Louisiana law says sex offenders must state status on Facebook

14 years ago

That seems fair to me. Maybe it should run out after 500 years if they don't re-offend.

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waterotter

14 years ago

I don't have a problem with it. Criminals have more rights than their victims or anyone else. They shouldn't be allowed on social media sites, so I think it's only fair that they are required to make it known they are a sex offender.

Finally a State that stands up for the rights of citizens.

EDIT: If they don't like it, they can stay off FB, it's their choice.

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yukon

Banned 14 years ago

No offense to anyone here, but that's the dumbest law to ever exist.

A person can have a thousand FB accounts, duh... :rolleyes:

I assume the law was meant to keep freaks off the social sites, that law only keeps their real names off the social sites.

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waterotter

14 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

No offense to anyone here, but that's the dumbest law to ever exist.

A person can have a thousand FB accounts, duh... :rolleyes:

I assume the law was meant to keep freaks off the social sites, that law only keeps their real names off the social sites.

Yukon, I thought the same thing also. I guess I'm hoping the fine/alternative if they get caught, will deter the majority of them - probablly not.

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SteveJohnson 14 years ago

Originally Posted by waterotter

Yukon, I thought the same thing also. I guess I'm hoping the fine/alternative if they get caught, will deter the majority of them - probablly not.

The fine/alternative didn't deter them in the first place
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- waterotter 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by SteveJohnson
  
  The fine/alternative didn't deter them in the first place
  
  Was the alternative 20 yeas in prison without the chance of parole?
  
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Halcyon

14 years ago

Aside from the flat out rapist/molesters, we have to be careful with those pitch forks and torches. Scarlet letter painting can be messy.

The label "sex offender" is a broad term. Here in OH a 19 year old boy can be convicted for having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend and would be required to register as a sex offender. While in this case the charge wouldn't be statutory rape, an angry parent can still press charges for gross sexual imposition. Enough to get a kid listed.

There are several sex offenders within a 3 mile radius of my house (as a parent I check often) who have been charged with crimes such being 18 and having consensual sex with a 16 year old. All it takes is one angry father battling for his daughter's lost virginity to get the ball rolling.

Then again I guess teenagers shouldn't be haven't sex. :rolleyes:
That always works out.

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seasoned

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Halcyon

Aside from the flat out rapist/molesters, we have to be be careful with those pitch forks and torches. Scarlet letter painting can be messy.

The label "sex offender" is a broad term. Here in OH a 19 year old boy can be convicted for having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend and would be required to register as a sex offender. While in this case the charge wouldn't be statutory rape, an angry parent can still press charges for gross sexual imposition. Enough to get a kid listed.

There are several sex offenders within a 3 mile radius of my house (as a parent I check often) who have been charged with crimes such being 18 and having consensual sex with a 16 year old. All it takes is one angry father battling for his daughter's lost virginity to get the ball rolling.

Then again I guess teenagers shouldn't be haven't sex. :rolleyes:
That always works out.

You're right about that. I have said several times that minors aren't allowed t enter into contracts. Since consent is a contract of sorts, they can't do that, and so THIS problem.

They SHOULD probably have a 4 year band that allows an adult to have sex with a minor, so a 19yo could have sex with a 15yo, but not a 14yo, and list it like improper sex or some such, to prevent this kind of problem. Still, decades ago, society would have said be happy adults can have sex with OTHER adults that they aren't married to!

To make matters worse, SOME states allow people as young as 16, and possibly younger, to marry! Once THAT happens, they could have sex that is otherwise illegal. I guess it doesn't ALWAYS require a parents consent, and I am not sure how THAT works.

Steve

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Halcyon

14 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

You're right about that. I have said several times that minors aren't allowed t enter into contracts. Since consent is a contract of sorts, they can't do that, and so THIS problem.

They SHOULD probably have a 4 year band that allows an adult to have sex with a minor, so a 19yo could have sex with a 15yo, but not a 14yo, and list it like improper sex or some such, to prevent this kind of problem. Still, decades ago, society would have said be happy adults can have sex with OTHER adults that they aren't married to!

To make matters worse, SOME states allow people as young as 16, and possibly younger, to marry! Once THAT happens, they could have sex that is otherwise illegal. I guess it doesn't ALWAYS require a parents consent, and I am not sure how THAT works.

Steve

As far as I'm concerned, what they call it doesn't matter. I question whether it's serious enough to get a kid labeled as a sex offender for life.

