unidentified objects have extraterrestrial origins is a perfect cover for military aeronautics, practical jokers, hucksters, and marketers in this niche.
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      • Profile picture of the author lastreporter
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        Bingo! We have a winner! A provocative book reflective of origins in the Cold War espionage motive is discussed rather assertively in "Area 51: An Uncensored History of America's Top Secret Military Base" authored by Annie Jacobsen. It was just published last May, currently available on Amazon.

        The coverup of activities there apparently was the most successful hoax in history and is still self-perpetuating and powerfully effective even today for the continuing research in advanced aircraft technology.

        In some perspectives the UFO hoax is perhaps the best design in Cold War intrigue, espionage, disinformation, and propaganda which has effectively obscured the most impressive feats of aeronautical engineering that have ever been accomplished in history. It worked far beyond all imagination of its propagators, because even now no one really "knows" ... for sure - do they?

        UFOs are simply Unidentified Flying Objects. The almost universal tendency for people to immediately conclude unidentified objects have extraterrestrial origins is a perfect cover for military aeronautics, practical jokers, hucksters, and marketers in this niche.
        I read the book and found it filled with the same speculation that Ufologists harbor, but on the opposite side.

        Her assertion that Roswell crash was really Russian midgets trying to scare the United States really lost me.

        I think about 97 percent of all UFOs can be explained by natural phenomena and military secret experiments. But about three percent simply cannot.

        They are not hoaxes in my opinion.
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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          Originally Posted by lastreporter View Post

          I read the book and found it filled with the same speculation that Ufologists harbor, but on the opposite side.

          Her assertion that Roswell crash was really Russian midgets trying to scare the United States really lost me.

          I think about 97 percent of all UFOs can be explained by natural phenomena and military secret experiments. But about three percent simply cannot.

          They are not hoaxes in my opinion.
          Since 97% of UFO "sightings" can be attributed to non-extraterrestial origins, why has the remaining 3% suddenly become extraterrestial simply because it can't be explained? There are quite practical earthly purposes for such folklore, originating in Cold War propaganda. For an insight into how the military-industrial complex has used this widely successful technique for shrouding advanced aeronautical research, you might be interested in reading:

          Delusion: Aliens, Cults, Propaganda and the Manipulation of the Mind by Philip Gardiner
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          • Profile picture of the author lastreporter
            Originally Posted by myob View Post

            Since 97% of UFO "sightings" can be attributed to non-extraterrestial origins, why has the remaining 3% suddenly become extraterrestial simply because it can't be explained? There are quite practical earthly purposes for such folklore, originating in Cold War propaganda. For an insight into how the military-industrial complex has used this widely successful technique for shrouding advanced aeronautical research, you might be interested in reading:

            Delusion: Aliens, Cults, Propaganda and the Manipulation of the Mind by Philip Gardiner
            I never said the 3 percent were extraterrestrial, but is it s possibility that some of them are. At least that's what many scientists and declassified CIA, FBI. NSA and Air Force documents show. Real the FBI Vault, although it will take you several months or more.

            Perhaps one day the general public will know for sure. But, I unlike you, am not ready to close the door on the extraterrestrial possibility.
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            • Profile picture of the author myob
              Originally Posted by lastreporter View Post

              I never said the 3 percent were extraterrestrial, but is it s possibility that some of them are. At least that's what many scientists and declassified CIA, FBI. NSA and Air Force documents show. Real the FBI Vault, although it will take you several months or more.

              Perhaps one day the general public will know for sure. But, I unlike you, am not ready to close the door on the extraterrestrial possibility.
              And I never said the door is closed on the extraterrestrial possibility, only that there has never been any verifiable evidence for extraterrestrials operating UFOs, making such a probability statistically negligible. Anyone can tell stories, and they do. Anecdotes are not evidence, although "UFOlogists" do like to add pseudoscientific sources to a story to support their preconceived conclusions.

              An excellent book discussing using the scientific method in this arena is "Scientific Ufology: How the Application of Scientific Methodology Can Analyze, Illuminate and Prove the Reality of UFOs", by Kevin D Randle (1999). The author's posit is that government-sponsored projects have a history of bias, creating a need for neutral studies.

              Here is one of my favorite compelling excerpts: "There is no evidence that conclusively proves that UFOs represent alien visitation. There is, however, a great deal of evidence that is suggestive of that conclusion."
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              • Profile picture of the author lastreporter
                Originally Posted by myob View Post

                And I never said the door is closed on the extraterrestrial possibility, only that there has never been any verifiable evidence for extraterrestrials operating UFOs, making such a probability statistically negligible. Anyone can tell stories, and they do. Anecdotes are not evidence, although "UFOlogists" do like to add pseudoscientific sources to a story to support their preconceived conclusions.

                An excellent book discussing using the scientific method in this arena is "Scientific Ufology: How the Application of Scientific Methodology Can Analyze, Illuminate and Prove the Reality of UFOs", by Kevin D Randle (1999). The author's posit is that government-sponsored projects have a history of bias, creating a need for neutral studies.

                Here is one of my favorite compelling excerpts: "There is no evidence that conclusively proves that UFOs represent alien visitation. There is, however, a great deal of evidence that is suggestive of that conclusion."
                I agree with you and Randle on that. Randle is a top researcher and I have read several of his books.

                Thanks.
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                • Profile picture of the author myob
                  Originally Posted by lastreporter View Post

                  I agree with you and Randle on that. Randle is a top researcher and I have read several of his books.
                  Here are a few more books from this top "researcher":

                  The Spaceships of the Visitors: An Illustrated Guide to Alien Spacecraft

                  History of UFO Crashes

                  Crash: When UFOs Fall From the Sky: A History of Famous Incidents, Conspiracies, and Cover-Ups

                  Invasion Washington: UFOs Over the Capitol

                  UFO Casebook

                  Project Blue Book Exposed

                  The Abduction Enigma

                  UFO Crash at Roswell

                  The Truth About the UFO Crash at Roswell

                  Starship

                  Signals: The Exploration Chronicles

                  Case MJ-12: The True Story Behind the Government's UFO Conspiracies


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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Well, that's an easy one:



    This guy knows his ****.
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    I have several firework photos that look almost identical to that one. And the small little clouds look like firework smoke to me.

    The other thing I noticed, is that there's no reflection of it in the water.
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    • Profile picture of the author lastreporter
      Originally Posted by garyv View Post

      I have several firework photos that look almost identical to that one. And the small little clouds look like firework smoke to me.

      The other thing I noticed, is that there's no reflection of it in the water.
      Excellent observations, I missed. It could also be a light show of some sort. But the lack of reflections is a troubling point for the authenticity of this photo, I agree.

      Thanks.
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