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Canadian man dragged from outhouse by black bear:

Outhouse bear attack survivor was grabbed from 'throne' - Manitoba - CBC News

I'm guessing the bear wanted an answer to the age-old question, "Does a human $#1t in the woods?"
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    • This is a real brave man!

      For 43 years, Professor Lynn Rogers has studied wild bears


      BBC - Earth News - The man who walks with bears

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      From black bears in minnesota USA, Africa and other countries live as it happens! Excellent tv.
  • Or maybe the bear just wanted to use the outhouse to disprove the age old misconception that bears do in fact $h1t in the woods!
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  • That's not an attitude I'd expect from a black bear - I'd expect it from a grizzly.

    An animal's snout is the same thing as our solar plexis. If you are grabbed by an animal the best way to get them off you is to cram something into their mouth, ears, beat them on the muzzle, and poke their eyes. Of course - this is stuff you only do if you already have to fight for your life. Animals usually have the best odds of winning that kind of fight - but those are the points that will give you the best odds of getting away as an animal has to worry about their lives, too. That guy should have shoved that roll of toilet paper in the bear's mouth - it couldn't have bitten anything else until he got it out of his mouth and the guy might have been able to get away.

    Of all the animals in the woods..........bears are the ones that scare me the most. When I get out of the rig to rock hunt - I sing at the top of my lungs to let any bears know I'm around. They will avoid humans and just get out of the way most of the time. Even if they don't, if they know you are there you are wayyy less likely to surprise them. You really, really do not want to surprise a bear.
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    • It's not very common with black bears, but not unheard of.

      When a black bear attacks, it's almost always to eat you. You should fight back when a black bear attatcks.

      If it's a mother brown/grizzly bear with cubs, it's best to cover up and play dead. She's just attacking to make sure you can't harm her cubs.

      If any bear is coming through your tent with you in it, it knows you're there and you're the food it's after. Fight back.

      Never stare at a bear, especially a male, it's a challenge. Always stare at a big cat. Cats are ambush preditors and prefer to attack from behind. Make sure they know you can see them.
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    • Why yes. Yes I do. I'd be glad to post a video, unfortunately, I'd be a tad shy as I have nothing appropriate to wear for one. Give me just awhile and let me checkout these curtains a bit.
  • Yep, a black bear would usually be pretty hungry to attack a human. But a woman was attacked by a black bear in Colorado Springs a few days ago. It was outside her house and she banged some pots to scare it away (which is what we're told to do). Instead of running, the bear attacked her.

    And cats can tell if a person is watching. There's some places in India where they wore masks backwards so to help prevent tiger attacks, but the tigers learned it was just a ploy. But it did work for a time.

    Tiger attacks in the Sundarbans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    And I believe moose kill more people in N. America than bears...And if you count car accidents, deer kill more people in the US than any other animal. Bambi is really more dangerous then Yogi.
  • Interesting, Kurt. I had no clue that cat's vision was that acute. I always thought they could just tell which direction you were moving. I also didn't know there were black bear in CO. Never saw one, just brown and grizzly. When I think of a black bear, I think of Michigan. I would actually rather run across a black than a brown though.

    And it seems to me if deer and cars are that dangerous, we shouldn't let them drive.

    Kidding aside - I've seen the speed some people drive at night in areas where there is a lot of wildlife. They hit anything that goes near a road. If they would slow down to a sensible speed when driving in wildlife areas, they wouldn't hit so many in the first place. Got to side with the animals on this one.
  • No lie. That's about the last way I would have handled it. Actually - I sing. I sing Moon Dance to animals. It's soft and non-threatening. Of course, my voice isn't that wonderful but animals aren't the music critics that humans are. Another thing I do is talk soft baby talk to them. Anything that sounds non-threatening. I'm still here so I guess they like it. At least it doesn't bring out any fear or anger in them. LOL.

    Interesting video. There was a guy up in Alaska who did about the same. Something happened and one of the bears turned on him and killed him one day. He was becoming a little brave about approaching strange bears, too, though. Hard to tell what went wrong, but when it did, it REALLY went wrong.
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    • Sal, here in Algonquin Park, a few cars have been destroyed by black bears breaking into them for food - this during the summer months.

      The summer tourists/campers are warned against leaving food in tents, vehicles etc. Some just don't respect the rules and pay the consequences.
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    • I remember watching a documentary about him i think? Was he a bit deranged or had a mental problem as well? If it`s the right film he and his girl friend were killed filming the grizzlies and one turned on them. The cameras were still rolling throughout, but they didnt show the film footage but kept the sound on, awful. Was it a film like "The man who loved grizzlies" ?
      Definitely Alaska, I remember that much.
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  • I know bears are social animals and they even play with dogs in some areas.

