My Michael Phelps rant Just or Nt ?

15 years ago

I don't usually pay too much attention to the
Media because...well we know how the media
Works. He is a role model yes but is he not
Allowed to be human? We have all made mistakes
And have done things that I am sure we are
Not proud of. I guess it just goes to shows that
Michael Is part human and part machine. If he keeps
Ingesting those chemicals then he may slow down so
That the rest of the world can keep up with him !

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DotComBum 15 years ago

He is a human too! human makes mistakes
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Charles E. White

15 years ago

The only thing I have to say is he was supposed to be an example for today's youth that's why he had so many endorsements, his pot smoking wasn't a very good example and lost him millions of dollars.

It's not that I believe smoking pot is the worse thing in the world, been there-done that before some here were even born but for him to smoke it around a bunch of people like he did was idiotic. By the way, I haven't smoke it in about 30 years and haven't drank for 23 years, my personal choice because I like killing myself with these damn cigarettes so well.

By the way, glad you took the advice and moved your thread to off-topic....Welcome to the forum!

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Wakunahum

15 years ago

I'm kind of surprised about all the attention he is getting since a few years back he had some trouble with alcohol and drunk driving while below the legal drinking age and it seemed he got a free pass.

Personal weed use is nothing compared to endangering lives while driving drunk. I see making the one a big deal and not really mentioning the other kind of lopsided.

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Kay King

15 years ago

The whole media blast made me wonder why we insist that someone with a great talent or skill must always be a perfect person?

The shallow news media only reflects our shallow society that expects a sports icon to also be a role model or a perfect example of youth. To me, the dedication and hard work he has put into being the best at what he does is enough of a role model. When we insist on projecting an image of perfection on an accomplished person, we are asking for a letdown.

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Dave Patterson

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

The whole media blast made me wonder why we insist that someone with a great talent or skill must always be a perfect person?

The shallow news media only reflects our shallow society that expects a sports icon to also be a role model or a perfect example of youth. To me, the dedication and hard work he has put into being the best at what he does is enough of a role model. When we insist on projecting an image of perfection on an accomplished person, we are asking for a letdown.

kay

Yeah...and it probably started because some little girl was jealous and snapped the pic because he wasn't paying any attention to HER at some college frat party...or some other little teenage reason)

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John M Kane

15 years ago

Decriminalize that stuff.It's a law which accomplishes nothing intended.

Laws against recreational drugs are nothing more than an income generator for the prison cartels.

Not that it hasn't happened but, I never seen anyone go on a 'Stoned Rage' unlike a 'Drunken Rage' which happens daily.
DUI's should still be prosecuted though.

With heavy use of drugs in out society (read MD) as it is, I'm for 'no holds barred' type Olympics where ALL drugs are allowed. Would be interesting.

We'll soon see guys running 800 meters in like,oh, 35 seconds

And you thought Eric Heiden had some big thighs HA!

For the shotput they would use car engines.
As far as role models for kids, I think most of the children are too full of Ridalin to care or even notice.

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ThomM 15 years ago

Look at all the propaganda he screwed up.
All that money spent to convince people that pot smokers are lazy and can't accomplish anything just went up in smoke (pun intended).
Now to see if he mans up or wimps out.
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HeySal

15 years ago

Hey, there's one hell of a strong movement right now to legalize pot - and if that happens our Prison Corporations (yeah, they are CORPORATIONS - slave corps at that) will lose a hell of a lot of money - and people who make your license plates for 50 cents an hour will actually have to be paid minimum wage and benefits for doing so, and that would put money back into the economy instead of the corporations. It would also take a lot of money from our police departments and people might even start using hemp for clothing again and what would happen to DOW if that happened?

Nope - keep the propaganda rolling or the prisons will be asking for a BAIL OUT, too.

LOL.

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Mike Folsom 15 years ago

I say give him a break...he's not the first and won't be the last.

We've all made mistakes.
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Kurt

15 years ago

Things have really changed. Babe Ruth would get drunk in the dugout during games. Mikey Mantle would go out every night in NY and get plastered. Today, athletes have to be perfect.

And a big hypocrisy is the difference between how we treat athletes vs actors and entertainers. If an athlete partied like Charlie Sheen or Britney Spears has, they'd be run out of they sport. But Hollywood stars get a free pass.

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JesseM

15 years ago

It always amazes me how people can make such a big deal out of famous people. I never understood why fame was anything anyone would want, beyond being known as an Internet marketing guru or something. The movie stars and sports players are monitored too closely...

Although, I think he should be fined or put in jail, whatever would have happened if someone NORMAL had been caught smoking pot.

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Star69

15 years ago

I think his apologizing to 'everyone' is a crock of cra*.

