You Can Make Movies

12 years ago

Well, yeah - you can write words too...but let's face it - doing it well is a little more involved than just pointing a camera or putting pen to paper...

Of course, I'm not talking about a cinematic masterpiece like "Beverly Hills Chihuahua" or anything...

But I'm not in Hollywood North, so there may be more opportunity for the next Orson Welles...

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thunderbird 12 years ago

Hollywood North is gone and good riddance.
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mojojuju

12 years ago

I'm going to start watching only movies that I make. From now on I'll be in charge of producing all of my entertainment. If I'm in the mood for a comedy, then I'll produce a comedy film. Chick flick? Sure! Murder mystery - no problem. Action/toughguy movie - I'll hit the gym and you can call me Stallone. Pornograpy? - I know it's not Hollywood, but I can make that too.... IMA do all my entertainment from now on. I'll even make my own RAP music videos..... Thunderbird, I like your style, man.

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Hindimovie

12 years ago

this is not a easy way to make movie
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HaroonRiaz

12 years ago

However, people will still watch Hollywood movies and will continue doing so.

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thunderbird 12 years ago

Originally Posted by HaroonRiaz

However, people will still watch Hollywood movies and will continue doing so.

I watch Hollywood movies too, as well as myriad non-Hollywood movies. By the way, Hollywood sucks.
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Michael Ten

12 years ago

Yes. Anyone can do it. One can upload long videos to YouTube with proper permissions, or one could distribute a movie via Bit-Torrent. Also there is Amazon Studios. There are lots of options in 2012.

http://studios.amazon.com/

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12 years ago

Whats the best software for making your own movies?

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Entrecon

12 years ago

Software is one thing, but you have to think about lighting, cameras, and other equipment and set-up that is used. There are a lot of movies out there now that we barely hear off because of poor quality production, bad acting and bad scripts.

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thunderbird

12 years ago

How to Make a Movie:
Step 1. Have a Good Script, to which you have legal rights.
Step 2. Figure out where you would shoot the scenes and when you could do so. Scenes that happen at the same location should, ideally, be shot around the same time, even if they are at different parts of the story.
Step 3. Meet up with someone with enough expertise to be a line producer, who figures out the costs. Make sure you'll actually be able to procure funds for it.
Step 4. Find a good cinematographer with time and inclination to shoot the film with you. Discuss the scenes.
Step 5. If you are not directing, find a director that 1. is qualified, 2. is NOT a loose cannon type who'll take stupid creative liberties, and 3. Is psychologically stable. It should be someone who works with you, not some appointed dictator on set.
Step 6. Assemble a crew. Ask dishwashers, street cleaners, janitors, and ditch diggers what they studied at film school and you'll have a crew in no time flat. Make sure for every position you have a back-up because some of them can and will fink out on you, even if they jumped in with both beet, gung ho and all that.
Step 7. Figure out what post-production arrangements you'll be making.
Step 6. Get contracts or legal statements together that state in simple language what they'll do for you, what you get and what they get, and that they won't make claims against you (ie, sue you down the road).
Step 7. If you actually have any professionals with union membership, get union waivers.
Step 8 (maybe an earlier step, but whatever). Audition every potential actor/actress and watch the audition videos carefully. Don't be swayed by beauty, impressive credits, etc -- if they're wrong for the role, don't cast them however high falutin' they are.
Step 9. Make sure you have enough resources to market the film after it is made with an excellent guerrilla marketing strategy.
Step 10. Shoot the film.
Step 11. Post production.
Step 12. Marketing and distribution.

By the way, Hollywood sucks.

