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Why The US Is Having a Financial Crisis -

by celente
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This is a Good one


No wonder the US have financial problems; guess they thought
they would never run out of money!

When NASA first planned to send up astronauts, they quickly
discovered that ball-point pens would not work in zero gravity.

To combat the problem, NASA scientists spent a decade and $1.2
billion to develop a pen that writes in zero gravity, upside down,
underwater, on almost any surface including glass, and at
temperatures ranging from below freezing to +300 C.

Confronted with the same problem, the Canadians used a pencil
  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Originally Posted by celente View Post

    This is a Good one


    No wonder the US have financial problems; guess they thought
    they would never run out of money!

    When NASA first planned to send up astronauts, they quickly
    discovered that ball-point pens would not work in zero gravity.

    To combat the problem, NASA scientists spent a decade and $1.2
    billion to develop a pen that writes in zero gravity, upside down,
    underwater, on almost any surface including glass, and at
    temperatures ranging from below freezing to +300 C.

    Confronted with the same problem, the Canadians used a pencil
    The government has told a LOT of big LIES about various projects. Pressured pens, ball points, gelled ink, etc... and things that could work from like below freezing to about 100C predate the moonshot. Outside the fact that ball points typically aren't pressured, I don't see why they wouldn't work in zero gravity. And WHY would they need to write on things that are 300C!?!?!? Do you have ANY idea how hot that is? It would take SO much energy to create such a temperature, and make things livable in SPITE of it, that it would not be feasible.

    In short, most failings on pens, EVEN TODAY, are to make them simpler and cheaper. It is not, and was not, because they didn't have the technology.

    As for glass, we have products for that that DO write in zero gravity, even THEN! They aren't ball points, but ball points aren't made for that anyway.

    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      From truthorfiction.com - and from wiki and other credible sources...the truth.

      For some people, it's sport to point out government waste and bureaucratic stupidity, but this story about the space pen won't provide ammunition for it. The government did not fund the development of the pen, it did not cost $12 million to perfect, and neither the Americans nor the Russians consider it desirable to use pencils in space. In fact, both Americans and Russians use the space pen for their flights.

      The famous space pen, which is still a popular product today, was developed by Paul Fisher the founder of the Fisher pen company. An engineer who improved ball point technology, he created his "bullet pen" in the 1940's, which became one of the best-selling pens of the Twentieth Century. Later, he perfected a pen that was sealed with pressure inside of the cartridge that made the ink to flow regardless of gravity. It also worked in high and low temperature extremes, underwater, and wrote on many kinds of surfaces. According to the Fisher Pen company, after extensive testing, NASA chose the pen in 1967 for use by Apollo astronauts and it's been a part of space travel ever since. The company says it took Fisher about 2 years and $2 million to develop the space pen. Prior to 1967, there were no pens that worked in space so there were pencils used, but there were concerns about pencil dust floating around the space capsules as well as fears that if the tip of a pencil broke off and drifted into the electronics, there would be problems.
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  • Profile picture of the author MoneyMagnetMagnate
    Plus, of course...the fact that Canada didn't have a Space Program until 1989? :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
    LOL I've read this somewhere before. Such a shame.

    I forget which politician it is, but one of the contenders for the 2012 election wants to put a base on the moon... I mean come on.. really?!!

    I just dont see why we need to spend all this money to build a moon-base when nobody is ever going to use it.
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      This explains it better.
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    • Profile picture of the author MoneyMagnetMagnate
      Originally Posted by Whos That Guru View Post

      LOL I've read this somewhere before. Such a shame.

      I forget which politician it is, but one of the contenders for the 2012 election wants to put a base on the moon... I mean come on.. really?!!

      I just dont see why we need to spend all this money to build a moon-base when nobody is ever going to use it.

      He likes the idea that he would weigh a lot less on the moon...
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by Whos That Guru View Post

      LOL I've read this somewhere before. Such a shame.

      I forget which politician it is, but one of the contenders for the 2012 election wants to put a base on the moon... I mean come on.. really?!!

      I just dont see why we need to spend all this money to build a moon-base when nobody is ever going to use it.
      holy crap!


      Ha ha, now I thought my OP was funny, I want what this guy is smoking. ha ha.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
    Ahhh money nailed it, Newt Gingrich it is!

    One sec I'll see if I can find the article. LOL its great.

    edit: here ya go, enjoy. hahaha

    http://news.yahoo.com/gingrich-calls...022548955.html

    "By the end of my second term, we will have the first permanent base on the moon and it will be American," Gingrich said.
    The bold part I found particularly hilarious.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    WOW! I didn't think he was so dumb!

