Why I rarely post in the main forums anymore

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Someone started a thread about why you shouldn't ask for a WSO refund.

Here is his post:
Have you ever bought a WSO that sounded too good to be true but you got "suckered" in and went for it any way?

What did you do?

I have to admit, it's happened to me a few times.

BUT...

I didn't ask for a refund. Here is why:

1) If I know better but let my greed get the best of me then the small price of a WSO is more than worth the lesson.

2) Sometimes it turns out that the info is good but it doesn't meet my goals or current schedule. However, that's the risk I take and it's MY RESPONSIBILITY not the seller's.

So instead of asking for a refund, I move on with my life.

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Basically he is saying don't get a refund due to buyers remorse, take personal responsibility for your decision.

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Seems most people responding don't get his message and are posting about everything but what the thread was about....crappy WSOs,serial refunders,blah blah blah.

And THAT is why I don't post much up there. :rolleyes:
#off topic forum
  • What's Main Discussion? :confused::confused::confused:
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    • Banned
      Where we talk about the installation, maintenance, and repair of water mains.



      At least that is what I've been talking about this whole time.
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  • I hear you KIM.

    I know this is not exactly what you are referring to but:
    The main forum has (IMO) gone off topic.

    Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum
    Where We Talk About Making Money

    Should maybe read: Where We Talk About Whatever Is On Your Mind...


    I have to add that when the mods are alerted or they notice themselves threads are moved or deleted but the sheer volume makes it an up hill battle. And it's not only newer members who are at fault.

    As for the nonsense posts, many people just seem to put in their 2 cents worth without actually reading the OP or the following posts.
    And when OP is asking for some kind of advice you also notice the same answers again and again, it's almost like they read it on a different thread and regurgitated the reply as their own.
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  • Still being relatively new to the forum, I'm still tempted to post upstairs every now and again but I'm usually disappointed.

    It's either the same question asked 14 times or questions so asinine you wanna just come out and tell them "If you have to ask that...give up now, find a day job cuz you ain't gonna make it"
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  • Yeah, but is it legal?
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  • I agree with you on this one Kim, I was on a thread yesterday and all it took was one person to say something crazy that had nothing to do with the original post then everyone started posting about what he had said and not the original post.

    Crazy.
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    • I have to admit I very stealthily creep up the stairs once in a while always glancing from side to side, back behind me and straight ahead looking out for all the cow puckey flying around and all the people biotching about stepping in it.

      Then there are people debating whether it was cow puckey, cow dung or straight out bullsh*t!

      And others still are running around trying to teach everyone exactly the correct method those animals should use while having a bowel movement while others still are screaming their services for pooper scoopers are better than the next guys.

      Then, if I've avoided having to race back down here for escape and refuge, every once in a while I find a worthwhile post and responses to it and it seems worth venturing up there occasionally.

      Just depends on if I want to put on my hip waders or not.

      Terra
  • It may solve a few problems around here if people had to pass an IQ test before they were allowed to post. I say that will full awareness I might not be able to pass it.
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    • iq is not in my im dictionary

      please explain
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    • Some of the crazy and senile old timers still post in the main forums because they just can't see what's up.
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    We also would have accepted the following (the Spanish version because we are in Florida after all):

    02. You've Got a Friend In Me [end credits Spanish version] (Toy Story 3 Soundtrack) - Randy Newman - YouTube
  • might still have a friend but the hair is long gone

    recorded on the hirsute apple label methinks
  • I saw what you mean about your thread Mark...
    Just goes to show most people don't care unless they get a swift kick in the pants.
    You can spend more time up there reporting threads than you do reading.
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    • In the immortal words of Jack Nicholson, "This town needs an enema!"

      Talk to me, folks. What needs to trigger the 'eject' button?


      Paul
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  • If someone starts a post with who what when where or why make it automatically default to the search function?
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  • Since this forum is the size of a small city, you can't really be surprised when you see it's got as many wackos as your average municipality.
  • I only go because I like poking people with a stick
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    • OK, how about this,
      when someone registers a new account they see this:

      - WELCOME -


      All tongue in cheek of course, but feel free to add your own...
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    3. READ RULE #1,
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  • I finally jettisoned myself in an escape shuttle from the main board a few minutes ago. People were beginning to hurl accusation of porn-star identities at each other while jumping on Fin when he jokingly said the e-books were dead. I think there were mentions of goat sacrifice to appease a Penguin/Panda hybrid as well.

    The truly clueless and the non-English speakers have taken over tonight.

    :rolleyes:

    -- j
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    • You need to pace yourself up there, 10 min at a time.
      Long exposures to main forum could lead to dementia.
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  • Well, gee, Terra - - exactly how many people in here (even those that call themselves writers) ever took writing 101? LOL.

