FINACIAL TIMEBOMBS ABOUT TO GO OFF?

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For a number of years now, i have observed with interest the Fleet street letter and the a group who have predicted events over the years with accurate information about investments.....next? not for the fainthearted!



FTSE to Crash almost 30% by April! Learn why this plunging emerging market economy could be about to blast the FTSE 100 below 3,000 come Easter... and the three "world beater" shares that could FLY out of the rubble in the years that follow...

Total Sterling Collapse! We see the pound getting annihilated in 2009 leaving the cash in your pocket - and your savings - little better than monopoly money.
House Prices Cut in HALF! Think last year's falls were bad? Well brace yourself... this report reveals exactly how much further house prices are likely to plummet...



The evening news does not address the true state of affairs. Neither do the Government. They'll tell you "everything is under control"... use words like "fiscal stimulus." They try to dazzle you with vague pie-in-the-sky plans to reinvent the economic landscape.

But don't you believe them.

Truth is... it's their own actions that have exacerbated this almost certain eventuality... and made the terrifying outcome ever more likely.

Now there's no turning back.

What massive events are we talking about?

It's not just the recession. But a permanent... sustained... and wholly new crisis that will make previous busts like that of the early nineties... and even the 1970s... pale in comparison.

That's exactly why I'm writing to you today.

I want to show you what's really happening... and what is very likely to happen from here on in. To give you the shocking facts nobody else wants to share... or even admit.

And most importantly, to show you how to prepare for what comes next...

The question is: will YOU be among the fortunate few who take action to secure their futures? Or will you be among the millions of ordinary Britons whose investments crumble thanks to unseen events this year?

Welcome to
"Britain on the Brink"

In this report we reveal specific financial moves you should make today that could protect and expand your wealth - while others watch their wealth contract at a shocking rate.

Even if you do nothing else, this FREE information could protect you from a lot of future heartache.

Our past advice has protected investors from the Black Monday stock market crash of 1987... the Asian currency crisis of 1996... the "tech wreck" of 2000... the rise of Islamic fundamentalism in 2000... the record oil price spikes from 2004 and the bursting of the credit bubble in 2007.

But it was at the very start of 2008 when we issued perhaps our most direct, urgent warning: "The City's dream run is about to end... and it could trigger our worst recession in 35 years."

Our forecasts for housing... unemployment... writedowns... a crushing halt in UK economic growth... the weakening pound... all came true with startling accuracy. But crucially, we offered solutions as to how you could best avoid and prepare for these events.

Of course, we don't predict every event with 100% accuracy, but when it comes to preparing for the BIG events - the events that can really affect your financial health - we're ALWAYS ahead of the curve.

Now I want to illustrate just how important our next predictions could be if you're prepared to give 5 minutes of your time to read on...

Because if we're correct again, you'll not only be well placed to survive the next 12 months, you could greatly prosper too...

TIMEBOMB #1: Financial D-DAY! How you could protect yourself - and profit - from the coming Debt Disaster...

In June 1944 Britain and her allies secretly shored-up on the beaches of Normandy to rid the world of an evil tyranny.

Today, it's our shores about to be invaded by an enemy. When it finally lands, there'll be hell to pay.

Of course we won't be attacked with bombs or tanks... but it could be just as financially destructive for every single taxpayer, homeowner and investor in the UK.

And yet it's one threat
NO-ONE sees coming...

Right now, the whole nation drags round heavy chains of debt − banks, government and people. We're strangled by it.

Our national debt alone stands at a terrifying £400 billion. But that figure - in itself frightfully high - is a drop in the ocean compared with the collective indebtedness of the banks now under effective government control.

Don't get me wrong. I know this is hardly breaking news.

No, it's what the Government is doing about it that alarms us... and the fact it pervades almost every "expert" view out there.

Already another £250 billion of taxpayer's money - YOUR money - has been pledged to prop up our failing banks.

But it's not working.

Banks still refuse to lend. Everything's ground to a halt. Shops are closing... job vacancies are drying up... unemployment is surging... property values are plummeting...

And meanwhile Britain's debt curve is going straight UP.

Why should this concern you? Your investments? Your retirement? Your savings?

Very soon every pound you own could
be worth a whole lot less

It's no longer difficult to imagine the national debt doubling or even tripling as the banking crisis persists.

If the UK is moved to nationalise more - or even ALL - of our banks... in one fell swoop it will dump another £4 TRILLION of debt on to the country's balance sheet.

Even if just a tiny percentage of those debts went bad due to recession... the financial burden on each and every one of us would be unbearable...

As far as we can see, the Government will do one of two things, (or even both) to avoid this outcome:

1) Drastically hike up taxes to pay for the hefty debt burden... meaning LESS money in the bank for hardworking Britons like yourself...

2) Or print more money... sending inflation rocketing and sterling into meltdown.

The "freight train" headed
straight for your wealth

The last time we were this close to going bankrupt was 1976...

Back then the Government only warded off an utter collapse of the entire economy by going begging to the International Monetary Fund for an emergency "bailout" loan.

The following years were some of the worst in British economic history. Inflation soared... poverty skyrocketed... and every household in the UK was poorer for years to come.

At most, we're on the brink of repeating one of these scenarios, if not all three.

And it's a freight train headed straight for your wealth... a timebomb that could explode in our face at any moment.

You and your family's standard of living is already squeezed by this recession. And if it hasn't been yet, it could be very soon.

Each day that passes the picture gets worse...

● £154 million gets added to UK debt every 24 hours

● 1,490 are made unemployed...

● And the average house price has haemorrhaged £100 every day since Dec 2007

Breaking point is looming, fast.

Of course you can ignore this warning. If you're happy to put your feet up and see your wealth get eaten away... that's absolutely fine.

But if you ARE concerned about the way things are going... and you DO want to do something to protect yourself - and even potentially PROFIT - from this situation... turn your attention here...

What you can do before the
timebomb goes OFF

Look. We may not be able to avoid the blast... but there IS a way you could turn these events to your advantage.

All it takes is one carefully placed stake in what our analysts call the best investment of the next six years.

You see it's especially designed to make returns in situations just like this.

And right now it's working incredibly well. As markets the world over have been dragged through the wringer, THIS has actually gone UP 12% since it went live on 15 December 2008.

Of course there are no guarantees this performance will continue, after all, past performance is not a reliable indicator of future results. But I'd love to show you exactly how this could work for you in the years ahead.

Because not only are incredible triple digit returns possible with this, there's a way you can GUARANTEE your initial stake. This is a forecast. Forecasts are not a reliable indicator of future performance.



Of course there are conditions that come with that, but if you're a serious long-term investor I promise you NONE of them will be a problem.

In fact, when you have this information for yourself I'm pretty sure you'll be dying to start this up immediately.

Make no mistake... our economy, once a world leader, is rapidly going down the tubes. All our indicators point to it getting pulverised over the coming 12 months... and it'll make this recession longer, deeper and darker than anyone expects...

And this one simple investment is perfectly placed to help you turn these dire times into a financial windfall.

All the details can be in your hands within the next 5 minutes. I'll show you how in a moment - along with the three other economic timebombs that threaten to ambush every unsuspecting investor.

But first, allow me to introduce myself and explain why you should heed these warnings...

How you could protect your wealth - and profit - from global economic shocks

My name is Sarah Lintern. I'm the publisher of The Fleet Street Letter - an independent investment advisory service dedicated to deciphering world trends for a select group of intelligent readers across the UK.

Since we warned our first readers back in 1938 that Chamberlain's appeasement of Hitler would never stop the dictator... we've served our readers through war and peace... hard times and prosperity.

By warning them of the potential consequences, we've protected ordinary people from the impact of serious world crises... and offered ways they could make money by going against majority opinion and crowd hysteria.

Take "Black Monday" when thousands of ordinary British people lost their savings in the stock market crash in October 1987...

Fortunately for our readers, the month before we'd given a warning about high share prices...

"Hold some cash and gold," we said, "we are almost certainly about to see a period of significant correction." On 10th October, we told readers even more plainly, "time to be out!"

Five days later, the FTSE began one of the biggest declines in recorded stock market history falling 21.7% in just two days.

Our predictions have often shocked our readers, but they usually come true

We ourselves were shocked when our warnings of a world oil crisis triggered by Islamic fundamentalism - made 18 months before the attacks on the World Trade Centre - came true on 11 September, 2001.

