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Earthquakes

by ShayB
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I kid you not - we have been having earthquakes lately.

In case you don't know it, Charleston, SC, was the location of a large earthquake a while back.

We have been noticing a lot of tremors and small quakes lately. It has people in Summerville on edge - that is where a lot of the tremors have been felt.

Guess I need to stock up on more supplies....:rolleyes:
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    Shay - Are you sure they are actually "quakes"? They aren't showing up on international tracking. If they are over 2.5 they should show up....but you would have a hard time feeling anything under that without actually paying attention for a small tremor. Oklahoma showed a mag 3. something yesterday. Other than that - California and Alaska (as always) and one small one in NY and one in WA.

    I just did a three year summary of the quake tracking I do - it's on my newsletter. Not sure if the site is working right now as we had a major problem to fix but it will be there by tonight.

    This year so far, we are way up from average for quakes - a lot of places shaking that don't usually shake. Big ones happening on some plate boundaries, but no 8 mag and over yet. It looks like we might be undergoing a bit of true polar wander. When the pole shifts (no catastrophe theories - this is a normal event event) everything will shake a little. There are also some changes going on in the mantle and that makes things shake.

    Since your quakes aren't showing up on tracking, I can't tell anything about them other than they are either very small or the shaking is due to something that they aren't wanting to tell you about and not really quakes.

    Gee, bet that all makes you feel better, eh?
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    • Profile picture of the author ShayB
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Shay - Are you sure they are actually "quakes"? They aren't showing up on international tracking. If they are over 2.5 they should show up....but you would have a hard time feeling anything under that without actually paying attention for a small tremor. Oklahoma showed a mag 3. something yesterday. Other than that - California and Alaska (as always) and one small one in NY and one in WA.

      I just did a three year summary of the quake tracking I do - it's on my newsletter. Not sure if the site is working right now as we had a major problem to fix but it will be there by tonight.

      This year so far, we are way up from average for quakes - a lot of places shaking that don't usually shake. Big ones happening on some plate boundaries, but no 8 mag and over yet. It looks like we might be undergoing a bit of true polar wander. When the pole shifts (no catastrophe theories - this is a normal event event) everything will shake a little. There are also some changes going on in the mantle and that makes things shake.

      Since your quakes aren't showing up on tracking, I can't tell anything about them other than they are either very small or the shaking is due to something that they aren't wanting to tell you about and not really quakes.

      Gee, bet that all makes you feel better, eh?
      That doesn't make me feel any better. :confused:

      The news is reporting them as small quakes. We have also had some mysterious booming lately - and that is being chalked up to possible offshore quakes.

      Why am I suddenly getting more paranoid....:rolleyes:
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    Okay Shay - one of your articles is all the way back from December and I don't have time to go there - at that magnitude there are up to thousands of quakes daily.

    But -- I did search from 2/16 on and there is NO RECORD of any quakes in your area in the National tracking databases. Period. Not even as low as mag 1. For 2/16 and on this is all I have found for any states even near you:

    1.4 mag - 1mi SSW of Dell, Arkansas - depth of 9.3 km (thats shallow) at 9:19 on 2/17
    2.2 mag - 11 mi SSE of Centreville, Alabama - depth of 25.7 km at 8:14 on 2/18
    1.6 mag - 3 mi E of Marston, Missouri - depth of 5 km at 7:39 on 2/20


    Now - this is some strange stuff going on here. There is an international grid and they don't just "miss" quakes. I'm not saying you don't have them there - they can happen anywhere in the world. But there is something very wrong with earthquakes being reported that aren't showing on the grid. Also - the quake was reported as a 2.5,which should barely be felt at all yet they say that it was felt for quite some ways. Uh..no. Sorry - doesn't add up. You're barely going to feel 2.5 if you're standing right on top of it and it's only a few km down. I am sure your local authorities and news have reported these things, but There's no way in hell you had a 2.5 quake that missed the grid.