    Most people learn everything they know about business at all here in the WF - from marketers.

    I still go into the main forum sometimes. I post sometimes. It's increasingly difficult to find a thread that I even can read through the OP without feeling the need to click out of there. At least there are some members that post some interesting and informative threads now and again. I'm finding more and more, though, even Sr members of the forum are just posting in reaction to all the retardation taking place up there.

    Paul - I don't know if you can do much about it, but if I think of anything that might work I'll sure pass it along. It's not like we're all that free to just bombard that forum and roast the idiots like we do down here in the bar. LOL.
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    • Haha Sal!

      But come on, didn't they even go to high school and have college English classes or college prep classes?

      If not, I'm sure they could have gleaned some common sense from their regular English classes?

      Or do you suppose it's a generational thing? :confused:

      Terra
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  • It happened to me again this morning. I've tried twice to get back into the main forum, and both times it's been so full of *bleep*, *bleep*, and especially heapings loads of *bleep* that I can't spend my allotted 19 hours in there. I feel like I may have to actually be productive and do something with my time besides post to the WF.
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      I'm seeing it a lot more too over the last couple of days, might just be because I am looking for it more. I actually stayed away for most of today...and got a lot done.

      Still, I'd rather keep putting time in here. I do enjoy the community.
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  • I've tried to be positive when im in the 'anything goes forum' but there's just soooo much c__p being posted and so many buffoons to deal with....
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      It's even worse today.
      More like a childrens playground.
  • Since few people in the main forum listen nowadays and ask the same questions again and again and refuse to listen to good advice when it doesn't suit them, posting there seems akin to casting perls before swine.

    -Chris
  • Okay. Enough.

    Les, I just went through the front page. The thread titles are mostly sensible, and the OPs I looked at were reasonable. There's nothing "playground" about it.

    Yes, there are always going to be newbie comments. What, exactly, do you expect in a plavce that attracts as many new people as this one does every day?

    Chris... How is any of what you just said "new?" It's an inescapable part of the process. You'll find it in any large group.


    Paul
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    • What? No more bellyaching?
      If we can't bellyache down here, where can we bellyache among friends?

      In any large group not only are there going to be newbies but oldies that belly ache about the newbies. In brick and mortar society we call these places retirement homes and/bars. On WF it's the OT or Basement.

      If you take our bellyaching away, all we'll have left to talk about is music and deceased celebrities.


  • I can understand the newbie questions to a point, especially from the youngsters that are here to really learn,but some of the posts are beyond ridiculous and the answers from supposedly intelligent people are even worse.
    My original post in the thread is the perfect example.
    The OP was saying man up and be responsible for your own actions,and the thread turned into everything but what the post was about.
    Part of my OP:
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    Basically he is saying don't get a refund due to buyers remorse, take personal responsibility for your decision.

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    Seems most people responding don't get his message and are posting about everything but what the thread was about....crappy WSOs,serial refunders,blah blah blah.

    And THAT is why I don't post much up there.
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    • I can understand repetitive questions because as Paul said there are so many new members signing-up daily and for them the question is new.

      What i don't get is completely off topic threads, nonsense threads and do you get a warning every time a mod has to waist time deleting or removing a thread? ie:

      Poll - Are you going to invest in Facebook?
      When is it time to quit?
      How can i make $5000 by next week?
      Can i post a video?
      Affiliate announce - good or bad?
      etc. etc. etc.


      I think many of the "ridiculous" posts are from people who know that the main forum is where they will get the most attention.
      Maybe It's a combination of ego and stupidity?

      Anyway, my interpretation of Off-Topic and Nonsense may be out of sync with the mainstream...
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  • SaleGurus,

    I saw this thread in the main forum before my last post:
    "Can I sell an Aweber account?"

    Maybe I'm just too old fashioned,but I believe if you want a good answer, you go to the source.
    In this case, if the OP wants to know if he can sell an Aweber account, why not ask Aweber for goodness sakes??
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  • basically, i would agree not to ask for a refund if the information is good. wso's isn't a book store where you can browse to see if it fits in with your current goals. there should be enough information on the wso to make a reasonable decision if it will or not.

    what i don't agree with is not asking for a refund if the wso was hyped up more than what it was. although i have only bought 2 wso's in my life, i kept them both. it's easy for me to sort through the garbage. for some people it's not though and they shouldn't have to suffer. if the wso is honoring a refund, request one. it's not just about the person buying the wso and learning from the mistake. it's about the seller's mistake as well. what is the seller learning if nobody requests a refund if it was garbage or hyped up too much or your not getting your money's worth(which is relative anyway)? nothing. he/she will continue to sell the same way because they made a **** load of money in the past from it.

    so bottom line, ask for those refunds if your not satisfied.
  • There's a difference between "This specific thing is a problem" and "Life sucks, and you suck if you don't agree that life sucks."