At the time our Editor-in-Chief William Rees-Mogg, explained that getting access to oil at acceptable prices was the most important issue of national policy for the US.

By early 2003 the US and Britain were securing the oil fields of Iraq. Over the following years we watched as oil doubled and then tripled in value.

Most importantly, we offered ideas and investment strategies to help readers benefit from these events.

Take the Credit Crisis...

You may remember when Gordon Brown stood in front of the press and said no-one could have foreseen the damage reaped by the subprime fallout...


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As outlined in this report, the 12 month outlook for global equity markets as a whole does not look rosy. Across the Atlantic, the fading stimulus from interest rate cuts, along with poor employment figures and wage growth, casts extreme doubt on equity markets making much headway in 2009.

As you've read, we believe that now is the time to act defensively with your money, and hold on for when the time is right to get into cheap growth shares. Another report we'd like to send will tell which companies to buy and crucially, when to buy them.

But the weak prognosis for the general markets makes it even more important to protect yourself against "unknown market events." Whether it's a renewed threat to oil supplies... a global property crash... or a large scale terrorist outrage... the already unstable markets could be hit very hard if something jumps out of nowhere to take investors by surprise.

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Well our readers did... it was something we'd been warning them about for some time.

Years before the papers even used the term "credit crunch" we highlighted the reckless lending between banks. Our chief predicted colossal bail-outs... and massive losses for shareholders:

"A bail-out of the banking system, which the authorities will surely attempt in the event of a debt collapse, does not mean a bail-out of bank holding companies or shareholders...

"Depending upon the political climate and administration at the time the music stops, there might even be a de facto nationalisation of major American banks...

"In a time of crisis, the government may be the only entity large enough to save the vulnerable banks."

True enough, only the US Government was big enough to rescue A.I.G... as was our government for Northern Rock, HBOS, Lloyds, Bradford & Bingley and RBS.

Of course we take pride in the fact we called these events before anyone else.

But do we claim to get every issue right? No. But we DID see the cracks in the global financial system. And we took these trends seriously when most didn't.

In fact, we watch all these trends carefully. We try to anticipate them. We try to understand them. And when we get them right - our readers can do very, very well.

And this is how we approach all our investment research.

Now you have our latest predictions
in your hands...

The Fleet Street Letter believes that four major trends will cause financial havoc in 2009. The first being the deepening of the great financial unwinding and the crippling knock-on effects it poses for Britain.

As the UK's economic situation dramatically worsens over the next year thanks to soaring debt, high unemployment and a huge backslide in consumer spending... we believe the investment we've researched will be crucial if you want to turn the coming events to your advantage.

Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future results.


For example, since this recommendation went live just one month ago we're already over 12.1% up! In the same time frame the FTSE is down 20.2%.

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This is a forecast. Forecasts are not a reliable indicator of future results.


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The consequences of Britain's "Financial D-Day" won't end with a sharp markdown in domestic economic growth.

No. This time things are going GLOBAL.

And this fact alone poses another - bigger - threat to our already battered indices here in the UK.

You see, incredibly, many investors still cling to the hope that growth in countries like China, India and Brazil will deliver returns through a western recession. So says Albert Edwards, Equity Strategist for Société Générale:

"The consensus still touchingly believes that despite a deep economic downturn in developed economies, continued rapid emerging market growth will keep overall world growth resilient."

In other words, the majority of analysts still think these countries have the ability to grow the profits of some UK-listed companies.

BIG mistake...

At last count, China was growing 8% per year. Now that may not strike you as bad news. But consider this... the year before last it grew close to 12%. It's fallen a long way.

According to Forbes Magazine it has further to go: "The economy of the so-called world's factory is now decelerating."

90 days to total City slaughter - and
most people are none the wiser!

China accounts for almost a quarter of global growth. If it stops pulling its weight, it will directly hit the engines of Western corporate growth for companies in nearly every sector in the stock market.

Most stock market pundits don't see this coming. Their forecasts are downbeat, but not nearly enough.

This recession is unprecedented. Virtually nobody alive remembers the devastation caused by the last credit bear market of the 1930s. Investors continue to underestimate what a full-scale credit unwinding really means.

And the over-estimated economic health of China will play a MASSIVE part in bringing them crashing down to earth with potentially devastating consequences.

Investors got a shock last year. But this realisation will extinguish any remaining hope the diehards have in stocks. They will put their hands up and sell.

And it could send the FTSE into freefall, right down to 3,000.

Of course it's impossible to say exactly when that might happen. But it could be as soon as 16th April 2009 - when China will likely announce its quarterly growth figures.

But here's the thing... our experts believe this presents a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for you, if you're willing to think "outside the box"...

These 3 grossly underpriced stocks could make you tremendous returns in the years ahead

As bad as all this sounds, there is a HUGE silver lining to all this...

Our analysts believe it's around this time - what insiders call the "capitulation point" - shares will truly "bottom" out... where everyone who wants out, has sold... when the last bull has lost any hope in the stock market.

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Make no mistake... these shares are down with the rest of them. And right now they are trading at ridiculously low prices.

But it's this "flight to cash" that has given clear-headed medium to long-term investors the best buying conditions we'll ever see in our lifetime!

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Think about it... the Credit Crunch has been caused and felt hardest by the financial sector. Asset managers and hedge funds have been forced to sell their positions. When they return, what stock will they be buying?

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Now of course there may be more volatility to come in the market. But if you can stomach a bit of risk... we believe these companies will be instrumental in leading the recovery after the stock market bottoms in 2009. And if things shape up as we predict they could make you a whole lot of money over the long-term.

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TIMEBOMB #3: What you MUST do before the pound is crushed!

"Sterling isn't just going to lose value... It's going to NOSEDIVE".

That was our warning in a special Fleet Street Letter report issued in February 2008.

Not many people listened...

The pound had just reached an eye-popping $2.11 - a 26-year high. But few realised how vulnerable a position we were really in. Even fewer saw where we were headed.

What's happened since?

Sterling's dropped over 30% - to its lowest point in 6 years. It's hit a new all time low against the Euro.

Now it's fallen off a cliff.

"Sharpest drop for Sterling since 1931"
City AM headline, 19th December 2008



Buy and hold Gold to defend yourself against the falling pound and a failing economy

The Fleet Street Letter's view on gold is well known. Gold is a safe haven asset in times of international tension. It's an asset that has a low correlation with stock markets, and so adds valuable diversity to your portfolio. But gold is also a hedge against inflation and currency debasement - making it an essential hold for British investors in 2009, as the pound devalues against most other currencies.

We first recommended buying gold to our readers nearly 10 years ago (we showed them exactly how to do it). Why? Because Gordon Brown had announced he was going to do the exact opposite!

In July 1999, Gordon Brown told the world he was going to sell 415 tons of Britain's gold reserves... a staggering 58% of the nation's entire stock. "Those reserves," we told our readers, "provide the ultimate defence against a run on the pound". But Mr Brown didn't care. In fact, he cost the British taxpayer at least £400 million, as his foolish announcement sent the price of gold crashing 10% in a matter of weeks - down to a two-decade low. But since then, the value of gold has gone up more than 200%.

What of the future? Our experts believe holding a portion of gold will be vital in the years ahead.

A falling dollar... a failing pound... and the continuing geopolitical instability will all serve to boost the price of gold even further this year.

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"Sterling plunged again yesterday, making its annual fall the largest since the height of the Great Depression in 1931, when the pound was forced off the gold standard."

...so led the front page of City AM on 19th December.

This one-day slump outweighed the 1992 collapse, when the pound was forced out of the ERM... as well as the near bankruptcy of the 1976 crisis, when the UK had to seek emergency funding from the International Monetary Fund.

But while that sounds like a big deal... the truth is, it's just the beginning of a sustained collapse of our currency against most others.

Three reasons why the Sterling will get
HAMMERED in 2009

#1. As recession bites more and more traders will dump the pound for the euro and the dollar...

The credit crunch has turned the currency market on its head. As more investment firms go under the less players there are in the market.

Bottom line: transactions have dramatically decreased compared to 2007.

This lack of liquidity has made sterling much more volatile. And with investors and traders riding millions on each decimal point movement... managing their risk is near impossible. The result? Those still in the market will flee the pound to more liquid "safe haven" currencies.

The more traders run... the lower the pound will fall... and the weaker it will remain.