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Steven Wagenheim

12 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

How to Make a Movie:
Step 1. Have a Good Script, to which you have legal rights.
Step 2. Figure out where you would shoot the scenes and when you could do so. Scenes that happen at the same location should, ideally, be shot around the same time, even if they are at different parts of the story.
Step 3. Meet up with someone with enough expertise to be a line producer, who figures out the costs. Make sure you'll actually be able to procure funds for it.
Step 4. Find a good cinematographer with time and inclination to shoot the film with you. Discuss the scenes.
Step 5. If you are not directing, find a director that 1. is qualified, 2. is NOT a loose cannon type who'll take stupid creative liberties, and 3. Is psychologically stable. It should be someone who works with you, not some appointed dictator on set.
Step 6. Assemble a crew. Ask dishwashers, street cleaners, janitors, and ditch diggers what they studied at film school and you'll have a crew in no time flat. Make sure for every position you have a back-up because some of them can and will fink out on you, even if they jumped in with both beet, gung ho and all that.
Step 7. Figure out what post-production arrangements you'll be making.
Step 6. Get contracts or legal statements together that state in simple language what they'll do for you, what you get and what they get, and that they won't make claims against you (ie, sue you down the road).
Step 7. If you actually have any professionals with union membership, get union waivers.
Step 8 (maybe an earlier step, but whatever). Audition every potential actor/actress and watch the audition videos carefully. Don't be swayed by beauty, impressive credits, etc -- if they're wrong for the role, don't cast them however high falutin' they are.
Step 9. Make sure you have enough resources to market the film after it is made with an excellent guerrilla marketing strategy.
Step 10. Shoot the film.
Step 11. Post production.
Step 12. Marketing and distribution.

By the way, Hollywood sucks.

Is this for real? Yes, by all means let's just go out and do these 12 things
with NO money.

I've seen some ridiculous threads here but this one takes the cake.

Yeah, let's go out and make a movie. Ha-ha.

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thunderbird

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Is this for real? Yes, by all means let's just go out and do these 12 things
with NO money.

I've seen some ridiculous threads here but this one takes the cake.

Yeah, let's go out and make a movie. Ha-ha.

Actually, Steven, I've done it. I'm kind of surprised at you, since you are a go-getter and all. Yes, it is basically that easy, even with next to no money.

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mojojuju

12 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

Actually, Steven, I've done it. I'm kind of surprised at you, since you are a go-getter and all. Yes, it is basically that easy, even with next to no money.

Any chance you'd show us one of the movies you've produced?

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Steven Wagenheim

12 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

Actually, Steven, I've done it. I'm kind of surprised at you, since you are a go-getter and all. Yes, it is basically that easy, even with next to no money.

I'm also a realist. Sure, I can go out and make a "movie" so to speak.

How good is it going to be? Sure, a great script can make up for a lot of other
things. Heck, I can even write that myself. In fact, I've done it. Had a script
acted out down in Florida by university kids.

Guess what?

It was horrible. It looked like an amateur production because it WAS an
amateur production.

I get that you think Hollywood sucks. I don't like it much either. I'm a fan of
the old movies from when I was a kid and before I was born.

But make no mistake about it, as bad as today's movies are, making a movie
is one of the more difficult things in the world to do...at least to do WELL.

And that is the key.

It has nothing to do with being a go-getter.

Show me your budget. Who are you going to get to work for nothing who is
anywhere near worth their salt and proven in the industry?

So you're essentially relegated to finding "no name talent" who would be
willing to work for a "piece of the potential profits" and hope and pray that
they've got ENOUGH talent to pull this off.

And I'm not talking about just actors.

Directors, lighting, costume design, and on and on and on.

You say you've done it?

Show me the movie you made. I'll tell you how good I think it is and trust me,
I won't be putting on the kid gloves.

I've been writing and producing my own music for over 30 years and people
STILL tell me it sucks as far as production quality.

And recording songs are but a FRACTION of the difficulty of making a movie.

It boggles my mind how you've trivialized one of the most difficult arts in
the world today.

Record a song? Sure
Off Broadway play? Absolutely.

Make a movie? Seriously?

Sorry, but as somebody who has relatives in the industry and who has been
around and involved in the industry for years, it's just not that easy.

But hey, show me what you got.

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thunderbird 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

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Show me the movie you made. I'll tell you how good I think it is and trust me,
I won't be putting on the kid gloves.<snip>

News Flash: I don't need your approval, LOL.
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- Steven Wagenheim 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by thunderbird
  
  News Flash: I don't need your approval, LOL.
  
  No, you're right. You don't. But if you want to put together a product that,
  for the most part, is going to be worth putting together, you're going to need
  somebody's approval.
  
  To get financing for your project...approval of the finance source.
  
  To get actors and directors, etc...approval of script from those you're looking
  to get to work with you.
  
  To make money...approval of the people who are going to actually pay to
  watch your movie.
  
  Like I said, I can make a movie, but it means nothing if the finance source
  won't give me the money because he thinks the project idea sucks, if the
  actors and directors you approach won't touch it because they think the
  plot sucks, but MOST of all...if the people who ultimately spend the money
  to make your movie a "success" think it sucks.
  
