Anyone Believe In The 2012 Thing?

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I'm hoping it's just another "scare story."
  • You mean the "The Mayans" thing? ...

    Or... "The Elections" thing? :rolleyes:

    They're BOTH pretty scary!
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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      Lol. The Mayan's thing.
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        The Mayans did not even believe in the "2012 Mayan's thing". :rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          The Mayans did not even believe in the "2012 Mayan's thing". :rolleyes:
          Good?

          ...
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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

            Good?
            A few people are going to die on that date, but the Maya never really said much about it.
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            • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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              Originally Posted by myob View Post

              A few people are going to die on that date, but the Maya never really said much about it.
              I'm not sure what you mean. Care to elaborate?
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              • Profile picture of the author myob
                Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                I'm not sure what you mean. Care to elaborate?
                There is no record anywhere that the Maya ever said anything regarding what would happen when their 4,200 year or so calendar turns over to the next cycle. But, statistically, this tool may help determine your survivability beyond 12/21/2012.
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                • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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                  Originally Posted by myob View Post

                  But, statistically, this tool may help determine your survivability beyond 12/21/2012.
                  Considering all my "partying" I'm thrilled with this prediction. : )

                  Based on our calculations you will die on: Friday, 15th July 2050
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                • Profile picture of the author Elizabeth Fee
                  Originally Posted by myob View Post

                  There is no record anywhere that the Maya ever said anything regarding what would happen when their 4,200 year or so calendar turns over to the next cycle. But, statistically, this tool may help determine your survivability beyond 12/21/2012.
                  Wow.... I sort of wish I didn't try that tool. Having some "date" in mind may now forever haunt me. LOL.
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  • Profile picture of the author Entrecon
    The day after elections one party will believe the world haa come to an end. The Mayans will have been half right.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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  • Profile picture of the author pinewater
    good question. no answers.
    it's all speculation and unless you have extraordinary information that is true and not hallucination then take action. could the mayans run out of stone on their calendar and it ended where it ended cuz it had to end somewhere? or is this some event horizon crossing that ushers in a new period?
    remember year 2000?
    what can you do about it?
    if you could run, where would you go? for how long?
    do you believe in reincarnation? this could be a phase change.
    if you're more into physicality and this is all we have -
    my idea is an airship. and it will have hydrogen.
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    • Originally Posted by pinewater View Post

      good question. no answers.
      it's all speculation and unless you have extraordinary information that is true and not hallucination then take action. could the mayans run out of stone on their calendar and it ended where it ended cuz it had to end somewhere? or is this some event horizon crossing that ushers in a new period?
      remember year 2000?
      what can you do about it?
      if you could run, where would you go? for how long?
      do you believe in reincarnation? this could be a phase change.
      if you're more into physicality and this is all we have -
      my idea is an airship. and it will have hydrogen.
      Like many of us had to do when the clocks turned over @ Y2K...

      We have Mayan Engineers on standby - (but they won't have to do it on New Year's Eve :p)
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  • Profile picture of the author payment proof
    I think it's hype. Or at least I hope so, lol.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      I have heard so many end of the world predictions throughout my lifetime that I can't even count them. Many have come out of "the religious sect" for lack of a better term, but anyway...

      Well, I just look at it this way.

      I'm still standing
      better than I ever did,
      Looking like a true survivor,
      feeling like a little kid!

      Haha, love me some good ole Elton John. :p

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Jonathan - First off, Mayans did not record or recognize time in the same fashion we do - even the archaeologists who have been studying that culture for decades, and even present surviving Mayans, have no clue what the correct ending date of that calendar is. Endings in Mayan time cycles consists of cycles of energy, so the only thing that is ending is a long-term energy cycle....."cycle" - which means a new cycle will be starting just as we are now into the second or third year of our own sun cycle 24. The galactic alignment spoken of also happens but very infrequently. The arms of the galactic disk do not always run in a stringent line - they wave a little as they rotate around the center core, either rising or dipping a tad. All a galactic alignment means is that all the arms align in a straight line across that if you drew a line through the center of the galaxy and extended it out, it would go through the center of all the galaxy arms, too. There are theories about cosmic winds being a problem during such an alignment but earth survived other alignments and nothing noticeable has been seen by any paleobiologists or paleogeologists. As far as the predicted planetary alignment.....I don't know anything about it. Never looked into it, but the planets have aligned in many different alignments before and will continue to do so, so I just am not interested enough to actually study it.

