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Should Greece FlipThe Bird At The World Government?

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Argentina gave the world government the middle finger and is better off for it. Can Greece also say "F*ck You" to the IMF World Government?
What Greece Can Learn from Argentina | Common Dreams
  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    WOW! They have a point. What they should do, at least for jerks that commit fraud and spend money in this way, is go back to policies they had 100s of years ago!

    1. Bring back REAL prisons!
    2. Bring back DEBTOR prisons.
    3. Start enforcing traitor, etc... laws.
    4. Tell the world bank "You paid the money on THEIR word! THEIR credit! In consideration of your payment, we will sentence them to a life of hard labor! HEY! Have any nice hard labor you need done?"

    WHY should jean val jean(sp?) have had it SO hard, and yet the politicians benefit? WHY martha stewart, and NOT them? WHY Madoff, and not THEM? Madoff, bad as he was, was a penny ante pre school NOTHING compared to the US government. It would be like comparing a guy with a 9MM to a complete fully armed US army battalion, complete with nukes and ICBMs! Seriously, the difference is about that great! Did Madoff bankrupt even ONE government? The US bankrupted several!

    REALLY, ALL the governments have gotten too big and corrupt. The presidents and/or prime ministers act more like kings or queens. IRONIC since the kings and queens, without the pomp, are so much more like the average citzens!

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    Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

    Argentina gave the world government the middle finger and is better off for it. Can Greece also say "F*ck You" to the IMF World Government?
    What Greece Can Learn from Argentina | Common Dreams
    Is it just me or does the term "world government" send chills up anyone else's spine?

    World bank, of course, considers itself the world gov. In my estimation it should just be closed down period - crimes against humanity, fraud, etc. The let EVERY country deal with their OWN economy and people.
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Is it just me or does the term "world government" send chills up anyone else's spine?

      World bank, of course, considers itself the world gov. In my estimation it should just be closed down period - crimes against humanity, fraud, etc. The let EVERY country deal with their OWN economy and people.
      I was just watching an old interview with Greenspan and he said something that puts this all into proper perspective.
      The general gist of what he said was, the federal reserve or central bank is not a part of the federal govt. and was in fact above it in terms of monetary issues. It's the same thing with the world bank. It requires the governments to act in their best interest and not the peoples. It's the reason countries are having the financial problems that they are. You don't take over a country with wars any more you take them over with debt and controlling that debt.
      I hope Greece does follow Argentina, and I hope we do also.
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

        I was just watching an old interview with Greenspan and he said something that puts this all into proper perspective.
        The general gist of what he said was, the federal reserve or central bank is not a part of the federal govt. and was in fact above it in terms of monetary issues. It's the same thing with the world bank.
        It always amazes me how often they tell the truth. There is SO much fraud going around!

        Our "Currency" is like stock certificates. OK, they are REALLY zero coupon bonds, in reverse, but stock is easier to understand here. It is like your pension is tied up in a certain company's stock. You can HATE the company, but you dare not say ANYTHING bad lest your entire life savings go up in smoke.

        IMAGINE! They printed up money that was WORTHLESS! DOMESTIC operations need it to do business with the government, and it is the ONLY country currency this place has to facilitate payments elsewhere. And EARLIER, it was redeemable for gold and silver. NOW, it has NO value AT ALL, but all depend on it. And Americans used to laugh at WAMPUM!

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        • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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          The one world government doesn't give a flying f what any of you think or feel. It's not your job to question us. When we say jump, you jump and if you don't jump quick enough, remember this... you're all completely disposable.

          You can squabble, protest, disagree all you like, it won't make one iota of difference. Care to disagree, argue the point, make a nuisance of yourselves... how would you like 'a bullet in the head'?

          That's how they think about you. Don't be misled ever thinking they have your best interests at heart. Whatever you're given can just as easily be taken away from you in the blink of an eye. All that you stand for, everything you believe in, everything you've fought for - we don't actually give a sh*t. You are replaceable.

          It's as simple as that, have no qualms about it. Wake up and smell the roses.


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          • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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            I mean seriously... do you really want to know what goes on inside their mindset? Indepth? Do you want the lid blown wide open? Do you want to be scared absolutely sh*tless? Do you want your entire world turned upside down? Everything which you thought was true blown up in your faces?

            Sometimes it's better for most people not to be given the whole truth. Most of you, no offense, aren't prepared (yet) for the events yet to be played out in the next few decades globally.

            Believe you me, it's not the best feeling in the world having this knowledge. Fortunately or unfortunately depending on your viewpoint... I was brought up in this from birth. I grew up inside the one world government. I know the score inside out.

            Maybe one of these days I'll write a book about it all. It's been on my mind for many, many years to do so. But caveat... what would be the point in doing so?

            Most of the population, 99% of it wouldn't know how to handle the knowledge if it was handed to them on a plate or what to do with this knowledge anyway.

            Suffice to say, at the top of 'the pile' the puppet masters pulling all the strings, no matter your country of origin, you'll do exactly as you're told and the story...

            ...the story is all predestined. Even the puppet masters themselves (your ever so 'friendly' NWO world leaders) if they wanted out couldn't do a thing to stop it even in the very unlikely event they wanted to.

            Earth's controllers, the entire political corporate system is all heading one way and I can tell you, the picture ain't pretty.

            Dig around. Ignore the conspiracy theorists. That load of old cobblers just plays straight into their overall agenda. But dig deeper if you feel so inclined and it shouldn't take the average person with average intelligence too long to start fitting a lot of the bigger pieces of the overall jigsaw puzzle together. Look at history. It's just repeating itself (again).

