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These 6 Corporations Control 90% Of The Media In America - Business Insider
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    It's been a long time since we had a free press, 3M. It was even consolidated a few years back in a buy out by some pal of George Bush - can't remember who owns most of it now. It's extremely government friendly, too. That's another one that's fun to follow the money back to the disinformation controls.
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      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      It's been a long time since we had a free press, 3M. It was even consolidated a few years back in a buy out by some pal of George Bush - can't remember who owns most of it now. It's extremely government friendly, too. That's another one that's fun to follow the money back to the disinformation controls.
      Off topic: WHOA my dog looks exactly like yours. Is it a mix or a purebreed?

      Mine is a German Shepherd/Shorthaired pointer mix
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        Originally Posted by jivens View Post

        Off topic: WHOA my dog looks exactly like yours. Is it a mix or a purebreed?

        Mine is a German Shepherd/Shorthaired pointer mix
        Ricky is a rescue. Not really sure what he is completely. He's, by looks and temperament, partly either Rottie or Greater Swiss Mountain -- probably Rottie just because of the rarity of Greater Swiss - but his markings are more greater Swiss. The body is completely rot, but smaller. As for the other part? I wish I knew. I've been trying to figure it out for two years now. Chow? Cattle dog of some sort (he seems to have a herd instinct, but that is Rot, too). He has heavily black spotted gums and an extremely wiry undercoat. His head is a tad more square than it photographs, his muzzle is a tad shorter than it appears in pics.

        So - you tell ME what Ricky is. I'd like to know.

        I return you to your regularly scheduled thread.
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    • Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      It's been a long time since we had a free press, 3M. It was even consolidated a few years back in a buy out by some pal of George Bush - can't remember who owns most of it now. It's extremely government friendly, too. That's another one that's fun to follow the money back to the disinformation controls.
      I know Sal, but the players switch teams so often these days, you occasionally need a new program update to keep tabs on who's playing who...(or is it whom?) :rolleyes:
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        Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post

        I know Sal, but the players switch teams so often these days, you occasionally need a new program update to keep tabs on who's playing who...(or is it whom?) :rolleyes:
        It's all the same teams - they just own enough to bury themselves from view here and there. So while it seems like stuff is being shuffled all over the place....it's not so much. Same players, different chessboard.
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        • Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          It's all the same teams - they just own enough to bury themselves from view here and there. So while it seems like stuff is being shuffled all over the place....it's not so much. Same players, different chessboard.
          Speaking of players and teams, I'm not sure if many people are aware of this, and I don't want to turn this into a political arena, but since it wasn't fully mentioned in the article...there are a couple of companies connected to a certain other well known celebrity of late...the Premier Networks (Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, among others) - it's wholly owned by Clear Channel Communications...and who's a major stock holder? Take a guess...does a name on the second line* ring a bell? :rolleyes:
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_C...Communications
          (*for the uninitiated - it's Bain Capital)

          *another interesting story I read recently was about a voice actor who was hired by Premier Network to be a "caller" into their radio shows and given outline scripts - the surprising part of this to him was that, they apparently made not real attempt to hide the fact that they do this on a regular basis? (excerpt and link below)

          http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-life...759/radio-daze - clear channel comm used voice actors to phone in questions to limbaugh, beck...

          “Thank you for auditioning for Premiere On Call,” it said. “Your audition was great! We’d like to invite you to join our official roster of ‘ready-to-work’ actors.” The job, the email indicated, paid $40 an hour, with one hour guaranteed per day.

          But what exactly was the work? The question popped up during the audition and was explained, the actor said, clearly and simply: If he passed the audition, he would be invited periodically to call in to various talk shows and recite various scenarios that made for interesting radio. He would never be identified as an actor, and his scenarios would never be identified as fabricated—which they always were.

          “I was surprised that it seemed so open,” the actor told me in an interview. “There was really no pretense of covering it up.”