    Most of the current voova over 2012 was marketing, just like the SECRET, was mostly just a marketing ploy to sell some very ancient concepts (the possible validity of which I am not going to discuss here). There's been one cult religion leader - and I can't remember who the hang he is, that is probably making beaucoup bucks purporting that his followers be ready for an "ascension" of sorts. I knew one of the followers and I can see where the guy got his little charts of energies, etc. from Mayan concepts (even if he just made them up, I can see where he got the premises from Mayan idiologies).

    As far as prophesying what is going to happen on the last day of that calendar, it seems someone would be more concerned about finding out exactly what day that calendar actually ends on before anything else. Cart, horse, ya know? LMAO.
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  • Profile picture of the author DavidTT
    actually the real date was dec 21 2011. I guess some ppl decided to mess around with the date just because 2012 sounds scarier.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by DavidTT View Post

      actually the real date was dec 21 2011. I guess some ppl decided to mess around with the date just because 2012 sounds scarier.
      There was no "real date" to begin with. The discrepancies arise depending on which calendar was used in correlating with the Mayan Long Count calendar, ie Gregorian or Julian calendar system. The great majority of Maya researchers use what is known as the Goodman-Martinez-Thompson, or GMT, correlation. Converting from the Maya base 20 numbering system beginning with a mythological starting-point is error prone when trying to match it up with historically inaccurate solar calendars. Current researchers simply agree that December 21, 2012 (Gregorian) is the day that the Mayan calendar will turn over to the next cycle. Anything beyond that (ie galactic and planetary alignments, polar reversal, catastrophic destruction, etc) is new age voodoo.
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    According to archaeological experts on the Maya, even the Maya didn't believe it. It's some nonsense cooked up by brain-fried hippies who misinterpreted some stuff while high on peyote or something.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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      I think you people are right. : ) They said the same thing about Year 2000. (And probably many other dates.)
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

      According to archaeological experts on the Maya, even the Maya didn't believe it. It's some nonsense cooked up by brain-fried hippies who misinterpreted some stuff while high on peyote or something.
      That's highly possible (I'm sorry, can't ever resist a good pun). I figured it was that religious cult leader because his type would actually get something out of the promotion of that theory, unlike chicken fried hippie brains.

      David - you know something that the scientists trying to unravel that complex calendar do not? Screwing with the date that nothing particularly unusual is going to happen on seems a bit more futile than making end of the world theories in the first place - I guess we have to go back to "brain-fried hippies....on peyote" to explain your remark, too, eh?

      So since our sun is a star that has a life expectancy of only around another 100 million years, and is of a mass that usually super-novas at the end, why don't we make a new end of the world theory for around that time. Cause when the sun blows, that REALLY is the end here no matter what is or isn't here.

      Ya see - that already happened to another planet of beings.....and they were advanced enough to get us here, but they are probably way too disgusted with us to come and pick us up and take us somewhere else when we need to leave. So I'd say it's time to concentrate on building our own ride and figuring out where to drive it to.
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        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        Ya see - that already happened to another planet of beings.....and they were advanced enough to get us here, but they are probably way too disgusted with us to come and pick us up and take us somewhere else when we need to leave.
        That's somewhat fascinating. What do you mean by another planet of beings and having them get us here?

        Cheers.
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        • Profile picture of the author HeySal
          Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

          That's somewhat fascinating. What do you mean by another planet of beings and having them get us here?

          Cheers.
          Just having a bit of fun. There is a theory in some circles - maybe more of the high-fried hippie brain persuasion stuff....... anyhow it goes like this:

          One planet of humanoid creatures found their sun was getting ready to nova, so they built spaceships and found a planet to transport some of their people to so their species would continue on. That planet? Earth. The ships that the ancients alluded to in their scriptures were actually ships of these people who kept watch over the beings that they transported here.

          So what I was referring to is that we've been disgusting enough that if they find out our sun is gonna blow, they won't make any effort to get us off this rock.

          There are other "theories" that have gone something like that one to account for humans on earth.
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      • Profile picture of the author GT
        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        ... So since our sun is a star that has a life expectancy of only around another 100 million years, and is of a mass that usually super-novas at the end, why don't we make a new end of the world theory for around that time. Cause when the sun blows, that REALLY is the end here no matter what is or isn't here...
        By that time, if mankind is still alive, we will have discovered an energy source that will allow us to securely enclose the Earth and move it to a different solar system with a much younger sun.