    If I have the dates wrong and they were before 2/16 -- give me the date and I'll investigate again. If you are talking about an event on or after 2/16 - something is going on that they don't want people asking questions about and copping them off as earthquakes so people don't think about it and start asking questions. Is there a military base that you know of in that area? I'm really serious as a crutch about this, Shay.

    If the one in the first article happened after the 16th, tell me the distances they are talking about in that first article you have posted. I want to do some further investigating on this stuff.
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    • Profile picture of the author ShayB
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      If I have the dates wrong and they were before 2/16 -- give me the date and I'll investigate again. If you are talking about an event on or after 2/16 - something is going on that they don't want people asking questions about and copping them off as earthquakes so people don't think about it and start asking questions. Is there a military base that you know of in that area? I'm really serious as a crutch about this, Shay.

      If the one in the first article happened after the 16th, tell me the distances they are talking about in that first article you have posted. I want to do some further investigating on this stuff.
      Yes, there are military bases all over the place here. Not as many as there used to be, but there are a lot of military bases here.

      Even the bases that are no longer supposed to be active are heavily guarded and have trucks and equipment going in and out, so make your own assumptions there. :rolleyes:

      I can do some digging for more dates.
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      • Profile picture of the author ShayB
        This is interesting.

        Here are quotes from the local news station:

        Jan. 29th, 4:18 pm:
        "We are being flooded with calls of a boom/graoundshake occurence in Summerville." (Summervile is a suburb of Charleston, BTW.)

        Jan. 29th, 4:22 pm:
        "People have been calling nonstop about a boom/vibration they felt. USGS has nothing, local seimologists nothing... sonic boom..."

        Jan. 29th, 4:30 pm:
        "CONFIRMED: Tremors felt around Summerville were an earthquake, according to CofC earthquake center."

        Jan. 29th, 5:43 pm:
        "USGS says the e-quake was a 2.5."

        Jan. 30th, 12:43 pm:
        "Seimologists say the epicenter of yesterday's quake was 3 miles UNDER Shadowmoss."
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      • Profile picture of the author Dave Patterson
        Originally Posted by ShayRockhold View Post

        Yes, there are military bases all over the place here. Not as many as there used to be, but there are a lot of military bases here.

        Even the bases that are no longer supposed to be active are heavily guarded and have trucks and equipment going in and out, so make your own assumptions there. :rolleyes:

        I can do some digging for more dates.
        Quote from Military(dot)Com article...

        "Alleged al-Qaida sleeper agent Ali Saleh al-Marri, the only person being held in the U.S. as an enemy combatant, is in the Naval Brig in South Carolina."

        I think he's been there since 2002 or so...
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    Nice. Give me whatever dates you have in the last few months and I'll see what I can dig up -- practice ranges would worry me more than barracks in the matter of shakers - but guarded "inactive" barracks and earthquakes that don't show on the grid doesn't sound good to me at all. What the hell is going on in this country?
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    Planet has been tilting left since the 4th of November.

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  • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
    Is the planet tilting left a bad thing?

    Earthquakes in NJ. was in the headlines recently.

    Once I woke up early AM and it felt like my bed jumped up and landed back down. I thought it was weird then went back to sleep. Later I learned we had a mild earthquake. This was about a year and a half ago.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by valerieSONORA View Post

      Is the planet tilting left a bad thing?
      Yes, and the tilt is getting worse all the time. Slowly, but inexorably and often imperceptively, the tilt goes on.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Well Shay - boom is not earthquake, we all know that one.

    The other dates might just have been small quakes - didn't check that far back. Will possibly check it out when I'm doing my tallies, but for right now I'm not going to look any further at it. I just knew there hadn't been anything recorded there this last week and it really perked my attention. If I don't find anything around the last week of Jan - then it's time to wonder WTH.