  So yes, I take back what I said.
  
  You CAN make movies.
  
  So what?
  
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mojojuju 12 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

Ask dishwashers, street cleaners, janitors, and ditch diggers what they studied at film school and you'll have a crew in no time flat.

I LOLed...
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cvcena

12 years ago

"Step 12. Marketing and distribution." --This part definitely needs a WSO...

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indianhub

12 years ago

but how can it is possible. Please tell me. I am more interested.

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wildcat90

12 years ago

did hollywood turn u down or something?

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thunderbird 12 years ago

Originally Posted by wildcat90

did hollywood turn u down or something?

No. I turned Hollywood down.
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MoneyMagnetMagnate

12 years ago

You can make the greatest movie ever made...without marketing and distribution, you're sunk.

However...with the internet, an Idie has a better chance today than ever before...it can be done -

But it takes an incredible amount of ingenuity and a lot of luck...

Look at movies like "Clerks" and "Blair Witch" etc., ...low budget - big profit...

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Steven Wagenheim

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate

You can make the greatest movie ever made...without marketing and distribution, you're sunk.

However...with the internet, an Idie has a better chance today than ever before...it can be done -

But it takes an incredible amount of ingenuity and a lot of luck...

Look at movies like "Clerks" and "Blair Witch" etc., ...low budget - big profit...

Forget about marketing and distribution. Forget about making money with the
movie.

Do you have any idea how much work goes into making a movie?

Sure, you can do a low budget "Night Of The Living Dead." Hell, that thing
was shot with a hand cam. But making anything beyond that takes resources
and LOTS of talent to make it "watchable."

Have you ever seen some of the low budget stuff that HAS been made?

It defies description.

And today, when you're talking "low budget" you're still talking about spending
$50,000 total costs.

I don't know about you, but I don't have that kind of money to throw around
just for kicks. Because let me tell you, a $50,000 budget movie isn't going to
be worth spit to watch, let alone make any kind of money at all.

How people can trivialize something so complex is beyond me.

Sure...go make a movie. Ha ha ha ha ha.

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

12 years ago

[quote=Steven Wagenheim;5527274]

Do you have any idea how much work goes into making a movie?

Yes - I do.

Have you ever seen some of the low budget stuff that HAS been made?

Yes - I have...

And some have been made for very little and been very good.

Some have cost 80 million and been complete crap...

How people can trivialize something so complex is beyond me.

Sure...go make a movie. Ha ha ha ha ha.

I'm not trivializing the process at all. I know how much work goes into a the making of a film...even a piece of crap takes a lot of work...
But with today's tools, you can make a video for a lot less than you used to - and with the internet you can distribute it for a low cost with ingenuity and viral luck -
If you make something good...it can and will be seen today. That was not always the case.

Originally Posted by thunderbird:That is for sure. New opportunities, equipment, software, make the prospect of shooting movies more viable than ever before. Irrespective of attempts to bait and trash the messenger on this thread, myriad film and video festivals as well as impressive output from film schools show that not only can it be done, but quality work can be produced.

I completely agree with T-bird on that...it can be done -

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thunderbird

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate

You can make the greatest movie ever made...without marketing and distribution, you're sunk.

However...with the internet, an Idie has a better chance today than ever before...it can be done -

But it takes an incredible amount of ingenuity and a lot of luck...

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That is for sure. New opportunities, equipment, software, make the prospect of shooting movies more viable than ever before. Irrespective of attempts to bait and trash the messenger on this thread, myriad film and video festivals as well as impressive output from film schools show that not only can it be done, but quality work can be produced.

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mojojuju

12 years ago

My family wanted to go out to see a movie tonight.

I replied by saying, "Hollywood sucks!"

Then I handed each of them a script, told them to practice their lines and that we'll be filming at 7 pm tonight in an abandoned warehouse downtown.

They better do a good job at this.

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

12 years ago

Originally Posted by mojojuju

My family wanted to go out to see a movie tonight.

I replied by saying, "Hollywood sucks!"

Then I handed each of them a script, told them to practice their lines and that we'll be filming at 7 pm tonight in an abandoned warehouse downtown.

They better do a good job at this.

Don't forget to stop at McD's for a medium fries, and 30 packs of "blood squibs"!

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mojojuju 12 years ago

Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate

Don't forget to stop at McD's for a medium fries, and 30 packs of "blood squibs"!

It sounds like you've done this before.
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