Just look what happened to the Icelandic Krona! Iceland's banking and liquidity crisis pushed the krona down 58% in the last 12 months. Sterling is down 26% and counting.

#2. Labour's spending binge will push the pound further down the doldrums!

Over-bloated public sector employment is becoming a significant drag on our already faltering economy. Public sector jobs have increased by a staggering rate since 1997... miles faster than jobs in the private sector.

Now private sector firms are set for a year-long bloodbath sending unemployment rocketing.

Meanwhile, Governments tax revenues will be hit - HARD. They'll be forced to spend more money on key services right at a time when the Treasury has LESS money coming in through the door

As far as we can see, Alistair Darling faces three options: increase taxes to pay for the programmes; cut back spending; or further increase Government borrowing when the Exchequer's shortfall already tops £400 billion.

Each of these options will knock UK growth for six over the coming year. It spells more bad news for the economy... and DISASTER for the pound.

"I would urge you to sell any sterling you might have... It's finished. I hate to say it, but I would not put any money in the UK."

Jim Rogers
World Renowned Investment Guru


#3. Falling interest rates have taken away sterling's only saving grace.

Money follows the highest yield. It's as simple as that.

And right now, for the first time since its inception... the EU has a higher interest rate than Britain.

The wider the difference between UK and Eurozone
rates, the more pressure there will be on the pound to fall.

The question is... what should YOU be doing about it?

The "Jigoro Strategy": How to protect yourself from the death of the pound - and get PAID for it too!

Let me explain.

All his life the Japanese martial artist, Jigoro Kano, had been trying to beat his master in a duel. After 40 years he finally did it. How?

By learning how to use his opponent's attacking momentum against him to win the battle.

We've been using the very same principle in a very special investment that goes up when the pound's momentum is going down.

Most ordinary investors don't even know this exists!

Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future results.


But Fleet Street Letter readers do... they've already been told about this and they are already making money as sterling crashes.

What IS this investment?

It's a very special play denominated in euros.

See, right now, the facts tell us that the euro has two key advantages over sterling:

1) The first is in trade...

When France, Spain or any of the Eurozone countries buy and sell goods with each other, no other currencies enter the equation.

This makes it much LESS likely they'll run up a huge trade deficit.

2) The other is that the European Central Bank is TRULY independent...

They don't have to answer to a single national government.

By not having to explain itself in detail, they can get on with the job of fighting inflation.

This is why we believe the long-term prospects for the euro look attractive. It's coming of age as a truly global currency.

The European Central Bank has taken a firmer line on its currency than either the US Fed or the Bank of England. And the economic size of the Eurozone means, in time, the euro could trump the dollar as the world's reserve currency - something the pound will never be again.


We've prepared a special investment report that deals with this exact issue. This, along with all the other reports I've talked about in this letter, is yours free.

All I ask is that you review The Fleet Street Letter, with absolutely no obligation to subscribe, for three months.

TIMEBOMB #4: Steer clear of the housing market before it gets cut in half - and place a small portion of your capital in THIS instead...

We expect house prices to halve and take nigh on a decade doing it.

I don't say this to scare you. I'm deadly serious. From peak to bottom UK residential and commercial property could easily fall an eyewatering 50% before they even begin to recover.

Of course politicians, the media and house sellers like to talk down any idea that this could be on the cards. Why? Because that's what people want to hear! When people's houses are worth more they feel richer... they're more likely to spend their money... and vote the "right way" in the polls.

According to one of the UK's leading estate agencies, Savills, house prices in the UK are set to recover and RISE by 2010 ... and the National Housing Federation agrees, saying the average house price will reach £274,700 over the next five years.

But be warned. We're CONVINCED they are wrong!

The mainstream always love to be optimistic about house prices.

But this has happened before...

"House prices to recover next year," reported The Times on 17 November, 1989... But it took another 7 years for UK property to reach rock-bottom.

Interest rates were cut in each and every one of those years and it didn't make the blindest bit of difference. By 1996 the average home had lost 30% of it value!

Consumer spending went into tailspin... home repossessions and personal bankruptcies rocketed...

The same thing is happening again. Except this time we have a banking sector in meltdown... buy-to-let investors that have exacerbated the bubble... and a credit crunch thrown in the mix as well!


Worried about your mortgage? Thinking of upsizing? Or even getting on the ladder?

Don't do a thing until you read this...

If you already own a house, you're happy there and you're comfortable with your mortgage debt, do nothing. If you're looking to sell, wait for a recovery or invest elsewhere. Until then, enjoy your home.

But if you're thinking about getting onto the ladder, or of upsizing, then I'd urge you to think again.

According to our colleages at MoneyWeek...

"The average price of a detached house in the UK is now £338.000. The average price of all property is now £219,000.

"If we're right, and property comes down by 50%, people who buy the average detached house now could see £169,000 wiped off their assets.

"Plus you'll be paying higher and higher mortgage fees to cover the original cost."

Our advice couldn't be clearer: If you absolutely MUST buy a house to live in, then make sure you have a decent deposit and a sensible mortgage. One you can afford.

But if you don't really need to buy, then don't! Hold on. You'll save money in the short-term. You'll avoid paying more than your house is worth. And you'll be positioned to snap up a bargain when house prices come further crashing down.


Prices have already plummeted 17% in the last 12 months. But if we're correct - and we absolutley believe we are - you could STILL be looking at another 35% being wiped off the average home over the coming years.

But you know what? This could be great news if you have a small portion of capital to put to work on the back of this deadly trend.

Let me explain...


When house prices drop everyone instinctively tightens their belts. It doesn't matter how those in charge like to spin it. Whether you're an individual or a huge corporation... when times get tough you do everything you can to save and insulate the wealth you have.

And right now EVEYONE is hoarding their cash.

Unfortunately, it's having a disatrous effect on UK businesses.

Ernst & Young recently reported 449 profit warnings from UK companies during 2008. That's the highest figure in eight years.

Take one look at the high street and you'll see the evidence. Woolworths was the most recent victim. In 2009 you can expect this to happen again and again... thousands of firms will go down the pan.


Because although you can't stop the western downturn snowballing into a China-led global recession... decide the direction of the stock market... or know how low house prices will sink...

You CAN take steps to protect yourself, your wealth and your family from these events.


I just want you to see for yourself how important our opinions and advice could be over the coming months as Britain faces the most economically critical era in our history.


THEY go on to tell you how to avoid the coming crash / crashes!!!!
Whatever? but the key here is I have made some cash out of their past predictions...

But this time....I am in limbo land!


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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Wright
    In view of the current global economic collapse, that sales pitch seems
    strangely illogical and self-defeating.
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    • Profile picture of the author highhopes
      Originally Posted by Mike Wright View Post

      In view of the current global economic collapse, that sales pitch seems
      strangely illogical and self-defeating.
      I am not selling something Mike....I am observing something!
      I have got into the habit over the years of testing their predictions....and investing a little of my time / money.

      No I am not connected with them at all.
      Sometimes they have been wrong, but not very often.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Wow - was that spam or just someone's alarm clock ringing a bit late?

    I am just shocked. You mean the economy is failing? Um...when the hell did that happen? :rolleyes::rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author highhopes
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Wow - was that spam or just someone's alarm clock ringing a bit late?

      I am just shocked. You mean the economy is failing? Um...when the hell did that happen? :rolleyes::rolleyes:
      I like your humour Sal, just to remind you.........
      Alan Greenspan that man from the USA started most of it according to a lot of pundits!

      Alan Greenspan has come back from the tomb of history to correct the record. He did not make any mistakes in his eighteen-year tenure as Federal Reserve chairman. He did not endorse the regressive Bush tax cuts of 2001 that pumped up the federal deficits and aggravated inequalities. He did not cause the housing bubble that is now in collapse. He did not ignore the stock market bubble that subsequently melted away and cost investors $6 trillion. He did not say the Iraq War is "largely about oil."
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      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Wow - was that spam or just someone's alarm clock ringing a bit late?

      I am just shocked. You mean the economy is failing? Um...when the hell did that happen? :rolleyes::rolleyes:
      What prudish, are you. You are supposed to be to conspiracy nut here, and this is your best comment.

      Now I see why you fall for the alien abortions, and brain control device patents. You can't be serious.