          Curious, the actor did some snooping and learned that Premiere On Call was a service offered by Premiere Radio Networks, the largest syndication company in the United States and a subsidiary of Clear Channel Communications, the entertainment and advertising giant. Premiere syndicates some of the more sterling names in radio, including Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and Sean Hannity. But a great radio show depends as much on great callers as it does on great hosts: Enter Premiere On Call.
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    I didn't know GE owned Comcrap.
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    • Originally Posted by KimW View Post

      I didn't know GE owned Comcrap.
      Learn something new every day.
      Actually, they did last year...but now Comcrap is now just Comcrap again - and they are the #6...GE is not on the list anymore...
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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    Pfft!!!

    In Australia we have one (1) corporation that controls 70% of the media.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

      Pfft!!!

      In Australia we have one (1) corporation that controls 70% of the media.
      What intellectually dishonest nonsense.

      A 70% market share of sales is not the same as owning 70% of the media.

      http://www.theaustralian.com.au/medi...-1226114841518

      The 70 per cent figure was not entirely incorrect but what it was referring to had become distorted, Ms White said. "There's a factual basis to it . . . but it is not the whole story. There are many ways to present audience figures."

      Her analysis of Roy Morgan data showed that News Limited had: 48 per cent of print revenue, 60 per cent of newspapers sold in Australia, 32 per cent (owned fully or partly) of newspaper titles (printed at least weekly) and 61 per cent of the population aged 14 or older read a News Limited paper each week.
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          Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post

          I thought it was a Murdochracy down under...
          It is a myth that has been peddled for years by those who are jealous of the success of News Limited in this country.

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            • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
              Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post

              Thanks for clarifying that...I killed my post - my bad
              You had no need to delete your post, it had nothing wrong with it.

              One of Newscorp's "journalists" is about to find himself in deep trouble for possibly conspiring with others to ruin the career of an elected member of parliament (according to our AG today). Murdochracy in action.

              This same journalist has form in concocting a crock of crap about the former PM (look up UteGate).

              As has been seen in the Leveson Inquiry, Murdoch is not shy in influencing politicians (both left and right) to do what he believes should happen.

              Every day his fish wrappers are full of anti-government propaganda, because when the current PM met Murdoch in New York in 2010, she basically told him to kiss her @rse.

              Since then, Murdoch's rags have done their damnedest to bring down the government despite our economy being the best in the OECD.

              Newscorp runs a polling company called NewsPoll. They run polls every two weeks. Every two weeks you can guarantee that Murdoch's rags are filled with articles about non-existent leadership challenges to the PM. You can always tell when a NewsPoll is due, as these stories pop up every time.

              Just because the Murdoch empire tells our cookie eating friend above what he wants to hear (confirmation bias), he believes they are telling the truth.
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            Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

            It is a myth that has been peddled for years by those who are jealous of the success of News Limited in this country.

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            You do realize it's very hard to take this kind of discussion seriously from a blue muppet holding a cookie?
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              Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

              You do realize it's very hard to take this kind of discussion seriously from a blue muppet holding a cookie?


              90%... that means the other 10% of the World's controlled media...must be good old fashioned p0rn
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        Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

        What intellectually dishonest nonsense.

        A 70% market share of sales is not the same as owning 70% of the media.

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        What astounds me are the strong similarities of sentiments and ideology shared by significant proportions of the populations of the United States, Australia, and Canada. Australian American Rupert Murdoch, who owns the world's second-largest media conglomerate, was born in Australia. I guess he's reflective of an ideological outlook more than the instigator of it?
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      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

      Pfft!!!

      In Australia we have one (1) corporation that controls 70% of the media.
      Aha! You're in Australia! Interesting name for a city. And I thought you were living on a yacht, wandering around the globe.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordi
    This is some good info and infographic. I'm a big fan of Marvel Studios movies even though some movie is just down right bad. But I would have never thought Disney owns Marvel. I mean, I think they're too soft when I think of Disney. Nonetheless good share.
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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    The 70 per cent figure was not entirely incorrect but what it was referring to had become distorted, Ms White said. "There's a factual basis to it . . . but it is not the whole story. There are many ways to present audience figures."

    Her analysis of Roy Morgan data showed that News Limited had: 48 per cent of print revenue, 60 per cent of newspapers sold in Australia, 32 per cent (owned fully or partly) of newspaper titles (printed at least weekly) and 61 per cent of the population aged 14 or older read a News Limited paper each week.
    What intellectually dishonest nonsense.

