We're all Dead...28 Years from Now

12 years ago

I'll be 87, good chance I won't care.

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

12 years ago

Well...if it's Fox News, Obama must be responsible for this somehow...:p

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HeySal

12 years ago

The world human population has just tipped 7 bil..... and most scientists agreed back in the 1970's before the issue was suppressed that 6.5 was carrying capacity. Now we have tipped that and scientists are working like mad against political BS to save enough of our environment that we can survive ourselves. Expect massive famine - it was thought to onset around 2020 - but they now think it's already begun. At first it will be a man-made problem with distribution being the major factor and will increase in severity to natural causes as time goes on. We are about to experience a major die off that will reduce us by 1/3 to 2/3 over the next 30 years. By the time that asteroid hit's, we will have had most of our numbers wiped out via our own greed and stupidity anyway. As far as I can see it - extinction of our own species might be the only way that any life on this planet will be able to survive any catastrophe. Some species will undoubtedly survive an asteroid strike unless the rock is big enough to knock us out of orbit unless we drive the planetary life forms to extinction before then anyhow. I'd say we should worry about first things first.

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GMD

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

The world human population has just tipped 7 bil..... and most scientists agreed back in the 1970's before the issue was suppressed that 6.5 was carrying capacity. Now we have tipped that and scientists are working like mad against political BS to save enough of our environment that we can survive ourselves. Expect massive famine - it was thought to onset around 2020 - but they now think it's already begun. At first it will be a man-made problem with distribution being the major factor and will increase in severity to natural causes as time goes on. We are about to experience a major die off that will reduce us by 1/3 to 2/3 over the next 30 years. By the time that asteroid hit's, we will have had most of our numbers wiped out via our own greed and stupidity anyway. As far as I can see it - extinction of our own species might be the only way that any life on this planet will be able to survive any catastrophe. Some species will undoubtedly survive an asteroid strike unless the rock is big enough to knock us out of orbit unless we drive the planetary life forms to extinction before then anyhow. I'd say we should worry about first things first.

Speaking of knocking the Earth out of orbit: I remember when I was a kid I was at the grocery store and one paper had the headline along these lines:

Chinese Government to Command All Chinese Citizens to Jump Up at Once

The end result, of course, being the Earth would be knocked out of orbit. I guess that never happened 'cause here we all our.

But you raise an interesting point about the world's capacity: the irony is as technology advances (our ability to produce more food, cure disease, manipulate genetics) the world population is going to explode over the coming decades -- to what end who knows? But you did touch on that a little in your post.

While my initial post might include a little tinge of levity, let's seriously think about it for a second: it's confirmed that there's something out there big enough to destroy -- or alter -- life as we know it on the planet Earth. And right now there's a 1:625 chance for that happening.

Those odds will either decrease or increase as these star gazers figure out the orbit and trajectory of this object.

Some of us will be alive in 2040 -- whether you're old or not. Some of us will have children alive then.

Or our children's children.

In the grand scheme of things it at least outlines how fragile and temporary life is: it should motivate us to live our lives a little differently.

Don't sweat the small stuff. Keep stress and drama to a minimum. Spend more time with the family if that's your thing. Take that vacation. Write that novel. Indulge in life a little; it's not all about money.

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  Surely we haven't come this far to be wiped out by a little rock. 1 in 625 are good odds. If I were a betting man, I'd put money on us surviving 2040.
  
  Then again, thinking about it, I can't actually lose.
  
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rondo

12 years ago

That sucks. 2040 is the year my pension is due to begin.

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payment proof 12 years ago

We'll have better missiles by 2040 and we'll blow the sucker up.
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  We'll have better missiles by 2040 and we'll blow the sucker up.
  
  Or live underground with a sophisticated means of survival.
  
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HeySal

12 years ago

In the past decade (or more?) scientists have been working on electromagnetism and I'm pretty positive that by the year 2040 we would be able to deflect something as small as an asteroid. If another planet were to go rogue and hit us, well that's a new game of marbles all together and, yeah, both planets would end up waste lands in that case.

Underground living can only take humans so far. I'm thinking that if everything on top was completely devastated - sooner or later everything below would go fubar itself.

Incidentally - our technology has not created more ability to grow food. Our use of toxins in agriculture and our methods of agriculture have actually resulted in a culminating loss of fertile soil and production levels are falling. GMO's are proving not only disastrous, but do not give the extra yields they were supposed to have been good for. Our production capabilities are falling -- and millions of hectacres a year are becoming desertificated through human misuse. Those soils can't just instantly be rebuilt - it takes hundreds of years. Japan is developing a means that will allow desertificated soil to be rehydrated and possibly grow foliage again - but salinity of dessicated soil is still a problem that would need to be dealt with in long-term desertificated areas. As the population grows, we lose more and more soil. You can't grow more food for a growing population, when that population is eating land you need to grow the crops.

Every dominant species in an ecosystem will overpopulate when conditions are good - the over-carrying capacity numbers then strip their sources of sustenance and the species either migrates out (which in our case would require a new planet capable of supporting us), or dies off sometimes all the way to extinction. That's how our planet ecosystems work. Unfortunately - humans got so egocentrically pig headed they started to believe that they were no longer part of the earth's ecosystems, but above nature. LMAO.......well......guess what. FAIL. There is no way to prevent this dominant species from dying out the same way as every other species that has stripped its resources. It doesn't matter what our technology is unless we can build that damned extra planet. We aren't talking about a little problem that a new convenience will fix. We're talking about 7 BILLION people on a finite and diminishing area of land. We screwed up. Period.

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ace21

12 years ago

I think it's inevitable that a disaster will strike us eventually. The only question is when and what it will be? Hopefully there is an afterlife at least, and its better than this one

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myob

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Young And Opulent

Whose gonna enter this niche first?

I'm ready to launch, pending the expiration of the fortune-making Maya 2012 niche. There's already 3,000 Amazon books on this topic for your selling pleasure, ie "Impact!: The Threat of Comets and Asteroids".

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HeySal

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Young And Opulent

Whose gonna enter this niche first?

Judging on the amount of my customers that are asking me if I am going to produce more disaster niche PLR, I would say "going to" is a day late and dollar short. I'm sure there's plenty of room for the creative marketer, though. There are over 7 billion people on earth to terrorize and no telling how many of em are using google.

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Kay King

12 years ago

and the possibility -- however remote

The space rock presents a "decision challenge" to the international community, Schweickart suggested, "in the unlikely chance that its current low, but significant probability of impacting Earth in 2040 continues to increase after additional tracking becomes available."

Probably won't - won't know for years - only 1/2 orbit observed so far....but an excellent piece of information to disseminate by NASA which is suffering from ongoing budget cuts....

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Dennis Gaskill

12 years ago

I'll be 84 in 2040 . . . still a young man. Luckily for me I have my anti-asteroid deflector and special glasses that let me see through dust storms and hidden agendas.