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        Originally Posted by Magic Johnson View Post

        What prudish, are you. You are supposed to be to conspiracy nut here, and this is your best comment.

        Now I see why you fall for the alien abortions, and brain control device patents. You can't be serious.



        :rolleyes:
        Wait a minute!
        Yes that could be the reason for this world crisis. Are we being monitored by an intelligent lifeforce? Our life spans are insignificant, generation after generation come and go.
        100 years ago, horse and cart technology slowly gave way to this very complicated world.
        Are we being watched?????
        Scoop: Leading Surgeon Removes Suspected Alien Implants
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    To be fair, The Fleet Street Letter is quite a respected pundit.

    So they are saying the other shoe is likely to drop around April? Bugger it all to hell, I hoped for more time.

    Really hope they are wrong.

    Look on the bright side Sal....I figure when the dominoes start collapsing the US dollar will be one of the last to topple. Admittedly the time between first to last - not counting Iceland - is only likely to be a matter of months but...

    When you start seeing the rest of us going down, that's the time to get prepped and ready because it'll be heading to your side of The Pond very soon.

    Oh I do hope they are wrong with this one.
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    • Profile picture of the author highhopes
      The big worry is for savers as well this time...I personally have profited from their predictions, precious metals and other investments etc.
      But at the moment the future seems bleak in deed......Who will one trust?

      We have not seen the TRUE effects of the GLOBAL financial crisis yet!
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      • Profile picture of the author ladnot
        Fleet Street Letter and CNN (CONSTANT NEGATIVE NEWS) are both well respected. Why don't they report more good things that happen? The public gets fed negative statistics day after day.

        We all know that the economy is shaky right now. Election years usually are unstable. We didn't get in this shape overnight, so we surely won't all wake up tomorrow, snuggly tucked under a blanket of money. I WISH !!!

        Just as "you are what you eat," what you hear repeatedly, you will start to believe and live accordingly. Certainly keep abreast of economic surroundings, but let's not all go on a strict diet of negativity.

        Let's keep our ears, eyes, hearts and minds open for the good in life.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Wright
          The slow-motion trainwreck, mentioned in these forums
          quite a long while ago, is barely halfway through yet imho.

          I doubt that many Brits who are old enough to recall
          similar previous events, will rush out on a spendathon
          to save the global economy for the benefit of the banks ...spit!!!
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          Originally Posted by ladnot View Post

          Fleet Street Letter and CNN (CONSTANT NEGATIVE NEWS) are both well respected. Why don't they report more good things that happen? The public gets fed negative statistics day after day.

          We all know that the economy is shaky right now. Election years usually are unstable. We didn't get in this shape overnight, so we surely won't all wake up tomorrow, snuggly tucked under a blanket of money. I WISH !!!

          Just as "you are what you eat," what you hear repeatedly, you will start to believe and live accordingly. Certainly keep abreast of economic surroundings, but let's not all go on a strict diet of negativity.

          Let's keep our ears, eyes, hearts and minds open for the good in life.
          True it is negative...only in the sense we are human and we dont like bad news. Neverthe less, i welcome information coming from a group who are steadfastly studying the financial climate and not afraid to buck the trend and resist giving false news to the masses...TICKLING THEIR EARS with information they want to hear.

          It`s all about how we deal with the present climate, some of us will have prepared for it, others wont have. In any event it will get worse.
          If the total collapse of the financial world markets occur then we are all going to experience very hard times( except the super rich)

          This website stuff should only be a feature, not THE feature of making money in my estimation...I have property, savings, a business to earn as I play..But even that does`nt guarantee a secure future, we try to minimise the effects of the bad times, and be prepared for them.

          I like your website Indiana...lots of stuff there to bite on.
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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            People will always need products and services no matter what the economic conditions may be. As marketers, adapt to the changing climate and you will prosper. Business is actually getting better than ever before in my niches. Just a matter of perspective.
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              The above link has a huge list of links and pdf files for all phases of survival just look at what is there to download or browse through.
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            • Profile picture of the author Phnx
              Originally Posted by myob View Post

              People will always need products and services no matter what the economic conditions may be. As marketers, adapt to the changing climate and you will prosper. Business is actually getting better than ever before in my niches. Just a matter of perspective.
              Now what's that saying about pride coming before a fall? :rolleyes:

              No, people don't always need products and services. It depends what they are. At the moment people will be flocking to the net to try and earn some money, but as their utility and food bills start rocketing even those who are currently 'comfortably off' are going to make cutbacks. Like their TV packages - already happening over here as more people dump the subscriptions and opt for 'free to air'. Then they'll dump the internet because it isn't actually essential for most people - paying rent/mortgage, heating and food bills become more important. ISPs go to the wall and there are fewer customers online or off.

              We aren't immune, it'll just take longer to effect us.

              Mike Wright pointed out that those of us old enough to remember the last time things were looking this dire, will soon not be spending anything unless we have to. In the 70's in Britain we had the electricity turned off for hours a day, usually early evening, and had to manage with candles, and people were put on a 3 day working week (and of course they only got paid for 3 days). I was 16 at the time and it sucked. Must have been hell for my parents though. It'll be much worse this time because everything is computerised and we need more electricity. We had manufacturing industries and the ability to feed our populations back then. Now everything is outsourced and we are a 'service' country. Gordon Brown sold our gold reserves dirt cheap so when Sterling becomes worthless we haven't enough stocks to buy in what we no longer produce - assuming it is actually available to buy.

              There is gonna be a bloodbath by the end of the year, and no amount of Pollyana optimism will make it go away. On the contrary, if you don't make preparations then YOU will become a burden on those who do. You can't eat your houses or stock certificates Paul, and you will be dependant on the generosity of those who have stocked up in the event that supply routes get disrupted (assuming they haven't become callous enough to ignore your hunger).

              This is already happening. Never before in history have retail goods been stuck in ports unable to get to their destination.

              Not even during The Great Depression.

              Prepare FIRST and then get all laidback about events. Because even those determined to be fearless and ride out the storm, will find it exceptionally difficult if the cupboard is bare, especially if they have dependants.

              The World is probably going to look a lot different this time next year.
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      Alan Greenspan that man from the USA started most of it according to a lot of pundits!
      I listened to a portion of Greenspan's comments on a news show yesterday - he gives true meaning to the word "revisionist". He can rewrite his history with a straight face - or maybe that's the only face he has....

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    I think this guy has nailed it, and we look as if we are approaching Phase 2:

    Full-Spectrum Global Financial Domination

    Shock and Awe in Economic Warfare

    By STEPHEN MARTIN
    Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.
    -- Hermann Goering
    In the Economic War currently being waged, the first phase of the telling of such tale of attack, illustrated vividly by image, and with the objective of further building war chest, is over. We have seen the collapse of Lehman Brothers as sacrificial wolf, heard further sabres being rattled in form of AIG, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, and bailout, or rescue gone through on the basis of fear and plunging markets. The public coffers have been prised opened further as to plan.

    Now the second phase of Economic Blitzkrieg is to begin, and the bad news is that as in total war, the citizen is no more than mere fodder to bomb. The firebombing of Dresden still stands as the worst atrocity of such total war. In Economic War, collateral damage; whether through default on mortgage, wipe out of pension or life savings, loss of livelihood, homelessness - all just battlefield casualty.

    This is one big, bold, beast of a high risk strategy towards full spectrum Global Financial dominance no less, and as must have been years in the planning. Even as strategies of war such as scorched earth and the surprise of Blitzkrieg go, it has callousness almost unimaginable in the misery and sufferance it is willing to inflict, including on it's own people, given that it's origins are in America - although it has to be pointed out that the true free marketer as Economic warrior, financial terrorist and beast is without country; loyal only to the maximisation of profit as expression of greed and quench of power lust - and as heartless a whore as can be found in the deepest of tragedy.

    Economic Warfare Shock and Awe works like this:

    First of all you create a shocking financial poison. Then you create the environment necessary for that poison to circulate in the enemy economy, ideally in a situation where they do not know they've even swallowed it in quantity- until it is too late. Iceland for example. Many other Economies are also on the brink of being such 'suckers going down'. Iceland just the first - but hey, every little economy helps when the target is Global Financial Domination.

    Let's examine the brewing of this financial poison, before we turn attention towards the antidote. Just like watching in horror the Stukas dive bombing to terrifying wailing of siren - before the storm troopers are sent in to establish control as achievement of objective in Blitzkrieg manoeuvre. The strategy: first create and administer the shocking financial poison -and then have antidote conveniently to hand, offered with strings attached.