    You are merely quoting newspapers, where this discussion is about media.

    That completely fails to take into account:
    25% of FoxTel
    100% of SkyNews Australia
    50% of National Rugby League
    100% of FoxSports
    etc., etc..

    Plus Lachlan Murdoch (a NWS Board member and son of you know who), owns 50% of DMG Radio, and 9% of TEN, and is also Chairman of TEN.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post


      That completely fails to take into account:
      25% of FoxTel
      News limited isn't the majority shareholder, Telstra is at 50%.

      Foxtel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Not a sole controlling stake

      100% of SkyNews Australia
      Not sure where you get your numbers from. According to Wikipedia, they own 33% along with two other media companies.

      Sky News Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Again, not a sole controlling stake.

      50% of National Rugby League
      Lol, that partnership with the ARL ended in February. The leagues run by the ARL Commision.

      Australian Rugby League Commission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      No controlling stake here.

      100% of FoxSports
      I am assuming here you are referring to Fox Sports Australia, they own 50%, not 100%

      The channel is owned by the "Premier Media Group," a JV between News limited and Consolidated media holdings.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_Sports_(Australia)

      Not surprising they would have part ownership here.

      Plus Lachlan Murdoch (a NWS Board member and son of you know who), owns 50% of DMG Radio, and 9% of TEN, and is also Chairman of TEN.
      Lol, DMG is hardly a behemoth in Australian radio;

      DMG Radio Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      As for channel Ten, 9% is hardly a sole controlling stake in the company nor does Lachlan Murdoch being appointed CEO somehow change that fact.

      Gina Rinehart has a bigger stake in ten.

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      I am curious as to who else you think Rupert Murdoch owns in the Australian media.
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      • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
        Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

        <snipped>
        Newspapers in Australia published by News Limited (including suburban giveaways); source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newscorp#Holdings
        Magazines:
        • Alpha Magazine
        • Australian Country Style
        • Australian Golf Digest
        • Australian Good Taste
        • Big League
        • BCME
        • Delicious
        • Donna Hay
        • Fast Fours
        • GQ (Australia)
        • Gardening Australia
        • InsideOut (Aust)
        • Lifestyle Pools
        • Live to Ride
        • Notebook
        • Overlander 4WD
        • Modern Boating
        • Modern Fishing
        • Parents
        • Pure Health
        • Super Food Ideas
        • Truck Australia
        • Truckin' Life
        • twowheels
        • twowheels scooter
        • Vogue (Australia)
        • Vogue Entertaining & Travel
        • Vogue Living
        Sport
        Majority ownership of the Brisbane Broncos (68.9%) and full ownership of the Melbourne Storm rugby league team.

        And so on.

        And let's not forget all the international media assets NWS owns that operate in Australia, such as Harper Collins (books), 20th Century Fox who own a huge movie studio on Sydney, as well as all the Fox*** channels shown on FoxTel, including FoxNews.


        All those little bits add up to effective control of >70% of the media in Australia.
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        • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
          Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

          What astounds me are the strong similarities of sentiments and ideology shared by significant proportions of the populations of the United States, Australia, and Canada. Australian American Rupert Murdoch, who owns the world's second-largest media conglomerate, was born in Australia. I guess he's reflective of an ideological outlook more than the instigator of it?
          Unlike Whateverpedia, I give people credit for being intelligent and being able to make up their own minds.

          If their belief/opinion doesn't match with mine, I don't make some snarky claim that they must have been brainwashed by the evil hate media (Implying they are stupid) such as Whateverpedia has done in previous threads. Nor do I condescend people by trying to be clever and claiming they are a victim of confirmation bias either. Again, implying that they are biased and/or stupid because they don't share my P.O.V.

          Perhaps what you are noticing is the silent majority. Hence the success Rupert Murdoch has enjoyed worldwide.

          You want to make money in business? Then go where the money is, which is exactly what Rupert Murdoch has done. Hence Fox News is the number one news channel in the United States. Much to the chagrin of others in the news media.

          Many of whom it seems to me, seem to be in complete denial of the reasons why.