    Polar bears and dogs playing - YouTube

    I'll bet this was just a bear prank. Like "first one to bed" except with sleep replaced with defecation.
  • OK, this is not a bear, but the OP made me remember this, and this is hilarious:

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    • That's a Caucasian Mountain dog...The meanest, baddest dog there is. You don't need to teach it to protect, they will instinctively. They'll bond with any human or animal they grow up with, then pretty much try to kill every thing else.

      They use them in Russian prisons. And they can be as big as bears, it's isn't unusual for them to be 200-220 pounds. They are really really scary dogs.
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  • Sal, I've been in close proximity to black bears a few times. Once I was back in the trails taking Riley for a run. I took the atv that day - I stopped as, up ahead, I saw Riley was just of the trail and looking up and barking excitedly.

    I then proceeded to drive up beside her. Up in the tree were two black cubs, cute little buggers. The atv didn't faze them, but they started descending rapidly when the saw me!

    I called Riley and we got out there as I knew mother bear wouldn't be to far away.

    Had a adult black bear follow me out of the trails one time - I was on foot and had the dog with me. Fortunately, he stopped and gazed around for about 20 minutes, then headed back to where he came from.

    I'm not afraid of them myself, yet - but do have great respect for them, their territory and especially their cubs.

    There are a couple of black bears that hang out at the local dump during the summertime. I always have the dog with me when I go - she stays in the vehicle though. I can talk to them and often take dry dog food with me just to throw down for them.

    When I lived on Baptiste Lake, I remember being told about a black bear that killed a Springer Spaniel at the local dump there. The family use to drive in to watch the bears, for entertainment, on a regular basis. They weren't so lucky the last time.

    That was the very first time I had even heard about people going to dumps to watch the bears!
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    • This is a very scary situation. If a black bear follows you, it could very well be hunting you.

      Where I live, I usually get 2-3 bears in the yard a year. I can't leave trash out. And if I ever go in the woods around here, I carry a big can of pepper spray.

      This video was taken about 15 miles from where I live:

      Drunken Bear Stumbles Through Colorado - YouTube
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  • I posted this before, but here's a bear called the Spirit Bear. It's not a polar bear, they are black bears with a double recessive gene that makes them cream colored.

    They are all female and there's only about 300 of them and they live north of Vancouver BC.

    The sad part is, hunters are shooting the males that carry the recessive gene needed for Spirit bears because they can't tell they have the genes since only females will be white.

    Eye to Eye with a Spirit Bear - YouTube

    PS...You'd think if we can find and film spirit bears and there's only 300 of them, we could find Big Foot too?
  • Here's Bart the Bear...If you've ever seen a grizzly in a movie or on TV made more than 10 years ago, there's a very good chance it was Bart.

    BTW, his trainer is a pretty big guy. Bart was about 1500 lbs.

    Now the guy trains a griz named Tank who stars in the more recent TV commercials, shows and movies.

    Grizzly Bear Devours Trainer - YouTube
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    • [QUOTE=Kurt;6313183]Here's Bart the Bear...If you've ever seen a grizzly in a movie or on TV made more than 10 years ago, there's a very good chance it was Bart.

      BTW, his trainer is a pretty big guy. Bart was about 1500 lbs.

      Now the guy trains a griz named Tank who stars in the more recent TV commercials, shows and movies.



      It's this kind of stuff that makes people want to domesticate wild animals. :p
  • Kurt lives in the 13,000 foot peaks of Colorado, not too far from where I used to live.

    I am out in the wilderness a lot for my gem hunting business/hobby. I've been in wilderness in around 15 states - and what they CALL wilderness in about 20 more.
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    We've had black bears in our garbage out here in the sticks. My brother's friend took his wife and two daughters up the mountain a bit for a walk the other day and he was standing there talking about bears to his daughter and telling them to tell him if they see any .... lol. One daughter said Dad ... behind you. A black bear was watching him talk about bears.

    My brother spends a great deal of time in the mountains and he and bears cross paths all the time. He's never had to defend himself. Naturally, he knows enough that he would never approach a bear with cubs.

    He was sitting on a fallen tree one day and a bear saw him and was walking slowly towards him. It was just yards away ... he said "That's close enough, bear." The bear looked at him and walked away.

    Grizzly is a different matter. I wouldn't trust them to be so complacent.
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  • Hi all, funny that you would post about aggressive bears today. I see bears all the time, at least 2-3 times a week. Not only that, but I got wolves, coyotes, cougars, and last year I'm pretty sure I saw a wolverine. I'm pretty comfortable, don't scare easily, but I know my place.