    It has to be said that the scale of this particular poisoning makes the Borgias look like little more than mere dilettantes.

    Trouble with the Borgias was no ambition.

    The shocking financial poison. Stand back in awe. Known by many names, but let's stick with the most popular. The collateralised debt obligation, or CDO. In order to produce such poison, you require a pump. A special pump fuelled by greed - commission mainly, but also in form of release of equity - by the greed or need of the dupe - and there are lots of dupes out there, as I can personally testify, alas. So what you do is you use this pump on the market, after priming, and inflate the value of as much Collateral as you can (that's the Real Estate, or the homes citizens have need to live within) and then stand back and watch as greed leads to the inevitable cycle of events. At each little stage in the cycle, more commission is taken out, more bonuses taken until what you have left, the distillate as it were, is a highly toxic pile of worthless paper on some poor sucker's balance sheet as a dump, where it masquerades as current 'asset', liberating noxious fumes. Has something died in the cellar? Get enough of this toxic crap circulating and dumped, and you can bring down whole economies.

    There are other financial poisons in the market, including the original 'fiat currency', but as these are of lesser toxicity, more gradual in action, also with different antidote, equally shocking in the administration. Not go into detail, other than to mention that the fiat currency, for example, can be useful in the accumulation of tangible assets - but money from the public coffers was still required in this instance.

    Remember, this is Global in aspiration.

    Phase 2 of the implementation of Shock and Awe Economic warfare in the Master Plan involves the 'assisted revival' of the poisoned economies. The vehicle for delivery of the antidote, not the real villain, mind you, merely the accomplice, is the 'International Monetary Fund' stepping forth with bold new initiative. It's springboard: the Economic War Chest, coffers overflowing. The objective being a controlling piece of the action, effectively control over banking and finance in the 'assisted' economies. No such thing as a free lunch, remember., especially when the IMF are involved - just ask any Chilean or indeed, Brazilian.

    Who needs guns and bullets, when you have these financial storm troopers in the arsenal and such a huge war chest?

    The term 'high risk' was given earlier.

    In the shakedown stage; Phase 1 and even considerably well into Phase 2, victim economies undoubtedly suffer. Contraction in productivity, mass unemployment, paralysis of financial institutions, a lot of big manufacturing companies may even go down. They can be rebuilt, suitably re- financed. The secret, and indeed the risk, of this Master Plan is the acceptance of the assisting financial package as antidote, by those still in shock and awe. This requires a global channel to prevail, which will have allowed the free flow both of poison and of antidote. Should the channel be shut down, then plan b has to be adopted as back up. This is a regrouping and consolidation in base economy, using economic war chest to further control - in rebuilding the American Economy, taking advantage of shock and awe as undoubtedly present therein. Money can be loosened up again - from that war chest. America can be rebuilt, to slightly different image, and with more singular focus.

    Back up plan c, in the highly unlikely event that citizens get wise to what is going on, and start bleating about the constitution and Democracy, doesn't bear thinking about, especially if the global channel is shut down. Suffice it to say, Posse Comitatus as distant a memory as free press.

    But hey, you've got to speculate to accumulate, right? And when it comes to detailed speculation and exacting accumulation on such a scale, who else has the experience - and now the 'reserves' necessary?

    Thus proposed the Master Plan of Shock and Awe in Economic Warfare, as currently in implementation, in progress of moving towards Phase 2.

    Full Spectrum Global Financial Domination, here we go. Don't worry all you poisoned economies out there. The antidote is on the way.

    Is such interpretation no more than Paranoia born of desperate questioning in response to the current Economic chaos going on around the world?

    Maybe the hundreds of Economists not even consulted over the largest bailout in history have an answer.

    In any event, God help us.

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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Never underestimate the power of the entrepreneurial spirit. More and more people are coming online and starting their businesses. I have 16-18 year old affiliates making six figure incomes, and they are training laid-off workers how to start their own successful businesses online.

      I am always titillated about all of this crap about an impending economic collapse that keeps popping up on a forum such as this. There is much more wealth around than most of these little minds of disaster can even imagine. True, there are many suffering economically and losing their jobs, savings and homes. I deal with those stories everyday.

      But when we get those hopeless souls going again in a new direction, they see there is great opportunity around us. It's not ignorance of reality, but rather adapting to the changing economic conditions.

      I may get flogged for this by certain small-minded losers, but I am still investing as much as possible into the stock market and real estate. This is not new stuff happening; it has happened several times before, and those who saw opportunity in downturns became very wealthy indeed.

      Winners make money, whiners make excuses. You are surrounded by simple, obvious solutions that can dramatically increase your income, power, influence and success. The problem is, you just don't see them.
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        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        This is not new stuff happening; it has happened several times before, and those who saw opportunity in downturns became very wealthy indeed.
        But it IS new Paul, that's why economists say it is "unprecedented". People simply aren't grasping that. This is not, by any definition, an 'ordinary' recession - or even depression. I'd agree with you otherwise.

        By the time we get out of this one the world will be a very different place, and you may be long gone before you see a profit - assuming you still have your assets intact.

        **"The global economy is decelerating at the fastest pace on record. 40 percent of global wealth has been wiped out.

        The banking system is insolvent, unemployment is soaring, tax revenues are falling, the markets are in shock, housing is crashing, deficits are soaring, and consumer confidence is at its lowest point in history. This is no time to cling to half-baked ideology. The global economy is undergoing a massive system-wide contraction which could spin out of control and plunge us into another world war. Political leaders need to grasp the urgency of the moment and keep the vehicle from careening into the ditch."****

        Mike Whitney: The Global Ditch

        I wish you luck with your stocks but you'd be wise to start stocking food supplies just in case your optimism doesn't pan out. My brother is doing exactly as you are, but I hope I'm wearing him down by constantly sending him emails to "buy gold!", "stock food!" - at least his wife tells me he's been getting a few extra cans in. :rolleyes:
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          Diversification of assets is certainly wise counsel in any economic condition. I advised my partners and affiliates to invest in gold as long as over 6 years ago. The ones who did (including myself) are now sitting on fortunes as gold recently topped $1,000/oz. I am now selling out much of the gold and pouring it into stocks and real estate because these prices are at their lowest levels in over 6 years.

          Food has never been a problem with some of the largest farms feeding the country are right here in California. We are quite well fed, thank you very much. My business is enjoying a boom as more unemployed and underemployed people are seeking income from their own home-based business.

          Thank you for your concern for my welfare, Phnx, and for your desperate plea to get me ready for the coming doom. But actually I am debt-free and living the life of a capitalistic pig, with all the decadent accoutrements afforded by such precipitancy in seizing opportunities. This economic condition is another occasion to become even more of a rich ******* on the backs of the poor and suffering masses who are barely able to lift their bony fingers to grasp the meager crumbs falling from the tables of me and my boys. We welcome all who are wanting to join us and feast at the table of the masters. Join me, and I will show how you too can profit from doom and gloom.


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          Originally Posted by Phnx View Post

          But it IS new Paul, that's why economists say it is "unprecedented". People simply aren't grasping that. This is not, by any definition, an 'ordinary' recession - or even depression. I'd agree with you otherwise.

          By the time we get out of this one the world will be a very different place, and you may be long gone before you see a profit - assuming you still have your assets intact.

          **"The global economy is decelerating at the fastest pace on record. 40 percent of global wealth has been wiped out.

          The banking system is insolvent, unemployment is soaring, tax revenues are falling, the markets are in shock, housing is crashing, deficits are soaring, and consumer confidence is at its lowest point in history. This is no time to cling to half-baked ideology. The global economy is undergoing a massive system-wide contraction which could spin out of control and plunge us into another world war. Political leaders need to grasp the urgency of the moment and keep the vehicle from careening into the ditch."****

          Mike Whitney: The Global Ditch

          I wish you luck with your stocks but you'd be wise to start stocking food supplies just in case your optimism doesn't pan out. My brother is doing exactly as you are, but I hope I'm wearing him down by constantly sending him emails to "buy gold!", "stock food!" - at least his wife tells me he's been getting a few extra cans in. :rolleyes:
          I agree Lee

          We have had tectonic shifts in geopolitics and geo-economics.
          Capitalism could no more survive that than Communism. The
          new paradigm which presents itself is a sensible blend of
          Capitalism and Socialism. There will not be many "free lunches"
          for "Masters of the Universe" in the future. We are entering a
          new era of prudence, accountability (to citizens) and austerity.