He smoked some grass. BIG DEAL! In this day and age, why does it even matter?! I would imagine there are some White House staffers and more than a couple senators who toke on a very regular basis and nobody says a word about it because they haven't gotten caught yet. (And when they do, they'll cave just like Phelps and make a hollow, meaningless apology.)

If I were him I would never have apologized for my actions, and I would definitely have told USA Swimming to go to he**. They can stuff their stupid suspension. (Ooo! 90 days! Ow!) He should become a man and stand by his actions.

But he's only going for the money. That's the only reason he caved.

In this world of cell phone cameras and youtube, if you don't want to get caught doing something, don't do it, it's that simple.

Alcohol is legal and cannabis isn't. Such hypocracy.

EDIT: He should be fined or put in jail?! FOR WHAT?! Was he beating on a woman like drunks do? No! Was he doing anything, and I mean ANYthing that was harmful to anyone around him? No! Was he driving under the influence? No! (And thank gawd he didn't shoot anyone like that fella in Reefer Madness!)

The worst he should get is a ticket for violating some archane law about being in possesion of certain amounts of a 'controlled substance', and that's ALL he should get.

This whole thing is much ado about nothing.

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ShayB

15 years ago

Okay, let's look at the other view.

This guy has millions of dollars in endorsements. He is held to a higher standard because of those endorsements, IMHO. If someone if paying you big bucks to be a squeaky clean role model, then you need to be a speaky clean role model.

Where do you draw the line?

"Oh, he only smoked pot. That's not so bad." Okay, so if he had done cocaine, is that the point when you penalize him? Heroin?

If you sign on the dotted line for the big fat check, then you need to keep your nose clean. JMHO

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Dave Patterson

15 years ago

Originally Posted by ShayRockhold

Okay, let's look at the other view.

This guy has millions of dollars in endorsements. He is held to a higher standard because of those endorsements, IMHO. If someone if paying you big bucks to be a squeaky clean role model, then you need to be a speaky clean role model.

NO HUMAN BEING is, nor ever will be "squeaky clean"....

Something will be seen, or percieved to be "wrong" in anothers eyes somehow, someway, or sometime...

What he needs to do is buy himself a &%$#off house.

When he's in it everybody else can just &%$#off.

Excuse my language but at the moment I'm in mine.

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ShayB

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Dave Patterson

NO HUMAN BEING is, nor ever will be "squeaky clean"....

Something will be seen, or percieved to be "wrong" in anothers eyes somehow, someway, or sometime...

What he needs to do is buy himself a &%$#off house.

When he's in it everybody else can just &%$#off.

Excuse my language but at the moment I'm in mine.

So it's too much to ask for someone to stay away from smoking pot? :rolleyes:

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Dave Patterson 15 years ago

Originally Posted by ShayRockhold

So it's too much to ask for someone to stay away from smoking pot? :rolleyes:

I don't ask anyone to stay away from anything....I'm already pretty much overwhelmed with all the work required to mind my own business.
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- ShayB 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Dave Patterson
  
  I don't ask anyone to stay away from anything....I'm already pretty much overwhelmed with all the work required to mind my own business.
  
  Then what are you doing here....wasting time....with me? :rolleyes:
  
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  Dave Patterson 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by ShayRockhold
  
  Then what are you doing here....wasting time....with me? :rolleyes:
  
  Because I saw the whips and spanking post and NOW you have my full attention...
  
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  ShayB 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Dave Patterson
  
  Because I saw the whips and spanking post and NOW you have my full attention...
  
  ROTFLMAO
  
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ecoverartist

15 years ago

I bet all the people pointing the finger at him have all smoked pot before too.

Never seen anyone go on a 'Stoned Rage'

I've seen 'em go on a munchie rage afterwards though!

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lcombs

15 years ago

OK. I have to put in my 2 cents worth here.

I can drink a fifth of whiskey and die.
That's legal.
I can go into the woods and eat as many poison berries as I want and die.
That's legal.
I can smoke a pound of pot and wake up feeling like a champ and that's illegal.

(I just lit a cigarette).

And, I couldn't care less if Michael Phelps smokes pot, or A Rod gets a DUI.

Role Models? Yes.
Human? Yes.
Parents teaching their kids the difference?

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15 years ago

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Ken Strong

15 years ago

Anybody here watch TV? Notice how half the commercials these days are advertising drugs? Most of these drugs have significant side effects, some of them pretty serious. People have died taking some of them. But they're pushed and pushed hard into every American home every single night, with full governmental, corporate, and societal approval.