    I've worked with wild animals for years, would like to think I can read them fairly well. I've been in more hairy situations and tight spots than a person should be. Yesterday was something completely different.

    I was working around home, out front, fixing a fence. In front of my homestead there is a small meadow about 150' wide. Past that, nothing but forest for 20 miles. I was messing with the wire when I happened to notice a couple of the cats standing on their back legs on a rock trying to look at something across the way. These are feral cats, smart and wily, so I knew something was up.

    There he was, walking along the treeline away from me. About 350-400lbs, in excellent shape, a nice looking specimen. He obviously hadn't seen or heard me. About the same time I noticed the cats were gone, I saw him stop, turn and look right at me. That's when it got interesting.

    Their eyesight isn't particularly that good so I have had them come at me, stop and stand up for a better look and a smell, even bluff charge, but they usually decide escape is a better plan. Not this boy, he was coming and I knew it.

    I'm a long way from help so I usually carry bear spray and a firearm, I had nothing but some fencing pliers. They say that discretion is the better part of valor and I agree, I got the hell out of there.

    By the time I reached my cabin and closed the door, he was there, on the deck, at the door staring at me through the window. I couldn't believe how fast he had covered that distance. I know they are quick, but it shocked me. He put both paws of the door and began pushing and bouncing. I was leaning on the other side with all my weight and trying to reach my gun in the corner. I wasn't sure the door would hold. I had visions of shooting him through the door, or worse yet, in the cabin. It was then I noticed the doorknob was turning. I gotta tell you, that creeped me out. I know it sounds stupid but I reached down and flipped the deadbolt closed.

    As suddenly as it started, it was over, he was gone. I don't know where he went or even what direction. I can tell you I was shaking and I had a very careful look around before I went back outside. Some days I think about having a drink, this was one of them.

    I generally don't like to shoot anything unless I absolutely have to. I will holler at them, use bear spray or even shoot next to them rather than kill them. This might be one I have to send to meet his maker, he was particularly aggressive and showed no fear.

    Maybe it's because I'm getting older, maybe not, but I have noticed over the years that a lot of animals seem to be getting more aggressive and less afraid of humans. Maybe they have had their fill of us.

    Bud
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  • Here's one...This is in the town I live in and just happened...


    Bear Visits Goes Inside Candy Store - Viral Video - YouTube
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    • That's great - amazing the bear did not tear anything up. Just had a sweet tooth - or two.
  • The videos are priceless!

    It's great to see humanity alive and well. I'm so grateful that folks took the time to help the bears out.

    As for the candy store owner, sounds like she laughed at not latching the door properly.

    Here in Canada, folks are to quick to label the bears a "nuisance" bear. They aren't always relocated either. That seals their fate.
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    • Here, it's two strikes and you're dead. When they capture a bear in town, they'll tag it and relocate it. If a tagged bear comes back, it's killed.

      It bothers me...It really isn't the bears in the wrong place, it's us people. My town is between a National Park and a National Forrest. What are the bears supposed to do?

      I think if we humans choose to live here, we should accept the fact that your trash will be broken into and scattered if you don't secure it, and that your car will be broken into if you leave food in it.

      If you don't like it, don't live here.
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  • Fishermen rescue bear cub from a whirlpool:

    Kenai River Bear Cub Rescue - YouTube
    Strangely enough, it kinda sounds like the bear was screaming "BEAR!"

    Poor lil guy

    EDIT - Oh. I see Kurt already posted that one.

    lol nevermind.. I knew I should have scrolled thru before posting this since it was on Yahoo a few days back.

    Carry on!
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  • Reason #143 to get the perscription for your glasses checked regularly:

    Elderly Couple Doesn and #39;t Notice The Bear On Their Porch - Video - YouTube
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    • I saw that on the news yesterday and cracked up. The bear is like "where they goin'?"
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  • Kurt,

    I've been told they are opening the spring bear hunt here.

    My problem with these hunts is the fact that they "bait" the bears. No skill involved, whatsoever.

    Jody
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    • I don't like baiting bears either. What's next? Bear hunting drones? Why go out in chlly weather and maybe get rained on when a drone can kill bears for fun and profit for you?
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  • @ Kurt.

    Amazingly, the majority of bear hunters here come from the United States. They pay a set fee for lodging and a bear guide.

    The bear guide is the one who does all the baiting.

    Our most popular bear guide and a regular for most, died a few years ago. Not sure who took over his position.
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  • The beer bear...seems this bear is picky about the beer it drinks:



    Bear downs 36 beers, passes out - US news - Weird news | NBC News
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    These Wisconsin Polars can be so playful! I love bear threads.



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