          If all the continuing fallout is not bad enough, there is an even
          bigger spectre facing everyone in the coming decades. This
          was brought home to me last night watching a program on TV
          BBC2 about farming. I had not realised just how greatly farming
          and food production depends on fossil fuels for heating, fertiliser,
          transportation and farm machinery ... plus all the processing
          and packaging. The farming industry is the third largest consumer
          of fossil fuels and related products in the world. Its not about
          Climate Change or population. Its about the fact that intensive
          farming methods have basically killed the soil so that crops can
          not be grown without large additions of fossil fuel-derived fertilisers.

          The general thrust of the program was that farming needs to
          revert to some sustainable/organic basis before the oil runs
          out ... or the human race could be up starvation creek.

          You might wish to read up on this American site
          Post Carbon Institute | Reduce Consumption, Produce Locally.
          The head guy talks a lot of sense.
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            Originally Posted by Mike Wright View Post

            I agree Lee

            We have had tectonic shifts in geopolitics and geo-economics.
            Capitalism could no more survive that than Communism. The
            new paradigm which presents itself is a sensible blend of
            Capitalism and Socialism. There will not be many "free lunches"
            for "Masters of the Universe" in the future. We are entering a
            new era of prudence, accountability (to citizens) and austerity.

            If all the continuing fallout is not bad enough, there is an even
            bigger spectre facing everyone in the coming decades. This
            was brought home to me last night watching a program on TV
            BBC2 about farming. I had not realised just how greatly farming
            and food production depends on fossil fuels for heating, fertiliser,
            transportation and farm machinery ... plus all the processing
            and packaging. The farming industry is the third largest consumer
            of fossil fuels and related products in the world. Its not about
            Climate Change or population. Its about the fact that intensive
            farming methods have basically killed the soil so that crops can
            not be grown without large additions of fossil fuel-derived fertilisers.

            The general thrust of the program was that farming needs to
            revert to some sustainable/organic basis before the oil runs
            out ... or the human race could be up starvation creek.

            You might wish to read up on this American site
            Post Carbon Institute | Reduce Consumption, Produce Locally.
            The head guy talks a lot of sense.
            Interesting, the fleet street group I listen intently to brought home the peak oil subject in 2004. Dr Marion king Hubbert, predicted oil would peak about 1970 in the USA back in the mid fifties... Look around you as you sit at your computer, everything just about in your room is a bi-product of oil, including the keys you tap on your laptop!!

            The Saudis are pumping millions of gallons of sea waqter to pump up the pressure in the oil wells. Does that make a statement?
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            Originally Posted by Mike Wright View Post

            We have had tectonic shifts in geopolitics and geo-economics. Capitalism could no more survive that than Communism. The new paradigm which presents itself is a sensible blend of Capitalism and Socialism. There will not be many "free lunches" for "Masters of the Universe" in the future. We are entering a new era of prudence, accountability (to citizens) and austerity."
            One would hope Mike. At the moment though it seems as if everything is going to their declared plan.They are playing for big stakes and the meltdown is totally within their plans where they can then generously bring 'order out of chaos'. I thought they might use it as a means to get us in the Euro but I'm thinking they might bypass that altogether and go straight for a World Currency (which was the ultimate aim).

            However, I think things might possibly be getting a little out of their control....I heard somewhere that the IMF, an important cog in their ability to do this to us all, is itself running out of money and is desperately floating bonds. They've been drip drip dripping phrases like "global solutions", and "global problem", which conditions us to believe that the only solution is Global. We will then be more amenable when they tell us we have to have a global currency. They hope.

            Indy's info backs up the link above (Global Ditch) which said Eastern Europe is the next to fall, but what I find significant is that is said if it did it would be the end of the European Union. Now, unless they are going straight for World Government which I doubt as it's too soon, I can't see that collapse being in their plans. The EU is a central plank of their NWO, and the proposed North American Union, Asian Union, and current African Union are the 4 pillars. If the EU goes down people will take the opportunity to stay out especially with all the corruption that is becoming evident....Madoff, Sir Allen Stanford....info coming out on massive corruption amongst US officials in Iraq...Patrick Cockburn: the Greatest Fraud in US History? ....and of course the EU is riddled with corruption and what the Americans call 'graft'. Gonna be a hell of a job putting Humpty together again. One hopes

            If all the continuing fallout is not bad enough, there is an even bigger spectre facing everyone in the coming decades. This was brought home to me last night watching a program on TV BBC2 about farming. I had not realised just how greatly farming and food production depends on fossil fuels for heating, fertiliser, transportation and farm machinery ... plus all the processing and packaging. The farming industry is the third largest consumer of fossil fuels and related products in the world. Its not about Climate Change or population.
            The Globalists will either win and use this chaos to instill their totalitarian system and cement their control, or we get completely out of their clutches and ditch globalisation and it's attendant intensive farming methods altogether. (There is a most unlikely 'beacon of hope' for a meld between Capitalism and Socialism - almost the perfect system IMO, which I'll get to in a minute. You'll appreciate the delicious irony when you see who it is.)

            Their last throw of the dice I think, will be trying for WW3. That's always worked for them before, and of course is very profitable. I think they are hoping they can get the Middle East to flare up but that appears to be backfiring on them. Jews are asking to have their families names removed from the Holocaust Memorial Wall in Jerusalem - if that snowballs things could get really interesting. Michael Neumann and Osha Neumann: Remove Our Grandmother's Name from the Wall at Yad Vashem

            Its about the fact that intensive farming methods have basically killed the soil so that crops can not be grown without large additions of fossil fuel-derived fertilisers.
            Yes!!! It is that which kills the land and causes desertification NOT overpopulation. Change the system and the problem is removed. A bit like many countries in Latin America who have severe shortages of water and many diseases are arising because of it. Again this is used to demonstrate that we are 'over carrying' and people need to be culled. A closer look reveals Western Conglomerates have bought the water rights and have hiked the prices beyond what the indigenous people can afford. Then you find companies like Coca-Cola sucking up vast amounts for their canning factories. Remove Coca-Cola and others and they have their water back. Put the ownership of water back with the State - or City - and charge a price people can afford and the problem is removed.

            I'm actually surprised they let the atmospheric water generators get on the market as they'll help people escape the clutches of corporatism as well as help the environment. Usually the patents get bought out and then they get sat on.

            All those destroyed acres from intensive farming of cattle - well those farmers are not benefiting, it's just a cash crop which they are forced to do for export. Most goes to the American market. Eat locally produced meat and again, problem solved. Those cultures don't eat as much meat as the West so they can grow their own crops once the soil has regenerated. Some land might take years to become fertile again, but they could use hydroponics/aeroponics to take up the slack. Places like Ethiopia have 95% ability to sustain themselves if the Western Robber Barrons got out the way. Ditto Bangladesh and others.

            The depopulation agenda is inherently racist though those who are advocates are often not. They follow it because it's been dripped in the media on a repetitive basis and followed with something emotive to give it power. Then they link to images of the Third World. Vested interests and 'true believers' have been writing books and making documentaries for years to condition us. And it's a lie, and has been proven to be so, scientifically and mathematically. It seems so self-evident to those who have 'accepted' the conditioning that nobody bothers examining it critically anymore. However like C02 as the causes of climate change, when a hard look is taken the 'evidence' is not quite as it appears.

            If TPTB were really worried they'd talk about America having to bite the bullet - 1 American uses the resources of 25 Bangladeshi. They are 4% of the worlds population yet use 25% of resources. Logically America needs to go, not the Third World if there truly were an overcarrying problem and not just the 'system' at fault. On the surface, it appears as if TPTB are becoming 'green' but the corporations are already taking over the biofuel industry - and that was likely down to their encouragement that it got started in the first place. Gave them a great excuse to go where they couldn't before and they are turning the world into a giant plantation.

            Look at those who 'advise' at the helm of the WWF - criminals, corporatists, oil barrons etc. And of course eugenicists. Does anyone seriously think these guys care anything for the environment? By manipulating our emotions they have managed to take over vast swathes of the world which contain massive resources - under the guise of National Parks.