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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Ten
    At most I believe it is metaphorically true, otherwise I believe that it is just a false prophecy.
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  • Profile picture of the author slvrsrfr
    I predict that 153,000 people will die on 21 December 2012.

    Maybe 144,000 of those are the faithful headed towards heaven. The rest of them - the 9,000 - might be headed to hell or Planet X.

    The rest of us will likely wake up with a hangover thinking the world has ended
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  • Profile picture of the author Fighterer
    The end of one epoch and the start of the other have always been accompanied with a lot of scary stories, but they never come true. Relax.
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  • Profile picture of the author CashGiftingExpert
    I don't believe it. End of the world was predicting few times before and nothing happened. The closest we came to an "end" was the whole Y2K when we went from 1999 to 2000 lool
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    End of forum.... LOL
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  • Actually...people have been predicting the end of the World, almost since the World began...
    (in theological terms, of course)
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  • Profile picture of the author bailbondsguys
    The Mayan Calendar was designed to follow the astral movements of the heavenly bodies and was vastly complex and more accurate than our current calendar systems. Mayans were star gazers because they believed the stars were the gods so the majority of their efforts was spent studying the skies.

    Since the calendar is designed based off the movements of the celestial bodies the calendar comes to and end when the Galactic Alignment occurs in 2012. The mayans had a series of calendars, the two most famous called the short count and the long count. Basically 13 short count rotations of their calendar make up the long count rotation at which time the cycle starts over. Mayan belief was that everytime the short count calendar ends it was deemed to be the "end of an age".

    One short count "end of an age" example occurred several thousand years ago and corresponded with a flash frost that effected primarily Peru and devastated crops. This phenomenon was however isolated only to the area surrounding Peru due to changing weather systems.

    So the belief of Mayans are that Dec. 23 2012 is going to be the end of an era and the start of something new, whether that's human consciousness, apocolypse or whatever was never specifically prophesized by the Mayans.

    So do I believe in the prophecy? Well yes I do believe we will see a galactic alignment which is a phenomenon that will not be seen for generations to come. However beyond that there really is no prophecy set forth by the Mayans and I'd be very unlikely to believe a doomsday prophecy that was predicted by a group of people that did not have access to a wheel and used logs to roll large stone construction materials to build their pyramids.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mae Rose
      I don't believe in the Mayan 2012 thing because it's only GOD who knows everything. Surely, the world will end but there is no time nor date being set for it. All we've got to do is to prepare ourselves for the LORD's second coming by having CHRIST as our personal Savior and having a relationship with HIM.
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      • Profile picture of the author bailbondsguys
        Originally Posted by Mae Rose View Post

        I don't believe in the Mayan 2012 thing because it's only GOD who knows everything. Surely, the world will end but there is no time nor date being set for it. All we've got to do is to prepare ourselves for the LORD's second coming by having CHRIST as our personal Savior and having a relationship with HIM.
        The world (Earth) will end when the sun burns up most of it's fuel resulting in it's expansion due to its gravity waning which will inevitably swallow most of the planets in our solar system before it implodes. With that being said, I'm pretty sure it is set in stone that the world will end although it will be billions of years away.

        Humanity will most likely end much sooner than the Earth will. I for one believe that if a higher power does exist we should all be considered the son's and daughter's of "God" (not only humans) and putting my "faith" in "one man" who claims to be the "only son of God" would make me look like a fool to any being of higher intelligence.

        But to each their own right? I guess we'll find out who's right when we're dead! XD
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  • Profile picture of the author paul_1
    I always try to live my life like the world's gonna end tomorrow...
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      Originally Posted by paul_1 View Post

      I always try to live my life like the world's gonna end tomorrow...
      Makes for a short work week, huh?
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by paul_1 View Post

      I always try to live my life like the world's gonna end tomorrow...
      Wow! If I lived my life like there were no tomorrow, I'd be out having too much fun to ever get any work done!

      That could be detrimental to my business. :p

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  • Profile picture of the author cathyzxy
    I don't believe it at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author kitzlerqo
    This is a complete hoax. the calendar only tells the end of a cycle not the world. on December 22 is the start of the space cycle so what's there to be afraid of.
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