            But when you have this knowledge, what are you going to do about it?

            Bury your head in the sand out of sheer terror or put this knowledge to some good use?

            Whatever you decide to do, it's mostly all pretty pointless anyway.

            Whatever will be, will be. It's going to happen anyway. Like it or not...
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  • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
    how can i say yes so it extends ten characters

    yeah yeah yeah

    bout time the world started telling imf to stick it

    and bring back jamaican bananas,
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      Originally Posted by oncewerewarriors View Post

      how can i say yes so it extends ten characters
      affirmative

      "like, totally, dude" works, too.
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      • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        affirmative

        "like, totally, dude" works, too.
        yeah, yeah, yeah, you are right

        infirmative to that
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          I think people in Germany would be very happy if Greece turned down the money. Like that is going to happen.

          Argentina came back - but it's on the edge again now.
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          • Profile picture of the author seasoned
            Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

            I think people in Germany would be very happy if Greece turned down the money. Like that is going to happen.

            Argentina came back - but it's on the edge again now.
            A lot of people PUSHED germany into agreeing. apparently, THEY carry a lot of weight, and have a lot of say in the matter.
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            • Profile picture of the author Kay King
              German people are unhappy with the deal for good reason, I think. They have been fiscally responsible and are now faced with bailing out countries that have not been responsible.

              I think that's part of the problem on several levels. Bailing out a business or a country in many instances only improves them somewhat - and it has a negative affect on those providing the bailout.

              Bailouts often remove consequences - and I'm not sure that's a good thing in the long run. I don't think we've heard the end of the Greek financial problems.
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              • Profile picture of the author seasoned
                Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                German people are unhappy with the deal for good reason, I think. They have been fiscally responsible and are now faced with bailing out countries that have not been responsible.

                I think that's part of the problem on several levels. Bailing out a business or a country in many instances only improves them somewhat - and it has a negative affect on those providing the bailout.

                Bailouts often remove consequences - and I'm not sure that's a good thing in the long run. I don't think we've heard the end of the Greek financial problems.
                It's ****ALWAYS**** a bad idea to remove consequences from such behaviour! It ENCOURAGES the behaviour to CONTINUE! Let's say you gave a kid a credit card, and they keep buying and buying stuff. Do you want to keep paying it off and let them continue? GREAT! You'll probably end up BROKE!

                Even the RICHEST people that have trust funds, etc... have SOME limit. In fact, that is what trustfunds are for. They limit the funds. Most credit cards have a LIMIT! Banks generally loan with a LIMIT. They have consequences ALL AROUND.

                WHY do people think countries are ANY different? The lack of consequences created EVERY failure in the US, right down to 2008. HELL, 1929 played into a WORLD WAR! WWIII might happen soon because of 2008! It would probably have happened sooner, if not for the bailouts, but probably would have been smaller and shorter.

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    Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

    Argentina gave the world government the middle finger and is better off for it. Can Greece also say "F*ck You" to the IMF World Government?
    What Greece Can Learn from Argentina | Common Dreams
    A subject very, very close to my heart.

    Greece isn't really in a position to do so. They've not actually not much to offer the rest of the world. A bit of shipping, what else? Tourism? That's not going to sway anyone much. Unfortunate but it is what it is.

    As for the rest of us...

    Could we all flip our finger at the IMF, Trilateral Commission and all the rest of the cogs in the NWO wheel?

    Yes, if together we all stood up and said, "No, we're not going to accept your monetary standard. Ours is a different form of barter. We don't need your system with all of it's inherent debt laden problems which cause the rich to get richer and the poor poorer. Stuff the bloody lot of you. We're opting en masse for another more fair system which levels the playing field for everyone."

    And together come time to vote, vetoed our ballot papers en masse as a form of mass protest. This would definitely send out a very clear signal to the NWO puppet masters and their political meglamaniac global corporate entities.

    Hopefully I'll see this in my lifetime.


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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by Mark Andrews View Post

      A subject very, very close to my heart.

      Greece isn't really in a position to do so. They've not actually not much to offer the rest of the world. A bit of shipping, what else? Tourism? That's not going to sway anyone much. Unfortunate but it is what it is.<snip>
      True. Argentina has a lot of advantages that would help allow for it -- abundant natural resources, lots of fertile soil, geographical location, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Mark,

    I may not know the people, or the overall reason, but I have been screaming about this even when I was a little kid. Just in SCHOOL you see it. YEAH, even in primary school.
    It affects school, media, finances, all sorts of relations, etc...

    Until enough people realize what is REALLY happening (the "99%"'ers don't have a CLUE), are prepared, and organize something, it is difficult to do ANYTHING. Corporations, tax disparities, the markets, etc... are more a symptom than a primary cause. The subprme market should not have even EXISTED! NOW, MANY, mostly VERY poor, are paying over 144% interest PER YEAR!!!!!!!!!! WHY? EARLIER, it was like 4% per exchange transaction or "there's the door"!

    It would be interesting to see what would be in your book. I watched a movie yesterday, and the narrator said several words that SCREAMED "FOREIGNER TRYING TO SOUND AMERICAN!!!"! And when I say foreigner, I mean english was NOT his native language, unless he was taught VERY poorly. Anyway, he said thngs like Reagan was cloned. A clone would be WAY too young, be mentally different in key areas, would speak differently, etc... Granted, alzheimers could hide some of the differences, but how do they explain a gun shot giving him alzheimers? But SOME of the stuff, like the basic idea of the IRS, FED, and some wars, WAS correct. Who knows about the other stuff? Like I said though, THAT doesn't really matter.

    Steve
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