            As always with these guys, they twist reality to suit themselves. Using technology to solve the problems merely keeps the control with the corporate system. This is how they do it by the way....remember Edward L. Bernays? The Truth Seeker - The Doors of Perception and the Language of Spin Fluoride, Vaccines, Politics, these guys can spin anything and make it 'true'.

            Every cherished belief we have needs to be held up to the light because it's likely to be an outright lie or at best, a distortion of the truth. Our beliefs are formed for us via emotional manipulation, and we have been molded to perceive the world the way it suits a certain group of people. Smash the TV!

            The beautiful thing is, once the system is changed EVERYTHING they have besmirched falls with it. Scientific direction changes, medical science gets out from under the cartel of big business, Codex Alimentarius gone, business ethics change, 'education' is no longer a means to stifle the mind and we develop as we could have done before evil men hijacked the world for their benefit.

            We stay with the current system then we'll have a living hell for our descendants, and there won't be many of them - just enough to keep the plantation going, and the pretence we are green, while the corporatists retain control.

            There is ONE country in all the world that has proven globalisation is an un-needed crock of garbage. One country that will be okay if the food chain gets disrupted. It is they who may yet prove the death knell to Capitalism as it's currently practiced. Capitalism as most of us think of it is really the surface gloss, the carrot to keep people in agreement. The ability to make our own way in the world and earn what we wish, yay! A deeper look, reveals yet another lie. Real capitalism - or at least that which has been practiced - survives by exploiting others, and the planet, in a parasitic fashion. That can't be sustained - not without getting rid of most of us. But that surface version - the best of capitalism - along with the best of socialism (not this dictatorial garbage that passes for it) is the future. It's very close to 'Common Law' (and how curious that this is also coming to the fore lately). It is still the true law of the land in most Western Countries. Your rights end where anothers begin. Exploitation cannot occur in such a setting.

            The one country that has sussed it, and from whom we'll take our lead is the one ostracised by much of the world on the orders of the USA. Cuba. I think the US made a serious mistake here, because if it had lifted the embargo Cuba would have carried on with the globalist system like the rest of us and when 'solutions' were offered to fix the meltdown (ones that maintain corporate control of course), nobody would know that there was a better way. But now, Cuba will be left standing, and we'll all want to follow their lead. There is a kind of poetry in that, especially as the US will also have to follow suit. Cuba's Agricultural Revolution@Everything2.com

            Changing the system means nobody gets to be 'culled' (and populations fall naturally as living standards rise) and we live in a sustainable way. No profit for the big boys in that so they seek to convince us that their version of sustainability (scarcity and overcarrying, GMOs, BigPharma, manmade climate change etc and more control over our lives) is best. If every country follows what Cuba does we'll be ok - but "They" won't, and their control and profits vanish. Profits are not so important at the moment, most of them can afford to lose a few billion and offer a few sacrificial lambs for the bigger picture. Control, ah, they don't want to give that up.

            You might wish to read up on this American site
            Post Carbon Institute | Reduce Consumption, Produce Locally.
            The head guy talks a lot of sense.
            I don't really believe in Peak Oil anymore Mike. The Russians are adamant it's not a fossil fuel, and is "a-biotic". They claim this is why they have shot up the chart as an energy producer because they have found oil where it shouldn't have been. They apparently tried to share with Western geologists - but most work for the Oil cartels. They were having none of it - 'scarcity' suits them fine. I see no reason to disbelieve the Russians, and of course it is just another way that Western science has been *******ised to serve special interests. The scary thing is Exxon very nearly got control of the worlds largest abiotic 'shelf'.

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            Nevertheless, I agree it is far better for us and the environment if we get away from our dependance on it, asap

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            Yo Robert, keep up the good work!

            Those articles give even more support suggesting Eastern Europe is the next domino to fall, so be interesting to see if it takes the EU with it. Unless I'm missing something I don't think that could have been part of the grand plan. The more they panic the more mistakes they'll make, the more they'll crumble under pressure.

            As we say over here, "they don't like it up 'em!" (I believe that refers to a bayonet up the posterior )
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            • Profile picture of the author Mike Wright
              Irrespective of the arguments about "Peak Oil", there will at some time
              in the future come a point where it is no longer possible to extract oil for
              technological or economic reasons. Recent discoveries generally seem to
              be in challenging and costly environments. Even governments are looking
              elsewhere for alternative, even retro, alternatives to oilbased dependency.

              On the plus side, demand for oil has decreased significantly in this economic downturn ... with the price staying around $40/brl. While this gives Big Oil a breathing space for further exploration and development, it also has started to erode their financial capability for further development.
              The terms "rock" and "hard place" spring to mind.

              The most telling thing on the TV farming program was two film clips of the same field being ploughed. The first one taken some 20/30 years ago showed hundreds of birds swooping down on the free lunch turned over by the plough. The recent (last year?) clip had no birds at all
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    While I have nothing about making it up and out - I don't think I'd want to be part of your group, Paul.
    Be careful - even the extremely well set and smug are taking a topple right now, it's not just the "bony fingered losers". Haven't you checked out what is happening to the massive prime borrowers lately? I imagine there are a lot of suicides going on that we're not being made privy to by our loyal corporate media swine.

    Give it a rest Paul - you might be prepared for the usual disturbance better than 99% of the rest - but don't think you can't stumble. Even Rockefeller himself once learned that one. People who are overly sure of themselves ward me off - they are the ones who get blind-sided the hardest when things take turns they didn't foresee.

    As far as metal - why bother buying it when you know how to find it? The law that Americans cannot own gold was suspended - but it was not taken off the books. All they have to do is lift the suspension - and all that gold is theirs and everyone who bought it just ends up with a fistfull of the same paper money they bought the metal to circumvent in the first place. LOL. They will starve in the transition while those that know how to find it will still have resources when the currency crashes and is swapped out.

    NH just initiated the first bill - Resolution 6 - which gives the circumstances under which they will secede from the union - 20 more states are in order of following suit. See ya after the war.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Sal,

      Well, I can't help losers. But I can and have been providing opportunity for over 30,000 motivated new affiliates per month with no investment. And there are lots of other free affiliate programs all over the web as well as in our very own WSO forum here.

      Opportunities are abounding in many areas. Unfortunately, many people are just too lazy to get off their ass and work; comfortable in their own self-pity, misery, poverty and failure. It seems they get their life-purpose fulfilled in spreading their own hopelessness and "end of days" mentality. I ain't got no time for that nonsense.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        Sal,

        Well, I can't help losers. But I can and have been providing opportunity for over 30,000 motivated new affiliates per month with no investment. And there are lots of other free affiliate programs all over the web as well as in our very own WSO forum here.

        Opportunities are abounding in many areas. Unfortunately, there are many just too lazy to get off their ass and work; comfortable in their own self-pity, misery, poverty and failure. It seems they get their life-purpose fulfilled in spreading their helpless mentality.
        LOL - I'll be sure and get down to the soup kitchens and the close to empty food banks and advertise for you. I'm sure those people can steal the affiliation fee from someone. My mailbox is right at my front door and I've got two dogs here telling me when someone is there so I'm not worried about my checks, LOL.

        Honestly - I don't think I've ever seen anyone advertise their programs as hardcore as you do. It's ingenious that you never get called out on spam, though - Kudos. I would start to use a new approach, however - being overly self-congratulatory at this time isn't going to turn heads much longer. I'm sure the rich jerk got his MO straight from you. Capitalism greed tactics will fail soon, though as financial difficulties are burning their way up the social ladder leaving many on the upper rungs nowhere to go but to dirt. Might start looking at a new marketing angle, LMAO.
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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          LOL - I'll be sure and get down to the soup kitchens and the close to empty food banks and advertise for you. I'm sure those people can steal the affiliation fee from someone. My mailbox is right at my front door and I've got two dogs here telling me when someone is there so I'm not worried about my checks, LOL.

          Honestly - I don't think I've ever seen anyone advertise their programs as hardcore as you do. It's ingenious that you never get called out on spam, though - Kudos. I would start to use a new approach, however - being overly self-congratulatory at this time isn't going to turn heads much longer. I'm sure the rich jerk got his MO straight from you. Capitalism greed tactics will fail soon, though as financial difficulties are burning their way up the social ladder leaving many on the upper rungs nowhere to go but to dirt. Might start looking at a new marketing angle, LMAO.
          Sal,

          I would be pleased to have you aboard, and welcome to the spam-free Capitalistic Master's table. Pass out my fliers to local businesses, and I'll pay you $100 for 5,000 fliers or 10% commission on average sales of $5,000. Soup kitchens don't get significant results - just thought I would save you some time. There is no fee to join whatsoever; your cost would be to print the provided fliers.