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          • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
            Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

            Unlike Whateverpedia, I give people credit for being intelligent and being able to make up their own minds.

            If their belief/opinion doesn't match with mine, I don't make some snarky claim that they must have been brainwashed by the evil hate media (Implying they are stupid) such as Whateverpedia has done in previous threads. Nor do I condescend people by trying to be clever and claiming they are a victim of confirmation bias either. Again, implying that they are biased and/or stupid because they don't share my P.O.V.

            Perhaps what you are noticing is the silent majority. Hence the success Rupert Murdoch has enjoyed worldwide.

            You want to make money in business? Then go where the money is, which is exactly what Rupert Murdoch has done. Hence Fox News is the number one news channel in the United States. Much to the chagrin of others in the news media.

            Many of whom it seems to me, seem to be in complete denial of the reasons why.

            -Chris

            Why don't you enlighten us??


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            • Profile picture of the author Wild Bill
              Some enlightenment... In 1915 J. P. Morgan formed a team to analyze all the newspapers in the country.
              They determined that by taking control of the top 25 they could exert major influence on the nation's "public opinion".
              They then went to the owners of the papers and basically bought out their editorial departments. They gave the owners a monthly payment and thereupon had free reign.
              It has been a process of takeover and consolidation ever since.
              There has not been a "free press" for nigh on 100 years.
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                (and ultimately, depressing if you are 99% of the populous )
                It's the reality of our economic system simply explained - watch it with someone you don't mind crying in front of...:p

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            Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

            You want to make money in business? Then go where the money is, which is exactly what Rupert Murdoch has done. Hence Fox News is the number one news channel in the United States. Much to the chagrin of others in the news media.

            Many of whom it seems to me, seem to be in complete denial of the reasons why.

            -Chris
            What intellectually dishonest nonsense.

            Fox news is the Number 1 CABLE NEWS SHOW in the US. Which is like saying Fox is the tallest midget. Fox News gets a fraction of the audience the network news shows get.

            BTW, Jon Sewart's Daily Show, which is an admittedly left-leaning spoof on news, gets many more cable viewers than Fox's competing (and most popular) show O'Reilly Factor.

            "Denial" isn't a river in Egypt, although Fox News has probably reported it as such.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    True, serious consolidation has happened but IMHO, Americans still get all the information we need to make good political decisions.

    Lots of people just need to start paying more attention, do some research and/or have the courage to come to conclusions instead of using the "they're all the same card".


    All The Best!!

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      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      True, serious consolidation has happened but IMHO, Americans still get all the information we need to make good political decisions.

      Lots of people just need to start paying more attention, do some research and/or have the courage to come to conclusions instead of using the "they're all the same card".


      All The Best!!

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      Yeah really? How much press have you seen given to "Fast and Furious"? How much to the Obama Impeachment hearings? Most people don't even realize there is an Impeachment investigation. You sure don't see it covered on the evening news.
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        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        Yeah really? How much press have you seen given to "Fast and Furious"? How much to the Obama Impeachment hearings? Most people don't even realize there is an Impeachment investigation. You sure don't see it covered on the evening news.

        I bet everyone that watches Fox knows every minute detail regarding fast and furious.


        The Impeachment investigation reminds me of the Birther Investigation and deserves just as much attention.


        FYI...


        When you control the house of reps any type of investigation you desire can be conducted.


        What a crock of s***.


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          Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

          I bet everyone that watches Fox knows every minute detail regarding fast and furious.


          The Impeachment investigation reminds me of the Birther Investigation and deserves just as much attention.


          FYI...


          When you control the house of reps any type of investigation you desire can be conducted.


          What a crock of s***.


          TL
          Fox is reporting Fast and Furious now? There have been petitions to many channels to cover it.

          If you think investigating treasonous activities and Bills of Impeachment is a crock of sh**, it's really hard to take anything you think as being educated enough to pay attention to........and of course, most of us don't anymore if you notice the frequency you are referred to as anything but informed.