    1. NO efficient way to get up there!
    2. NO teraforming plans or ability!
    3. NO way to get raw materials there!
    4. PROVEN physical problems with long term stays!
    5. Unknown biological effects on animals!
    6. Problems with plants!

    I could go on and on, but Gingrich is TOO OLD to run for president in 2032! I figure that unless he runs for president in 2032, his chances of being able to do this will be about 0%, and that is ASSUMING that the economy goes back to what it was prior to 2008, like TOMORROW!!!!!!!!, and everyone starts REALLY working towards this goal. NEITHER is likely to happen!

    Of course, I am being optimistic. Really, I feel that in 2032 it will be about as possible as today, or maybe LESS so! I have been saying the same all along, and so far I have been right! When I watched 1999, I watched it as a PURE science fantasy show knowing that NONE of that would happen. And I felt it even before that when I heard about plans to build a moonbase.

    Oh well, at least gingrich hasn't suggested MARS, as some have!

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Hey if Newt wants to build a base on the moon, I say we should all give him the bucks to do it if he promises to take the rest of congress and the house with him. It's not Tralfamadore, but it's a start.
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  • Profile picture of the author MoneyMagnetMagnate
    No - A Prison Colony...GuantanaMoon!

    We will make them mine our Cheese! Mwahahahaha!


    *This is Ground control, to Major Newt,
    You've really lost your mind -
    And we can't believe a single word you say -
    You're the same blow-hard you were as yesterday -
    And your lines aren't making any sense you know...

    *sung to tune of Space (cadet) Oddity...:p
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Wouldn't Newt's head get even bigger on the Moon due to lower pressure from the atmosphere?

    And would the shadow from Newt's head on the Moon be considered an eclipse?
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Wouldn't Newt's head get even bigger on the Moon due to lower pressure from the atmosphere?

      And would the shadow from Newt's head on the Moon be considered an eclipse?
      ha ha. You guys are cracking me up.

      As soon as things turn political look out. LOL :p
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by celente View Post

        ha ha. You guys are cracking me up.

        As soon as things turn political look out. LOL :p
        Yeah, hopefully it won't go THERE! I guess paul is OK with it SO far.

        Sal,

        I have to admit that I had to look "Tralfamadore" up. I guess, in a way, politicians see the EARTH as a "Tralfamadore", since the definition, according to wikipedia, always seems to change. And on one remake of a scifi show the inhabitants of a future earth made a guy believe that an aircraft was a meteor threatening the planet to try to get him to destroy it. Various politicians used it to go to a safe place before a war that destroyed most of the people on the planet. They were now coming BACK to a peaceful earth! The inhabitants were willing to do anything to destroy them. Not only as revenge, but also to prevent it from happening again. I guess a moonbase is the MOST practical way to possibly stay safe during a violent world war.

        Oh well, I never even saw the point of going to the moon.

        And the more we have learned about creatures, the more we realize that we don't know that much. There ARE a lot of problems that have NOT been worked out. If we want to have a moonbase there, the FIRST thing we would need to do is send a small group of smart people there to setup a small base and live there for about a decade! They would have to buttress and expand a tiny base, and live, with NO support from us! They would have to have, and raise, kids, grow plants, etc... Again, with NO help from us! THEN, after about a decade, they would have to fly back. ***IF*** they are healthy, within reasonable earth norms, acclimate quickly, etc... we can think about going ahead. My bet is that they wouldn't even last a WEEK under those conditions. But such a thing is needed to fill in any holes.

        It is like a guy I recently saw that discussed handling a shutdown of the community. He said turn the water, heat, and electricity off and try to live. I would add that you have to live as long as the time of the longest cycle you deal with.

        For accounting systems, you probably want to run through at least a years cycle before saying it is OK. If it has five year reports, run it through 5 years.

        Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author David Maschke
    Come on guys!

    Aren't you being a little tough on the poor guy?

    Newt would be fine on the moon.

    Just let the guy exhale, and there will be so much hot air it'll be a tropical paradise.

    Let's try and stay positive here.
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by David Maschke View Post

      Come on guys!

      Aren't you being a little tough on the poor guy?

      Newt would be fine on the moon.

      Just let the guy exhale, and there will be so much hot air it'll be a tropical paradise.

      Let's try and stay positive here.
      Sure Newt would be fine, and the earth would be fine.
      But the moon, think of the poor moon
      Not to mention what it would do to the old act of mooning someone.
      We would have to change that to Newting someone
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