But if someone takes a toke, suddenly they've made a "mistake" and they deserve to be punished, because they're not being a "good role model"? Why is it considered perfectly normal and acceptable to take a drug like Viagra (and advertise it on mainstream network TV), but privately smoking a natural weed like pot is considered wrong and bad in so many ways, to the point where terminally ill people are thrown in prison for smoking it because they just want to be free from pain while they're waiting to die?

What a huge, steaming pile of hypocritical bullshit. It's also certifiably insane.

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ThomM

15 years ago

Originally Posted by KenStrong

Anybody here watch TV? Notice how half the commercials these days are advertising drugs? Most of these drugs have significant side effects, some of them pretty serious. People have died taking some of them. But they're pushed and pushed hard into every American home every single night, with full governmental, corporate, and societal approval.

But if someone takes a toke, suddenly they've made a "mistake" and they deserve to be punished, because they're not being a "good role model"? Why is it considered perfectly normal and acceptable to take a drug like Viagra (and advertise it on mainstream network TV), but privately smoking a natural weed like pot is considered wrong and bad in so many ways, to the point where terminally ill people are thrown in prison for smoking it because they just want to be free from pain while they're waiting to die?

What a huge, steaming pile of hypocritical bullshit. It's also certifiably insane.

I love those commercials where they spend 45 of the 60 seconds listing the side effects.

This is from the Bureau of Mortality Statistics for 1988 listing deaths per year and the cause.

340,000 to 425,000 Tobacco
150,000+ Alcohol (not including 50% of all highway
deaths and 60% of all murders)
180 to 1,000+ Aspirin
1,000 to 10,000 Caffeine ( from stress, ulcers, and
triggering irregular heartbeats)
50 Theopoline (Pharmaceutical drug prescribed for asthma)

0 Marijuana

And people wonder why I've smoked for 40 years and have been an advocate for legalization for the last 30.

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Jared Alberghini 15 years ago

Originally Posted by ThomM

I love those commercials where they spend 45 of the 60 seconds listing the side effects.

ThomM,

What do you mean, like those "If you are human, this may kill you" type of warnings? ROTFLMAO

Yea, they are hilarious, but scary at the same time... can you say "Baaaaaahhh"?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by ThomM

This is from the Bureau of Mortality Statistics for 1988 listing deaths per year and the cause.

340,000 to 425,000 Tobacco
150,000+ Alcohol (not including 50% of all highway
deaths and 60% of all murders)
180 to 1,000+ Aspirin
1,000 to 10,000 Caffeine ( from stress, ulcers, and
triggering irregular heartbeats)
50 Theopoline (Pharmaceutical drug prescribed for asthma)

0 Marijuana

You gotta love stats...

How about this one:

Deaths from violent crimes - 17,800
Deaths from hospital/doctor mistakes - 178,000

These are from 2006 and they seem to indicate that it is more dangerous to visit a medical facility than it is to smoke pot.

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valerieSONORA

15 years ago

Originally Posted by ThomM

I love those commercials where they spend 45 of the 60 seconds listing the side effects.

I never understood that. Is it a requirement? Sometimes it's like a commercial against the medicine.

Side effects can include upset stomach, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stroke, heart attack, blindness, blood clots, and death. Ask your doctor about ____ today.

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ThomM

15 years ago

Originally Posted by valerieSONORA

I never understood that. Is it a requirement? Sometimes it's like a commercial against the medicine.

Side effects can include upset stomach, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stroke, heart attack, blindness, blood clots, and death. Ask your doctor about ____ today.

(Off topic in the off topic forum

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I think it is a requirement or else why would they do it.
Another reason why Cannabis is illegal.
Possible side effects of Cannabis include, good mood, appetite, good nights sleep. See the difference?

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Jared Alberghini

15 years ago

Ken,

What a huge, steaming pile of hypocritical bullshit. It's also certifiably insane.

It's simple, 'They' don't want 'Us' around... that's why so many perscription drugs/151 proof alcohol is so readily available. "Take one of each, and don't bother us in the morning."

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valerieSONORA

15 years ago

It is ridiculous. Don't get me started. How many celebs have had pictures taken of them doing cocaine or weed or some other drug and they weren't punished. They weren't banned from starring in movies or TV shows or ads. Why was this guy singled out? I've never even heard of him before.

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youngnbold 15 years ago

haha the picture was probably taken by someone that had to swim against him in the olympics... jealous much?

he probably should do that in the privacy of his own room... THEN go back to the party
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Christie Love

15 years ago

Just another celebrity let down. The media has to understand, no one's perfect - not even the media.

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15 years ago

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Kurt

15 years ago

I wonder about the warning Cialis gives on its commercial:

If you have an erection for more than 4 hours, call your doctor!

Wouldn't it be better to call a hooker?