          As for me, I'm not interested in your "paid posting" agenda. Rather than listening to you slam a news channel and rant about how stupid it is for Congress to write Bills of Impeachment -- I'd actually like to hear if anyone has heard news on either on a TV channel. That is, after all, the topic of discussion here. Go find some more pictures to post. The disinformation and disruption didn't work for ya in 2008 and it's not working for ya now.
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          • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
            Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

            Fox is reporting Fast and Furious now? There have been petitions to many channels to cover it.

            If you think investigating treason is a crock of sh**, it's really hard to take anything you think as being educated enough to pay attention to........and of course, most of us don't anymore if you notice the frequency you are referred to as anything but informed.

            Keep those pink glasses on - they seem to be just right for you.

            And you keep listening to people like...

            - Matt Drudge:

            - That dude who claimed he is a senator from the "Republic Of Missouri".

            - Whoever got you mixed up on the actual powers of the World bank.

            - Whoever told you that the Queen of England secretly owns the USA.

            - Whoever told you that a Civil War is imminent.

            And...

            ... you keep believing that the U.S.A. is finished as a nation and we can not bounce back from this recession.


            You do your thing and I'll do mine.


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              Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

              And you keep listening to people like...

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              - Whoever got you mixed up on the actual powers of the World bank.<snip>
              The World bank has a lot of power. A ridiculous amount of power. You believe otherwise?
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              • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
                Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

                The World bank has a lot of power. A ridiculous amount of power. You believe otherwise?

                Sure it has a lot of power but it does not tell the Fed what to do as someone in here continues to state.


                It loans money for infrastructure projects around the world and is often accused of using that power to meddle in local affairs to say the least.


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                  Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

                  It loans money for infrastructure projects around the world and is often accused of using that power to meddle in local affairs to say the least.


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                  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
                    Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

                    You don't help somebody who is already in debt by placing them even deeper in debt.

                    -Chris

                    It depends on the purpose of the loan and if the receiver of the loan can pay it back.


                    The Marshall Plan did wonders for a devastated post WW2 Europe with very, very generous loan terms.


                    Marshall Plan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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                • Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

                  Sure it has a lot of power but it does not tell the Fed what to do as someone in here continues to state.


                  It loans money for infrastructure projects around the world and is often accused of using that power to meddle in local affairs to say the least.


                  TL
                  But TL...who DOES tell the Fed what to do? :confused:
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                    Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post

                    But TL...who DOES tell the Fed what to do? :confused:
                    The people that own the FED decide what to do. Now, lets see. Who owns World Bank - and what other financial institutions are owned/run by World Bank? When the Gov contracted the World bank to take over the gov's money printing obligation, a % of each dollar was contracted as fee for service. If they are printing the money with a fee per service per dollar -- where the hell is the money for the fee supposed to come from? This stuff used to be taught in Econ 101 - at least in Ivy League Universities. Macro-economics holds absolutely no resemblance to micro-economics. Where do you get the money to pay off a debt if more debt is attached to each dollar printed? Kaynsian theory was already defunct back in 1979 when I took econ - and they haven't come up with anything logical as a replacement yet? Go figure.

                    And I'm STILL wondering if anyone has seen any reporting on Mainstream media - any of it - about the Impeachment or about Fast and Furious. Whether someone feels these things are bunk or not -- an unbiased, free press would be reporting them because that is what is going on. They would leave the decision about whether what was going on was a good thing or BS -- but they would at least be reporting it to us. This is kind of important stuff to be silent about.
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                    • Nice work if you can get it...the gov't makes a bunch of money that isn't backed by any collateral...loans it to you (the Fed) at 0% interest, then you loan it BACK to the gov't WITH interest...and all you have to do is call them up and tell them how much money to make, and they give it to you whenever you want it - pretty sweeet!

                      So simple...like the jitterbug it plumb evaded me...:rolleyes:
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                • Profile picture of the author Wild Bill
                  TL you need to liberate your own mind....
                  Go to YouTube and watch "The Money Masters" and you will know who has the power and how they use it.
                  However, I'm betting you'll simply write it off as paranoid ranting and go right back to knowing everything. Too bad...
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            • Profile picture of the author HeySal
              Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

              And you keep listening to people like...

              - Matt Drudge:

              - That dude who claimed he is a senator from the "Republic Of Missouri".

              - Whoever got you mixed up on the actual powers of the World bank.