Just like any other parent, I want to know if a rapist/molester moves into my neighborhood but the last 3 Sheriff notices were for charges like "corruption of a minor". Which in one particular case involved a 20 year old woman who had sex with her 17 year old boyfriend. WTF?! What a waste of time and money - I want my tax dollars back!

Don't get me wrong, there are some real deviants out there but I don't think it serves anyone to lump lapses in judgement with rapists and pedophiles .

And then have to announce it to the world.

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seasoned

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Halcyon

As far as I'm concerned, what they call it doesn't matter. I question whether it's serious enough to get a kid labeled as a sex offender for life.

Just like any other parent, I want to know if a rapist/molester moves into my neighborhood but the last 3 Sheriff notices were for charges like "corruption of a minor". Which in one particular case involved a 20 year old woman who had sex with her 17 year old boyfriend. WTF?! What a waste of time and money - I want my tax dollars back!

Don't get me wrong, there are some real deviants out there but I don't think it serves anyone to lump lapses in judgement with rapists and pedophiles .

And then have to announce it to the world.

Basically, I was saying the same, but have the new crime labeled as a misdemeanor, etc...

Steve

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HeySal

14 years ago

I've got to agree with that Halcyon. What the law labels as an offender of any type isn't always what we would be socially outraged, worried, or even bothered by. Everything seems to be against the law now. I think people have to start looking at the specific crime rather than the label. The world according to perverted Uncle Sammy, isn't always what it appears to be.

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Sumit Menon

14 years ago

I don't understand the logic of registering people as sex offenders in your country. By registering you are just implying that they are potentially dangerous, right? If they are potentially dangerous then maybe they should be in the jail. I for one thing believe that a sex offender should get a life term. And if he is rehabilitated, he should be released with no baggage.

This is an absurd law. I know many people who have two accounts. And, also why give Facebook, Twitter et al so much legal leverage. They are just businesses like any other. If this guy can enter a restaurant without wearing a sex offender tag, then he should be able to do it on FB too.

Sumit.

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MissTerraK

14 years ago

Summit, that wouldn't work at all. Like has been discussed, young people having sexual relations when one is just under legal age is in no way, shape or form cause for life imprisonment.

It is a well known fact that hormones at that age are massive crazy and speak louder than logic in the heat of the moment.

If one one of my kids made a poor sexual decision, I certainly wouldn't want them in the same cell, for life, with a serial mass murderer who's delight is in killing teenage boy/girls. See where I'm going with this?

Terra

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Sumit Menon

14 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

Summit, that wouldn't work at all. Like has been discussed, young people having sexual relations when one is just under legal age is in no way, shape or form cause for life imprisonment.

It's Sumit.

Now, if someone could explain me the logic behind that law. It's extremely unnecessary. How about pulling the age of consent down to that of nature's and concentrating on value education? Our government did the complete opposite... They actually raised it recently by 2 years. Amazing! What's that supposed to achieve?

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MissTerraK

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Sumit Menon

It's Sumit.

Now, if someone could explain me the logic behind that law. It's extremely unnecessary. How about pulling the age of consent down to that of nature's and concentrating on value education? Our government did the complete opposite... They actually raised it recently by 2 years. Amazing! What's that supposed to achieve?

Crap!

I knew that, I guess my finger rested too long on the "m".

I believe it was started by a parent because a predator did indeed abuse their child, one that lived only a few doors down. Their theory was that if they had known this guy was a convicted sexual predator, they could have been more aware and proactive in the protection of their child. So they advocated for the law. Then, as always, zealous lawmakers took it too far. :rolleyes:

I think that's how it all started and if memory serves well, Oprah Winfrey had a big hand in it as well, due to the sexual abuse she suffered during her childhood.

Terra

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

14 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

Crap!

I knew that, I guess my finger rested too long on the "m".

I believe it was started by a parent because a predator did indeed abuse their child, one that lived only a few doors down. Their theory was that if they had known this guy was a convicted sexual predator, they could have been more aware and proactive in the protection of their child. So they advocated for the law. Then, as always, zealous lawmakers took it too far. :rolleyes:

I think that's how it all started and if memory serves well, Oprah Winfrey had a big hand in it as well, due to the sexual abuse she suffered during her childhood.

Terra

I can certainly sympathize with Sumit's 'summ'ation...but as has been said the term "sex offender" is a very broad term - (because of this...many of us are not allowed in the state of North Carolina :p :rolleyes

If I remember, there is even a guy in Texas, who was 18, GF 16, who was charged by her parents and is now a 'sex offender' - but the two are now married, but he is still listed as a sex offender...and apparently, he's not supposed to have sex with his wife :rolleyes: (which probably happened soon after they got married anyway...:p) (jk)

Facebook actually already has a stipulation about sex offenders, but apparently none of them read it -

And who exactly monitors and blocks the IP address of every 'said' registerd offender?