    Too much griping lately. It's gotten to where even OT sounds like an old guy bar.


    Paul
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    • Haha! Can't wait until the next family member calls to ask me what I've been up to lately and I tell them I've been hangin' out in an old guy bar!

      Terra
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    • Paul,
      I agree partially, but this forum,the OT one, also gets way too many ridiculous and/or repeated questions when anyone with more than a few weeks on the internet should be able to find the answer too using just the search function.

      I can't speak for anyone else, but I actually try to build real relationships with people down here. A lot are actually people that I would love to associate with in real life.

      If the OT is sounding like an old guy bar, I can only think of a couple of "old time" forum members creating that atmosphere,and it really seems more recently and outspoken than before.

      And ,as history always seems to repeat itself down here, election time seems to get hot and heavy, and I applaud you and the other Mods that show extra restraint during those times.
      As you know, I have a forum that I opened up to all those that wanted to discuss both religion and politics last election. The forum is still there.

      There are at least two members who post down here that in my opinion seem to be taunting the Mods to act on them,but I'm not mentioning names.

      And I am not blameless myself. I've made posts in the past that I have regretted,but more recently I have been trying to be more restrained.

      Most of my posts fall into 4 categories.
      Musical
      Humorous
      Educational
      and,hopefully for those that I feel are sincerely asking for it, helpful.

      Sometimes though a lot of people here are too thin skinned.
      I'm not, it takes a lot to really get under my skin,and I can think of less than a dozen times over the years I have been here that I've actually let someone do it. Considering I joined in the late 90s,I think thats pretty good.
      I know when I log off for the night, I can sleep because I've followed my beliefs and I always try to be good to others.

      The original intent of this thread was to point something out.

      While some of the posts have gone all over the map, I think most have gotten my original point.

      And once again, I respect the job that you Mods do, since when I joined the forum the members probably were in the hundreds, dealing with the hundreds of thousands the forum now has has to be a nightmare.

      Thank you all.
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  • Time for a RedBull - work to be done!!!! Anyone up for a quick drink?
  • Ladies,Ladies,
    Who's buying the shots of tequila?
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    • Got the first round, Kim.



      Terra
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    Haha.. not bad at all. I will not post there again too. I am with you on this
  • Is the "Old Guy Bar" still open, or have last rounds been called?

    Actually i owned 2 Pubs/Bars years ago and those 2 words 'last rounds' still
    haunt me today.
    Sitting there at midnight with a few regulars who have no concept of time
    or the meaning of last rounds...

    Funny that some of them are now counted among my best friends and that's also where my wife and i met.

    Good times...
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    • Move to Las Vegas...Two words you NEVER will hear together there are "Last Call".
  • If you want to go through six months of debating, defending yourself, and proving someone wrong everytime they question your motives till they cant argue anymore.... THEN, you can be a main poster in the main forum.

    I already did my time there to become a main poster in the OFFLINE one... now that its segregated Im so NOT used to being greeted with such sarcasm and pessimism. Almost everytime I go into the main forum I feel a little sick and dont stay long. Thats not sarcasm its just me being honest....

    BUT.... Mark it down and get your debate notes ready, because you will NEED them...

    JUST for giving me a hard time, at some point Im going to rise up and go in there and kick butt for six straight months and maybe even take over somebodies pond..., just out of "principle"... and stand up to some people who are too territorial to be nice now. They may not even want to keep the same username after coming out of the ring. I vow this. Just dont have the energy to fight at this time.
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  • I haven't read the thread, but I would like to add my opinion to it.

    The reason I don't post periodically in the main forums, is because I have little experience and advice to share with the people there. There are other persons who are very good at what they do, so I leave it up to them, and I also thank them for sharing with us their knowledge.

    Also, there are a lot of threads asking the same old things, so it's really a Sisyphean job trying to reply to all of them.
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    • No offense, you really should read a thread before replying or at least a few posts to get the gist of it.
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  • Hey I got my SECOND Paul Myers "splorf" ever. This is a monumentous occassion! Yeah Im the one responsible for about 3000 of them. Just Kidding....only 2k, really.

    In answer though Paul, logic works about fifty percent of the time, the rest is variables. Its always worth a shot because you have it 50% down from the get go if you are applying logic....then you just take your human and deal with the variables, those are called "Challenges".

    We can measure our self development by how we deal with challenges.

    Sorry, I had to answer in my own "Voice".
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