              - Whoever told you that the Queen of England secretly owns the USA.

              - Whoever told you that a Civil War is imminent.

              And...

              ... you keep believing that the U.S.A. is finished as a nation and we can not bounce back from this recession.


              You do you thing and I'll do mine.


              TL
              TL -- Nobody is accidentally as obtuse as you. It is very obvious that you want this thread removed.

              It doesn't matter who I listen to and how you are pulling these assumptions into the thread is shear stupidity. -- Remember - I watch C-span and read court documents and bills, too -- I suppose though that those are all sh** too eh? Who I get my information from is so irrelevant to this conversation that it's almost funny to watch you sh** your pants over it.

              Your attempt at diverting attention with a lot of irrelevant crap STILL isn't working. The question remains -- HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THESE ISSUES REPORTED ON A NEWS CHANNEL. Do you "get" that yet? I didn't ask what you think about what is going on and I really don't give a rat's ass. The fact is that it is GOING on and it is the press's traditional obligation to report what is going on. I am asking how many channels are doing that. . NOT EVERYTHIING is about how you feel about it.

              Question still has not been answered folks. Anyone see either of these issues on a news channel?
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      • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        Yeah really? How much press have you seen given to "Fast and Furious"? How much to the Obama Impeachment hearings? Most people don't even realize there is an Impeachment investigation. You sure don't see it covered on the evening news.
        What news sources do you suggest? Here are a few I read ("read" is not synonymous with "agree with"):
        ProPublica
        Home | Common Dreams
        The BRAD BLOG

        In filtering out the crap and lies from news, these are a couple of sites that might help:
        Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting (FAIR)
        Free Press | Media reform through education, organizing and advocacy
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    WIld Bill - thanks for the vids. I knew what was going on generally, but not the details. I also did not know that the media run has been going on for so long. Should have figured that with the FED being installed on us for that long. It used to be hell trying to tell people that the FED was World Bank. People were so hostile that I would say so that I'm surprised I didn't get dragged to a mental institution. Had I been anyone significant, I might have - or worse.

    Nice work if you can get it...the gov't makes a bunch of money that isn't backed by any collateral...loans it to you (the Fed) at 0% interest, then you loan it BACK to the gov't WITH interest...and all you have to do is call them up and tell them how much money to make, and they give it to you whenever you want it - pretty sweeet!
    No collateral? Guess again. What do you think you are? What do you think our homes and land, forests, water, etc are? Buy a piece of property and see about buying the rights to minerals, forest, water. What you are doing is paying off the collateral debt on that land. Know where your federal income tax goes? World Bank owns us. I wasn't kidding when I call the US the US of Goldman Sacs.
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    • Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      WIld Bill - thanks for the vids. I knew what was going on generally, but not the details. I also did not know that the media run has been going on for so long. Should have figured that with the FED being installed on us for that long. It used to be hell trying to tell people that the FED was World Bank. People were so hostile that I would say so that I'm surprised I didn't get dragged to a mental institution. Had I been anyone significant, I might have - or worse.



      No collateral? Guess again. What do you think you are? What do you think our homes and land, forests, water, etc are? Buy a piece of property and see about buying the rights to minerals, forest, water. What you are doing is paying for the collateral on that land. Know where your federal income tax goes? World Bank owns us. I wasn't kidding when I call the US the US of Goldman Sacs.
      Well, it is true that when we are born in this country, there (for most of the us) is a 'paper us' (SSN) attached to the human us...the collateral I was referring to that we don't have is the gold standard - the gov't does still control most of (our) land and mineral rights...as long as we can keep them from selling it off... :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post

        Well, it is true that when we are born in this country, there (for most of the us) is a 'paper us' (SSN) attached to the human us...the collateral I was referring to that we don't have is the gold standard - the gov't does still control most of (our) land and mineral rights...as long as we can keep them from selling it off... :rolleyes:
        Most of our mineral, forestry, and water rights have been severed from the land and are owned by corporations. If you get lucky, in many states you can still get most of the rights with the property if you are willing to pay for them. Once they are severed, though, if you want them, you have to either hope the owner will sell them to you, or you have to wait for them to default on the ownership, then you can grab them.
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