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seasoned

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Sumit Menon

I don't understand the logic of registering people as sex offenders in your country. By registering you are just implying that they are potentially dangerous, right? If they are potentially dangerous then maybe they should be in the jail. I for one thing believe that a sex offender should get a life term. And if he is rehabilitated, he should be released with no baggage.

This is an absurd law. I know many people who have two accounts. And, also why give Facebook, Twitter et al so much legal leverage. They are just businesses like any other. If this guy can enter a restaurant without wearing a sex offender tag, then he should be able to do it on FB too.

Sumit.

Sumit,

This is considered a sex ADDICTION and addictions are often NEVER 100% cured. In fact often the "victim" doesn't WANT to be cured! So they can never be TRUSTED with that. PC and just compassion, dictate that they should be given SOME chance. Compassion is ****NOT**** permission to endanger OTHERS, so the registering is a COMPROMISE!

I have spoken about how I have an uncle that is in denmark. He is married to a dane. He NEVER gave up his US citizenship, and so HE must register with the police! WHY? Maybe they feel that the US isn't to be trusted THAT much or something. He DOES seem to be danish, and is MARRIED to a dane! Such things happen EVERYWHERE!

If he goes into a restaurant, he takes his body WITH him! NO kid would believe he is 10 or some such. On FB and twitter that is NOT true!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The two are ENTIRELY different!

Steve

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Sumit Menon

14 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

Crap!

I knew that, I guess my finger rested too long on the "m".

I believe it was started by a parent because a predator did indeed abuse their child, one that lived only a few doors down. Their theory was that if they had known this guy was a convicted sexual predator, they could have been more aware and proactive in the protection of their child. So they advocated for the law. Then, as always, zealous lawmakers took it too far. :rolleyes:

I think that's how it all started and if memory serves well, Oprah Winfrey had a big hand in it as well, due to the sexual abuse she suffered during her childhood.

Terra

Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate

I can certainly sympathize with Sumit's 'summ'ation...but as has been said the term "sex offender" is a very broad term - (because of this...many of us are not allowed in the state of North Carolina :p :rolleyes

If I remember, there is even a guy in Texas, who was 18, GF 16, who was charged by her parents and is now a 'sex offender' - but the two are now married, but he is still listed as a sex offender...and apparently, he's not supposed to have sex with his wife :rolleyes: (which probably happened soon after they got married anyway...:p) (jk)

Facebook actually already has a stipulation about sex offenders, but apparently none of them read it -

And who exactly monitors and blocks the IP address of every 'said' registerd offender?

That's my point. Why let such situations arise? People who have sex with kids less than say 13 years of age should be jailed. And be let out under no condition. But, anybody who had consensual sex with someone past that age should not be treated as a victim. It's ridiculous.

Anyway, Steve gave the answer I was looking for.

And 3M, it's sumation.

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ashleynick8 14 years ago

good policy i have no problem i think every adult person should follow this rule.it is helpful for everyone.
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waterotter

14 years ago

I agree with the above statements that you can't generalize and lump everyone into the same category.

I do however, agree that convicted/known pedophiles should be branded for the public to see.

Here in Canada, we don't have the luxury of knowing we have a pedophile living down the street from us. They took that right away from us. Protect the p***ks at all costs. What about all the potential innocent victims? They certainly don't get the protection afforded to the pedophile living next door to them.

Facebook and other sites prohibit sex offenders from joining or having an account, so this is really a moot point.

As already mentioned, they will sign up using false info. Furthermore, how do you track and monitor them?

I'm all for protecting children, no matter the cost. We just need to find a system that works.

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Kay King 14 years ago

The database should be of those who commit crimes against children or rape or other serious sexual offense. We're told the "number of predators on this list" is rising - but isn't that because anyone with any overtone of sex in a conviction is tossed onto the list?

Supposedly, there are level of offenders but the general public doesn't know that. To the average person, someone on the "offender" list is a serious danger and that isn't always the case. An 18 yr old on the list for consensual sex with a 16 yr old (who said she was 18) is stupid - that person is not a threat to the public.

I'm not convinced that anyone should be branded for life for a crime of poor judgment as a teen or young adult. The list would be easier to monitor if it consisted only of dangerous predators.

I don't see any way to enforce this new rule - I think it's posturing.
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