Innocent U.S. Man Drank Urine To Survive In Holding Cell Without Food, Water

I read this yesterday...how in the hell...do you "forget" about a guy in a holding tank for 5 days? I'd say that is 4 days and 5 million dollars too long...

Such a crazy story. He will definitely be getting compensation!

If this were an isolated incidence I would say S*HIT happens but this kind of stuff happens all the time but you just do not here about it .

This is what happens when the government does not operate within the confines of the constitution of the uNITED sTATES.

5 days in a dark room is enough to make you go bonkers and eat glass??

I don't think so. Dude had some serious issues before they forgot about him.

Or

hes one smart guy, and realized what was up fairly quickly and decided
this could be his ticket to big bucks.


and my other thought is, people say we don't just lock people up and forget
about them anymore... i guess we finally have proof that , that yes we do.

I haven't even read the story,but there are some facts whether its "completely" true or not.
Water or in this case fluid is what your body needs more than food......
So drinking urine is not that questionable. There are many stories of people having to do it to survive. I think I've even heard of Delta force teams and such being given urine filters in case the are in a situation that they need to drink their own urine.
If there really was meth in the cell, it would have had to been planted by the people who put him in the cell,That would also escalate his need for fluids.

I know not enough fluids can cause kidney problems but I don't know how little or how long it takes. It took me 6 months to go from diagnosis to complete failure even though at the time of diagnosis the drs told me I probably had a year and a half. So who know,hopefully if he does have prblems theya re reversible.

As far as sensory deprivation, every individual is different. I might last 2 days,you might last two weeks but it would eventually get to you.

I never heard of this story til I saw the thread, but interestingly enough The former intelligence head was talking about waterboarding and prisoner torture used by the US in general and mentions isolation and sleep deprivation as two of the most effective means.

To end this on a less somber note,at my doctors office the nurse that does my weekly blood draw has a list of medical terms and their meanins taped on the wall.
This is what one of them says:
Urine- The opposite of you're out.

Thats what I call the police taking the piss

That was horrible and Daniel Chong is going to have a huge lawsuit over this.

Just read both links, Came from the same "paper" and they don't even agree.
Makes it hard for me to know what to believe.

About being delusional.... The most LIBERAL statement I have read is that the body has a 2 day supply of protein, BEST CASE! MANY say it has NO supply! That means that after about 2 to 48 hours, your body will start eating ITSELF if you don't get food. Of course, carbs and fats can be derived from fat, which is why you lose most of that weght, but protein requires PROTEIN! And stress and injury increases need. The water level drops, probably by like 20% EVERY DAY! Ironically, some of the water is replaced with ammonia created by spent protein. You have to also realize that food often also provides water. Imagine all the stress, isolation, suspicions, and the fact that his body was basically EATING ITSELF! Just NORMAL fasting would have caused him to lose up to 10 pounds! With the lack of water, and everything else, I wouldn't be surprised if he lost TWENTY! BTW 20pounds is about 9Kg

Steve

Wow, I'm in shock. How can the U.S government do this? wow , no food, dark room with no windows... just plain terrifying if you ask me! "Chong was treated in the hospital for dehydration, kidney failure, cramps and a perforated esophagus. He had lost 15 pounds."

Having to drink your ***** to survive, NUTS!

"His attorneys filed a $20 million claim on Wednesday against the federal agency, saying his treatment constitutes torture under U.S. and international law."

I hope that kid gets compensation! like WTF!

Taking illegal drugs is a crime.

Imprisoning someone for 5 days without sunlight, food, or water (in a small cell) is an atrocity.

Some Americans need attitude adjustments. When did "he was taking drugs" mean that it's not so vile that he was tortured. Outside of committing a very violent offense to someone else, there is nothing, nothing - that makes him deserving of that.

I see the same thing when people get tased - "ho, they broke the law" -- so it's okay to electrocute them? Maybe we should be thinking of changing laws instead of being led to believe that torturing people is just fine and dandy if they aren't following the laws. Laws are supposed to be to protect society from other people - not to protect them from themselves.

Cops love it when people get real judgmental about what other people did wrong - it takes all the heat off of them for acting like militia. Maybe all the judgmental attitudes are why we only have 5% of the world's population and have 25% of the world's incarcerated people.

The guy already had a drug problem -- um.......maybe what he deserves is a little compassion ......and some HELP.

Tasing has been covered many times in many threads here already. It should be outlawed.It IS inhuman and it CAN kill.

Sal, first,he wasn't tortured.He was treated inhumanly by negligence of the part of all involved. Sure he should get "some" compensation but nowhere near what he is asking and all the police involved should be terminated. Immediately.

As far as his drug problem, I don't consider recreational use a drug problem. He wasn't an addict,and he was there expressly for the reason of getting high (I don't know what on)and breaking the law.
I think pot should be decriminalized,but thats the only drug that should be in my opinion.
Maybe we have 25% of the prisoners because they are not taught to respect or obey the laws?
Again, I know there are a lot in prison just for pot and I don't agree they should be there .

Kim,

There are maybe 5 types of torture....
1. Sensory Denial.
2. Food/Water deprivation.
3. Sleep deprivation.
4. Repetitive action.(like the water drop torture)
5. Physical abuse/injury.

Apparently, Chong had 1,2, and 3! So I would say he WAS tortured! Most torture CAN be automated by seemingly innocent action or inaction.

Kurt,

YOU FIRST!

Steve

Steve, I think torture is an intentional act. That's why I said what i did.

Even so, I agree he should get some compensation and those responsible should be terminated. If that happened I would bet it never would happen again there.
But without a picture of the cell/holding area I can only say for sure he had #2.
#3 would be self induced if he had it,and he had the uses of all his senses except maybe sight,which is why I said I would need to see the holding area. If there were no windows and he actually had no light I could agree about sensory deprivation.