    Yeah Val - NY has had a few very minor ones lately, too. Earthquakes are not unusual - many are so light you won't even know they happened unless someone reports it. As I said - I thought Shay meant this last week and I knew that was off somewhere.
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    • Profile picture of the author Barbara Eyre
      Since the Charleston area hosts one of the bigger Air Force bases in the nation, its no wonder you don't hear more "booms" and feel more "shakes". Any one of those large rocket propelled jets could cause surface tremors (or any of the other military toys they have).

      Perhaps they were testing a new design and didn't want anyone to know about it and said it was a quake just for the public's sake. Doubt anything to be paranoid about.

      I follow earthquakewordl on Twitter (yes, that is a misspelling, but the actual spelling) and get notified of quakes relatively right away. Don't recall see anything for our neck of the woods in the last few months ... like Sal said, wasn't on the grid.
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      Originally Posted by jacstone193 View Post

      hope they have eased off now Shay?
      Yes, they have.
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  • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
    Why is it bad if the earth tilts? Couldn't something good come out of it?
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by valerieSONORA View Post

      Why is it bad if the earth tilts? Couldn't something good come out of it?
      Uh....Valerie? He was joking. The earth does tilt on its axis. It also wobbles and that is called Chandler's Wobble after the guy who discovered it.

      Now in December of 2005, that wobble STOPPED for around 2 weeks. Scientists went bonkers because it had never done so before and they started trying to figure it all out. They came to the conclusion that we would start experiencing more frequent, and larger Earthquakes (not going to explain all of that here, not writing a book).

      So, I hooked up to the database and have been following it ever since. I put out semi weekly stats for 5.0 and over in my forum and do quarterly and yearly reports. I just finished a three year report which is on my newsletter. We have just cleared out a major JS virus attack and the site isn't acting normal yet, but will be back in one piece tonight - you should be able to get to the newsletter, though. And it's safe to cruise now. Just don't be surprised if something isn't quite working right yet.

      As far as Shay's area - she is not sitting on a plate boundary so unless there's a faultline running underneath her somewhere close probably won't experience any really hard earthquakes there unless we start to experience a rapid true polar wander, and anything faster than is happening now is highly unlikely. That is why I went back to the database to check out what magnitude those things were - and didn't see them because I didn't look at the right timeframes. But as I thought I was looking at the right dates it alarmed me.

      So.........Its all good.

      HTH
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Chandler's Wobble does not account for the left tilt of the earth, as it it amounts to only 0.7 arcseconds. There are many other forces at work termed nutations, such as forces caused by the tidal attraction of the Moon and Sun, changes in the mass distribution or angular momentum of the Earth's outer core, atmosphere, oceans, or crust (from earthquakes), fluctuating pressure on the bottom of the ocean, caused by temperature and salinity changes, and wind-driven changes in the circulation of the oceans. The most recent wobble was from the Obama Phenomena, which has caused a rapid tilt to the left, and the world will eventually flip over it. You can see this starting to happen as more and more people are shaken upside down on their mortgages.

        This is not good.
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    Oh I agree totally, Paul. All that unbalanced redistribution of all that mass is going to throw things off kilter majorly.
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  • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
    Crap, I'm so clueless about science I can't even tell if someone is joking or not LOL But th e earth tilting sounds fun. Maybe it can tilt super fast and it will be like an amusement park ride.

    Sal you should write a book on earthquakes you know a lot about that. You should also write one about gem hunting and you can write a book to translate Indy's mumbo jumbo into layman's English.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Actually, it just looks like a normal Chandler's wobble cycle at the high point of the cycle. The cycle only stopped for a few weeks. There is also more snow and ice up there than we've had in 15 or more years right now - melts going on in Antarctica. Those small imbalances are what causes the wobble.

    All is well -- as well as it's gonna get anyhow.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Shay - found your 1/29 quake on the datasheets. 6 km deep - crustal. Not too much to worry about on its own. I'd worry more about those booms that nobody can figure out.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lover Perfum
      Sal you should write a book on earthquakes you know a lot about that.

      by the way i got alot from this thread.
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