          Try business parks, restaurants, lawyers, real estate, medical offices, and accountants as being the best prospects for my services. You will be paid with Paypal; no dogs will stop delivery of your commission payments. Good luck, and congratulations again on finding this capitalistic opportunity.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      NH just initiated the first bill - Resolution 6 - which gives the circumstances under which they will secede from the union - 20 more states are in order of following suit. See ya after the war.
      Live Free or Die. I was born and raised in NH (yes, I now live in VT, but we are right with NH's ideals...)

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Well yeah sure - Print the material myself? I have to do that TOO? I want it done FOR me dammit. How can I be a champagne swilling, prada toting, condescending bitch of a royal order if I have to do everything myself? Uh...how do I pay the guy 80 bucks for distributing them if I have to spend it on printing? Geesh.

    I'm not worried about dogs TAKING my mail Paul - they guard the mailbox so my 10% doesn't get grabbed. I didn't say I'm not a capitalist pig - I'm just a tad humble about it and fully aware of the precarious nature of our economy for everyone - not just the poor or slovenly.
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    • Profile picture of the author highhopes
      I hope there is more like mymob at warrior....built up a biz, and diversified into other areas.
      dont rely on one form of revenue, remember the book "rich dad poor dad"?

      i feel really for the people starting off at this point in time....The internet?
      What happens if the servers get so bogged down they wont function?

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        Originally Posted by highhopes View Post

        I hope there is more like mymob at warrior....built up a biz, and diversified into other areas.
        dont rely on one form of revenue, remember the book "rich dad poor dad"?

        i feel really for the people starting off at this point in time....The internet?
        What happens if the servers get so bogged down they wont function?

        Could the Internet just...crash? Tech IT Easy
        LOL! There are lots of others like me. And people are making very nice incomes despite what these Masters of Disasters would have you believe.

        Warning: Economic conditions are dire; you must WORK for a living now, and be prudent and responsible. Bailouts and other government giveaways are getting harder to come by. You must look for your own opportunity. Here are a couple of excellent sources:

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        • Profile picture of the author dwt
          Thank goodness for people like you Paul! We all know how bad things are right now. We don't need to hear constant pessimism from people who want to spread the word of doom and gloom. No matter how bleak the future may seem, we have to continue to be optimistic and move forward!
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          • Profile picture of the author highhopes
            Originally Posted by dwt View Post

            Thank goodness for people like you Paul! We all know how bad things are right now. We don't need to hear constant pessimism from people who want to spread the word of doom and gloom. No matter how bleak the future may seem, we have to continue to be optimistic and move forward!
            Indeed 100%. but the point really is be prepared. Doom and gloom is just another subject for discussion. Nobody should bury their heads in the sand and pretend it is`nt going to happen!
            In fact to be forewarned is to be prepared...E.G I dont have any cash in the Icelandic banks!
            I read the doom and gloom reports from the people keeping a watch over my investments.
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            Receive the knowledge, understand it, then apply the wisdom to implement what you have learned.
            Hey, i`m not being smug here, i have made mistakes like everyone else. But I am a great believer in soliciting opinions before I act....That is being positive and optimistic.
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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            Originally Posted by dwt View Post

            Thank goodness for people like you Paul! We all know how bad things are right now. We don't need to hear constant pessimism from people who want to spread the word of doom and gloom. No matter how bleak the future may seem, we have to continue to be optimistic and move forward!
            Thanks, dwt, but there are actually some very good reasons to be optimistic even in tough times. I have made a whole lot of money in the stock market by investing heavily during the "gloom and doom" of the 70's and 80's. These days, with the current economic downturn it's just another but even greater opportunity for making the next generation of multi-millionaires and even new billionaires. Stocks and real estate are at bargain prices right now, and virtually everything I earn from my businesses gets dumped daily into the stock market. It's extremely tough right now, but the doom-sayers will always be poor no matter what happens.

            There is an estimated 8-12 TRILLION investment dollars worldwide just sitting on the sidelines waiting for the bottom of the market. I don't know where the bottom is, but my hunch is it is getting pretty close, and the breakout will be quite dramatic when the big hitters come back. I could be wrong. But, what if I'm right? Doom sayers never did understand tough times. They are always wrong and broke, and will become the next generation of whiners and complainers who berate the newly rich.
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            • Profile picture of the author highhopes
              Originally Posted by myob View Post

              Thanks, dwt, but there are actually some very good reasons to be optimistic even in tough times. I have made a whole lot of money in the stock market by investing heavily during the "gloom and doom" of the 70's and 80's. These days, with the current economic downturn it's just another but even greater opportunity for making the next generation of multi-millionaires and even new billionaires. Stocks and real estate are at bargain prices right now, and virtually everything I earn from my businesses gets dumped daily into the stock market. It's extremely tough right now, but the doom-sayers will always be poor no matter what happens.

              There is an estimated 8-12 TRILLION investment dollars worldwide just sitting on the sidelines waiting for the bottom of the market. I don't know where the bottom is, but my hunch is it is getting pretty close, and the breakout will be quite dramatic when the big hitters come back. I could be wrong. But, what if I'm right? Doom sayers never did understand tough times. They are always wrong and broke, and will become the next generation of whiners and complainers who berate the newly rich.

              Could`nt agree more! I am glad we have doomsayers, the kind who spend a lot of time analyzing in this case the financial world set-up. They do all the work, you examine their past /present results, you consider their future predictions then choose to ACT if you may be so bold.... My sorce of information has saved and made me money...god bless you doomsayers LOL.
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    Well said Paul!
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      Originally Posted by Leon McKee View Post

      Well said Paul!
      Thats in the context where California is the world's eighth largest economy and is virtually bankrupt, with its credit rating recently
      substantially downgraded thereby causing an inability to borrow
      sufficient to continue without severe restrictions on services and
      payrolls.

      AFAIK, in the UK there are only two industries making increased profits.
      They are the major energy utilities and the defence/armaments industries. All the others are contracting their operations or closing
      their doors. That is happening worldwide.

      Yes, some will continue to make/earn reasonable money. Some will
      do that via the internet. However, many will have a substantially
      lowered or minimal lifestyle for a long while ...even in the USA.

      Nothing at all wrong in trying to get a job or build a business.
      Best to keep a reserve safe ...just in case it does not happen.

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          It's all Nicolas Sarkozy's fault. The guy is a schmok. :-(
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  • Profile picture of the author Phnx
    There is a documentary on YouTube - think it might be a Channel 4 one - called The Future Of Food - and it shows the deep corporate control over the system. American farmers have been sued if their fields get contaminated by GMO crops and they are losing!

    The whole system has gotta go or we face a nightmare. Can't get a better model than Cuba.

    I came across an article last night that has made me reconsider whether the financial meltdown was intended. Oh sure, on the surface it appears that things are going to the (stated) plan. However, because of something a Congressman let slip on C-SPAN it seems that they could all be reacting to events, and are in complete panic mode.

    Either way we peons suffer, but this time they get to suffer too. In the long term we win because they are likely to lose the lot.

    Bad side if this new info is true, is it increases the odds for WW3 because of the players involved.

    I'll put it on the 'who to blame thread'.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
    Hi Phnx,

    However, because of something a Congressman let slip on C-SPAN it seems that they could all be reacting to events, and are in complete panic mode.
    So what's else is new?
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    • Profile picture of the author highhopes
      Nine meals from Anarchy???
      Back last summer this was a quote that made eveyone ( I think) sit up and take notice.

      Look at the ingredients on your dinner plate, artichokes from Israel, potatoes from Ireland,lamb from new zealand....about 5500 air miles to produce your meal?

      OIL crises? 1000 aircraft take off at one given moment in the world, each burning 1000 gallons of fuel per hour. EEK!
      This article from the UK state of food supplies

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      • Profile picture of the author highhopes
        Oh Oh, so the UK are printing billions of extra bank notes!
        Probably send the pound further behind the euro....Japan did this some years ago, eek!!!!
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    You mean Keynesian economics actually don't work?

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